If you had bothered to read the press release, you would have found out that Corel Linux, Download Edition is being bundled with Office. Also, the Standard/Deluxe versions of Corel Linux come with Corel WordPerfect 8, Download Edition.
This is as it should be, at least from a marketing perspective. Buy the OS and get a real word processor. Buy the Office Suite and get an OS to run it. If you want the high caliber OS <i>and</i> the high caliber office suite, then buy them both.
Buy them both? Why would I do that? I'll just buy Windows...and Office...oh, I get it now.
Oh, you use Photoshop, which means you're in Windows, so you can't:).
My Linux webserver is just that; a web server. It does nothing more. It can't play Quake, because it doesn't have X. Sure, it also has FTP, Telnet, and Samba, but that's just do I can update the web server. It cannot play sound, because I didn't put in sound support. I didn't put in a lot of stuff. If I don't want a router, I don't put in the routing code.
This is what Linux does right, and what M$ does wrong. WinNT and Win2K use the same kernel for their different levels (Workstation, Server, Pro, suXor haXor, etc). This is st00pid, because I am not playing Quake on the server. At least on Linux, I can take out that part of the OS out entirely.
We seem to have different definitions of a Good Network Administrator, especially at the school level.
A good network administrator is one the students respect. He's the one that sends off the email saying "You're using the same amount of bandwidth as all of Buildings A and E combined. Could you turn off Napster?" before cutting off the port. If you just cut off the port without warning, you will piss off the students the network is for.
You have to remember that people are creative, especially when they feel slighted. Sending off a warning usually lessens the sting, especially when you are respected.
Always give the benefit of the doubt the first time. If the student really doesn't listen (and it will only be a few), then you can ramp up straight to the cops and leave the port open for those that don't abuse the system.
Mind you, in this case, because Napster doesn't have a "only allow X connections" option (it does have a bandwidth throttle option, IIRC), the program itself is an abuse. In this case, I think I just sunk my argument:).
It is true that information wants to be free, in the highest sense. However, information also wants to be placed in a book for later (you mean books aren't dead yet). Music wants to be free to the masses (what, you mean radio isn't dead yet), but it also wants to be stuck on a CD for easy retrieval later. But more importantly, music wants t obe performed live.
The Smashing Pumpkins did a surprise gig in Toronto last week. Tickets were $30 each, and disappeared in a day (it was a small club). While lots of people may have Smashing Pumpkins MP3s for free, I bet these same people will gladly lay out a really big sum to see them live. That is how you are supposed to listen to music.
The industry has been making money for the last 90 years (and majorly in the last 50) on an idea whose time has finally come. Now if you will excuse me, I'm going to fight to have the car declared illegal because my horse whip business is going under.
NOTE: My source for this inofrmation is an issue of Time Digital I read in the summer while visiting the America.
I mean, he brought his high school's network to its knees. During a computer programming contest. Because he was finished it early and was bored. Reminds me of me, except I am not that good a programmer (although, with the system security at my HS, I didn't have to be *grin*).
I really don't think he has a high opinion of network administrators. Especially the incompetent variety, which this will hurt the most. After all, the good ones will simply knock on the door of the worst offender and nicely tell him to stop. That works a lot better IMHO than simply blocking off ports without warning; that's just inviting a bandwidth revolt.
Thi GPL is not mentioned in Linux articles. The source code availability is only sorta mentioned. I forgive the teacher. Still, I wish I could have seen that.
You ever try explaining the GPL to a corporate person (who this teacher prolly was)?
"The source code is freely distributable." "Okay...I think..." "If you make a change to the code, and redistribute the binary, you have to provide the source code with the changes you made..." "WHAT?" "...or you violate the GPL and can't distribute the program any more." "So how is somebody supposod to make money on that?" "They're not. They can sell support." "WHAT?" "Like Redhat does." "Nobody will write stuff for free." You know where the argument goes at this point:).
Yes, a good train engine will crush a penny. However, a full soup can would derail the train, or at least give the engineer nightmares. If you say, put a chunk of rail on the line, a disaster will happen, It does not take as much as you may think to put the train off kilter; the wheels on the trucks are round, after all, and not designed to leave the flanges.
