Until Jeff Lewis starts putting my kids through college he shouldn't have the audacity to criticize the act of selling software
So Eric Raymond - SO SHOVE IT.
Larry Wall made money off his Perl books and sent his kids through college as a result of the widespread use of his work.
"That all changed in the late 70's when a young programmer actually had the audacity to sell his BASIC interpreter to the other programmers rather than just giving it and the source code for it away."
The audacity?? Let me get this straight, it is bad or wrong to try to make a business out something?? When I give my software away to people will those people, in return, provide a roof over my head or some food on my plate??
Why should I pay for something when I can make my own?
That's highway robbery.
Remember people were writing interpreters already. BASIC wasn't a new Microsoft invention. That was pure elitism not capitalism.
And then there's Gates whining about protecting Typing Tutor because it was a huge monetary investment? Had he opened it, people would have more experience to create compilers and it would cost him a fraction of the original cost to develop the next version.
Besides, how the hell can a Typing Tutor cost so much when it copies the same old scheme of speed tests, game challenges, and repetitive exercises that every other teaching package uses?
But then again what can you expect from the last company to see value in the Internet?
The tide is turning against those who are curious because they're curious. Everything is suspect. Anything not dealing in the superficial lust for information as opposed to a search for knowledge is criticized. I keep hearing: Linux is obsolete, PCs are dead, Command liners are hard line anachronistic fools.
Sorry but this professor is a fool. Second in line to the "Computers are tools not toys" nazi. (Speaking of him, where is Tom Christiansen?).
Why the fuck does this guy care about my public, private, and personal use of my property?
Alright it may not be quite that petty directly, but his stuff is still disturbing. Next he'll show us how to build skyscrapers without scaffolding or how to use a car without driving or knowing where we're going. Is it a crime to want to know?
What's he so afraid of? Having to create something?
People have too many fucking barriers, excuses, and defenses.
Napster competes against indies only so far as indies don't use napster. As someone once said,"Where's the injustice if a fool doesn't take advantage?"
The more indies create services that work with napster the more indies will show up on Napster.
The most important thing to note is: You cannot make more money than exists in your market. If there's 200 buyers with 150 for mainstream and 50 for weird rock, the mainstream musicians will reach 100% of the 150, they'll never get the other 50. If weird rockers want to take avantage of Napster they will reach 100% of the 50.
Each gets the intended market. Where's the injustice?
But I think you're right - the interia of "the standard way" in GUIs is likely to greatly slow the spread of any new format.
As long as computers are tools instead of vehicles, people will detest change. If you start by letting people goof off and letting the take over the machine, then you might get some enthusiasm.
Microsoft Word is not computer science. Teaching logic, structure, and time management is much more important.
computers would work well in that arena.
Is transmeta trying to be a mild mannered Apple?
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C'mon fools show companies how to build motherboards for the chip. Build a few yourselves.
Say what you want about the new trendy palmtop market, it can't hold itself up unless it becomes telephone like consistent in design. You know, disposable. People will buy a phone for a new home just for kicks.
The customizable market has been able to to carry itself on its many parts.
Multiple keys are no different than having one longer key. That shit shouldn't even get a patent. It's got one-click written all over it.
Plus longer keys mean BXA licences are required. Now what? Do I have to kiss Reno's ass to produce a record and protect it?
But I digress. How much you wanna bet no artist will be able afford this technology, only record companies?
Sorry, but all this alarmism is driving me toward a more creative industry where people use music to create more music. You and your fucking lawyers have fun. I'm interested in something else
I don't care about the RIAA, MPAA, etc. I don't like the idea that fair use is not being considered. Fair use is above any group and individual. But then I'm biased. Everything I work on will be preleased in XM or IT or MOD or some other tracker format. Then MP3s on miniCDs.
Maybe out on vynil next. And then for backup purposes on CD.
If I have stereos all through my house and back yard, I'd like to access my music from anywhere using a wireless palmtop running a Unix.
All this protecting is going to annoy anyone who actually does something with music and that includes a lot of music buyers not just signed bands. This whole listen and shut up attitude bugs me.
I especially hate the bullshit about USE licensing. That's breaking up a product into multiple pieces. Frankly I expect to pay less if I'm not allowed full use.
Troll. Anyone who has ever known an Ami user knows that the Amiga design needs only a 40Mhz processor to kill an Athlon 500 (the video doesn't waste time calculating pixel locations to memory addresses, it just sets a delay on the video gun.) It does in 2 passes what takes an Athlon 38 passes. Amiga CDTV predated WebTV. Came out same year as HTML, had IR ports + modem.
I like my Athlon and I bought an Athlon because I've never used an Amiga but I'll be running an Amiga for my web browsing and other things. Amiga's not yet much of a compiling machine.
