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The Best of Windows Open Source Software?

Boiotos asks: "I'm cooking up a CD-ROM image of excellent Win32 Open Source software to give to friends and family who are intrigued by the whole OSS movement but don't know where to start. I figure once they're used to Mozilla and AbiWord under WinXP, a Linux partition would be less daunting. So fellow Slashdotters, how about it: what Win32 OSS projects deserve a place on the 650 Mb of Solid Gold? Remember, this is for non-geeks and families, so Cygwin is out (even though I love it) and games are in. Extra points, as always, to the obscure but beautiful. Finally, projects targeting only Win32 -- with no Free Unix crossover -- may apply, but will be subject to a strenuous physical test."

889 comments

  1. Um... by Bonkers54 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can you say Tux Racer?

    1. Re:Um... by Thomas+A.+Anderson · · Score: 3, Informative

      Absolutely - Tux Racer and BZFlag (www.bzflag.org) - best cross-platform, open-source games I know!

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    2. Re:Um... by modecx · · Score: 1

      X-pilot, and X-Evil, hands down. I wonder if there's any active Xpilot players around anymore... I'll have to confess, it's been a while since I've played.

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    3. Re:Um... by Thomas+A.+Anderson · · Score: 2

      Must find these new games

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    4. Re:Um... by Golthar · · Score: 1

      Vegastrike

      http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net

    5. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And they both suck donkey balls.

      And no, this isn't a "hahaha dirty gnu hippie lunix open sores, lolololol"-troll. I honestly think both Tux racer and especially BZFlag suck.

      Nethack. Now there's a really good open source game. Unfortunately it is "a bit" complicated...

    6. Re:Um... by mackstann · · Score: 1

      BZFLAG!!!! ! !!

      that game had me pretty caught up for a couple weeks, although i quit playing due to my p233/integrated video not being very nice with it. i cant wait to play it again on my new machine. ..........BZFLAG!

    7. Re:Um... by k-0s · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's the site for BZFlag: http://www.bzflag.org/

      and the site for Tux Racer: http://www.tuxracer.com/

    8. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't these people doing the same thing:
      http://theopencd.org

    9. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Has anyone mentionned the OpenCD project ?

      http://www.theopencd.org

      A lot of titles mentionned here could also be added to this project...

      It's just that I've seen their site and It's a good starting point.

    10. Re:Um... by modecx · · Score: 1

      XEvil
      XPilot

      Both of these games have ports for Win and *nix systems (started as *nix only.) Both of them have been around forever, but are endlessly entertaining (and Carpal Tunnel Syndrome provoking.)

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  2. CDex by A+Commentor · · Score: 5, Informative

    CDex -> for converting their CDs to MP3...

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    1. Re:CDex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      very very buggy CDex is. I couldn't get it to work on XP at all, so I'm stuck using MusicMatch.

    2. Re:CDex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most halarious Internet radio I've ever heard. Adult content.

    3. Re:CDex by Politas · · Score: 1

      Definitely. The only Ripping program that actually understands "Various Artists" CDs, and lets you create your filenames in the format you want them in. I'm very impressed with CDex!

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    4. Re:CDex by DeeKayWon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Do also point out that LAME, the MP3 encoder that CDex includes, is not only open source but is also the best MP3 encoder there is, period.

    5. Re:CDex by Unreal+One · · Score: 1

      CDEx is outstanding. The first and best cd ripping software, hands down.

    6. Re:CDex by hummer · · Score: 1

      I've been using EAC for the last year or so... How does CDex compare to that?

    7. Re: CDex by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Funny


      > CDex -> for converting their CDs to MP3...

      fdisk -> for installing Linux!

      ps - I included tags so you can tell whether this is supposed to be funny, informative, or trollish. Too bad Slashdot won't recognize the markup.

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    8. Re:CDex by G�tz · · Score: 1
      I'd consider it equal feature-wise, but CDex is free software, so it's suited as an answer to this article.

      If you thought you needed Exact Audio Copy for scratched CDs, CDex also has a safe ripping mode based on cdparanoia by xiph.org (yes, the vorbis guys).

    9. Re:CDex by thumperward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unfortunately it's impossible to tell, because eveyone who has ever tried one of the two seems to want to stick with it forever. At least that's my experience. EAC gets rave reviews but in my heart of hearts I just know CDex must be better, so won't go and try the alternative.

      Seriously, it's not like PC vs Mac or something... CDex vs EAC arguments inevitably end in an amicable agreement to disagree, because no-one has ever been able to tear themselves away from whichever one they chose first in order to make an objective comparison.

      Probably. If you're brave enough to try, please do, I'd love to know what EAC's like. (I'm just afraid to ask.)

      - Chris

    10. Re:CDex by StrawberryFrog · · Score: 3, Interesting
      CDex -> for converting their CDs to MP3...
      Uh, no. Rather:

      CDex -> for converting their CDs to Ogg...

      ogg is free as in beer and speech, winamp plays them, and they sound great!

