how many people that are willing to take and close BSD are going to end up willing to use and contribute back to GPL?
That's the whole point. We don't want those people. If you're not willing to share and share alike, you just need to go away and bother somebody else because we don't want to even deal with you.
That being said, when I use the term 'we', understand that I'm a realist and I realize that some kinds of software are best released under either an LGPL or BSD-like lioense. Mostly this is when you want to reach the widest audience possible; this is usually the same motivation that BSD authors have.
Yes. The GPL adds restrictions that protect software freedom and innovation. They benefit the author and all licensees, not just the author. Shared Source only benefits the author -- i.e., it exists to keep people locked in to the Windows OS and the Office office suite. The GPL benefits everyone by keeping the source code open and preventing third parties from keeping their innovations secret from everyone else.
OTOH, BSD people typically argue that their license is more "open" because it adds no restricttions and allows licensees to produce closed source products from the open source tool. This is true to a point; however the BSD license also allows third parties to grab the source, add some stuff to create vendor lock-in, and then release the result as closed software. Some of us see this as preventing innovation from flowing back to the community by allowing people to take but not give back.
Except the DARAP grand challenge lasted a day for the desert crossing, all the robots had to do was last that long. Here they have to last months without anyone attending to them.
Very good point. I hadn't thought of that angle. Hopefully none of the entrants will be running Windows. *ducks*
Agreed. Satellite dishes can actually be hidden pretty well by some well-placed landscaping. Today's dishes are small and putting it on a small pole or stand low to the ground and surrounding it with some nice shrubs will hide from everyone who's not in an airplane. This is on purpose -- the dish needs a clear view of the sky, but the shrubs will blcok it from people on the ground.
Get over it and get a life. If you can afford to live on an island in Nantucket sound or whatever you can afford to hire a good landscape architect. Piss and moan all you want, I have no sympathy whatsoever.
Is it just me or does this seem less difficult than the DARPA Grand Nationals. Disclaimer: I know next to nothing about sailing, despite the fact that I live near the ocean.
Hmmm....if the bug was found in 4.2BSD, then how do we know that that bug was not also in original AT&T UNIX that 4.2 BSD is derived from? One could always look in the source released by Caldera (now known as "The SCO Group") some years back.
Exactly how is this offtopic? I made a statement about the prominent and honorable Rep. John Conyers and his possible political motives for proposing the new Net Neutrality bill and dave1791 wanted to know why I thought that way so I explained it.
Completely on-topic. Stupid mods must be on crack again.
racial discrimination may be more because it is so forefront in the minds of the black community?
Close. Try your same logic inversely and you'll get the real picture. Discrimination is mostly a lot less overt, but it's still there and much of it is because whites don't think about race much and so they discriminate without realizing they are discriminating.
They are all middle class living in suburbia and seem to be as color blind as I am.
Has it occurred to you that they might act differently around you because you're white? Amongst my (mostly middle-class) black friends I may as well be black due to a variety of reasons; some of it may be due to the fact that I'm a religious minority and share some of their same attitudes towards oppression.
I'm guessing you're white. (I am too). Unlike me, most white people almost never think about race. For most black people, even (or maybe especially) those in the middle class, race is always on their mind.
Having lived with an African American roommate really changed my perceptions about race. I used to think that race is not a big issue anymore -- not so for the vast majority of those affected by racial discrimination, which still plays a very big role in society today.
Copyright law is in violation of anti-trust. Duh. It says so right in the law that allows it exist, at least in the United States. One of Congress' powers is:
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
So, Congress made copyright law.
Exclusive right == monopoly. The government grants a legal monopoly to the copyright holder. Anti-trust legislation is designed to prevent monopolies. The two laws are in constant conflict with one another as the courts struggle to find a useful balance. That's what the Microsoft antitrust cases in the US and the EU were all about.
John Conyers is an African American and he has represented a district in Michigan that is predominantly African American for nearly 40 years. He's probably thinking more along the lines of race than anything else.
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Parity? Stop bits? Any error correction? Compression?
That just counts the actual data usage and does not account for any overhead.
That being said, when I use the term 'we', understand that I'm a realist and I realize that some kinds of software are best released under either an LGPL or BSD-like lioense. Mostly this is when you want to reach the widest audience possible; this is usually the same motivation that BSD authors have.
Yes. The GPL adds restrictions that protect software freedom and innovation. They benefit the author and all licensees, not just the author. Shared Source only benefits the author -- i.e., it exists to keep people locked in to the Windows OS and the Office office suite. The GPL benefits everyone by keeping the source code open and preventing third parties from keeping their innovations secret from everyone else.
OTOH, BSD people typically argue that their license is more "open" because it adds no restricttions and allows licensees to produce closed source products from the open source tool. This is true to a point; however the BSD license also allows third parties to grab the source, add some stuff to create vendor lock-in, and then release the result as closed software. Some of us see this as preventing innovation from flowing back to the community by allowing people to take but not give back.
No, nothing.
Agreed. Satellite dishes can actually be hidden pretty well by some well-placed landscaping. Today's dishes are small and putting it on a small pole or stand low to the ground and surrounding it with some nice shrubs will hide from everyone who's not in an airplane. This is on purpose -- the dish needs a clear view of the sky, but the shrubs will blcok it from people on the ground.
Get over it and get a life. If you can afford to live on an island in Nantucket sound or whatever you can afford to hire a good landscape architect.
Piss and moan all you want, I have no sympathy whatsoever.
Is it just me or does this seem less difficult than the DARPA Grand Nationals. Disclaimer: I know next to nothing about sailing, despite the fact that I live near the ocean.
Hmmm....if the bug was found in 4.2BSD, then how do we know that that bug was not also in original AT&T UNIX that 4.2 BSD is derived from? One could always look in the source released by Caldera (now known as "The SCO Group") some years back.
Pssst....MS Word 2007 isn't a text editor, it's a word processor. That's what Notepad and Wordpad are for.
TIP: Wordpad can edit text files with UNIX-style newlines without corrupting them!
Exactly how is this offtopic? I made a statement about the prominent and honorable Rep. John Conyers and his possible political motives for proposing the new Net Neutrality bill and dave1791 wanted to know why I thought that way so I explained it.
Completely on-topic. Stupid mods must be on crack again.
I'm guessing you're white. (I am too). Unlike me, most white people almost never think about race. For most black people, even (or maybe especially) those in the middle class, race is always on their mind.
Having lived with an African American roommate really changed my perceptions about race. I used to think that race is not a big issue anymore -- not so for the vast majority of those affected by racial discrimination, which still plays a very big role in society today.
Exclusive right == monopoly. The government grants a legal monopoly to the copyright holder. Anti-trust legislation is designed to prevent monopolies. The two laws are in constant conflict with one another as the courts struggle to find a useful balance. That's what the Microsoft antitrust cases in the US and the EU were all about.
John Conyers is an African American and he has represented a district in Michigan that is predominantly African American for nearly 40 years. He's probably thinking more along the lines of race than anything else.
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Invent cure for deep vein thrombosis.
Anyone who doesn't see the humor and irony in that isn't look very hard.