So, either way, keeping the track clear is a bitch of a job:).
If I have to live next to trait tracks, do I want a loud noise once an hour, or a really annoying buzz 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, or at least until the power goes out? I'd take the loud noise in a heartbeat. I'd take an apartment that wasn't near train tracks even sooner, but begger's can't be choosers.
That's right kids, when you wear the new PokeTiara you can find all of the PokeTrainers in the area. Then you can have big Pokefights!
Never mind the fact that one of these imaging things is in the Pokecrystal on the PokeTiara telling Nintendo whether Pokemon is played more in little groups or big groups. It can even be modified to tell teachers if Pokemon is being played at nap time.
The idea may be crazy, but I'm sure real company executives (the gov't wouldn't try it when it's cheaper to buy the information from the megacorps; especially after the lawsuits) could come up with crazier ideas.
It's *much* more likely that the ISP would actually be an ISP, along the lines of Internet Direct (here in Canada anyway). Internet Direct already has an alliance with Future Shop and eMachines, so something like this seems to be a perfect fit for them.
I think that the real problem here is one of ego. We should not have to adapt to Microsoft. Microsoft should have to adopt to us.
The real question is whether or not the extra stuff they throw in is really worth it; personally, I think it was just a cheap workaround. The typical NT authorization stuff sends the equivilent of a cookie to the client holding the "I belong to this group, that group, and the other group." M$ had to stick that info somewhere (or rewrite the whole authorization scheme, which is never a good thing, even if it's broken), and there was a place in the Kerberos ticket to do that.
1. I am charging a guy with - having a baseball bat in his hand so he can kill somebody with it (posession) - using the baseball bat to kill somebody with it (agg. assault) - killing somebody with a baseball bat (murder)
I can't get him on the murder charge, the assault charge is iffy, but I can get him to plead down to possession.
Basically, the charge has to be on the indictment for a plea to work. Hence the silly little charges tagged on top of the big charge.
NOTE: I have not looked over the ABit stuff, so the info in this post could very well be dead wrong.
How about this variant on reality:
Joe "power user" buys a new ABit BP6. With the mobo, in the box, is a CD-ROM labelled Gentus Linux. Joe "power user" always wanted to play with Linux, and gives this distro he got *without even trying* a shot. He likes it. He then does a little research and tries out Debian.
Sounds good to me.
Plus, if (and this is a fairly big if) ABit puts a littli "Powered by RedHat" logo on the CD, Joe "Power User" should be able to figure out fairly quickly that he can use RPMs.
Mind you, I think Gentus will get blown to Hell when Joe "Power User" tries to recompile the kernel. But that's another story.
I just thought the idea was kind of funny
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I mean, DeCSS is a very descriptive name for a file that removes a Cascading Style Sheet from an HTML page. It might not do anything of any real importance, but neither does my website.
Civil disobedience is good, and it works...slowly. Around here (ON.ca) the drug laws are being loosened a tiny bit at a time (I, for one, think the gov't should legalize and tax the Hell out of marijuana...then it'd be just like cigarettes, only with a nicer smell).
There is only one (big) problem with that plan: Win2k is over $400. M$ is writing the successor to Win98 (code named Millenium, IIRC).
The real problem with switching to an NT only OS is games. Games (and DirectX) don't like the atuhoritarian control that NT's HAL has on the hardware. Let's face it; the HAL, while a good idea in theory, was implemented badly. Sorta like most things M$ .
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I said most of the time. That is the exception, not the rule. If I sat and thought about it, I could come up with a few more examples, but in general it's like WinZip:
The Wizard is simple, but doesn't do much. The Classic interface is powerful, but is hard for newbies.
You rarely get both. Which is really too bad, but that's life.
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Simple: Easy to use IS good. Mind you: Powerful IS good too.
Most of the time, however, Easy to use != Powerful.