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    11. Re:CDex by Fweeky · · Score: 2

      I started with CDex; I ended up giving up when several consecutive versions nuked in XP. So I switched to EAC.

      I've been perfectly happy with it since; the only features I'm missing are built in ogg encoding (rather than going through oggenc.exe), and a more configurable quality setting (it only covers integers).

    12. Re:CDex by IamNotWitchboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      EAC is primarily a ripper. Wishing it had built-in OGG encoding is beyond its scope. I don't like that they include LAME binaries now, but I guess it helps to bring it close to more people. They may include built in ogg sometime in the near future. who knows? On the other subject, you can use a "user defined encoder", set the extension to .OGG, point to oggenc.exe and set your own additional command line options, with the difference that you need to put %s %d after your options. So what you are looking for would be basically: --quality 7.5 %s %d The Birate is irrelevant and the rest remains the same.

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    13. Re:CDex by p_trinli · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Or converting their CDs to OGG.

    14. Re:CDex by Brazilian+Joe · · Score: 1

      CDEx has some catches if you try to install it on Win2k or WinXP. if you include it, you'd bette also include the adaptec ASPI driver pack. BUT this driver pack has a bug, it forgets to add some registry entries.
      There is a guy that fixed it, dont remeber the URL though, but the .reg file contains this:
      -----STARTS BELOW THIS LINE-----
      Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

      [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Ser vi ces\Aspi32]
      "ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
      "Type" =dword:00000001
      "Start"=dword:00000002

      [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Ser vi ces\Aspi32\Parameters]
      "ExcludeMiniports"=""
      --- --ENDS ABOVE THIS LINE-----
      I found all this information on the CDEx homepage, but if you are supposed make things easier...

    15. Re:CDex by Verteiron · · Score: 1

      Actually, EAC fully supports all the command line parameters for OggEnc, including those to set ID tags and bitrate, quality, etc without having to type them in manually.

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    16. Re:CDex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      personally, i prefer the Fraunhofer codec (the professional one, the one that goes up to 320 kbps). unfortunately, its hardly open-source or free. very expensive, in fact. but, uh, i paid for it.... yeah, thats the ticket...

      "of course i paid for this software, officer. if you want the proof, just look behind you." *blackjack!*

    17. Re:CDex by CoAX · · Score: 1

      Well I wouldn't choose this one.
      Let's say a good ExactAudioCopy v0.9 extractor (reads up to 80 times the same part to avoid errors) coupled with a nice LAME 3.92 win32 DLL would do the job !
      LAME is among the best MP3 compressor so far.
      They are both freeware and don't need install

      C o A X

    18. Re:CDex by AUsBandit · · Score: 1

      I thought open source was a constraint?
      Get Ogg Vorbis .ogg player+encoder since it is open and .mp3 is not plus they are better anyway.

      *Players-
      Sonique
      Zinf (formerly FreeAMP)

      *Encoders
      OggdropXPd - More powerful, more complex drag and drop GUI encoder

      http://www.vorbis.com/download_win.psp

    19. Re:CDex by scrytch · · Score: 3, Informative

      Be sure to include OggDS so they can play their .ogg files in Windows Media Player (yes I know "everwicked.com" looks bad, google for oggds if you don't believe the link)

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    20. Re:CDex by Azar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I originally tried CDex. I liked it, but it -never- produced 100% quality rips from my CD's. There would always be a pop or glitch somewhere in the song. I could re-rip the song over and over and it would always happen in the exact same spot. I used Audiograbber (free version) until I found EAC. Eac is highly configurable and one of the best rippers I've ever used. No more song glitches. Period.

      I've always kept my eye on CDex and tried newer versions. It's pretty slick. I like the software. I've just always obtained better results from EAC. However, I don't think EAC is open source. Is it? This discussion was supposed to be about OSS, and not just about quality Win32 freeware.

    21. Re:CDex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there anything open source that goes the other way (i.e. CD burners)? I currently use Nero, which scores pleasingly low on the annoyance factor, but it is commercial software.

    22. Re:CDex by pythas · · Score: 1

      Honestly, this seems like a really silly request.

      "I have a good piece of software here, which does the job well, but I did have to pay for it. Software companies which charge money for their products are bad"

      I like free software, I like open source, but I have no problems paying for really good software.

      Regardless of what brainwashing the fsf has done on you, commercial software isn't evil.

    23. Re:CDex by smithmc · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't they be tools that will also be usable under Linux? (Pardon me. *GNUUUUUUUU*/Linux.) Like AbiWord and Mozilla are? What's the sense of getting someone hooked on CDex, only to have to turn around and tell them they can't use it once they make the switch?

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  3. Open Office by 403Forbidden · · Score: 5, Interesting

    www.openoffice.org

    1. Re:Open Office by a_mastronardi · · Score: 1

      I use it everyday, because I use both, windows and linux desktop, and OpenOffice let me exchange document and others files wihtout any problem.

