Oops. That's sposed to read office complex for you legal sticklers (can't run a business from most apt complex), and just to make it clear, he is using APC back-ups & smart-ups for the machines. It's only the rack itself that isn't grounded.
A friend of mine ran into the same problem recently. His solution was a heavy duty stainless steel number. It's 6' tall, about 5' long, and 3' deep. Or there abouts. It has four shelves. It's not a solid shelving unit, it's one of those ones with criss crossing bars. I've seen them used before, but I can't remember where he got it, so I can't point anyone to it. But it only cost a couple hundred. He's got four servers, a kvm, monitor, laser printer, deskjet, and tons of files on the thing. It's a great space saver. Anyway, the problem is it isn't grounded. He's a one man show working out of an apartment complex, so he can't really play with the electrical wiring. I don't think the owners would go for that. Is there an easy & safe way that it can be grounded? With all that stuff on there, it gives off a pretty good shock pretty often. He already lost one P90 mobo because of it, too. I'm sure a lot of people have come across this problem while using alternative racks.
I'm just curious what kind of a person's life revolves around getting the ever important next release of/. source. The only reason I can think of that it is imperative that this person gets the code immediately is if s/he operates a mirror/. site, which if anybody ever visited it & made it known to the real/., would get it ko'd pretty quick. I'm also sure that CmdrTaco is plenty smart enough to write ALL his own code & not borrow from anyone not employed on the team. Which would mean that they're not violating anything. Besides, he didn't make millions from us. THEY made millions WITH us. We didn't give them anything personally, besides a dozen or so clicks per person per day. I could keep going for a while, but I think staring at my monitor and waiting for my eyes to start noticing the refresh rate is more interesting than replying to your post.
Moderators seem to have misplaced their brains recently. Either that, or there's a lot of moderators who systematically skip (through whatever means) anonymous coward postings. This kind person posted a link to the actual auction within five minutes of the article being posted on/. cuz Hemos forgot it. No big deal, but the very next post is rated +5 for giving the exact same link. Granted they were less than a minute apart, but this one IS first. Yeah, this is offtopic and possibly redundant, but the message I'm referring to is undeniably non redundant. Please, moderators, check and make sure that the description you're selecting actually fits before you submit it.
I don't care what the rest of you trolls think, I think it's pretty kewl. I don't know about any software that you can download to serve your own collection, but it does play all the music that artists have allowed mp3.com to distribute. So if you're into no-name & a couple known bands, this could be the thing for you.
For some unknown reason, I'm kinda interested in seeing what it looks like, and the site is already gone. Too bad. If anyone grabbed a copy of the picture and can post it somewhere, please do.
My school's had a couple run-ins with various agencies. One guy actually had the FBI looking at him last year. But, the admins aren't freaking out over this. They peruse the network, and see if anyone has any mp3's shared, yeah. But they don't go into any password protected folders. We just have one communal password that gets you into almost anybody's shared directories, and the admins leave us alone.
Also, at least in my experience, the admins do not want to shut down ports, and kick people off the network. They would much rather ask a student who knows the network (such as myself) to leak the word that they are about to start searching for things, and to make sure that everything is passworded. There still has been some locking down of ports & such, but as far as I know, nobody has been kicked off the network since that guy last year.
It wouldn't be that hard to add up the time & rig it for slowness. Put the maximum amount of slowest speed ram possible, max out your pci slots with scsi cards & max out the scsi devices with really slow drives (they spin up one by one to minimize power strain), mess up your drivers and the network configuration cuz it takes extra time to error out, and there ya go. 49 minutes is quite unbelievable tho, unless it's a 486 with all the stuff I just talked about.
You all should do just a mite bit of research before you go off on Comdex for requiring a minimum age. I've had tickets to go for the past few years (I'm 21 now), and I actually asked & found out why, instead of just bitching about it. It has to do with insurance. They have to pay a ton more in insurance costs if they're going to have kids out on the floor. Kids do have a habit of getting into trouble. You can still go at almost any age, I've never heard of anyone being turned away at the door, it's just a semi-under-the-table entrance. You sign up ahead of time, get your ticket mailed to you, and when you get there you have no problems at all. You might have to have an ID card to get your specialty tickets & stuff, I don't remember.
