Well, you can't just go and buy every piece of third-party software to test against. That becomes prohibitively expensive and time consuming. This is the first time we've had an issue like this. I wouldn't call it a compatibility issue either. The user has chosen to use software that actively interferes with other applications. There's not a lot we can do about that.
Ahmen. We had one customer contact us this week threatening to go to the press and Microsoft and goodness knows who else because his registry had been corrupted installing our software, and he'd spent $99 on (apparently useless) Dell tech support. Turns out his problems all stemmed from Ad Watch.
How expensive is that compared with fossil fuels? With those billions of taxpayers dollars are spent providing security to ensure regular delivery of oil from their source. A price not reflected for instance in the prices at the gas pump. Then there is all the pollution that causes things asthma, contributing to medical bills.
Care to back up your statements with some links to stories of problems caused by exploits occuring before the announcement? No of course not - you can't. You should be moderated troll, not insightful.
.Net Framework 1.1 part of the OS?/.ers have double-standards. When Microsoft announces security updates it's to do with the OS (even if it doesn't involve things like kernel32.dll). When a Linux vendor announces security it's got nothing to do with the OS (not part of the kernel). Wake up and smell the coffee and start comparing things on an even basis yourself.
Which ignoramus of a dumb moderator marked the parent as offtopic? Stand up and be counted you fool!
This is an article about the new Google groups. The parent correctly brought up a relevant point that the left threaded pane is now longer present. Usenet threads aren't linear with just one line of replies, but rather multiple replies per posting, and thus the potential for multiple threads of conversation for each topic. Getting rid of the threaded view is dumb.
I view privacy as my first line of defense against the assault by the State and business on my freedom. Too many people seem willing to disregard their privacy, or not at least not care too much about others delving in to it. Contrary to many Libertarian values, I believe this is a situation where more government regulation is required to strengthen and protect my liberty. The US has shockingly poor privacy laws, and it seems now that Europe is on the brink of weakening their own inadequate ones. In the UK, I view the 1984 Data Protection Act as bare-minumum foundation, yet even there, the current Labour government is making noises about changing the law.
Strewth: do they not have a net installer with just a basic small (e.g. 35MB) bootableISO download yet? Why waste your precious bandwidth on packages you're never going to use? Try Debian see why I don't ever want to download Mandrake again.
I wish Mandrake come up with some way for me to upgrade painlessly over the 'net without having to download and burn GBs of ISO. If I can't get it done, the next time I try to upgrade my Mandrake 8.1 system, I'll replace it with Debian and never worry about it again.
I'm not originally from Canada. I don't watch their local news as it seems modelled on the American style - dull, cat stick in tree stories. It's not quite as low quality though. I've lived in the US, so I know first hand, and I still occasionally run in to Channel 4 from Detroit - ahhhh. CBC is a bit better. If you ever get to watch BBC World, it has news broadcasts more in line with what I expect. News that matters, not news that no matter how insignificant, made it because it's local. Don't tell me that's because it's an international channel - CNN is too, and anyway, those are same as the national broadcasts in the UK. That tells you something when a national broadcast is good enough for international broadcasting too. And, let's be honest, a 5.2 Richter earthquake in CA isn't even big news there in the grand scheme of things, and should warrant nothing more than brief mention towards the end of news broadcast.
Flamebait? Sheesh: I guess some moderators have no sense of imagination or humour. I happen like to go and sit in my "office" with a newspaper or book. The joke was: 802.11 allows me to take my laptop there too, a more convenient solution that bringing the toilet to my real office. Some people need to be beaten around the head with a cluestick.
CNN aren't much better. I remember about 6 years ago. A hurricane came in over Myrtle Beach in the Carolinas. They had people down there giving live coverage for 12 before until 24 hours after. It was the big news story of the week. Nobody died. A number of people had their lives temporarily distrupted. Most who had property damaged would have been able to claim on their insurance and get on with their lives. CNN didn't breathe one word about the typhoon that hit Bangladesh at the same time, killing many, and making many many more homeless. So CNN lives up to everybody's stereotypes about Americans. But I ask you this, how significant is the/. central CA posse? 70%? 40%? I bet it is a lot lot less. And anyway, your comment about Gujerat not being newsworthy for this site just exemplifies stereotypes about selfishness, self-centredness, self obssiossion and lack of care for one's fellow humans. You must be an American.
