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Slashback: Apache, DRM, Limbo
Those guys did not ride in with us. Sascha Schumann of the Apache Software Foundation wrote to correct the story presented in Monday's post (".Net for Apache"), writing "this is _not_ a joint Apache Software Foundation/Microsoft stunt. It has not been approved or endorsed by the Apache Software Foundation, nor does it require any of those acts -- it is a deal between two private companies, Covalent and Microsoft."
Fly on wall video, anyone? kikensei writes: "DSL Reports has a story summarizing last week's DRM round table that was stacked with corporate panel members. You can read it here. It presents a much more apt framework for discussion than the overly sensitive, passive account from Al3x that defined our discussion last week."
Dancing in limbo, limbo, limbo. Earlier this month, we mentioned Red Hat's new beta, called Limbo. wiredog writes "From eWeek, a review of RedHat 8.0 beta. With gcc 3.1,the latest versions of GNOME, Mozilla and OpenOffice, and Apache 2.0"
The force is strong in these metallic boxes. Verizon Guy writes "CNet is reporting that Industrial Light and Magic, the group responsible for rendering the special effects in the Star Wars films, is moving away from their proprietary SGI/IRIX/RISC based systems and is instead moving to Dells running Linux. This will give them 100% performance at 20% of the cost."
Here's a link to our post with the recent Linux Journal article on same; look for more on this soon.
Wear name tags, please. mpawlo writes "Slashdot meetup day is only a week away. Some 4 500 people have already signed up to meet all over the world on Thursday July 25, 2002, 7 pm. We need more fellow Swedes to meet in Stockholm and I guess the same goes for other cities."
We hate registering for websites! Haven't you learned that by now? .
According to the top meetup list, more than 200 meetings are with 5 or less people. I wonder how many of them will actually take place. The 70 meetups with only one member will be really cool... at least there's no risk the other guests are boring.
Teenagers these days don't have as much sex as they want each other to think they do.
No, four groups of 500, in random locations. Best of luck finding them!
sulli
RTFJ.
He said he's from Sweden. Much of Europe doesn't use the comma to split up long numbers, they use the space instead (the comman replaces our decimal point). So it's 4,500.
Some 4 500 people have already signed up to meet...
4,500 people! I feel sorry for the three girls that are gonna show up. Behave yourselfz, gentlemen! Keep your 1337n335 where it belongs!
In order to learn the secret location of a geek get together in your area, you must submit your email address.
The site promises that I won't be spammed, but I have found repeatedly that many companies don't share my definition of spam. More often than not, when a company promises not to use my email address for spam, what they mean is that they won't sell my address (for now). However, they don't consider sending me a weekly newsletter consisting soley of product ads to be spam.
Yeah I suppose a newbie might not understand it first off. Slashback revisits stories posten recently with some interesting (and sometimes vital) additional info or clarifications. They usually do around one or two slashbacks a week. These are the articles where replys to the editorial team like "Thats not true!!" or "You should have also had a link to this..." go.
It's a sort of errata. Corrections and updates to articles posted earlier in Slashdot are published here.
Teenagers these days don't have as much sex as they want each other to think they do.
You might not sign up for Meetup, but I just want to say that Scott Heiferman (Meetup's Co-Founder & CEO) is a swell guy.
Here's what I do: Bitty Browser & Andromeda
i thought this was open source version .NET framework for linux/apache. it would be nice to have .NET run on linux then we could finally pack away the java and just drink it. I could cook the beans and make me fart instead of coding with them. .NET frankly kicks java's a$$ but if MS keeps it restricted java will continue to be for more than creating farts on the weekend for grillouts with the wife!
Anyone who has successfully downloaded the new Mandrake beta want to comment on that?
What? We're no longer permitted to respond in-band? Or can the Mandrake Beta now claim to be /.'s quickest
Slashback topic?
In other words: huh?
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And it's only the Devil Rays...
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
Funny... according to the RHL mailing list, and the RH-Limbo mailing list...
Limbo is 7.3.92... not 8.
Among other things, it's a chance for slashdot to milk past stories for as many page hits as possible.
About time. I can still remember the news about how advanced the Terminator 2 movie was in terms of Computer Graphics, breakthrough bla bla blah.
More info about the movie here, here, and here.
Obviously "Slashback" is Slashdot jargon for "Flashback", ie revisiting older Slashdot content for correction.
Please tell me that this is not supposed to be based on the Arthur C. Clarke novel.
Every go back to what you were doing with PHP, Perl and tomcat.
Only if they provide tags I will. If they have these corny "Hello, I am " stickers/tags, I will blatantly refuse...