But in reality, there is nothing stopping this CTO from going to Comdex. This whole story & the outrage is all based on a load of crap.
I can't find any mention of the Winamp plugin that it supposedly uses on their site. What type of plugin is this? Does it limit support specifically to Mp3's, or will it work with any audio format that Winamp supports? I saw the RealJukebox mentioned, along with their own BOOM software, but I don't know much about RealJukebox. Heard of it, never seen it. Does it require Winamp, is that where this plugin stuff is coming from?
$84 is a bargain for almost any computer hardware, regardless of what it does. I almost ordered one on the spur of the moment, but I decided that an extra long cable works just fine for me.
Ahhhh. That would explain it. Didn't mean to knock such a famous guy, I just honestly didn't know who he was, and the paper didn't make him seem that important (by itself). Father of Modern Computing I have heard of, but I forgot the name as soon as I learned it. Didn't pay much attention in the 'introductory' computer classes when I actually went to them, so I couldn't tell ya if we were actually taught about him, or just told that he was the 'Father'.
Never heard of him in my acs classes. Then again, I don't take any in depth programming classes, so I never would have been exposed to encryption methodology.
What kind of compensation are we talking about here? I'm pretty sure the limit for small claims court in Illinois is $5000, but each state has its own limits set by law. I don't think the letter stated that they got the maximum award allowable by law, either. Probably, unless they got a very tech-savvy judge, they received quite a bit less than the maximum, whatever it may be in California. Still a definite win, but it may or may not actually end up costing the spammers $$ (they make $$ off the spam they send out, and chances are they made more than they were fined). Doesn't seem quite fair, does it?
So, let me get this straight. Yahoo bought, merged, (whatever) with Geocities. Yahoo now owns all rights to anything on the Geocities servers. So... If we put up material that is deemed inappropriate, and somebody gets mad, the material is actually Yahoo's, not ours. So if we make sufficiently poor taste websites that result in a lawsuit, we, the user, can never be brought to court, because it is not ours. Yahoo would be the only defendant in a lawsuit, and all punitive damages would be their's to pay. Right?:)
What's right for you is not right for some. The two of them have stuck this out far longer than most people would (years), considering the lack of funds & massive time commitment. How often do you click on the banner ads? If you wanted them to be able to keep it forever, you should have sent them $$. Congratulations on the major achievement Cmdr Taco & Hemos, and I hope/. will now get the recognition and attention it justly deserves. That and all the $$ you need to buy as many toys as your house can possibly hold:)
Here's to the future of the new & improved SlashDot!!!!
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Info from the/.'d site:
Operating temperature range, digital music mode
5 deg. C to 55 deg. C Operating temperature range, radio mode only -20 deg. C to 60 deg. C
Humidity, operating 10% to 90% RH, non-condensing Humidity,
non-operating 5% to 95% RH, non-condensing Shock, operating 150G Shock,
non-operating 400G
The interesting part to me is the temparature range, and the shock. 5 degrees celsius is 41 degrees fahrenheit for those of us that live in the US. That means that for at least four months of the year, we can only listen to the radio, unless you live in florida or somewhere warm. That's kinda crappy. How bout a tiny onboard heater for that thing?
Also, I have no clue about the shock absorption. What does your everyday pothole do? How about your typical train tracks?
Anyone have any clue what import and taxation fees would be included? The site doesn't say. I really want one of these, but I'm gonna wait another year, and see if some better stuff comes along (instead of just the first ones), and hopefully prices will become more reasonable, too.
Anonymous coward? Okay. Not that it matters any, I really don't care who you are anyway. You missed one of my minor points, most of which went unsaid as I thought it was pretty logical. If I use the software, and actually like it, which is currently an extremely low percentage of the software that I come across, there is an extremely high likelihood that I will recommend using it on a job, and recommend it to friends that are looking for software to perform a specific function. The more people that I tell about your software, the better it is for you, because some of these people will undoubtedly buy it. If not for me, they may have never heard of your particular piece of software, and thus, you would never have made any $$ off them. In my mind it is a gray line. I am not going to play the moral/ethical battlefield with you, only try to show you some of the good things that can come from piracy. You and I will never reach an agreement because we live in vastly different worlds.