There's been no mention of much more significant quakes that actually killed people, like the one in Gujerat last year which was 6.9 on the Richter Scale. I guess/. is doing it's bit to live up to American stereotypes.
I'd never really seen anybody with warts until my first job. A company of under 30 people had at least 5 people with several warts on their hands. I had 12 warts on both hands with 2-3 years of starting at that place. I've always blamed the keyboards and mice for spreading the virus.
Unlike the moderators who seem to have suffered a major sense of humour failure, I found your comment amusing.
Judging by what I can see at www.m-w.com, I think that Americans actually do say "hemming and hawing" - another one of those peculiar quirks in their dialect of English. I suspect you were moderated down by Americans, too bad.
"So his "everyone" doesn't matter, but yours does?"
No. My point was that his argument was flawed, especially considering his emphasis on the word "everyone".
"Could someone explain why there is a holy war about date format?"
Some people do seem to take it rather personally, don't they? The biggest problem I think comes from the confusion that the differences cause. Even I get frustrated going around the web and having to hit back and fill out a form again because they weren't clear about the date format. Why is there a holy war by some Linux people against MSFT? Well, they often come in to a well established system, adopt a protocol or standard, but miss-use it causing interoperability problems, etc. This is the same as how the rest of the world often feels about the US, and in this case, US date formats.
Perhaps, the EU will issue a directive one day about standard date formats. Yes, bureaucratic and interferring, but with good intentions. I hope for global interoperabilities sake that they choose the ISO format. Standardisation is good, and wouldn't we want to lose any more Mars probes due to conflicting standards, would we?
BTW, I too like YYYYMMDD. It works well on file systems when it comes to sorting. It's also clear and un-ambiguous, especially when I have to exchange SQL between Americans (USians) and anybody else.
The people you call everyone are pretty irrelevant in the global scheme of things. I and everyone I know says 11th of September, and look down at people who say it the other way for being ignorant Americans.
Although the US consumes an obscene amount of the world's resources and energy, and go around trying to bully everybody else into doing what they what, the American people only represent a small part of the world's population. Don't forget that. What seems as the way everybody does it to you is probably only the way Americans do it, and thus globally irrelevant. What is it with you Americans and your "not invented here" syndrome, and having to do things slightly differently to everybody else? Is it a deliberate attempt to be facitious, protectionist, and just plain annoying?
"First of all, ACPI was created to [...] end the IRQ conflicts so common with earlier versions of Windows and hardware.
I disabled ACPI on my machine... but IRQ conflicts aren't a problem as it is an SMP box. Yep, that's right, my graphics card is on IRQ 128, sound card on 80, network in 76, etc. Very nice solution;)
It sounds something like a Google cache. I definitely think that a short-term cache would be a good idea. It could all be done through redirects: if slashdot can't open the page in a reasonable time frame, then they should serve a cached copy. I'm aware that some sites rely on hit count for ad revenue, but once it's/.ed, that becomes irrelevant. Using a cached copy when the page is over-loaded should allow them to still get hits, and allow other people to see the site.
BAD USER: Kills default install of ANY operating system more than a couple of hours old.
Come on, get real. Stop being such a zealous anti-MSFT bigot. If I fully install a two year old version of Red Hat, it will be just as much of a liability as a default install of Win2K. A two year old version of Red Hat has just as many fatal diseases.
Exactly! In fact, NT5 turned out to be the best OS release from MSFT ever. I haven't reinstalled it in the 2 years that I've had it installed, which is exceptional for a MSFT OS. The thing is pretty damn stable.
If that's all you're going to use it for, why would spend all that money on it when I could get something just as functional for a fraction the price from companies like Netgear or Linksys?
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Well, you can't just go and buy every piece of third-party software to test against. That becomes prohibitively expensive and time consuming. This is the first time we've had an issue like this. I wouldn't call it a compatibility issue either. The user has chosen to use software that actively interferes with other applications. There's not a lot we can do about that.
