Thanks, botha yas. I was trying to be funny;)
Actually, I thought it was by server kernel on the NT side (with "workstation" versions like NT had) so that Win2K was NT5, Win2KSP4/XP NT5.1, Server2K3/XPSP2 NT5.2, Server2K3R2/Vista NT6, and Server2K8/Win7 as NT7. But hey, how many angels *can* you get to dance on the head of that pin?
Pretty straightforward, actually.
Ignore the 95 - 98 - ME taxonomy entirely.
Windows NT 4.0 ("NT4" - at MS)
Windows 2000 ("NT5")
Windows XP ("NT6")
Windows Vista ("Oops1")
Windows 7 ("NT7")
See how nicely that works?
--ckr
Do you know what scares me actually?
It's that we really have lost the middle ground. Many of us (not all, certainly... there is still, thank God, a strong centrist element to actual American thinking) have gotten to the point where we truly, really believe things that are mutually incompatible, and in which we can find no room for compromise. The last time we did that (1860) we broke out the guns and started shooting each other.
It's not that, from an objective (if one can find that) point of view that all McCain supporters or Sarah supporters are wrong. It's that they can not find legitimacy in their opponents' viewpoint at all. Same goes for some die-hard Democrats: it's not that they view Republicans as wrong so much as they view the Republican ideology as having no legitimate basis. The next step past this logical fallacy is demonisation or dehumanisation (as one does to opponents in a war). That is, "Those people who think that aren't really Americans; they're not true Patriots or true Christians". Ergo, their opinions lack enough merit to be even considered. Or, "Those people aren't nice, they are only greedy, unlike us". Ergo, all of their opinions are suspect on any topic, and to be considered only with extreme prejudice.
This sort of naked polarisation leads to exactly the kind of hysterical rhetoric and ugly commentary you hear on the streets and see in the media and online. "If their side wins, well, he won't be *my* president". That sort of concept in all its forms is the antithesis of accepted democracy, and perilously close to dissolution. That's what really scares me. --ckr
Actually, those two really are as you describe, and are mostly valid. NCIC is used for exactly what you're describing.
TIPS on the other hand isn't. It's national, not state run, and it really is a database of what the PD refers to as "persons of interest". It's about the most pernicious thing I've seen come out since 9/11 in the States; many LE folks don't even like it because it is just opinion and rumour. Any authorised police official (usually this is investigators, detectives, Lt. and above) can enter anything into it about anyone who interests them. It's searchable and there need be no conviction or even arrest involved.
It's precisely the sort of database you do not want to get into. Because it is prejudicial, it can't be used directly in court, but it can lead to law enforcement taking a long scrutinising look at who you are and what you're doing if you cross the line in any way. And the way our laws are constructed, I defy you to find someone out there who hasn't violated even one of them. TIPS is very scary, and it's used every day. Beware.
--ckr
Um, yeah. I think they have a pretty low opinion of their viewers' intelligence already. And I'm not sure they're wrong. Have you SEEN Fox News lately? Their definition of a credible expert leaves me with some confusion about the definition of the term.
Actually, yes. I'd checked for the USB/Serial adapter and for the presence in the logfiles of the distro recognising the device as connected. Sadly, this doesn't seem to be the problem, but thank you!
Excellent; thank you. That may have been the key I was looking for; it's always confused me when working on this that doing a tail -20 on/var/log/messages produced an almost immediate connexion to not/dev/ttyUSB0 but both that AND/dev/ttyUSB1, simultaneously. No matter how many times I tried a ln -s for/dev/pilot, I wound up with no connexion because I can't simlink it to both ports at once. Neither FC3 nor SuSE 9.2 seem to understand which of the ttyUSB's to use for the Palm T's major PIM functions. Would be nice if there was a way around this but at present I don't see one. Thank you for sharing your experience!
Thank you, but I'm perfectly cognizant of that.
Had this been as simple as following directions in a manual found through a Google search, I never would have bothered with/. The reality is that despite following numerous such sets of directions, I still couldn't get it to work with the hardware I have on hand. That level of frustration is what set me to asking the/. community for some experiences along the same lines. Thanks to posting this question to the/. userbase, I have several new avenues to explore.