    2. Re:Open Office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YEP, Use it myself on W32 and linux , a bit slow opening up maybe , but when it's free , who cares , when it works :-)
      I got mine from cheapbytes which has Sun , linux and win32 ziped on 2 disks $8.00 (great if you don't have a fast 'net connection

    3. Re:Open Office by abdulwahid · · Score: 2

      www.openoffice.org

      Yep...that's half the CD full.

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    4. Re:Open Office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was quite impressed by how slick and polished Open Office is. If anybody hasn't tried out the latest versions yet give it a go, well worth your while.

    5. Re:Open Office by Feoh · · Score: 1

      Definite kudos to the OpenOffice folks.

      No more need to sleaze the official Orifice disks
      for home use, now I can do everything I need and
      still keep it all Orifice compatible so I can use it at work.

      Solid software. Two enthusiastic thumbs up.

    6. Re:Open Office by malachid69 · · Score: 1

      I completely agree. That is the type of software (OpenOffice, AbiWord, etc) current Windows users are likely to switch to with no qualms whatsoever.

      Malachi

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    7. Re:Open Office by abischof · · Score: 2

      Half the CD? It's only 50 MB :).

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  4. Well, there is always gimp by HughsOnFirst · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cat got your tongue? (something important seems to be missing from your comment ... like the body or the subject!)

    1. Re:Well, there is always gimp by glwtta · · Score: 2
      It's been some time since I used the Win32 GIMP port, but then it was a very unpleasant experience - basically it spent more time crashing than working. Maybe it has improved dramatically in that department, I'd love to hear that.

      Another great piece of free unix software with an immature win32 port is Xine - I'd give that a look-see as well.

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    2. Re:Well, there is always gimp by a20vertigo · · Score: 1

      yea, it used to be buggy a while back but i have had very very good luck, and improving luck at that with more and more recent installer builds of it...

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    3. Re:Well, there is always gimp by FPhlyer · · Score: 2

      It has improved greatly since then.

      I use it a great deal on my Win2000 machine at work. My only complaint is that my Wacom tablet does not behave nicely in Gimp for Windows, so I am left using the older CIC Handwriter when in GIMP. Wacom for Photoshop.

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    4. Re:Well, there is always gimp by ghack · · Score: 1

      Well...sorta.

      Under NT 4 SP 6 it works SPECTACULAR for me

      Under 98 the latest version still often crashes..

      But that isnt gimp's fault, only poor 98 engineering.

    5. Re:Well, there is always gimp by Politas · · Score: 1

      The Gimp works perfectly under Win XP in my experience. I think I have one plug-in that crashes it, but otherwise it's very solid.

      Poor handling of my Wacom tablet is the only issue, but then, I haven't got the tablet working in GNU/Linux properly, either. (Though there it's a matter of configuring it correctly)

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    6. Re:Well, there is always gimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At my company, I got them to let me give Gimp for Windows a try before we went out and spent $$$ for Photoshop. It is really stable, and has yet to crash ( knock on wood). It has all the tools we need ( please, no PS vs Gimp arguments) and does all the graphics at our company. I always give a little speech to those that are interested on the OS movement.

    7. Re:Well, there is always gimp by fjordboy · · Score: 2

      *shrug* I still use Win98 (and I love it! Far better than that Me crap...though I plan on upgradng to 2000pro eventually..not XP), and I use gimp, and I haven't had any problems except when I first started. However, the friendly people at GIMP.org had some pointers for running The GIMP and windows....in fact, on the downloads page there is a file that you need to replace when running 98 to make it work properly. After I followed the instructions and whatnot, it works beautifally.

    8. Re:Well, there is always gimp by Synonymous+Howard · · Score: 0

      Indeed. If free software meets your needs, why pay more ;-p

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  5. CDex by legend · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Free CD Ripper/MP3 Encoder

    http://www.cdex.n3.net/

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  6. Dont forget... by pyman · · Score: 2, Funny

    to include XBill!!!

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    1. Re:Dont forget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a Windows version of xbill?

      Wouldn't that be WinLinus?

  7. Gnucleus by DJ-Dodger · · Score: 5, Informative

    Gnucleus! Open Source gnutella file sharing. For once you can be REALLY sure that there isn't any spyware in your filesharing software!

    1. Re:Gnucleus by Reece400 · · Score: 1

      I agree, Gnucleus seems to be one of the best file sharing progs in my opinon, and has NO spyware!! it's amazing :)

      Reece,

    2. Re:Gnucleus by martyn+s · · Score: 0

      Yeah, or you can get Kazaa Lite, so you can be REALLY sure that your p2p client will actually find decent files for you.

    3. Re:Gnucleus by DJ-Dodger · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Call me paranoid, but I don't trust some random anonymous guy to pull all the spyware out of a commerical product when I can't look a the source and verify that he didn't throw some spyware of his own back in.