Thank you:) There's a ton of people on my side in this, but very few vocal people. The majority of people that are vocal about software piracy are against it, for obvious social reasons. Nobody ever thinks bad of you if you are vocally against software piracy, but people might look at you funny if you tell them that you pirate software on a daily basis.
I do run Linux. I have a dedicated box at school, and I have run it on my own machine for two years. I didn't include it in my list because it's free, and I don't have any software for Linux that isn't GPL.
As for programming, the only programming I am willing to do is web based. I learned basics in college, and I decided that I would pull all my hair out & be bald by the time I'm 30 if I had to program for a living. I prefer to stick with network administration and support.
You're pulling at strings. My software piracy is not the same as robbing a bank. That is a tangible loss, which I agree is wrong. What I am doing is intangible. It's a gray area, but according to my own (read; only mine) code of ethics it's all right. The software industry can never lose money on me (yes, only me, not the entire world) because for the most part I have no desire to buy their products. If everybody thinks this way, and the company goes under because of it, it was probly not that good of a product anyway, since the vast majority of people were unwilling to shell out $$ to support it.
There are a couple products, less than a dozen or so, which I have promised myself that I will someday buy so that the author gets what little monies they actually recieve from a single sale because I think that those products are extremely valuable to me. But I'm a student, and don't have money for these things right now. And for your crack about after I graduate, any semi-decent company that hires me will pay for any software that I require to do my job. That is not to say that I won't keep up with the current software trends on my own outside of the workplace, I'd be foolish not to keep up with current trends. That would make me unproductive as an employee:)
I freely admit it, and I am not going to log out to play anonymity. I am what you are calling a software pirate. Every single piece of software on my machine (configuration changes DAILY) was not paid for. I only have official, original cd's for Win95, 98, and NT4, which I got from work, but still never paid for myself. I also have a recent build of Windows 2000 installed, and have been running Windows 2000 (NT5) for 8 months or so. I currently have around a hundred assorted programs and games installed on my computer, including office, plus, many various multimedia programs & suites, website managers and html editors, mp3 programs, and a dozen or so of the latest greatest games.
I surf the newsgroups, warez sites, and trade with friends on a daily basis. I try out every piece of software that I can get my hands on that sounds like it might be remotely useful for something, regardless of whether or not I have a use for it right now.
Why is all this 'illegal' material on my computer? I am a full-time college student. What I am doing is becoming familiar with as many different programs used for as many different applications as I can. This makes me highly knowledgable, highly productive, and a much sought after commodity in the marketplace. This is good for the industry because when I am put on a job I already know what software is the best solution for the job, and I can tell my boss outright what they should buy without them having to spend any money researching the many different product lines. Widespread knowledge about the faults, down falls, limitations, etc of different products leads to the elimination of the products that are hard to use, or don't do what you need them to do. Without a doubt, this is a good thing. Granted, there are many educational discounts available, but for the most part, a lot of software is crap! How do you find this out, except by trying it out? Demo's and non-timeout software is pointless. If you don't get to try all the features, how do you know if the other features are good enough to warrant purchasing the software?
I don't have a copy of the letter handy, but there is a letter that has been floating around in the warez newsgroups for a year or so. This letter was supposedly written by the author of a piece of software on why he thought that cracking his software was a good idea! Obviously, since I don't have a copy I don't remember all his points, but I remember a couple. He said that it was very flattering to have his software cracked, because that meant that people actually liked it, and that he was doing something right with his software.
The software industry isn't even losing any money on me, because I never had, nor intend to buy the software. Just because I have a copy of it does not mean that there is a chance in hell of me purchasing it, it might mean that I tried it out, and found it to be the buggiest piece of software I had ever used. How do they come up with the statistics anyway? The people that pirate software aren't just sitting around tallying up every piece of software they have, and give it to the proper authorities so it can be put in their nice little spreadsheet are they? No way! So how can they say with a straight face that they are losing all this money, and give an actual dollar amount, when prices for products sold through different venues is vastly varied, they don't know what software is being stolen, and they don't know exactly who is doing it (or we would all have been fined by now).
Food for thought. Anyone want to try to refute me?
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Oops. That's sposed to read office complex for you legal sticklers (can't run a business from most apt complex), and just to make it clear, he is using APC back-ups & smart-ups for the machines. It's only the rack itself that isn't grounded.