Ahmen. We had one customer contact us this week threatening to go to the press and Microsoft and goodness knows who else because his registry had been corrupted installing our software, and he'd spent $99 on (apparently useless) Dell tech support. Turns out his problems all stemmed from Ad Watch.
How expensive is that compared with fossil fuels? With those billions of taxpayers dollars are spent providing security to ensure regular delivery of oil from their source. A price not reflected for instance in the prices at the gas pump. Then there is all the pollution that causes things asthma, contributing to medical bills.
Care to back up your statements with some links to stories of problems caused by exploits occuring before the announcement? No of course not - you can't. You should be moderated troll, not insightful.
.Net Framework 1.1 part of the OS? /.ers have double-standards. When Microsoft announces security updates it's to do with the OS (even if it doesn't involve things like kernel32.dll). When a Linux vendor announces security it's got nothing to do with the OS (not part of the kernel). Wake up and smell the coffee and start comparing things on an even basis yourself.
Which ignoramus of a dumb moderator marked the parent as offtopic? Stand up and be counted you fool!
This is an article about the new Google groups. The parent correctly brought up a relevant point that the left threaded pane is now longer present. Usenet threads aren't linear with just one line of replies, but rather multiple replies per posting, and thus the potential for multiple threads of conversation for each topic. Getting rid of the threaded view is dumb.
I view privacy as my first line of defense against the assault by the State and business on my freedom. Too many people seem willing to disregard their privacy, or not at least not care too much about others delving in to it. Contrary to many Libertarian values, I believe this is a situation where more government regulation is required to strengthen and protect my liberty. The US has shockingly poor privacy laws, and it seems now that Europe is on the brink of weakening their own inadequate ones. In the UK, I view the 1984 Data Protection Act as bare-minumum foundation, yet even there, the current Labour government is making noises about changing the law.
Strewth: do they not have a net installer with just a basic small (e.g. 35MB) bootableISO download yet? Why waste your precious bandwidth on packages you're never going to use? Try Debian see why I don't ever want to download Mandrake again.
I wish Mandrake come up with some way for me to upgrade painlessly over the 'net without having to download and burn GBs of ISO. If I can't get it done, the next time I try to upgrade my Mandrake 8.1 system, I'll replace it with Debian and never worry about it again.
I'm not originally from Canada. I don't watch their local news as it seems modelled on the American style - dull, cat stick in tree stories. It's not quite as low quality though. I've lived in the US, so I know first hand, and I still occasionally run in to Channel 4 from Detroit - ahhhh. CBC is a bit better. If you ever get to watch BBC World, it has news broadcasts more in line with what I expect. News that matters, not news that no matter how insignificant, made it because it's local. Don't tell me that's because it's an international channel - CNN is too, and anyway, those are same as the national broadcasts in the UK. That tells you something when a national broadcast is good enough for international broadcasting too. And, let's be honest, a 5.2 Richter earthquake in CA isn't even big news there in the grand scheme of things, and should warrant nothing more than brief mention towards the end of news broadcast.
Flamebait? Sheesh: I guess some moderators have no sense of imagination or humour. I happen like to go and sit in my "office" with a newspaper or book. The joke was: 802.11 allows me to take my laptop there too, a more convenient solution that bringing the toilet to my real office. Some people need to be beaten around the head with a cluestick.
CNN aren't much better. I remember about 6 years ago. A hurricane came in over Myrtle Beach in the Carolinas. They had people down there giving live coverage for 12 before until 24 hours after. It was the big news story of the week. Nobody died. A number of people had their lives temporarily distrupted. Most who had property damaged would have been able to claim on their insurance and get on with their lives. CNN didn't breathe one word about the typhoon that hit Bangladesh at the same time, killing many, and making many many more homeless. So CNN lives up to everybody's stereotypes about Americans. But I ask you this, how significant is the /. central CA posse? 70%? 40%? I bet it is a lot lot less. And anyway, your comment about Gujerat not being newsworthy for this site just exemplifies stereotypes about selfishness, self-centredness, self obssiossion and lack of care for one's fellow humans. You must be an American.