    4. Re:Gnucleus by xWeston · · Score: 1

      I believe he just uses reshacker or some tool similar to this to get rid of the "spyware" parts of kazaa

    5. Re:Gnucleus by WhiteBandit · · Score: 1

      I believe you are thinking of Kazaa Lite.

      He supposedly strips Kazaa of spyware. Yes, you can't be sure of that.

      However, this shouldn't be confused with Gnucleus which is an open source Gnutella client (that Morpheus ripped off awhile ago and ADDED spyware to it).

    6. Re:Gnucleus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The post and the reply is by the same person. He can't be confusing his own ideas.

    7. Re:Gnucleus by Raetsel · · Score: 2

      Uh, DJ, Gnucleus is GPL. It isn't commercial -- though it has been hijacked and put in "commercial" packages -- Morpheus for example, IIRC.

      Check it out at SourceForge.

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    8. Re:Gnucleus by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting for Gnucleus to be ported to Linux...

    9. Re:Gnucleus by clubin · · Score: 1

      What in the world are you talking about? What commercial product are you talking about? Who's this "random anonymous guy"? What source code access access problems are you referring to?

      Gnucleus is noncommercial, primarily developed by John Marshall, and has it's source code available here. Either you are very confused or you're referring to all the other file-share options and am being very unclear.

    10. Re:Gnucleus by jbn-o · · Score: 1
      It [Gnucleus] isn't commercial -- though it has been hijacked and put in "commercial" packages -- Morpheus for example, IIRC.

      GNU GPL-covered software and "commercial" software are not opposites. It can be okay to distribute GPL-covered software commercially.

    11. Re:Gnucleus by Hast · · Score: 1

      And there's DC++ as well. (dcplusplus.sourceforge.net) It's made for Win32 though, but I guess in this case that is actually a "bonus".

    12. Re:Gnucleus by DJ-Dodger · · Score: 1

      I know, I accidentally replied to my own message instead of to a reply to my own message. I was intending to reply to the guy talking about Kazaa Lite.

    13. Re:Gnucleus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just use PySoulSeek

  8. suggestions by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

    phoenix, openoffice, oggdrop, for making oggs, the GIMP of course, the list could go on and on and on

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    1. Re:suggestions by fault0 · · Score: 2

      oggdrop? why not cdex, which is perhaps one of the most known free software projects for windows

    2. Re:suggestions by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      you have to take into consideration that this is for families and non geeks, oggdrop is drop dead simple, literally, drop your wavs onto the fish, it converts them. i realize the popularity of cdex, its a great program, hell, why not include it too, but oggdrop has to be the most simple sound conversion program i have ever come across.

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    3. Re:suggestions by fault0 · · Score: 2

      > families and non geeks,

      True, but many of these people use things like MusicMatch. Cdex is as hard (imho) as MusicMatch is.

    4. Re:suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Phoenix will probably be good in the future, but not yet. I mean, the concept is great, and I put it on my machine and removed the IE shortcuts again (I tried this once with Mozilla but had to go back). Whilst Phoenix was "almost there", it's load times were still a bit too long if you didn't already have a window of it up. It also hard locks my machine about once every 4 or 5 hours (and I had gone for like 3 weeks on this WinXP machine. My Linux box is sitting at just over 41 days for uptime and I don't want to even try Phoenix over there :). All these are good suggestions though. I've been trying my best to switch to Windows open source software. If Linux would dump X11 (we could keep compatibility through a plug-in app but we don't need to use it for local apps) then I think we could finally start to create a desktop to compete with Windows. The software is there, but the Linux desktop is currently just too slow and, erm, ugly (yes I'm using KDE 3.0.3 and I said that. Certain things are great but the system fonts and most of the widgets still aren't up to par) to use 24/7.

  9. Microsoft add by aralin · · Score: 1

    Does anybody else got the Microsoft add with this article? Are they specially asigned to articles about M$FT or what? That's pretty interesting...

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    1. Re:Microsoft add by asmdsr · · Score: 0

      this is not interesting at all. I have seen microsoft adds on here before, one of them is bound to come up for some chump in this article.

      You are that chump.

  10. PuTTY by Professor+Collins · · Score: 4, Informative

    I cannot imagine anyone using a Windows machine without the magnificent PuTTY ssh, telnet, and rlogin client. It is probably the best ssh programme I have ever had the pleasure of using, and its terminal emulator is superior to most xterms in many ways. Your CD collection would be incomplete without it.

    1. Re:PuTTY by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hey, I thought you only trolled! What's with the good suggestions?

      PuTTY is a work of art. It's free, it's flexible, it's self-contained in one executable (no bloody installers!)...it's the single Windows program that I must have if I'm using a Windows machine.

      It can even emulate X11's middle-click-to-paste and select-to-copy mode. Absolutely wonderful.

    2. Re:PuTTY by Sabalon · · Score: 2

      Only problem is it keeps the settings in the registry. Put them in an ini file for easier reconfiging and it'd be 100% perfect.

      Though will people new to open source need putty for anything?