The apparent goal here is to get Linux on every desktop, and the way to do that is to make it easy to use. The nice thing about Linux is that, even after all of that, if you would rather do things the hard way, you CAN. While it would be nice to get my network card to work without using ifconfig (damn PC card, even in Corel Linux I had to write a script that called ifconfig to get it to work on a regular basis), it's nice to know the option exists (or, I would have to open the COntrol Center every time).
Linux has the potential to be easy to use and powerful, all at the same time. So stop whining.
There is only three responses to a man who writes a completely wrong article:
1. Call the man a dumbass (I did not do that). 2. Ignore him until he goes away (which he hasn't). 3. Write back, pointing out every factual innaccuracy in the article.
I have no doubt that my points will be ignored. But, at least I tried.
Apparently you haven't been watching the New VR. Roger is just *so* comprehensible.
But to be serious here, while I don't really like Jon Katz's writing style, it's not actually bad. In fact, it is in fact too generalized for the/. audience (refer to the whole "Ask Jon Katz Anything" thread). And wtf is "cockney influenced talking"? There *is* a difference between being lazy and being clear. I guess nobody ever told you to keep it simple, stupid.
I will admit that I lost your point about halfway through your post. Your sentences were complex, they ran on, and in the end they did not make sense. I lost your point because *you disproved it*.
(NOTE: If I do not make sense, it's because I'm at work and my brain is in idle).
Note that people hate the M$ DOS/Windows combination not because it was a bad OS (I will not comment there), but because for a good five years or so it was the ONLY OS.
Competition == Good; <BR>M$ != Competition; <BR>Therefore M$ != Good; <BR> <BR>I think that pretty much sums up the feeling around here, complete with only 4 real words:). <BR> <BR> <BR>(Sorry if this is a repeat. No computers like me today.)
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If you had bothered to read the press release, you would have found out that Corel Linux, Download Edition is being bundled with Office. Also, the Standard/Deluxe versions of Corel Linux come with Corel WordPerfect 8, Download Edition.
This is as it should be, at least from a marketing perspective. Buy the OS and get a real word processor. Buy the Office Suite and get an OS to run it. If you want the high caliber OS <i>and</i> the high caliber office suite, then buy them both.
Buy them both? Why would I do that? I'll just buy Windows...and Office...oh, I get it now.
Oh, you use Photoshop, which means you're in Windows, so you can't :).
My Linux webserver is just that; a web server. It does nothing more. It can't play Quake, because it doesn't have X. Sure, it also has FTP, Telnet, and Samba, but that's just do I can update the web server. It cannot play sound, because I didn't put in sound support. I didn't put in a lot of stuff. If I don't want a router, I don't put in the routing code.
This is what Linux does right, and what M$ does wrong. WinNT and Win2K use the same kernel for their different levels (Workstation, Server, Pro, suXor haXor, etc). This is st00pid, because I am not playing Quake on the server. At least on Linux, I can take out that part of the OS out entirely.
We seem to have different definitions of a Good Network Administrator, especially at the school level.
:).
A good network administrator is one the students respect. He's the one that sends off the email saying "You're using the same amount of bandwidth as all of Buildings A and E combined. Could you turn off Napster?" before cutting off the port. If you just cut off the port without warning, you will piss off the students the network is for.
You have to remember that people are creative, especially when they feel slighted. Sending off a warning usually lessens the sting, especially when you are respected.
Always give the benefit of the doubt the first time. If the student really doesn't listen (and it will only be a few), then you can ramp up straight to the cops and leave the port open for those that don't abuse the system.
Mind you, in this case, because Napster doesn't have a "only allow X connections" option (it does have a bandwidth throttle option, IIRC), the program itself is an abuse. In this case, I think I just sunk my argument
It is true that information wants to be free, in the highest sense. However, information also wants to be placed in a book for later (you mean books aren't dead yet). Music wants to be free to the masses (what, you mean radio isn't dead yet), but it also wants to be stuck on a CD for easy retrieval later. But more importantly, music wants t obe performed live.
The Smashing Pumpkins did a surprise gig in Toronto last week. Tickets were $30 each, and disappeared in a day (it was a small club). While lots of people may have Smashing Pumpkins MP3s for free, I bet these same people will gladly lay out a really big sum to see them live. That is how you are supposed to listen to music.