A friend of mine ran into the same problem recently. His solution was a heavy duty stainless steel number. It's 6' tall, about 5' long, and 3' deep. Or there abouts. It has four shelves. It's not a solid shelving unit, it's one of those ones with criss crossing bars. I've seen them used before, but I can't remember where he got it, so I can't point anyone to it. But it only cost a couple hundred. He's got four servers, a kvm, monitor, laser printer, deskjet, and tons of files on the thing. It's a great space saver. Anyway, the problem is it isn't grounded. He's a one man show working out of an apartment complex, so he can't really play with the electrical wiring. I don't think the owners would go for that. Is there an easy & safe way that it can be grounded? With all that stuff on there, it gives off a pretty good shock pretty often. He already lost one P90 mobo because of it, too. I'm sure a lot of people have come across this problem while using alternative racks.
I'm just curious what kind of a person's life revolves around getting the ever important next release of /. source. The only reason I can think of that it is imperative that this person gets the code immediately is if s/he operates a mirror /. site, which if anybody ever visited it & made it known to the real /., would get it ko'd pretty quick. I'm also sure that CmdrTaco is plenty smart enough to write ALL his own code & not borrow from anyone not employed on the team. Which would mean that they're not violating anything. Besides, he didn't make millions from us. THEY made millions WITH us. We didn't give them anything personally, besides a dozen or so clicks per person per day. I could keep going for a while, but I think staring at my monitor and waiting for my eyes to start noticing the refresh rate is more interesting than replying to your post.
Moderators seem to have misplaced their brains recently. Either that, or there's a lot of moderators who systematically skip (through whatever means) anonymous coward postings. This kind person posted a link to the actual auction within five minutes of the article being posted on /. cuz Hemos forgot it. No big deal, but the very next post is rated +5 for giving the exact same link. Granted they were less than a minute apart, but this one IS first. Yeah, this is offtopic and possibly redundant, but the message I'm referring to is undeniably non redundant. Please, moderators, check and make sure that the description you're selecting actually fits before you submit it.
I don't care what the rest of you trolls think, I think it's pretty kewl. I don't know about any software that you can download to serve your own collection, but it does play all the music that artists have allowed mp3.com to distribute. So if you're into no-name & a couple known bands, this could be the thing for you.
Hey, kewl! The sites back up. Thanx for posting the pics anyway. I really couldn't get through when I posted that request.
Yah, I hit reload a few dozen times. Wonder if it'll ever repeat, or if it's a true randomizer?
For some unknown reason, I'm kinda interested in seeing what it looks like, and the site is already gone. Too bad. If anyone grabbed a copy of the picture and can post it somewhere, please do.
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awwww. I wanted to say it. No fair.
My school's had a couple run-ins with various agencies. One guy actually had the FBI looking at him last year. But, the admins aren't freaking out over this. They peruse the network, and see if anyone has any mp3's shared, yeah. But they don't go into any password protected folders. We just have one communal password that gets you into almost anybody's shared directories, and the admins leave us alone.
Also, at least in my experience, the admins do not want to shut down ports, and kick people off the network. They would much rather ask a student who knows the network (such as myself) to leak the word that they are about to start searching for things, and to make sure that everything is passworded. There still has been some locking down of ports & such, but as far as I know, nobody has been kicked off the network since that guy last year.
It wouldn't be that hard to add up the time & rig it for slowness. Put the maximum amount of slowest speed ram possible, max out your pci slots with scsi cards & max out the scsi devices with really slow drives (they spin up one by one to minimize power strain), mess up your drivers and the network configuration cuz it takes extra time to error out, and there ya go. 49 minutes is quite unbelievable tho, unless it's a 486 with all the stuff I just talked about.
You all should do just a mite bit of research before you go off on Comdex for requiring a minimum age. I've had tickets to go for the past few years (I'm 21 now), and I actually asked & found out why, instead of just bitching about it. It has to do with insurance. They have to pay a ton more in insurance costs if they're going to have kids out on the floor. Kids do have a habit of getting into trouble. You can still go at almost any age, I've never heard of anyone being turned away at the door, it's just a semi-under-the-table entrance. You sign up ahead of time, get your ticket mailed to you, and when you get there you have no problems at all. You might have to have an ID card to get your specialty tickets & stuff, I don't remember.