    3. Re:PuTTY by Starship+Trooper · · Score: 1

      I agree wholeheartedly. PuTTY's ability to make rectangular selections using Alt-Click is fabulous. I often curse its lack when using xterm on a Linux box. Has anyone thought about detaching the terminal emulator from PuTTY and porting it to X on UNIX? I'd take it over xterm or konsole any day of the week.

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    4. Re:PuTTY by dotgod · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Remember, this is for non-geeks and families

      Sorry, but I don't know too many non-geeks who have a need for an ssh/telnet client.

    5. Re:PuTTY by phorm · · Score: 2

      I agree that putty is an awesome terminal emulator. It's tiny, single-file, and requites no configuration.

      However, in minor objection, this is probably a geek tool, as most "family-oriented" PC's don't use much of telnet, SSH, or rlogin nowadays.

      I'll throw in a bit of pro-putty to say that almost anyone running a personal website with SSH should put putty somewhere they can get at it from. Whenever I'm away from home and the server needs tuning, it's a short download away - even with dialup (assuming that at least one of the FTP server or Apache are alive).

      Sometimes the simple tools are the best - phorm

    6. Re:PuTTY by Rufus211 · · Score: 1

      I cannot imagine anyone using a Windows machine without the magnificent PuTTY ssh, telnet, and rlogin client.

      I can, it's called the 95% of people that don't do any programming/sys admin/general geek stuff. When was the last time your mom ssh'd into her co-located linux box and rsynced her database? When for that matter did 90% of computer users do anything other than play games, surf, chat, and use word?

    7. Re:PuTTY by compwizrd · · Score: 2

      You can setup a batch file to import a ".ini" file into your registery, and when you are done with putty, export it back to that file.

    8. Re:PuTTY by Joe+Groff · · Score: 1
      However, in minor objection, this is probably a geek tool, as most "family-oriented" PC's don't use much of telnet, SSH, or rlogin nowadays.

      I disagree. Most families these days have at least one young aspiring geek, and these geeklets can only benefit from having high-level tools like PuTTY at their disposal as they become curious about Unix, networking and systems administration in general. Just because something is "family-oriented" doesn't mean it needs to be dumbed down.

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    9. Re:PuTTY by glwtta · · Score: 2

      Something I just realized - I am typing this from my gaming partition, all that's installed here is Win2K, SPs and drivers, Unreal 2003 demo, Warcraft 3 and PuTTY. Seems to be the only app I can't live without :)

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    10. Re:PuTTY by thumperward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I start fourth year of a degree course in computer science in just over a week, and I'm scared of Telnet. Most families have at least one person who can program the VCR, not use unix CLI tools.

      - Chris

    11. Re:PuTTY by Skwirl · · Score: 1

      Putty.exe is 347 kb. That's not a heck of a lot of space to take up on the proposed CD, considering that some of that 95% will someday grow an itch to dig further into computing and that Windows should fricking ship with an ssh client anyways.

    12. Re:PuTTY by Xawen · · Score: 1

      My college campus, for example, used to have it's primary logins through telnet, they have since shut that port, and require an ssh client to login. I know this is a common trend on Unix campuses, so I think Putty qualifies.

    13. Re:PuTTY by modecx · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with ya, PuTTY is an essential tool for anybody. If my mom can use to ssh to check her mail, anyone can use it. All that for the low low cost of a couple hundred KBs... Amazing.

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    14. Re:PuTTY by cscx · · Score: 4, Funny

      Boo hoo. The registry is awesome! Reason? HKEY_CURRENT_USER is part of your roaming profile. Everything is hierarchicaly stored within it. If you ever want to transfer settings, just export a .REG file (a standard text file - be careful though, WinXP exports to Unicode text by default) and re-import it whereever you want.

      Plus, the registry keeps your home directory free from dot-file clutter. Or INI file clutter, in this case.

      Simply put, Registry >> INI files.

    15. Re:PuTTY by VC · · Score: 1

      And a web browser obviously.. ;-)

    16. Re:PuTTY by FyRE666 · · Score: 2

      I fully agree - I've recommended PuTTY to several people and they all came back to tell me how great it was! Mind you, these were all programmers/geeks so I'll admit it's probably not a family orientated tool.

      PuTTY is probably the third-most used tool on my WindowsXP machine, after the web browser and text editor...

    17. Re:PuTTY by j3110 · · Score: 2

      It also supports SCP (called pscp) and key based authentication. Add to this weirdx and X11 forwarding, and you have a great X solution. (WeirdX requires some configuration usually.)

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    18. Re:PuTTY by billd · · Score: 1

      Thanks pal. I've been looking for a win SSH client.

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    19. Re:PuTTY by thumperward · · Score: 1

      Nah, that's part of the operating system, remember? the two are one and the same :)

      (says he, who is using Phoenix but can still access IE easily despite Service Pack 1 being installed, IE being set to 'totally and utterly hidden, blocked from the end user and just not there any more', and me having manually deleted c:\progra~1\intern~1\ )

      - Chris

    20. Re:PuTTY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tried it, then tried SecureCRT, and never went back to putty.