And I like the fact you didn't read the article. True troll style.
If it had not been released it would have taken longer. Having seen the attitude of users, I can almost guarantee it. Frankly, I'd been waiting for the development process to be opened up on this this thing. It's been cooped up too long.
What's up with this "If I can't use it or fix it nobody but the Man should get it" attitude?
I'll even go as far as saying that they probably released it to piss people off enough that they would get involved in fixing things. People automatically go into wait mode if you say y.9.x but they growl and finally get involved if you say y+1.0.
Granted, I don't support reverse-engineering and stealing proprietary routines (and don't bother to correct me, as I don't know/care about the details)...
Strike 1. Proprietary routines were not stolen. Proprietary hardware was not stolen. Pheonix clean roomed an IBM compatible BIOS. That's why PCs are cheap and Macs are expensive. Or should we all be driving Fords in Black only?
Honestly... do you know anyone who decided to buy the emulator over the "real" unit? Maybe you do, but I, for one, don't.
I bought one. Thank you.
If you're going to spend $30-$50 on an emulator, you might as well go spend $89 at your local Target/Wal-mart and get the darn unit - no compatibility issues, etc... Most of the folks who have the emulator already have the PSX, and they still buy all the games.
You'd pay 90 for something you get for 30. Well folks, the new math is in.
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Until Jeff Lewis starts putting my kids through college he shouldn't have the audacity to criticize the act of selling software
So Eric Raymond - SO SHOVE IT.
Larry Wall made money off his Perl books and sent his kids through college as a result of the widespread use of his work.
"That all changed in the late 70's when a young programmer actually had the audacity to sell his BASIC interpreter to the other programmers rather than just giving it and the source code for it away."
The audacity?? Let me get this straight, it is bad or wrong to try to make a business out something?? When I give my software away to people will those people, in return, provide a roof over my head or some food on my plate??
Why should I pay for something when I can make my own?
That's highway robbery.
Remember people were writing interpreters already. BASIC wasn't a new Microsoft invention. That was pure elitism not capitalism.
And then there's Gates whining about protecting Typing Tutor because it was a huge monetary investment? Had he opened it, people would have more experience to create compilers and it would cost him a fraction of the original cost to develop the next version.
Besides, how the hell can a Typing Tutor cost so much when it copies the same old scheme of speed tests, game challenges, and repetitive exercises that every other teaching package uses?
But then again what can you expect from the last company to see value in the Internet?
Judge - likes to put people in prison
Police - likes to put people in prison
You are a moron.
The tide is turning against those who are curious because they're curious. Everything is suspect. Anything not dealing in the superficial lust for information as opposed to a search for knowledge is criticized. I keep hearing: Linux is obsolete, PCs are dead, Command liners are hard line anachronistic fools.
Sorry but this professor is a fool. Second in line to the "Computers are tools not toys" nazi. (Speaking of him, where is Tom Christiansen?).
Why the fuck does this guy care about my public, private, and personal use of my property?
Alright it may not be quite that petty directly, but his stuff is still disturbing. Next he'll show us how to build skyscrapers without scaffolding or how to use a car without driving or knowing where we're going. Is it a crime to want to know?
What's he so afraid of? Having to create something?
People have too many fucking barriers, excuses, and defenses.
RTFM for jesus!
Uh no: Judge - judicial decision maker. Police - executive enforcement.
There's a reason for that. Figure it out.
The problem is how to teach people to use their own minds.
Almost but no cigar. The problem is how to reach people who use their own minds.
Let fools be fools. Take every opportunity to give them a taste of their own medicine.
Napster competes against indies only so far as indies don't use napster. As someone once said,"Where's the injustice if a fool doesn't take advantage?"
The more indies create services that work with napster the more indies will show up on Napster.
The most important thing to note is: You cannot make more money than exists in your market. If there's 200 buyers with 150 for mainstream and 50 for weird rock, the mainstream musicians will reach 100% of the 150, they'll never get the other 50. If weird rockers want to take avantage of Napster they will reach 100% of the 50.
Each gets the intended market. Where's the injustice?
But I think you're right - the interia of "the standard way" in GUIs is likely to greatly slow the spread of any new format.
As long as computers are tools instead of vehicles, people will detest change. If you start by letting people goof off and letting the take over the machine, then you might get some enthusiasm.
Errors are ok. Bugs are bad.
Skins are like window curtains you don't have to use them.
That article where that moron claimed skins were desinged for interfacing is pure bull.
C'mon the Info age ended years ago. Create something.
Sure, they're pretty awful at teaching critical thinking,
Programming teaches you a lot about organization.