The industry has been making money for the last 90 years (and majorly in the last 50) on an idea whose time has finally come. Now if you will excuse me, I'm going to fight to have the car declared illegal because my horse whip business is going under.
NOTE: My source for this inofrmation is an issue of Time Digital I read in the summer while visiting the America.
I mean, he brought his high school's network to its knees. During a computer programming contest. Because he was finished it early and was bored. Reminds me of me, except I am not that good a programmer (although, with the system security at my HS, I didn't have to be *grin*).
I really don't think he has a high opinion of network administrators. Especially the incompetent variety, which this will hurt the most. After all, the good ones will simply knock on the door of the worst offender and nicely tell him to stop. That works a lot better IMHO than simply blocking off ports without warning; that's just inviting a bandwidth revolt.
Thi GPL is not mentioned in Linux articles. The source code availability is only sorta mentioned. I forgive the teacher. Still, I wish I could have seen that.
:).
You ever try explaining the GPL to a corporate person (who this teacher prolly was)?
"The source code is freely distributable."
"Okay...I think..."
"If you make a change to the code, and redistribute the binary, you have to provide the source code with the changes you made..."
"WHAT?"
"...or you violate the GPL and can't distribute the program any more."
"So how is somebody supposod to make money on that?"
"They're not. They can sell support."
"WHAT?"
"Like Redhat does."
"Nobody will write stuff for free."
You know where the argument goes at this point
Yes, a good train engine will crush a penny. However, a full soup can would derail the train, or at least give the engineer nightmares. If you say, put a chunk of rail on the line, a disaster will happen, It does not take as much as you may think to put the train off kilter; the wheels on the trucks are round, after all, and not designed to leave the flanges.
:).
So, either way, keeping the track clear is a bitch of a job
Ask yourself this question:
If I have to live next to trait tracks, do I want a loud noise once an hour, or a really annoying buzz 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, or at least until the power goes out? I'd take the loud noise in a heartbeat. I'd take an apartment that wasn't near train tracks even sooner, but begger's can't be choosers.
That's right kids, when you wear the new PokeTiara you can find all of the PokeTrainers in the area. Then you can have big Pokefights!
Never mind the fact that one of these imaging things is in the Pokecrystal on the PokeTiara telling Nintendo whether Pokemon is played more in little groups or big groups. It can even be modified to tell teachers if Pokemon is being played at nap time.
The idea may be crazy, but I'm sure real company executives (the gov't wouldn't try it when it's cheaper to buy the information from the megacorps; especially after the lawsuits) could come up with crazier ideas.
It's *much* more likely that the ISP would actually be an ISP, along the lines of Internet Direct (here in Canada anyway). Internet Direct already has an alliance with Future Shop and eMachines, so something like this seems to be a perfect fit for them.
But then, it could also be an ancient method for feeding babies :).
I think that the real problem here is one of ego. We should not have to adapt to Microsoft. Microsoft should have to adopt to us.
The real question is whether or not the extra stuff they throw in is really worth it; personally, I think it was just a cheap workaround. The typical NT authorization stuff sends the equivilent of a cookie to the client holding the "I belong to this group, that group, and the other group." M$ had to stick that info somewhere (or rewrite the whole authorization scheme, which is never a good thing, even if it's broken), and there was a place in the Kerberos ticket to do that.
Let's play DA/Crown Attorney for a minute:
1. I am charging a guy with
- having a baseball bat in his hand so he can kill somebody with it (posession)
- using the baseball bat to kill somebody with it (agg. assault)
- killing somebody with a baseball bat (murder)
I can't get him on the murder charge, the assault charge is iffy, but I can get him to plead down to possession.
Basically, the charge has to be on the indictment for a plea to work. Hence the silly little charges tagged on top of the big charge.
That, and it since you are only cutting the CD twice after burning it, producing the things becomes (marginally) chaper
(Anon L0ser said this too, but it bears repeating).