    21. Re:PuTTY by Yohahn · · Score: 2

      Throw in filezilla

    22. Re:PuTTY by Metrol · · Score: 5, Funny

      I start fourth year of a degree course in computer science in just over a week, and I'm scared of Telnet.

      I cannot begin to tell you how pleased I am to hear this about my future competition in the job market. What kind of wine do your professors like? I feel like I owe them something!

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    23. Re:PuTTY by thumperward · · Score: 1

      What I lack in competence I make up for in cunning, however. Anyway, I've decided I'm either going to be an astronaut or a Nintendo(1) playtester, both of which seem like fun jobs which don't require telnet.

      - Chris

      (1) I am not affiliated in any way with Nintendo Of America, Inc.

    24. Re:PuTTY by Stephen+Chadfield · · Score: 1

      I couldn't get PuTTY to draw slrn's arrows correctly. Reverted back to CRT.

    25. Re:PuTTY by trash+eighty · · Score: 1

      actually a lot of non-geek people have to use telnet for mail or even net BBSes (such as monochrome so for the sake of a few K i think such a tool is a good idea on this CD.

    26. Re:PuTTY by hkmwbz · · Score: 2
      So how do I keep the registry from growing and growing and growing because apps don't clean up after themselves?

      Or is it not actually a problem?

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    27. Re:PuTTY by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 3, Insightful
      As someone who has finished his computer science degree over 3 years ago, I can tell you I'm scared of Telnet too.
      But definately not for the same reason as you. I don't want Skr1pt K1dd13z sniffing my passwords, and that's what I use ssh for. If you are a CS (or will becoming one), remember: the CLI is your friend. When I was at University, we learned how to use Unix, and we *liked* it. Again: the CLI is your friend.

      Every machine on my home network has PuTTY, but just so that I can use it to admin our network server. My family (non-geeks) don't use it. I don't even use PuTTY much either, since my iBook has ssh built-in.

      PuTTY doesn't belong on the CD this guy tries to make, but OpenOffice, Mozilla, The GIMP, CDEx most certainly do. Just wondering: is there an opensource media player for Windows? That would be a good one in the list.

    28. Re:PuTTY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      It's not just a problem, it's effin' annoying to boot. You might want to give RegClean a try.

    29. Re:PuTTY by Karamchand · · Score: 1

      Though putty is great & complete sometimes you only need a simple telnet client - use dtelnet for this task. It's just one small executable and worked very fine for me. Special extra: Proxy support (SOCKS & HTTP)

    30. Re:PuTTY by cetan · · Score: 1

      No, what you know are users that should be using ssh but don't understand why plaintext passwords are a problem. Everyone has a need for better security, most just don't know they're not secure to begin with.

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    31. Re:PuTTY by Hooya · · Score: 5, Funny

      no shit. i was in my (graduate) class and one guy goes "what's telnet?" ... and i think to myself.. what a wonderful world...

    32. Re:PuTTY by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 1

      IIRC, mplayer has a windows port. I may be wrong, though.

    33. Re:PuTTY by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 1

      Spreaking of which, I never can get the arrow keys and home/end keys to work properly in putty with linux. How do I configure it?

    34. Re:PuTTY by Timex · · Score: 1

      I use PuTTY at home. when i had reason to bring it along to another site, i copied the necessary files onto a floppy and used that. it worked like a CHAMP! :)

      I won't go anywhere without it now.

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    35. Re:PuTTY by berzerke · · Score: 2

      Putty is nice, and I use it regularly, but it's tunneling sucks. Never did get smb tunneling working until I used a different windows ssh client. (Of course, after trying it over a wan, I gave up on that idea.)

      On a different note, I've found winscp to be an excellent compliment to putty. It's a graphical front end for scp. Great for secure file transfers (unlike ftp where the password passes in the clear), and should be supported everywhere ssh is.

    36. Re:PuTTY by alienmole · · Score: 2
      I've got bad news for you. Your real future competition in the job market is not currently reading Slashdot, let alone posting to it.

      You ain't never gonna see 'em coming!

    37. Re:PuTTY by n3bulous · · Score: 2

      PuTTY is awesome, but for the command line challenged, try this:

      WinSCP

      I discovered it for my boss yesterday.

      (Discovered in the Columbus meaning, anyway...)

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    38. Re:PuTTY by cascadefx · · Score: 2
      Plus, the registry keeps your home directory free from dot-file clutter. Or INI file clutter, in this case.

      Simply put, Registry >> INI files.

      Ha! dot-files aren't easily corrupted, they can be opened with anything, they can be examined on or off the system easily by support staff, and they only load when called. I am sure I have forgotten many more advantages over REG files, but don't get me started. As someone else said "obviously you haven't had to move a lot of windows users across platforms." Roaming profiles may take care of that, I'm not sure... but I will give it to you.

