There are a few comments here where people say "old news. apt-get. etc" While this style of distribution may be old news, it's not something people outside our community are aware of. Even if you hate MS, it's hard to deny how much research is done there. Somewhere around 1/4 of all computer graphics research is done there and they release papers for it too. Who knows what will come from them trying methods we hold dear. It could be good. If it's bad, then we don't have to care about their work.
Information is information regardless of where it comes from. What I'd really like to see is MS learning a lot from Linux distros and then incorporates things I happen to love about linux and oss into the system my employer forces me to use (so I can read spreadsheets... ugh). It would make my working life more fun.
The MS strategy here seems obvious to me. They bring a bunch of open source groups under their roof. The open source people who make money help MS make money as time goes by through support (not sure why MS is paying so much in advance, to be honest). The open source people embrace things like mono which work for any language (eventually) and on any system (mono). MS knows the uber geeks will probably still use Linux or Bsd or whatever, but they now can bring a LOT more open source software into the windows world. Beagle is a neat tool. Tomboy is neat. Are they neat enough for my mom to use on her windows computer? Possibly. MS could modify it and then redistribute, couldn't they? I think the gateway between free apps that are neat and their money making os is simply being opened.
If our software really is so much better, then what do we have to be afraid of. The software is GPL'd which means we're safe from anyone taking it away from us...
Pretend in every way that the software is not open source and people will start see no difference, except perhaps that the open source quality is higher... which is debatable...
Don't obfuscate the product with geeky crap like, "this program is a java program that is thread safe." No one cares unless they're a developer and even still you'd be lucky if they cared. Keep it simple. Say what the product does and why it's good at it (as in design, not ideology!) and let it speak for itself.
Just because it's open source doesn't mean you should be given a medal and a paycheck...
You missed a few other things google provides... though I did say gmail when I should've said google...
Anyway, I'm thinking more along the lines of using google as an exchange server and providing exchange type functionality directly into evolution from google. Maybe then I'd find the google calendar useful!
They don't sell them clean because they make money packaging all that crap on the system. They also test the system's performance by installing windows and benchmarking against what they expect...
That would be fantastic! Electronic billboards would be great too. They could feed the ads straight off Google's wireless networks. Or even be the way to make money off the wireless networks. I'd like to see google processing tv shows and placing ads by relevance there too. I also wouldn't mind if they'd weight the ad as more relevant if it's funnier...
If you have no idea what you're talking about, a closed mouth will gather less foot. Ideally, people should try to get and stay informed, but when election comes, if you didn't do your homework... don't ruin it for those of us that did.
Have you ever heard of physics? Because they're trying to solve all of that mathematically instead of saying, "poof. here we is!" The religions people believe in adjust themselves directly to match what people of the time understand about science. Why does anyone in any religion actually feel they have the real answer this time?
Is that really surprising?! Maybe because people in China aren't allowed to know how much worse it is... Their information is scrubbed before public dissemination in OR out of the country.
Cost effective? Domains cost like $10 a pop... I think if domain names prove to be a source of identity theft, companies will happily buy domain lookalikes rather than pay people to investigate fraud or suffer the loses...
Don't be silly. They want to make sure that anything where Linux as an alternative is better becomes not better. They're done fighting everyone and are embracing the democratization of innovation and personal preference. The uses of PHP or ASP don't have to be rational for them to make money selling windows server that run both...
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There are a few comments here where people say "old news. apt-get. etc" While this style of distribution may be old news, it's not something people outside our community are aware of. Even if you hate MS, it's hard to deny how much research is done there. Somewhere around 1/4 of all computer graphics research is done there and they release papers for it too. Who knows what will come from them trying methods we hold dear. It could be good. If it's bad, then we don't have to care about their work.
Information is information regardless of where it comes from. What I'd really like to see is MS learning a lot from Linux distros and then incorporates things I happen to love about linux and oss into the system my employer forces me to use (so I can read spreadsheets... ugh). It would make my working life more fun.
The MS strategy here seems obvious to me. They bring a bunch of open source groups under their roof. The open source people who make money help MS make money as time goes by through support (not sure why MS is paying so much in advance, to be honest). The open source people embrace things like mono which work for any language (eventually) and on any system (mono). MS knows the uber geeks will probably still use Linux or Bsd or whatever, but they now can bring a LOT more open source software into the windows world. Beagle is a neat tool. Tomboy is neat. Are they neat enough for my mom to use on her windows computer? Possibly. MS could modify it and then redistribute, couldn't they? I think the gateway between free apps that are neat and their money making os is simply being opened.
If our software really is so much better, then what do we have to be afraid of. The software is GPL'd which means we're safe from anyone taking it away from us...
Pretend in every way that the software is not open source and people will start see no difference, except perhaps that the open source quality is higher... which is debatable...
Don't obfuscate the product with geeky crap like, "this program is a java program that is thread safe." No one cares unless they're a developer and even still you'd be lucky if they cared. Keep it simple. Say what the product does and why it's good at it (as in design, not ideology!) and let it speak for itself.
Just because it's open source doesn't mean you should be given a medal and a paycheck...
You missed a few other things google provides... though I did say gmail when I should've said google... Anyway, I'm thinking more along the lines of using google as an exchange server and providing exchange type functionality directly into evolution from google. Maybe then I'd find the google calendar useful!
just because a service is given away for free does not mean it's not profitable. google has a lot to loose if people stop using their services...
see subject.
That might be a question for the NetBSD team.
But regular computers are so cheap already...
...with Linux on consoles? Is it just for the fun of getting it to run?
They don't sell them clean because they make money packaging all that crap on the system. They also test the system's performance by installing windows and benchmarking against what they expect...
Duh...
That would be fantastic! Electronic billboards would be great too. They could feed the ads straight off Google's wireless networks. Or even be the way to make money off the wireless networks. I'd like to see google processing tv shows and placing ads by relevance there too. I also wouldn't mind if they'd weight the ad as more relevant if it's funnier...
If you have no idea what you're talking about, a closed mouth will gather less foot. Ideally, people should try to get and stay informed, but when election comes, if you didn't do your homework... don't ruin it for those of us that did.
Where were you for the dmca, patriot act, iraq war, etc... Remember when half the country did put up a big stink and the leaders totally ignored it?
What's the legal status of that video being there?
seems like a similar debate to net neutrality.
I heard it was because you guys fart too much.
that they would get a ps2 now that they can fit one?!
has documentation too...
it's true.
Have you ever heard of physics? Because they're trying to solve all of that mathematically instead of saying, "poof. here we is!" The religions people believe in adjust themselves directly to match what people of the time understand about science. Why does anyone in any religion actually feel they have the real answer this time?
Is that really surprising?! Maybe because people in China aren't allowed to know how much worse it is... Their information is scrubbed before public dissemination in OR out of the country.
Agreed on this. We use JProbe where I work and IE7 broke it. Sucks...
Fortunately, I don't have use JProbe for my contributions to the project so I happily run FF2.
Cost effective? Domains cost like $10 a pop... I think if domain names prove to be a source of identity theft, companies will happily buy domain lookalikes rather than pay people to investigate fraud or suffer the loses...
Apple is BSD you dolt.
If they were smart, yes! They need to compete with the new super mega giant Linux rival (Oracle).
Don't be silly. They want to make sure that anything where Linux as an alternative is better becomes not better. They're done fighting everyone and are embracing the democratization of innovation and personal preference. The uses of PHP or ASP don't have to be rational for them to make money selling windows server that run both...