Anyon else see this as a great opportunity to help us avoid ads even easier?
Currently the ad skip technology revolves around detecting black frames and pauses in transmissions to skip ads - but once broadcasters start using a flag in the transmission that says "ads are on NOW" then some enterprising individuals will have patches and hacks for open source HTPC/Set top boxes that will immediately detect the flag and skip the ads. Every open source HTPC will easily incorporate the code, and probably hacks will pop up over night for commercial PVRs.
FIRST language should be something basic that takes input and output in a top down order via a console.
You don't want to waste your time with complex syntax and cryptic keyword concerns until you understand the basics of programming.
Start with an interpreted language like Perl that is forgivable (with effort in consistently readable formatting, actually assume that for every language from the start). This will give you a taste of the power a few lines of code can do for you, using almost plain english (obviously Perl can be poorly written and obfuscated, but you do it the long with with nice naming conventions and formatting).
Then learn some basic ANSI C and/or Pascal (maybe highly structured Java basics at a stretch which is what they're teaching at first year uni here). This will teach you code structure and algorithms, the grounding you need for OO and will teach you to be comfortable with some advanced syntax before GUI code starts being thrown into your code.
Then it's time for your choice of Java, VB.Net or C# for more advanced GUI apps and to learn OO.
I personally went from shell scripts and some ANSI C hacking to Uni where I did Pascal and ANSI C in the first year, while learning Perl at work.
Recently I played with some Java tutorials and got a basic grasp, this year I'm taking a 1-semester course on C#, this and the VB course requires basic programming concept knowledge before applying, which seems about right.
Unfortunately I don't have experience with VB, but while learning C# all the code shows the VB.net code snippets that do the same thing. It's not clear what the code does but it could be from never learning VB basics.
All I can say now is that I'm having fun learning C# and it was extremely easy to get into since I understand the basics from ANSI C/Pascal/Perl. This is my first GUI exposure and I'm looking forward to learning more OO through C#.
Can't the questions be sent to the Iraqi's for comment rather than an American reporter? I mean it was nice and all if he helped to set them up, but we hear enough Americans talking for other people.
Not really a bummer, it's actually not that bad. Linux is still my primary preference, but SCO OpenServer at least is a good platform to ship out to clueless people that you don't want messing with it (exactly because of its proprietary nature).
If they let me choose Linux, I'd go with debian, no desktop/X, and somehow hide apt/dpkg because they can't be trusted with such an easy to upgrade/install system;-)
Sorry that was a bit harsh... see my other posts for a more rational thought, I was just getting more steamed up at the way people seem to be treating us poor users (non-admin / non-decision makers) around here without knowing how it works in the real world.
If people who made the decision to use SCO in the first place see that Open Source is viable and won't give up on them due to a political view then they'll be much happier to use other open sourced platforms.
You missed what I said - I have no chance to affect the decision of my employers as to the choice of operating system. Except for the fact that I might demonstrate to them the power of some Open Source products, which might lead to them being better aware of it.
I might come and go, they will just get someone who will work with more closed source software instead of me if it comes to that.
Unless you have some ancient software package that requires it
That's the problem... that and the fact that you only pay for the main license once, so anyone who bought it before they turned nasty is now being targetted as if they are SCO themselves, so the target of such a boycott is seriously in error.
Thing is, many of SCO licenses are one-off's. Moving to another platform won't instantly damage SCO. There's no survey which tells them that you are no longer using their product.
It's a bit unfair to force people off a platform in the short term as if it will harm the vendor. In SCO's case it will do nothing. In the real world you need time to change, without terrorists sabotaging what might have been good products to force you.
Good work. However, I am an unfortunately SCO user with no potential to change the platform many of my clients use. So I will remain disappointed that you choose to act with hostility as SCO has in this instance.
I think that the original poster probably works for a pimping company and not for himself, therefore the reputation of his work doesn't reflect on himself so much as the pimping company, so he figures he can get away with disrespecting the company he's subcontracted to. If i'm wrong, may there be mercy on all of us consultants when employers read this disgusting thread.
Working as a government consultant for the past 3 years has shown me the importance of having all decisions in writing. No matter how small it seems, e-mailing parties responsible for a confirmation to go ahead with objections noted is a must for consultants, then you can't be blamed for other incompetent peoples faults.
So yeah as div_2n says, get everything in writing, even if it's just an e-mail, it will be documentary evidence down the track if you find yourself as the scapegoat for bad decisions.
Perhaps it wasn't so much that you had to reboot but that it didn't know what to do to fully update the system to changes you make in scoadmin (network manager for example). In many cases you could continue without rebooting but just stopping and starting networking and services.
But yes, I agree, it sucks, and there's many more things wrong with it than that.
However it has been very stable for the dozens of servers I admin, and only the same few bugs pop up usually, and they can be permanently worked around.
Another big problem seems to be that hardware vendors aren't supporting SCO systems anymore, in fact I might note that some have been given a big "SCO Certified" tick to hardware that has no drivers (particularly for OpenServer).
I suggest looking immediately for an alternative or upgrade paths in case your current hardware dies.