We're a small city in Virginia, and we're implementing an 802.11b/g wireless network across our city, as a municipality. We're exempt from Virginia's (Verizon sponsored) law about that because we are also our own electric department. We are implementing it because we can, and we should, and our citizens deserve it, and Verizon won't do it because we're below their profit margin... not for the state as a whole, but for south central Virginia. We are doing it because it's smart. We are doing it because our schools, fire department, police department, and low-income residents can use it -- cheaply, securely, and quickly. We are doing it because our citizens don't want to wait until 2030 to get decent wireless broadband coverage. We are designing it (with help from Virginia Tech) and we are maintaining it (yes, all 4 of us in IT) and we are going to implement it (with help from the electric department and a cable contractor) and when we get done, we'll have something our tax dollars have paid for that all of our citizens can use cheaply, a wireless street-to-street network for a city of 6000 people. If Verizon could have, why didn't they? Because we are too poor? far from an urban centre? insignificant? unhip? Thanks but no thanks, Verizon; take your bullying elsewhere. We are the folks who deserve better treatment than that.
I'm a nuts-and-bolts guy, I suppose... I'm a network&systems engineer with 20 yrs+ at this; I'm not a coder and don't pretend to be. I design and build complex networks and administer them. For years I've been something between "guru" and "magician"; I've never asked for either. I just like building and maintaining a nice sandbox that folks can work and play in, and I'm good at it. In the last couple of years, though, like the original poster, I've been, in organisational terms, reclassified. These days, I'm somewhere between mechanic and plumber. The payscale has gone in the toilet and so has the organisational recognition. I'm necessary, but not especially sexy these days. If this goes on, I expect to be downgraded to "grease monkey" almost any day, and eventually to "cable guy". So it goes.
I think my intent was to take you to task, albeit gently, for being harsh with the previous poster, and to offer some sympathy to their situation. If you missed the point of that well, given your previous post, I suppose I'm not surprised.
I've been working with Solaris10 for a week now. It's like riding a new Harley after not having touched my Triumph Bonneville for 10 years. I grew up (in my 20's) working in Vax and Sun datacentres, later a Solaris guru working the web... I got real used to Solaris 5, 6, 7... stopped at 8 switched to Linux (RH, SuSE) and wow, what a worldshattering difference. Felt like an 11 year old with his first woodie. Since, I've learnt the ins and outs of Linux server, desktop, struggled mightily with where pkginstall stuck things, the/root, loads of quirks. Now, back to Solaris and wow, I'm home, but someone really redecorated. I cut my teeth in kshell; bash was a real comeuppance, and the new Solaris is like a little of both. Lighten up; I've learnt German, and Dutch, and listening to the two is like very nearly understanding but NOT QUITE. That's kind of what coming back to Solaris 10 is like. It's not quite the Sun I'm used to, but more like it than the Linux I've learnt. If you grew up in Linux, this is going to be kind of like my journey. Give it time, the differences are not bad, they're just different. I'm impressed so far, but not overwhelmed.
The Lycos thing was an interesting sortee, but on a day-to-day basis? I'll keep doing what I do now: learn, build better filters, make it harder for the stuff to get through, defeat the purpose, drive their numbers down a fraction. I'm a systems admin; my users don't see much spam, largely because I've spent months tweaking the filters to stop it, building better code into my SpamAssassin, etc. Does it annoy me? Not really. It keeps me employed, and it makes me think, actually. A wise man once said, rather coldly, that without war there would be no innovation. (I'm paraphrasing). Largely, that's true I think... though he didn't say anyone had to actually be killed. This is a war; spam, phishing, viruses... they've made us all grow up, realise that the 'net isn't a toy any more, and stretch ourselves just a bit to make it safer, faster, etc. Yes, this doesn't help your Mum's computer, but one day it will. I'm not going to say spam is good, but I will say I think it was inevitable, and that our reaction to it can in fact turn out to be beneficial.