Verizon Guy, you are my hero. So is Bankofamerica_ATM.
I have no clue what you are talking about... ;)
Slashdot meetup day is only a week away
What is the week stuff, it's only 2 days away.
I'll just refer back to
my original comment
Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
That's hardly obvious, yo. I've been coming here for four years and didn't notice it.
I pretty much figure we'll see the first ever recorded Slashdotting of a bowling alley!
> Digital Revelations is largely relying on
> Intel-based computers for the effects on "Rendezvous
> with Rama," a thriller coming out next year in
> which a group of humans seek revenge on aliens
> that blow up Italy.
Possibly offtopic, but I don't remember Arthur Clarke's story having any mention of destroying Italy...
For the love of GOD learn to spell, and then learn to type.
Putting in a fake email address (mine was dicklessjoe@dick.org) will get you the meetup location without email confirmation. In my case, it's about 500M from my workplace, so I will drop in.
I'll bite. What does this refer too? None of the articles mention a baby do they?
I have a friend who has a friend who etc. works for ILM. They had planned this thing for a loooong time and they had assigned three (small) teams to this swithover project.
;) .
One of the teams was to investigate the actual power of Linux in this domain and the offer of the marked. Techies .
Second team was to look over the market see about savings, opportunities, investors, stuff like that. Financial $tuff
The existence of the third team will probably never be acknowledged, but their task was to look into what their competitors who switched to Linux (see preview slashdot's announces of switchovers) were doing, how were they doing it, what impact on their revenues had, etc. I'd say spies. They've done a pretty good job.
Of course, this is highly fictional and has no relation to any living person or existing company
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Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace!
but is this the first /. meetup day?
If not, what to expect? I was real big into the BBS GT scene 10 years ago, it was fun, I don't think much has changed though.
Either way, I'll show up in Montreal. See you there!
> Digital Revelations is largely relying on
... just an encounter with an intelligence (or perhaps just an automated machine) we are apparently unequiped to understand. A fun and very thoughtful story, which the blurb you quote above seems to imply Hollywood is shameless bastardizing into something unrecognizable and repellant.
> Intel-based computers for the effects on "Rendezvous
> with Rama," a thriller coming out next year in
> which a group of humans seek revenge on aliens
> that blow up Italy.
Possibly offtopic, but I don't remember Arthur Clarke's story having any mention of destroying Italy...
IFF that caption accurately represents the Hollywood interpretation of Arthur C. Clark's masterpiece the movie will not be worth seeing.
In the book a meteor of natural origion caused tremendouse damage to the Earth when it skimmed by the atmosphere (I don't recall if Italy was affected per se, but it may have been), resulting is the construction of a space defense against any future incoming rocks. This defense detected an inert alien craft entering the solar system (years or decades after the defense system had been built), and a science mission was sent to explore it.
The encounter is a little remeniscent of Stanislaw Lem's Fiasco. The scientists experience a great deal, see a lot, learn a little, but those who survive come away at the end mostly baffled and uncomprehending of what they saw.
No "evil alien attacking" or other such nonsense
The Future of Human Evolution: Autonomy
The meet FAQ specifically states that nobody "runs" the meets. They are instead pure peer-to-peer gatherings.
If someone were to bring a floppy disk or CD with an MP3 file on it, or even a sheet of music with lyrics, wouldn't that technically violate the DMCA resulting in the RIAA attempting to prosecute the whole meet structure? As an organized peer-to-peer structure, it MUST have no other purpose than to violate copyrights, right?
I've got my good buddy Fritz on the line. Maybe he'll funnel some of that good sweet Disney or RIAA Christmas money my way. I'll wash his campaign limo so it's all legal as payment for a service of course... You peer-to-peer criminals have only one thing in mind, and you're the biggest threat to individual expression and creativity the universe has ever seen!
*wakes up in cold sweat, hits "decline" RSVP link*
Industrial Light and Magic, you're getting a dell!
The problem with the meetup situation is that they seem to think people won't go outside a few blocks from their homes to meet up. I mean there are a lot of /. ppl in newyork but it restricts groups to small locations. There are 5 people in queens, ny for example but there are many in new york city. I bet a larger group of people would be willing to meet up if the venue was larger even if some people have to take public transit into the city.
Please stop signing me up for mailing lists. I am tired of getting your spam.
Sincerely,
Joe Dickless
Society for the Prohibition of Circumcision
dicklessjoe@dick.org
I'm getting that "they're going to rape and pillage it like Starship Troopers" feeling. What a waste.