There's been no mention of much more significant quakes that actually killed people, like the one in Gujerat last year which was 6.9 on the Richter Scale. I guess /. is doing it's bit to live up to American stereotypes.
We get some earthquakes too. I got awoken one morning a few weeks ago here in Toronto by an quake centred near Montreal (I think).
I thought that was why they invented 802.11.
I'd never really seen anybody with warts until my first job. A company of under 30 people had at least 5 people with several warts on their hands. I had 12 warts on both hands with 2-3 years of starting at that place. I've always blamed the keyboards and mice for spreading the virus.
"But the blatantly obvious can be funny. Spaghetty growing on trees is pretty bleeding obvious, but it's still funny. "
It wouldn't have worked or been so funny if it had part of an evening of similar programmes.
Unlike the moderators who seem to have suffered a major sense of humour failure, I found your comment amusing.
Judging by what I can see at www.m-w.com, I think that Americans actually do say "hemming and hawing" - another one of those peculiar quirks in their dialect of English. I suspect you were moderated down by Americans, too bad.
"So his "everyone" doesn't matter, but yours does?"
No. My point was that his argument was flawed, especially considering his emphasis on the word "everyone".
"Could someone explain why there is a holy war about date format?"
Some people do seem to take it rather personally, don't they? The biggest problem I think comes from the confusion that the differences cause. Even I get frustrated going around the web and having to hit back and fill out a form again because they weren't clear about the date format. Why is there a holy war by some Linux people against MSFT? Well, they often come in to a well established system, adopt a protocol or standard, but miss-use it causing interoperability problems, etc. This is the same as how the rest of the world often feels about the US, and in this case, US date formats.
Perhaps, the EU will issue a directive one day about standard date formats. Yes, bureaucratic and interferring, but with good intentions. I hope for global interoperabilities sake that they choose the ISO format. Standardisation is good, and wouldn't we want to lose any more Mars probes due to conflicting standards, would we?
BTW, I too like YYYYMMDD. It works well on file systems when it comes to sorting. It's also clear and un-ambiguous, especially when I have to exchange SQL between Americans (USians) and anybody else.
The people you call everyone are pretty irrelevant in the global scheme of things. I and everyone I know says 11th of September, and look down at people who say it the other way for being ignorant Americans.
Although the US consumes an obscene amount of the world's resources and energy, and go around trying to bully everybody else into doing what they what, the American people only represent a small part of the world's population. Don't forget that. What seems as the way everybody does it to you is probably only the way Americans do it, and thus globally irrelevant. What is it with you Americans and your "not invented here" syndrome, and having to do things slightly differently to everybody else? Is it a deliberate attempt to be facitious, protectionist, and just plain annoying?
"First of all, ACPI was created to [...] end the IRQ conflicts so common with earlier versions of Windows and hardware.
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I disabled ACPI on my machine... but IRQ conflicts aren't a problem as it is an SMP box. Yep, that's right, my graphics card is on IRQ 128, sound card on 80, network in 76, etc. Very nice solution
It sounds something like a Google cache. I definitely think that a short-term cache would be a good idea. It could all be done through redirects: if slashdot can't open the page in a reasonable time frame, then they should serve a cached copy. I'm aware that some sites rely on hit count for ad revenue, but once it's /.ed, that becomes irrelevant. Using a cached copy when the page is over-loaded should allow them to still get hits, and allow other people to see the site.
Two words:
BAD USER: Kills default install of ANY operating system more than a couple of hours old.
Come on, get real. Stop being such a zealous anti-MSFT bigot. If I fully install a two year old version of Red Hat, it will be just as much of a liability as a default install of Win2K. A two year old version of Red Hat has just as many fatal diseases.
Exactly! In fact, NT5 turned out to be the best OS release from MSFT ever. I haven't reinstalled it in the 2 years that I've had it installed, which is exceptional for a MSFT OS. The thing is pretty damn stable.
If that's all you're going to use it for, why would spend all that money on it when I could get something just as functional for a fraction the price from companies like Netgear or Linksys?