Ummmm have you bothered to look? It has extremely poor security, I maintain dozens of SCO OpenServer boxes and am very unhappy with it.
Off the top of my head, search for scosessionx hack. There were around 50 exploits all released around the same time for 5.0.5 and many unfixed before 5.0.6.
Yeah what high standards from SCO? Their superior security? Their fantastic hardware support? Their excellent scoadmin software? Their patches which fix problems introduced by previous patches which have nothing to do with the problem they created?
I have to admin around 80 of the beasts on hardware ranging from PC style hardware to beastly servers, SCO has a serious lack of quality when compared to a serious Linux distribution like release versions of Debian. The only thing that is sort of nice is scoadmin, but only for beginners, once you want to do anything slightly better than add a user you need to know your low level Unix. It has some major problems with keeping system integrity anyway, so I'd advise against even newbies using it.
I tend to agree with you on this. This is what Linux is all about, if you don't like something then in most instances you are completely free to change or improve it foryourself and contribute the changes back into the project.
We've seen enough of these sorts of articles, what we need now is do-ers, not unnecessary hint-dropping which has been covered time and time again, when it's time it will be done, or Charles Connelly can help productively instead of inciting the same old boring known arguments.
The flame-mail he has received was definitely from a minority who don't know what they're talking about and probably don't contribute productively themselves, but this is where Charles is getting his ideas from as if they're representative of the Linux community. They're not and the real members of the productive community don't care and are eagerly awaiting more real help.
The story was about university graduates getting foreign jobs but are still working from Australia via the Internet, not a word was said about OpenSource, and Linux was only implied by the fact they named his employer (linuxcare).
If we didn't know who Tridgell was, you could assume just as easily that he was working on commercial Windows software (due to the 98 box domain logon quote).
The story was about university graduates getting foreign jobs but are still working from Australia via the Internet, not a word was said about OpenSource, and Linux was only implied by the fact they named his employer (linuxcare).
If we didn't know who Tridgell was, you could assume just as easily that he was working on commercial Windows software (due to the 98 box domain logon quote).
In the rare event that there are no Debian packages for the program you want to install, you can use the "alien" program to install Slackware or Red Hat packages.
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Anyon else see this as a great opportunity to help us avoid ads even easier?
Currently the ad skip technology revolves around detecting black frames and pauses in transmissions to skip ads - but once broadcasters start using a flag in the transmission that says "ads are on NOW" then some enterprising individuals will have patches and hacks for open source HTPC/Set top boxes that will immediately detect the flag and skip the ads. Every open source HTPC will easily incorporate the code, and probably hacks will pop up over night for commercial PVRs.
FIRST language should be something basic that takes input and output in a top down order via a console.
You don't want to waste your time with complex syntax and cryptic keyword concerns until you understand the basics of programming.
Start with an interpreted language like Perl that is forgivable (with effort in consistently readable formatting, actually assume that for every language from the start). This will give you a taste of the power a few lines of code can do for you, using almost plain english (obviously Perl can be poorly written and obfuscated, but you do it the long with with nice naming conventions and formatting).
Then learn some basic ANSI C and/or Pascal (maybe highly structured Java basics at a stretch which is what they're teaching at first year uni here). This will teach you code structure and algorithms, the grounding you need for OO and will teach you to be comfortable with some advanced syntax before GUI code starts being thrown into your code.
Then it's time for your choice of Java, VB.Net or C# for more advanced GUI apps and to learn OO.
I personally went from shell scripts and some ANSI C hacking to Uni where I did Pascal and ANSI C in the first year, while learning Perl at work.
Recently I played with some Java tutorials and got a basic grasp, this year I'm taking a 1-semester course on C#, this and the VB course requires basic programming concept knowledge before applying, which seems about right.
Unfortunately I don't have experience with VB, but while learning C# all the code shows the VB.net code snippets that do the same thing. It's not clear what the code does but it could be from never learning VB basics.
All I can say now is that I'm having fun learning C# and it was extremely easy to get into since I understand the basics from ANSI C/Pascal/Perl. This is my first GUI exposure and I'm looking forward to learning more OO through C#.
Wouldn't hte moral high road for nmap to take to be to continue offering it including to SCO platforms? SCO are playing enough games for everyone.
Can't the questions be sent to the Iraqi's for comment rather than an American reporter? I mean it was nice and all if he helped to set them up, but we hear enough Americans talking for other people.
If you want to be pedantic.
Please use correct grammar, puncutation and capitalization, Mr Score:0.
What happened?? :)
Not really a bummer, it's actually not that bad. Linux is still my primary preference, but SCO OpenServer at least is a good platform to ship out to clueless people that you don't want messing with it (exactly because of its proprietary nature).
;-)
If they let me choose Linux, I'd go with debian, no desktop/X, and somehow hide apt/dpkg because they can't be trusted with such an easy to upgrade/install system
Sorry that was a bit harsh... see my other posts for a more rational thought, I was just getting more steamed up at the way people seem to be treating us poor users (non-admin / non-decision makers) around here without knowing how it works in the real world.