Get Microsoft Word and Corel Wordperfect out of the classrooms. Leave them for the computer labs.
Get GCC into the classes.
Microsoft Word is not computer science. Teaching logic, structure, and time management is much more important.
computers would work well in that arena.
C'mon fools show companies how to build motherboards for the chip. Build a few yourselves.
Say what you want about the new trendy palmtop market, it can't hold itself up unless it becomes telephone like consistent in design. You know, disposable. People will buy a phone for a new home just for kicks.
The customizable market has been able to to carry itself on its many parts.
Problem: I have still paid too much.
Problem2: If this thing prevents me from playing my music on MY stereo system designed by ME, I'm paying way too much.
Problem3: If only record companies can get their hands on this thing, frag it.
I can come up with patents too you know.
Okay where did this start? Reply here:
bluemalamute
who'dathunk it.
Now how much you wanna bet a CNNbot will say Cracking Satelites for Science perverting the whole Hacker/Cracker debate beyond the point of ridicule?
Ah well it's nice to see a story that doesn't make me want to say 9 Nine Hail Marys.
to the artist.
/.! To /.! The corpses are coming!
Antitrust! Antitrust! Antitrust!
To
I'm not anticorporate and happen to hate whiners, but only a fool couldn't see that a lot of the old guard are decaying and trying to hide it.
It's not as if N-Sync is going to be around this time next year to bitch about their album
being pirated.
Why not RIAA? What a fucking farce this industry is.
it's your own fault, says Adobe.
Multiple keys are no different than having one longer key. That shit shouldn't even get a patent. It's got one-click written all over it.
Plus longer keys mean BXA licences are required. Now what? Do I have to kiss Reno's ass to produce a record and protect it?
But I digress. How much you wanna bet no artist will be able afford this technology, only record companies?
Sorry, but all this alarmism is driving me toward a more creative industry where people use music to create more music. You and your fucking lawyers have fun. I'm interested in something else
It's called general purpose machine revolution. Get used to it.
Up with communicating artists, down with self-involved eggheads indepenedent or not.
I don't care about the RIAA, MPAA, etc. I don't like the idea that fair use is not being considered. Fair use is above any group and individual. But then I'm biased. Everything I work on will be preleased in XM or IT or MOD or some other tracker format. Then MP3s on miniCDs.
Maybe out on vynil next. And then for backup purposes on CD.
If I have stereos all through my house and back yard, I'd like to access my music from anywhere using a wireless palmtop running a Unix.
All this protecting is going to annoy anyone who actually does something with music and that includes a lot of music buyers not just signed bands. This whole listen and shut up attitude bugs me.
I especially hate the bullshit about USE licensing. That's breaking up a product into multiple pieces. Frankly I expect to pay less if I'm not allowed full use.
Troll. Anyone who has ever known an Ami user knows that the Amiga design needs only a 40Mhz processor to kill an Athlon 500 (the video doesn't waste time calculating pixel locations to memory addresses, it just sets a delay on the video gun.) It does in 2 passes what takes an Athlon 38 passes. Amiga CDTV predated WebTV. Came out same year as HTML, had IR ports + modem.
I like my Athlon and I bought an Athlon because I've never used an Amiga but I'll be running an Amiga for my web browsing and other things. Amiga's not yet much of a compiling machine.
And I like the fact you didn't read the article. True troll style.
If it had not been released it would have taken longer. Having seen the attitude of users, I can almost guarantee it. Frankly, I'd been waiting for the development process to be opened up on this this thing. It's been cooped up too long.
What's up with this "If I can't use it or fix it nobody but the Man should get it" attitude?
I'll even go as far as saying that they probably released it to piss people off enough that they would get involved in fixing things. People automatically go into wait mode if you say y.9.x but they growl and finally get involved if you say y+1.0.
Ask SuSE too. Ask Slashdot.
Quickies are a steaming pile of non-stories that are worth your time.
Fucking hypocrite.
Granted, I don't support reverse-engineering and stealing proprietary routines (and don't bother to correct me, as I don't know/care about the details)...
Strike 1. Proprietary routines were not stolen. Proprietary hardware was not stolen. Pheonix clean roomed an IBM compatible BIOS. That's why PCs are cheap and Macs are expensive. Or should we all be driving Fords in Black only?
Honestly... do you know anyone who decided to buy the emulator over the "real" unit? Maybe you do, but I, for one, don't.
I bought one. Thank you.
If you're going to spend $30-$50 on an emulator, you might as well go spend $89 at your local Target/Wal-mart and get the darn unit - no compatibility issues, etc... Most of the folks
who have the emulator already have the PSX, and they still buy all the games.
You'd pay 90 for something you get for 30. Well folks, the new math is in.