The picture is of the die (the little black thing in the middle of the actual chip). The die on your old 486 is about the same size.
Still, it makes for pretty imagery.
NOTE: I have not looked over the ABit stuff, so the info in this post could very well be dead wrong.
How about this variant on reality:
Joe "power user" buys a new ABit BP6. With the mobo, in the box, is a CD-ROM labelled Gentus Linux. Joe "power user" always wanted to play with Linux, and gives this distro he got *without even trying* a shot. He likes it. He then does a little research and tries out Debian.
Sounds good to me.
Plus, if (and this is a fairly big if) ABit puts a littli "Powered by RedHat" logo on the CD, Joe "Power User" should be able to figure out fairly quickly that he can use RPMs.
Mind you, I think Gentus will get blown to Hell when Joe "Power User" tries to recompile the kernel. But that's another story.
I mean, DeCSS is a very descriptive name for a file that removes a Cascading Style Sheet from an HTML page. It might not do anything of any real importance, but neither does my website.
Civil disobedience is good, and it works...slowly. Around here (ON.ca) the drug laws are being loosened a tiny bit at a time (I, for one, think the gov't should legalize and tax the Hell out of marijuana...then it'd be just like cigarettes, only with a nicer smell).
My point: it's funny. Laugh.
There is only one (big) problem with that plan: Win2k is over $400. M$ is writing the successor to Win98 (code named Millenium, IIRC).
The real problem with switching to an NT only OS is games. Games (and DirectX) don't like the atuhoritarian control that NT's HAL has on the hardware. Let's face it; the HAL, while a good idea in theory, was implemented badly. Sorta like most things M$
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I said most of the time. That is the exception, not the rule. If I sat and thought about it, I could come up with a few more examples, but in general it's like WinZip:
The Wizard is simple, but doesn't do much.
The Classic interface is powerful, but is hard for newbies.
You rarely get both. Which is really too bad, but that's life.
Simple: Easy to use IS good. Mind you: Powerful IS good too.
Most of the time, however, Easy to use != Powerful.
The apparent goal here is to get Linux on every desktop, and the way to do that is to make it easy to use. The nice thing about Linux is that, even after all of that, if you would rather do things the hard way, you CAN. While it would be nice to get my network card to work without using ifconfig (damn PC card, even in Corel Linux I had to write a script that called ifconfig to get it to work on a regular basis), it's nice to know the option exists (or, I would have to open the COntrol Center every time).
Linux has the potential to be easy to use and powerful, all at the same time. So stop whining.
You forgot that Satan threw the fight. He raked in a ton of cash, and left a happier demon.
There is only three responses to a man who writes a completely wrong article:
1. Call the man a dumbass (I did not do that).
2. Ignore him until he goes away (which he hasn't).
3. Write back, pointing out every factual innaccuracy in the article.
I have no doubt that my points will be ignored. But, at least I tried.
Apparently you haven't been watching the New VR. Roger is just *so* comprehensible.
/. audience (refer to the whole "Ask Jon Katz Anything" thread). And wtf is "cockney influenced talking"? There *is* a difference between being lazy and being clear. I guess nobody ever told you to keep it simple, stupid.
But to be serious here, while I don't really like Jon Katz's writing style, it's not actually bad. In fact, it is in fact too generalized for the
I will admit that I lost your point about halfway through your post. Your sentences were complex, they ran on, and in the end they did not make sense. I lost your point because *you disproved it*.
(NOTE: If I do not make sense, it's because I'm at work and my brain is in idle).
While obfuscating this code (I was in the mood) I removed a word I shouldn't have: marketing.
Therefore:
Comptetition == Good; M$ Marketing !~ Competition; M$ != Good;
Note that people hate the M$ DOS/Windows combination not because it was a bad OS (I will not comment there), but because for a good five years or so it was the ONLY OS.
Competition == Good; :).
<BR>M$ != Competition;
<BR>Therefore M$ != Good;
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<BR>I think that pretty much sums up the feeling around here, complete with only 4 real words
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<BR>(Sorry if this is a repeat. No computers like me today.)