If people who made the decision to use SCO in the first place see that Open Source is viable and won't give up on them due to a political view then they'll be much happier to use other open sourced platforms.
You missed what I said - I have no chance to affect the decision of my employers as to the choice of operating system. Except for the fact that I might demonstrate to them the power of some Open Source products, which might lead to them being better aware of it.
I might come and go, they will just get someone who will work with more closed source software instead of me if it comes to that.
So my statement still stands.
That's the problem... that and the fact that you only pay for the main license once, so anyone who bought it before they turned nasty is now being targetted as if they are SCO themselves, so the target of such a boycott is seriously in error.
Thing is, many of SCO licenses are one-off's. Moving to another platform won't instantly damage SCO. There's no survey which tells them that you are no longer using their product.
It's a bit unfair to force people off a platform in the short term as if it will harm the vendor. In SCO's case it will do nothing. In the real world you need time to change, without terrorists sabotaging what might have been good products to force you.
Fyodor -
Good work. However, I am an unfortunately SCO user with no potential to change the platform many of my clients use. So I will remain disappointed that you choose to act with hostility as SCO has in this instance.
Nice cause, unfortunately with the wrong effect.
Sounds like a dodgy NIC or driver.
I admin dozens of these boxes, and despite its other flaws, this isn't a typical one.
I think that the original poster probably works for a pimping company and not for himself, therefore the reputation of his work doesn't reflect on himself so much as the pimping company, so he figures he can get away with disrespecting the company he's subcontracted to. If i'm wrong, may there be mercy on all of us consultants when employers read this disgusting thread.
Working as a government consultant for the past 3 years has shown me the importance of having all decisions in writing. No matter how small it seems, e-mailing parties responsible for a confirmation to go ahead with objections noted is a must for consultants, then you can't be blamed for other incompetent peoples faults.
So yeah as div_2n says, get everything in writing, even if it's just an e-mail, it will be documentary evidence down the track if you find yourself as the scapegoat for bad decisions.
It's a very easy fundamental principal, is there any need to even doubt it's real?
Perhaps it wasn't so much that you had to reboot but that it didn't know what to do to fully update the system to changes you make in scoadmin (network manager for example). In many cases you could continue without rebooting but just stopping and starting networking and services.
But yes, I agree, it sucks, and there's many more things wrong with it than that.
However it has been very stable for the dozens of servers I admin, and only the same few bugs pop up usually, and they can be permanently worked around.
Another big problem seems to be that hardware vendors aren't supporting SCO systems anymore, in fact I might note that some have been given a big "SCO Certified" tick to hardware that has no drivers (particularly for OpenServer).
I suggest looking immediately for an alternative or upgrade paths in case your current hardware dies.
Ummmm have you bothered to look? It has extremely poor security, I maintain dozens of SCO OpenServer boxes and am very unhappy with it.
Off the top of my head, search for scosessionx hack. There were around 50 exploits all released around the same time for 5.0.5 and many unfixed before 5.0.6.
Not according to the original question. Which was complaining about the lack of distribution support.
I'd like to sell each song for 2 cents, they're stealing half my profits! :)
Yeah what high standards from SCO? Their superior security? Their fantastic hardware support? Their excellent scoadmin software? Their patches which fix problems introduced by previous patches which have nothing to do with the problem they created?
I have to admin around 80 of the beasts on hardware ranging from PC style hardware to beastly servers, SCO has a serious lack of quality when compared to a serious Linux distribution like release versions of Debian. The only thing that is sort of nice is scoadmin, but only for beginners, once you want to do anything slightly better than add a user you need to know your low level Unix. It has some major problems with keeping system integrity anyway, so I'd advise against even newbies using it.
I tend to agree with you on this. This is what Linux is all about, if you don't like something then in most instances you are completely free to change or improve it foryourself and contribute the changes back into the project.
We've seen enough of these sorts of articles, what we need now is do-ers, not unnecessary hint-dropping which has been covered time and time again, when it's time it will be done, or Charles Connelly can help productively instead of inciting the same old boring known arguments.
The flame-mail he has received was definitely from a minority who don't know what they're talking about and probably don't contribute productively themselves, but this is where Charles is getting his ideas from as if they're representative of the Linux community. They're not and the real members of the productive community don't care and are eagerly awaiting more real help.
Did you actually read the transcript? :)
The story was about university graduates getting foreign jobs but are still working from Australia via the Internet, not a word was said about OpenSource, and Linux was only implied by the fact they named his employer (linuxcare).
If we didn't know who Tridgell was, you could assume just as easily that he was working on commercial Windows software (due to the 98 box domain logon quote).
Did you actually read the transcript? :)
The story was about university graduates getting foreign jobs but are still working from Australia via the Internet, not a word was said about OpenSource, and Linux was only implied by the fact they named his employer (linuxcare).
If we didn't know who Tridgell was, you could assume just as easily that he was working on commercial Windows software (due to the 98 box domain logon quote).
In the rare event that there are no Debian packages for the program you want to install, you can use the "alien" program to install Slackware or Red Hat packages.