But in reality, there is nothing stopping this CTO from going to Comdex. This whole story & the outrage is all based on a load of crap.
I can't find any mention of the Winamp plugin that it supposedly uses on their site. What type of plugin is this? Does it limit support specifically to Mp3's, or will it work with any audio format that Winamp supports? I saw the RealJukebox mentioned, along with their own BOOM software, but I don't know much about RealJukebox. Heard of it, never seen it. Does it require Winamp, is that where this plugin stuff is coming from?
$84 is a bargain for almost any computer hardware, regardless of what it does. I almost ordered one on the spur of the moment, but I decided that an extra long cable works just fine for me.
Ahhhh. That would explain it. Didn't mean to knock such a famous guy, I just honestly didn't know who he was, and the paper didn't make him seem that important (by itself). Father of Modern Computing I have heard of, but I forgot the name as soon as I learned it. Didn't pay much attention in the 'introductory' computer classes when I actually went to them, so I couldn't tell ya if we were actually taught about him, or just told that he was the 'Father'.
Never heard of him in my acs classes. Then again, I don't take any in depth programming classes, so I never would have been exposed to encryption methodology.
What kind of compensation are we talking about here? I'm pretty sure the limit for small claims court in Illinois is $5000, but each state has its own limits set by law. I don't think the letter stated that they got the maximum award allowable by law, either. Probably, unless they got a very tech-savvy judge, they received quite a bit less than the maximum, whatever it may be in California. Still a definite win, but it may or may not actually end up costing the spammers $$ (they make $$ off the spam they send out, and chances are they made more than they were fined). Doesn't seem quite fair, does it?
So, let me get this straight. Yahoo bought, merged, (whatever) with Geocities. Yahoo now owns all rights to anything on the Geocities servers. So... If we put up material that is deemed inappropriate, and somebody gets mad, the material is actually Yahoo's, not ours. So if we make sufficiently poor taste websites that result in a lawsuit, we, the user, can never be brought to court, because it is not ours. Yahoo would be the only defendant in a lawsuit, and all punitive damages would be their's to pay. Right? :)
Well, at least it sounds good in theory.
What's right for you is not right for some. The two of them have stuck this out far longer than most people would (years), considering the lack of funds & massive time commitment. How often do you click on the banner ads? If you wanted them to be able to keep it forever, you should have sent them $$. Congratulations on the major achievement Cmdr Taco & Hemos, and I hope /. will now get the recognition and attention it justly deserves. That and all the $$ you need to buy as many toys as your house can possibly hold :)
Here's to the future of the new & improved SlashDot!!!!
Info from the /.'d site:
Operating temperature range, digital music mode
5 deg. C to 55 deg. C Operating temperature range,
radio mode only -20 deg. C to 60 deg. C
Humidity, operating 10% to 90% RH, non-condensing Humidity,
non-operating 5% to 95% RH, non-condensing Shock,
operating 150G Shock,
non-operating 400G
The interesting part to me is the temparature range, and the shock. 5 degrees celsius is 41 degrees fahrenheit for those of us that live in the US. That means that for at least four months of the year, we can only listen to the radio, unless you live in florida or somewhere warm. That's kinda crappy. How bout a tiny onboard heater for that thing?
Also, I have no clue about the shock absorption. What does your everyday pothole do? How about your typical train tracks?
Anyone have any clue what import and taxation fees would be included? The site doesn't say. I really want one of these, but I'm gonna wait another year, and see if some better stuff comes along (instead of just the first ones), and hopefully prices will become more reasonable, too.
Anonymous coward? Okay. Not that it matters any, I really don't care who you are anyway. You missed one of my minor points, most of which went unsaid as I thought it was pretty logical. If I use the software, and actually like it, which is currently an extremely low percentage of the software that I come across, there is an extremely high likelihood that I will recommend using it on a job, and recommend it to friends that are looking for software to perform a specific function. The more people that I tell about your software, the better it is for you, because some of these people will undoubtedly buy it. If not for me, they may have never heard of your particular piece of software, and thus, you would never have made any $$ off them. In my mind it is a gray line. I am not going to play the moral/ethical battlefield with you, only try to show you some of the good things that can come from piracy. You and I will never reach an agreement because we live in vastly different worlds.