I work for a small city; we use a somewhat similar approach. We have 2 mail servers... one in a dmz outside of our internal network, one inside. The outside one is the SMTP relay, linux/sendmail/procmail. The inside one is purely for our AD domain, running exchange 2003, uses the external as an SMTP relay, runs POP3 for all our users. The inside one has no external existence and sits behind an IP that's masked by a transparent firewall running Squid as a Proxy server. The external one advertises as being MX host for two domains, one of which has gotten harvested badly by spammers over the years. We decided a unique approach would be to allow mail through for the 'real' domain but deny mail for the one that's been harvested. The outside mail server acts sort of as bait, allowing spammers to harvest the addresses and mail to them endlessly, but it refuses any mail sent to that domain. We have a standard set of MS spam filters on the inside one for anything that gets through. Until rsf gets more common, this works pretty well.
My experience is not typical, in some ways. YMMV. I'm an engineer, not a programmer.
That said, my degree is from a good college - W&M - but not in CS. I've got a BA in linguistics and a BS in sociology. When I was in school, there were CS degrees, but very few... this is 25 years ago. At that time... no such thing as a server, no Google, no textbooks to speak of on LAN architecture, etc. What I got out of the degree programme was a) an ability to think and reason and b) a contact network that has put me in front of the right people on the right number of occasions that my actual experience could be evaluated. The name of the institution was maybe 5% of the success.
25 years on I'm a senior systems analyst and network engineer, but that's come with lots of bumps in the road. I have a great job, stable with lots of interesting tasks, but that's not (by far) the only job I've ever had. I've done consulting, built networks from the ground up, invented or co-invented numerous layer 2 and layer 3 tools and procedures, had glory days of working with and for Fortune 50 companies and days of working with self-employed real estate brokers that (hopefully) no one will ever hear of. I've made everything from just under minimum wage to over $100 an hour.
My point is that your first job isn't your career, and your college degree isn't you. What you have between your ears and in your heart is going to take whatever material you have to work with -- whatever degree, whatever circumstances -- and either turn it into a good life for you or not. That's partly a matter of luck, but mostly, I think, a matter of who you are.
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Thanks, botha yas. I was trying to be funny ;)
Actually, I thought it was by server kernel on the NT side (with "workstation" versions like NT had) so that Win2K was NT5, Win2KSP4/XP NT5.1, Server2K3/XPSP2 NT5.2, Server2K3R2/Vista NT6, and Server2K8/Win7 as NT7. But hey, how many angels *can* you get to dance on the head of that pin?
Pretty straightforward, actually. Ignore the 95 - 98 - ME taxonomy entirely. Windows NT 4.0 ("NT4" - at MS) Windows 2000 ("NT5") Windows XP ("NT6") Windows Vista ("Oops1") Windows 7 ("NT7") See how nicely that works? --ckr
Do you know what scares me actually? It's that we really have lost the middle ground. Many of us (not all, certainly ... there is still, thank God, a strong centrist element to actual American thinking) have gotten to the point where we truly, really believe things that are mutually incompatible, and in which we can find no room for compromise. The last time we did that (1860) we broke out the guns and started shooting each other.
It's not that, from an objective (if one can find that) point of view that all McCain supporters or Sarah supporters are wrong. It's that they can not find legitimacy in their opponents' viewpoint at all. Same goes for some die-hard Democrats: it's not that they view Republicans as wrong so much as they view the Republican ideology as having no legitimate basis. The next step past this logical fallacy is demonisation or dehumanisation (as one does to opponents in a war). That is, "Those people who think that aren't really Americans; they're not true Patriots or true Christians". Ergo, their opinions lack enough merit to be even considered. Or, "Those people aren't nice, they are only greedy, unlike us". Ergo, all of their opinions are suspect on any topic, and to be considered only with extreme prejudice.
