The FSF (al least rms) adamantly resists using the term Linux to refer to anything other than the kernel. Thus the LinuxFund is clearly for funding the Linux kernel, and not any other Free Software. Since the FSF does not own the Linux kernel, they clearly should not get any of the money.
Clearly the EFF is not "Linux" either. I'm all for what they do. I'm just pointing out that the EFF does not reflect the same goals that I read on http://linuxfund.org/.
I'd suggest that someone set up a site to first poll for projects, and then allow folks to vote for them. If the polling and voting could be constrained to card holders, then all the better. Unfortunately I expect that would cost more to do than it is worth.
If it's going to go to one place, I'd recommend Debian, but then I'm a Debian developer.;-)
PS: Perhaps a better name would have been FOSSFund.org;-)/me likes that and registers it. I'll donate it if someone else (tm) maintains the fund.
PPS: I've been a card holder since '01 according to my card. I recall they had to re-open my account once and I think I got my first LinuxFund card back in '99.
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Note that babelfish does not seem to like big5 so I used the GB version. It's not gibberish, but it's not really english either. You can get the general idea though. I like the references to "primitive code". Perhaps they know more than they are saying?;-)
Thought I'd post here briefly to clear up some of the comments.
As andersen mentioned these are a discontinued product which I got a hold of for below the manufacturing cost.
They are a true hackers appliance. Probably don't serve any useful purpose yet. Once we have VoIP and a digital answering machine working then I'll call them useful.
At any rate the components should run you around $300 (usd) so if you want a project to hack on, this has been a fun one for those involved.
There is no x-10 interface. As the paragraph quoted below mentions this could be connected to the existing serial port if you like.
Linux will run on the device. Inferno is on them now. Play with both. Subscribe to Inferno source for $500 and hack on it if you like.
It looks like MicroWindows and perhaps others as well running on uClibc will fit in the 4M of onboard flash and get about the same functionality that the existing Inferno offers. I prefer a complete open source solution, but will not force those views on others.
Thanx for the interest! Still around 1000 units left at the time of this writing (for the may that keep asking).
Each of these notices of a hardware vendor dropping a product are good news for the Linux Hackers out there. I've got an I-Opener running Linux and a Compaq IA for that matter, which is still a shipping product.
I'm also deeply involved in the
TuxScreen project. This is a discontinued WebPhone that used to sell for $650 running Inferno. The remaining discontinued units are now available to Linux hackers everywhere for $99 usd. ARM Linux is now running on the devices, so they at least work as an X terminal.
The challenge with each of these discontinued hardware "bargins" is to get enough technical details from the original vendor to make them useful to Linux Hackers.
This is indeed the case. AltaVista is NOT giving away the source to the altavista engine. They are letting you link to the engine running on thier site. Or you can download the 3000 page crippled version in binary only.
This is indeed the case. AltaVista is NOT giving away the source to the altavista engine. They are letting you link to the engine runnin on thier site. Or you can download the 3000 page crippled version in binary only.
Doesn't stand to reason that Linux compiled for Crusoe would run faster that Linux compiled for x86? I would like to see tools available to compile the base OS in native instructions and run the apps in x86. This should give a significant performance boost. Maybe a tool to convert binaries and save the result to disk? The users could DL apps like WordPerfect and convert them to Crusoe's binary format. If one is running only open source software, then one could recompile the world. Now that's what I'd like, a Crusoe all-day laptop running Crusoe Linux.;-)
Best I found was this page: Rob's Home Automation Page which mentions a few possible choices. I'm working on some other software to build a computer in my fridge for this purpose. Electrolux has a prototype of a similar design called a Screenfridge Now this would be a cool Linux project! e-mail, ipmasq, firewall, home automation, alarm systems, etc. I use Festival for voice synthesis on mine, I just need a good voice recognition module!
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The FSF (al least rms) adamantly resists using the term Linux to refer to anything other than the kernel. Thus the LinuxFund is clearly for funding the Linux kernel, and not any other Free Software. Since the FSF does not own the Linux kernel, they clearly should not get any of the money.