      My suggestion: Obviously you have supported a lot of Windows. When the reg file goes, you are screwed. If backups of the files for that specific system aren't available, you are even more screwed. You can't take a user.dat from one system and expect it to work on another. If the system won't boot, you can't get in to edit the file to make it work. You-are-screwed! Yeah, yeah, "you could have exported the Reg file and reimported it." Not likely. Start editing that REG file by hand and you've got problems... especially if it is a really large chunk of one of the .dat files.

      Now, if user.dat and system.dat were actually seperated, I'd feel a lot better about them, but they are not. You can't use one without the other. I can't load one and expect it to work if major errors occur in the other. No individual editing capabilities.

      Now dot files. I can do anything with them. I can hand edit them. I can put useful comments in them and not effect execution. I can take a file from one system and it will most likely work on the next. If nothing else, I can edit them with a million different applications and/or setup scripts.

      REG files? Please...

    39. Re:PuTTY by Rich0 · · Score: 5, Funny
      I start fourth year of a degree course in computer science in just over a week, and I'm scared of Telnet.

      I cannot begin to tell you how pleased I am to hear this about my future competition in the job market.

      Competition?

      He'll end up being your boss...

    40. Re:PuTTY by gnugnugnu · · Score: 1

      You should be scared of Telnet, it sends everything in plaintext including your password.
      you should definately be using some sort of SSH (secure shell) instead such as putty and if you are going to use SSH you should probably use SCP (secure copy), WinSCP is a particularly nice frontend to Scp and yes it is open source too.

    41. Re:PuTTY by ChaosDiscord · · Score: 2
      HKEY_CURRENT_USER is part of your roaming profile. Everything is
      hierarchicaly stored within it. If you ever want to transfer settings, just
      export a .REG file ... and re-import it whereever you want.


      While it's a nice theory, it fails in practice. Perhaps if every machine
      you roam between is configured identically with the same operating system and
      the same software installed in the same locations, moving HKEY_CURRENT_USER
      around might work. Not all information you will want to carry from
      machine to machine is is in HKEY_CURRENT_USER. Want your file associations?
      They're in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT. Some program settings? HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. (In
      theory programs shouldn't save information there, in practice too many do
      because most Windows user have read/write access to the entire registry.) Paths
      in the registry will almost universally be absolute, so they fail if your home
      directory moves (c:\WinNT\users\bob.smith vs c:\Documents and
      Settings\bob.smith). Importing your full HKEY_CURRENT_USER has a good chance
      of clobbering important settings on a new machine. Exporting specific chunks
      to minimize this risk (and avoid bringing along useless settings) is a
      significant pain. Like the rest of the registry it's easy for
      HKEY_CURRENT_USER to become full of old cruft from programs you no longer use.

      Storing your settings in program specific files makes it easier to pick and
      chose which ones to take with you. Given a sane system where all programs
      assume they can only write to your home directory (say, any Unix-like system),
      you can be confident that a tarball of your home directory contains every
      tweak, change, and option you've selected.

      The registry is a nice idea, but in practice it turns into an unportable
      mess. The registry is a big part of the reason why many Windows users
      reinstall every year or so, "so it works better."

    42. Re:PuTTY by dotgod · · Score: 1

      Yeah if they're doing a remote login, sure they should use ssh instead of telnet. The thing is that your average computer user does not use telnet OR ssh and has no need for either one.

    43. Re:PuTTY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah and we all love it when installing a new version of Acrobat Reader requires a reboot!!!

    44. Re:PuTTY by PissingInTheWind · · Score: 1

      Ouch. Sad but true. Damnit...

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    45. Re:PuTTY by ichimunki · · Score: 1

      If they do any amateur web development they might be doing FTP, in which case it would be better for them to have scp as option via ssh... assuming the hosting server can handle it.

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    46. Re:PuTTY by fetta · · Score: 1

      I used to use PuTTY, but found it became unstable after 30-45 minutes of heavy tunneling (web proxy, VNC, SMTP, IMAP, etc).

      The problem might be related to my connection, but when I switched over to using the SSH version that comes with Cygwin everything became much more stable. Again, I think that my connection is a factor, but the Cygwin version of SSH was much more tolerant and stable under the same conditions.

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    47. Re:PuTTY by TKinias · · Score: 1

      dotgod wrote:

      Sorry, but I don't know too many non-geeks who have a need for an ssh/telnet client.

      We have a few (non-geek) faculty who telnet to Solaris boxes to use Pine for e-mail. They've been doing it since that was the only thing the IT dept. supported, and it still works for them. (Oh, and they can't get Outlook viruses ;^) A history professor is typically the farthest you'll get from a computer geek.

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    48. Re:PuTTY by Electrum · · Score: 2

      Special extra: Proxy support (SOCKS & HTTP)

      Try the development snapshot of PuTTY. It has proxy support for both of those.

    49. Re:PuTTY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Defiantly a manager in the making - incompetent, and cunning with unrealistic goals and copyright infringement disclaimers.