This sort of naked polarisation leads to exactly the kind of hysterical rhetoric and ugly commentary you hear on the streets and see in the media and online. "If their side wins, well, he won't be *my* president". That sort of concept in all its forms is the antithesis of accepted democracy, and perilously close to dissolution. That's what really scares me. --ckr
Actually, those two really are as you describe, and are mostly valid. NCIC is used for exactly what you're describing. TIPS on the other hand isn't. It's national, not state run, and it really is a database of what the PD refers to as "persons of interest". It's about the most pernicious thing I've seen come out since 9/11 in the States; many LE folks don't even like it because it is just opinion and rumour. Any authorised police official (usually this is investigators, detectives, Lt. and above) can enter anything into it about anyone who interests them. It's searchable and there need be no conviction or even arrest involved. It's precisely the sort of database you do not want to get into. Because it is prejudicial, it can't be used directly in court, but it can lead to law enforcement taking a long scrutinising look at who you are and what you're doing if you cross the line in any way. And the way our laws are constructed, I defy you to find someone out there who hasn't violated even one of them. TIPS is very scary, and it's used every day. Beware. --ckr
Um, yeah. I think they have a pretty low opinion of their viewers' intelligence already. And I'm not sure they're wrong. Have you SEEN Fox News lately? Their definition of a credible expert leaves me with some confusion about the definition of the term.
Actually, yes. I'd checked for the USB/Serial adapter and for the presence in the logfiles of the distro recognising the device as connected. Sadly, this doesn't seem to be the problem, but thank you!
Excellent; thank you. That may have been the key I was looking for; it's always confused me when working on this that doing a tail -20 on /var/log/messages produced an almost immediate connexion to not /dev/ttyUSB0 but both that AND /dev/ttyUSB1, simultaneously. No matter how many times I tried a ln -s for /dev/pilot, I wound up with no connexion because I can't simlink it to both ports at once. Neither FC3 nor SuSE 9.2 seem to understand which of the ttyUSB's to use for the Palm T's major PIM functions. Would be nice if there was a way around this but at present I don't see one. Thank you for sharing your experience!
Thank you, but I'm perfectly cognizant of that. Had this been as simple as following directions in a manual found through a Google search, I never would have bothered with /. The reality is that despite following numerous such sets of directions, I still couldn't get it to work with the hardware I have on hand. That level of frustration is what set me to asking the /. community for some experiences along the same lines. Thanks to posting this question to the /. userbase, I have several new avenues to explore.
We're a small city in Virginia, and we're implementing an 802.11b/g wireless network across our city, as a municipality. We're exempt from Virginia's (Verizon sponsored) law about that because we are also our own electric department. We are implementing it because we can, and we should, and our citizens deserve it, and Verizon won't do it because we're below their profit margin ... not for the state as a whole, but for south central Virginia. We are doing it because it's smart. We are doing it because our schools, fire department, police department, and low-income residents can use it -- cheaply, securely, and quickly. We are doing it because our citizens don't want to wait until 2030 to get decent wireless broadband coverage. We are designing it (with help from Virginia Tech) and we are maintaining it (yes, all 4 of us in IT) and we are going to implement it (with help from the electric department and a cable contractor) and when we get done, we'll have something our tax dollars have paid for that all of our citizens can use cheaply, a wireless street-to-street network for a city of 6000 people. If Verizon could have, why didn't they? Because we are too poor? far from an urban centre? insignificant? unhip? Thanks but no thanks, Verizon; take your bullying elsewhere. We are the folks who deserve better treatment than that.
I'm a nuts-and-bolts guy, I suppose ... I'm a network&systems engineer with 20 yrs+ at this; I'm not a coder and don't pretend to be. I design and build complex networks and administer them. For years I've been something between "guru" and "magician"; I've never asked for either. I just like building and maintaining a nice sandbox that folks can work and play in, and I'm good at it. In the last couple of years, though, like the original poster, I've been, in organisational terms, reclassified. These days, I'm somewhere between mechanic and plumber. The payscale has gone in the toilet and so has the organisational recognition. I'm necessary, but not especially sexy these days. If this goes on, I expect to be downgraded to "grease monkey" almost any day, and eventually to "cable guy". So it goes.
I think my intent was to take you to task, albeit gently, for being harsh with the previous poster, and to offer some sympathy to their situation. If you missed the point of that well, given your previous post, I suppose I'm not surprised.
Cheers.