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
So it's kind of like those dupe articles on slashdot due to lazy editors?
You might not sign up for Meetup, but I just want to say that Scott Heiferman (Meetup's Co-Founder & CEO) is a swell guy.
/. :)
Hey, Scott! Good to know you hang out on
- fader
Check out the top cities for Slashdot Meetup Day. First on the list is Toronto. Vancouver (13) and Montreal (Tied-14) are in the top 20; taken together they outscore the combination of San Francisco and San Jose. Outside of Canada, London (England) is second on the list (the top American city is Washington, at third). The Aussies are putting in a strong showing with three in the top 20: Melbourne (6), Sydney (7), and Brisbane (11); Perth weighs in at 32nd. "Majority" is too strong a word to use, but ... are us non-Americans taking over Slashdot?
Toronto-area transit rider? Rate your ride.
I think its rediculous how the manhattan location is getting all of NY's members, what about Queens?? Long island?? There are 5 or 6 people to those locations. LAME!
:)
Theres more to NY than the over populated and polluted island.
I just dl'ed disc 1 and grabbed the rest of the junk I need from cooker. . .
Hang out on /. and sometimes get hung out to dry, but I must apologize: I'm not triangulating on 'fader'. Howbout a hint...
Here's what I do: Bitty Browser & Andromeda
They're just the only ones that would go to a Slashdot meet-up
You've been coming here for four years and didn't work it out? Are the new glasses helping?
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SLASHDOT GET TOGETHER
Please bring the following items:
- Trollbot
- Know-it-all Attitude
- Socialist Mindset
- Secret piggy-bank where you keep that big karma horde
- "I love/hate Linus" Flag
- e-Book version of the Bible, preprocessed to replace "God" and "Lord" with "Richard Stallman" and "Eric Raymond", respectively.
- Outrageously Customized Computer Case (Laboratory Eyeshades optional)
- Anti-Editorial-Censorship SLASH backdoor
- Photoshopped picture of you and a beautiful woman (woman stolen, of course from OMM's coverage of QuakeCon)
- Editors: Your favorite foot (for insertion into your collective mouth)
Come one come all!!!Oh come on we are supposed to be the second damn silicon valley or something like that.
/. is not exactly friendly to. . . .
Ok so granted most of the high tech companies around here
Err, but crud. With Real Networks, McNeel Software, Wild Tangent, Immunex, and so forth all around here, why doesn't Seattle have a few hundred people minimum signed up? Not to mention Boeing, Starbucks, Seattle's Best Coffee, and other Nerd and Geek related enterprises.
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Heh, that was actually pretty funny.
Ceci n'est pas un post
Or 4 and a half. :)
The problem didn't happen in the LA-Beverly Hills-Hollywood (damn, who concatenated that unholy hodge-podge!) area. 48 geeks will be dropping by Jillian's Bowling Alley in CityWalk for the meetup. Including moi.
I would have actually preferred a little more localism. A San Fernando Valley meetup would have been way better for my purposes (Sherman Oaks, anyone?) and I'm sure Westsiders would have been much happier with a Venice or Santa Monica locale. Downtown would probably have been better for the NOC geeks centered around One Wilshire. However, it's cool that there will be such a throng.
I will be bringing the digital camera. Photos will be up at msgeek.org as soon as I can swing it after the big event.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
Jillian's is a bowling alley too. At CityWalk. In Universal City, CA. This is where the LA /.-ers will be meeting.
/.-ings of a bowling alley! Damn!
Two
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
Along with replacing its workstations, ILM also has installed a 1,000-processor render farm based on Advanced Micro Devices' Athlon processors and a server cluster built with Compaq Alpha processors.
So Intel chips get the headline but Athlon MP rackmounts do the serious computation. I bet if ILM had found a top-tier vendor with a decent Athlon business (vs. consumer) desktop configuration they'd have Athlon XP's on their desktops too. Or Athlon MP dual CPU workstations, which cost about the same as a high-end uniprocessor P4. Having fought with some thoroughly screwed up Dell Optiplexes recently, the support geeks at ILM have my sympathies.
(Not that the whole business vs. consumer thing really matters, until you try to convince purchasing of that point...)
I liked the RedHat beta review that was posted on eWeek. It pointed out a lot of positives but it wasn't overly complicated. I agree with the finding, RedHat needs to have a graphical font installer/manager that can change system-wide fonts in X such that I don't have to squint on my 1600x1200 desktop.
I haven't tried the beta yet, but it mentions a screen resolution changing tool. What exactly is this? Is it a tool that just changes the viewport size? Or does it in fact change the entire desktop's resolution? I hope it is the latter because I hate modlines.