      Wow.

    50. Re:PuTTY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude I graduated with people whom (as far as I could tell) couldn't even compile a C program, and could barely find their way around Turbo Pascal.

    51. Re:PuTTY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no shit about this: At my school the teachers always say "make sure your program runs on rainbow, or you get an F", aka rainbow.***.edu --yay, it's a linux box! So, here I am in my senior level class and the guy in front me goes: "I hate that stupid program called rainbow. Haven't been able to find it anywhere for download in 4 years!"

      The best though was when a junior transferred to our school from a MS school, and he was using pico across the terminal and didn't get syntax highlighting. He said: "I hate that stupid thing, it's written in C so you don't get cool stuff like syntax highlighting." After class, our teacher said that if he had the power, he woulda sent that kid back to 6th grade.

    52. Re:PuTTY by phorm · · Score: 2

      Which is still to some extent good. You can do your coding, put in a little technological mystery... nobody will know that you actually finished that important piece of software 2 weeks ago, and have just been reading slashdot since.

      Of course, having a boss that knows how hard your work is can be quite nice. Sometimes it can lead to bonuses or other incentives, other times it's just nice to have somebody say "I know you did a lot of hard work on this and I appreciate it" - and they actually do know...

      And then you get the type that *think* they know what you're doing, and make really dumb suggestions that drive you really insane. You can't really say "no sir, I'm sure that would have worked on your gr12 visual basic adding program, but in this case it's just an idiotic idea."

      My bosses leave the coding to me, and I write reports on what I've done. They know enough that they're not annoying, and not so much that they're obstructive... it's a nice solution. Having somebody who's partially educated as a boss would be scary indeed...

      A little knowledge can really screw things up - phorm

    53. Re:PuTTY by euripedes · · Score: 1

      You think that's bad...

      I work for a medium sized university that got their main box hacked a year ago. While helping the sys-admin rebuild everything I told him to disable telnet on the machine and tell the users to use SSH. You can't imagine the look on my face when he said... "What's SSH?"

      sigh

    54. Re:PuTTY by devnullify · · Score: 1

      Tried it, then tried SecureCRT. Never went back to SecureCRT (not to mention it costs $$ and is not open source).

  11. The Gimp! by dilute · · Score: 0, Redundant

    How about a really superb graphics program?

  12. A few ideas. by cadillactux · · Score: 4, Insightful
    These are a few of the ones I like.

    FreeeCiv
    OpenOffice
    and WinGimp
    I would love to hear more from everyone else.

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    1. Re:A few ideas. by fault0 · · Score: 2

      Quake1 or Quake2, or perhaps a derivation such as QuakeForge

    2. Re:A few ideas. by Proc6 · · Score: 1

      Oh I totally agree... OpenOrifice.com... oh wait, you said for the family. NEVERMIND.

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    3. Re:A few ideas. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WinGimp charges $24.95 and there's no mention of downloading or of the GPL that I see. I suggest getting a GPL-compliant version from:

      www.gimp.org

    4. Re:A few ideas. by cadillactux · · Score: 1

      Ah scratch that, my mistake, the site is www.wingimp.org. The other site just sells WinGimp CD's. The .ORG site has a GPL-compliant version on it.

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    5. Re:A few ideas. by ChaosDiscord · · Score: 2
      I love having access to the GIMP for Windows when I'm stuck on a Windows box. My decidedly non-technical reporter friend who uses Photoshop to clean up photos for newspapers found the GIMP to be every bit as usable and capable as Photoshop for her needs. (Some graphic artists and other sorts will probably be horrified to discover that many newspapers have never bothered with "color correction" or "48 bit images", yet manage to reproduce fine images in their papers.)

      That said, the original porter of the GIMP for Windows makes it available for free. No need to link to a commercial version. Go and get it.

  13. FreeCiv! by leviramsey · · Score: 1

    (n/t)

  14. http://news.com.com/2100-1001-959165.html by __aadhrk6380 · · Score: 1

    Isn't it ironic that these two, umm, articles, hit the same night?

  15. just 650? by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    Good lord use 700/80 disks!

    1. Re:just 650? by Squarewav · · Score: 2

      Its best to use 650 disks for online distribution, older cdr drives don't work with 700 disks and many people use cdrw disks and 650 RW disks ares still the norm

    2. Re:just 650? by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      You have a valid point, but could you point me to a palce that sells 650's anymore?

    3. Re:just 650? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I picked my 650's up at BestBuy about a month ago. They had a fine sized stack of 'em. Now if I had known a month ago what I know now, I would have picked up some of those 700's.

  16. Celestia all the way! by $carab · · Score: 5, Informative

    Celestia has to be some of the most awesome software Ive ever used. You can navigate the cosmos and it looks absolutely incredible! This would be a program I would use to show people how cool OSS is.

    1. Re:Celestia all the way! by jacobito · · Score: 1

      I just downloaded and tried it out. Wow! Thanks for the recommendation.

    2. Re:