I've been working with Solaris10 for a week now. It's like riding a new Harley after not having touched my Triumph Bonneville for 10 years. I grew up (in my 20's) working in Vax and Sun datacentres, later a Solaris guru working the web ... I got real used to Solaris 5, 6, 7 ... stopped at 8 switched to Linux (RH, SuSE) and wow, what a worldshattering difference. Felt like an 11 year old with his first woodie. Since, I've learnt the ins and outs of Linux server, desktop, struggled mightily with where pkginstall stuck things, the /root, loads of quirks. Now, back to Solaris and wow, I'm home, but someone really redecorated. I cut my teeth in kshell; bash was a real comeuppance, and the new Solaris is like a little of both. Lighten up; I've learnt German, and Dutch, and listening to the two is like very nearly understanding but NOT QUITE. That's kind of what coming back to Solaris 10 is like. It's not quite the Sun I'm used to, but more like it than the Linux I've learnt. If you grew up in Linux, this is going to be kind of like my journey. Give it time, the differences are not bad, they're just different. I'm impressed so far, but not overwhelmed.
The Lycos thing was an interesting sortee, but on a day-to-day basis? I'll keep doing what I do now: learn, build better filters, make it harder for the stuff to get through, defeat the purpose, drive their numbers down a fraction. I'm a systems admin; my users don't see much spam, largely because I've spent months tweaking the filters to stop it, building better code into my SpamAssassin, etc. Does it annoy me? Not really. It keeps me employed, and it makes me think, actually. A wise man once said, rather coldly, that without war there would be no innovation. (I'm paraphrasing). Largely, that's true I think ... though he didn't say anyone had to actually be killed. This is a war; spam, phishing, viruses ... they've made us all grow up, realise that the 'net isn't a toy any more, and stretch ourselves just a bit to make it safer, faster, etc. Yes, this doesn't help your Mum's computer, but one day it will. I'm not going to say spam is good, but I will say I think it was inevitable, and that our reaction to it can in fact turn out to be beneficial.
I work for a small city; we use a somewhat similar approach. We have 2 mail servers ... one in a dmz outside of our internal network, one inside. The outside one is the SMTP relay, linux/sendmail/procmail. The inside one is purely for our AD domain, running exchange 2003, uses the external as an SMTP relay, runs POP3 for all our users. The inside one has no external existence and sits behind an IP that's masked by a transparent firewall running Squid as a Proxy server. The external one advertises as being MX host for two domains, one of which has gotten harvested badly by spammers over the years. We decided a unique approach would be to allow mail through for the 'real' domain but deny mail for the one that's been harvested. The outside mail server acts sort of as bait, allowing spammers to harvest the addresses and mail to them endlessly, but it refuses any mail sent to that domain. We have a standard set of MS spam filters on the inside one for anything that gets through. Until rsf gets more common, this works pretty well.
My experience is not typical, in some ways. YMMV. I'm an engineer, not a programmer.
... this is 25 years ago. At that time ... no such thing as a server, no Google, no textbooks to speak of on LAN architecture, etc. What I got out of the degree programme was a) an ability to think and reason and b) a contact network that has put me in front of the right people on the right number of occasions that my actual experience could be evaluated. The name of the institution was maybe 5% of the success.
That said, my degree is from a good college - W&M - but not in CS. I've got a BA in linguistics and a BS in sociology. When I was in school, there were CS degrees, but very few
25 years on I'm a senior systems analyst and network engineer, but that's come with lots of bumps in the road. I have a great job, stable with lots of interesting tasks, but that's not (by far) the only job I've ever had. I've done consulting, built networks from the ground up, invented or co-invented numerous layer 2 and layer 3 tools and procedures, had glory days of working with and for Fortune 50 companies and days of working with self-employed real estate brokers that (hopefully) no one will ever hear of. I've made everything from just under minimum wage to over $100 an hour.
My point is that your first job isn't your career, and your college degree isn't you. What you have between your ears and in your heart is going to take whatever material you have to work with -- whatever degree, whatever circumstances -- and either turn it into a good life for you or not. That's partly a matter of luck, but mostly, I think, a matter of who you are.