>> Some 4 500 people
>would that be four thousand five hundred people, or
>four to five hundred people?
Four thousand five hundred.
In most of Europe, a space is used to seperate groups of digits, the comma is used to seperate real from fractional part (reasoning being that a dot is likely to be less visible)
>it's a big difference; so please let us (me,
>anyway) know.
Warning, culturally isolated Americans at work.
LURN TOO SPEL FUXOR
So I finally got all three ISO's DL'd by 9 PM last night. Tucked in the missus and slunk down to the den where the dual celeron 533 / 256 Mb / nVidia Gforce awaited my fresh meat like a hungry lion.
Next thing I booted up with disk 1, and the installer came up with a dialog (install from FTP/HTTP/CDROM/HD). I was going to upgrade from Mandrake 8.2, but the RPM database update took too long, so screw it. Hit reset. Repartition and blow it away. Format, check for bad blocks, select individual packages. I installed most of the workstation goodies, and GNOME as my WM. XFree 3.3.6 had 3D support. This is a media PC, hooked up to the stereo, and by 10:30 had a nice little desktop going. Moz 1.0, GNOME 2.0, no OpenOffice, nothing fancy, but very stable, and XMMS works like a champ. Grabbed some files and played DJ for a couple of hours today. Schwweet.
BTW, did anyone else see that Senator Tom Daschle posted a comment onOn a slightly off-topic note, how many goverments around the world are investigating Open Source? Britian, Peru, China, Russia, Norway, all this year. Seems like there is a wind of change blowing through many goverments. Maybe our goverment (USA) may want to investigate as well.
I may be bad with names, but I'll never forget your IP address
this story correcting the CNet story. Excerpt:
"We gave the writer of the CNET article a summary of the film (an accurate one) over the phone, which he summarized very, very inaccurately. Rendezvous with Rama will, under no circumstances, be "Starship Troopered"...
Here is the form that Bond spoke of: http://www.ta.doc.gov/comments/comments.htm
chown and chmod are your friends.
Why not fork?
I'm looking forward to the Rendezvous with Rama movie .. but I sure hope the bit about "revenge against aliens who blow up Italy" was a misprint. Talk about plot butchering.
To ensure that things get really complicated, some of us crazy europeans use a comma to seperate real and fractional parts and a DOT to seperate groups of digits (thousands, millions etc.). So where I come from (Denmark), 4500 could be written as 4.500, which I'm sure would confuse the American audience far more than 4 500. It's going out of style though - most young people don't seperate groups of digits in ordinary numbers, probably because of the confusion it often causes. We're a small country with limited resources for localization, so a lot of stuff used in higher education is foreign (typically anglo-american), where the 4,500.0 style is rampant. So to deal with that, we take away the grouping seperators and use a comma or dot interchangably as a real/frational seperator. :-)
Confused? You should be - we are
Black holes are where God divided by zero
That information is not available from myself; sorry. Perhaps you should contact your senator.
"Yeah I suppose a newbie might not understand" yeah its just so hard for a newbie to understand things. They're not people you know. And of course, none of us were ever new here. mwahahahaha
Then went over to Company X and offered the person who oversaw their Linux shift a large paypacket to switch.
Its the cheapest way to steal IP, just steal the people.
An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
Easy. Your email is cmdrtaco@slashdot.org, and your password is slashdot. I tried it, and I guess I am not the first one to try it, because it says "Welcome back cmdrtaco!"
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
I think most people understand the ./, interchange with monetary values as soon as they realize they're looking at currency data and notice the placement, ie
4.500,00
4,500.00
4 500,00
of course, the first time you see any given method it can be confusing, and clarification may be needed. It only gets worse when it's not currency values, as a decimal can have any given accuracy. In the case of "4 500", though, you're looking at a case where it could be either "4-500" or "4,500"/"4.500", which does make a big difference. If the number had been larger (4 500 000), then it may have been easier to determine (or more confusing?).
But then, that's what intelligence is like. Most CIA employees spend their work days analysing documents that are either public or not very hard to get. The people who sneak into the Pottsyvlvania embassy to photograph the secret war plans contribute to the information stream, but most of the work goes into analysing the information, not gathering it. Of course, nobody will ever make a movie about a guy sitting in a cube in Langley, reading foreign newspapers!
"Jack Valenti, spokesman of the MPAA, continued to make himself an easy target by insisting at one point that his group did not oppose the VCR."
Do you think this was an attempt at revisionism or did he really mean that his group did not successfully oppose the VCR?
Please, Americans can't even add up ballots.