Thank you :) There's a ton of people on my side in this, but very few vocal people. The majority of people that are vocal about software piracy are against it, for obvious social reasons. Nobody ever thinks bad of you if you are vocally against software piracy, but people might look at you funny if you tell them that you pirate software on a daily basis.
I do run Linux. I have a dedicated box at school, and I have run it on my own machine for two years. I didn't include it in my list because it's free, and I don't have any software for Linux that isn't GPL.
As for programming, the only programming I am willing to do is web based. I learned basics in college, and I decided that I would pull all my hair out & be bald by the time I'm 30 if I had to program for a living. I prefer to stick with network administration and support.
You're pulling at strings. My software piracy is not the same as robbing a bank. That is a tangible loss, which I agree is wrong. What I am doing is intangible. It's a gray area, but according to my own (read; only mine) code of ethics it's all right. The software industry can never lose money on me (yes, only me, not the entire world) because for the most part I have no desire to buy their products. If everybody thinks this way, and the company goes under because of it, it was probly not that good of a product anyway, since the vast majority of people were unwilling to shell out $$ to support it.
:)
There are a couple products, less than a dozen or so, which I have promised myself that I will someday buy so that the author gets what little monies they actually recieve from a single sale because I think that those products are extremely valuable to me. But I'm a student, and don't have money for these things right now. And for your crack about after I graduate, any semi-decent company that hires me will pay for any software that I require to do my job. That is not to say that I won't keep up with the current software trends on my own outside of the workplace, I'd be foolish not to keep up with current trends. That would make me unproductive as an employee
I freely admit it, and I am not going to log out to play anonymity. I am what you are calling a software pirate. Every single piece of software on my machine (configuration changes DAILY) was not paid for. I only have official, original cd's for Win95, 98, and NT4, which I got from work, but still never paid for myself. I also have a recent build of Windows 2000 installed, and have been running Windows 2000 (NT5) for 8 months or so. I currently have around a hundred assorted programs and games installed on my computer, including office, plus, many various multimedia programs & suites, website managers and html editors, mp3 programs, and a dozen or so of the latest greatest games.
I surf the newsgroups, warez sites, and trade with friends on a daily basis. I try out every piece of software that I can get my hands on that sounds like it might be remotely useful for something, regardless of whether or not I have a use for it right now.
Why is all this 'illegal' material on my computer? I am a full-time college student. What I am doing is becoming familiar with as many different programs used for as many different applications as I can. This makes me highly knowledgable, highly productive, and a much sought after commodity in the marketplace. This is good for the industry because when I am put on a job I already know what software is the best solution for the job, and I can tell my boss outright what they should buy without them having to spend any money researching the many different product lines. Widespread knowledge about the faults, down falls, limitations, etc of different products leads to the elimination of the products that are hard to use, or don't do what you need them to do. Without a doubt, this is a good thing. Granted, there are many educational discounts available, but for the most part, a lot of software is crap! How do you find this out, except by trying it out? Demo's and non-timeout software is pointless. If you don't get to try all the features, how do you know if the other features are good enough to warrant purchasing the software?
I don't have a copy of the letter handy, but there is a letter that has been floating around in the warez newsgroups for a year or so. This letter was supposedly written by the author of a piece of software on why he thought that cracking his software was a good idea! Obviously, since I don't have a copy I don't remember all his points, but I remember a couple. He said that it was very flattering to have his software cracked, because that meant that people actually liked it, and that he was doing something right with his software.
The software industry isn't even losing any money on me, because I never had, nor intend to buy the software. Just because I have a copy of it does not mean that there is a chance in hell of me purchasing it, it might mean that I tried it out, and found it to be the buggiest piece of software I had ever used. How do they come up with the statistics anyway? The people that pirate software aren't just sitting around tallying up every piece of software they have, and give it to the proper authorities so it can be put in their nice little spreadsheet are they? No way! So how can they say with a straight face that they are losing all this money, and give an actual dollar amount, when prices for products sold through different venues is vastly varied, they don't know what software is being stolen, and they don't know exactly who is doing it (or we would all have been fined by now).
Food for thought. Anyone want to try to refute me?
futurama? Where? Is it on IRC, usenet??? I want :)