;-)
;-) /me likes that and registers it. I'll donate it if someone else (tm) maintains the fund.
Clearly the EFF is not "Linux" either. I'm all for what they do. I'm just pointing out that the EFF does not reflect the same goals that I read on http://linuxfund.org/.
I'd suggest that someone set up a site to first poll for projects, and then allow folks to vote for them. If the polling and voting could be constrained to card holders, then all the better. Unfortunately I expect that would cost more to do than it is worth.
If it's going to go to one place, I'd recommend Debian, but then I'm a Debian developer.
PS: Perhaps a better name would have been FOSSFund.org
PPS: I've been a card holder since '01 according to my card. I recall they had to re-open my account once and I think I got my first LinuxFund card back in '99.
I'd be more than happy to make sure BZFlag runs on this if you'll send me a laptop. ;-)
P.S. I'm the http://bzflag.org/ maintainer.
LWATCDR writes "I have been saying this for a long time but now it is offical."
Well, if yahoo news says that somebody once said something at some point in time, I guess that make's it offical.
Perhaps "Yahoo agrees too" would be more appropriate? Can the AOL "Me too!" be too far behind?
translated with babelfish ;-)
Note that babelfish does not seem to like big5 so I used the GB version. It's not gibberish, but it's not really english either. You can get the general idea though. I like the references to "primitive code". Perhaps they know more than they are saying?
http://BZFlag.org/ ;-)
Thought I'd post here briefly to clear up some of the comments.
As andersen mentioned these are a discontinued product which I got a hold of for below the manufacturing cost.
They are a true hackers appliance. Probably don't serve any useful purpose yet. Once we have VoIP and a digital answering machine working then I'll call them useful.
At any rate the components should run you around $300 (usd) so if you want a project to hack on, this has been a fun one for those involved.
There is no x-10 interface. As the paragraph quoted below mentions this could be connected to the existing serial port if you like.
Linux will run on the device. Inferno is on them now. Play with both. Subscribe to Inferno source for $500 and hack on it if you like.
It looks like MicroWindows and perhaps others as well running on uClibc will fit in the 4M of onboard flash and get about the same functionality that the existing Inferno offers. I prefer a complete open source solution, but will not force those views on others.
Thanx for the interest! Still around 1000 units left at the time of this writing (for the may that keep asking).
Each of these notices of a hardware vendor dropping a product are good news for the Linux Hackers out there. I've got an I-Opener running Linux and a Compaq IA for that matter, which is still a shipping product.
I'm also deeply involved in the TuxScreen project. This is a discontinued WebPhone that used to sell for $650 running Inferno. The remaining discontinued units are now available to Linux hackers everywhere for $99 usd. ARM Linux is now running on the devices, so they at least work as an X terminal.
The challenge with each of these discontinued hardware "bargins" is to get enough technical details from the original vendor to make them useful to Linux Hackers.
Linux on your phone, now that's hot ;-)
Good luck and happy hacking!
This is indeed the case. AltaVista is NOT giving away the source to the altavista engine. They are letting you link to the engine running on thier site. Or you can download the 3000 page crippled version in binary only.
This is indeed the case. AltaVista is NOT giving away the source to the altavista engine. They are letting you link to the engine runnin on thier site. Or you can download the 3000 page crippled version in binary only.
Doesn't stand to reason that Linux compiled for Crusoe would run faster that Linux compiled for x86? I would like to see tools available to compile the base OS in native instructions and run the apps in x86. This should give a significant performance boost. Maybe a tool to convert binaries and save the result to disk? The users could DL apps like WordPerfect and convert them to Crusoe's binary format. If one is running only open source software, then one could recompile the world. Now that's what I'd like, a Crusoe all-day laptop running Crusoe Linux. ;-)
Best I found was this page: Rob's Home Automation Page which mentions a few possible choices. I'm working on some other software to build a computer in my fridge for this purpose. Electrolux has a prototype of a similar design called a Screenfridge Now this would be a cool Linux project! e-mail, ipmasq, firewall, home automation, alarm systems, etc. I use Festival for voice synthesis on mine, I just need a good voice recognition module!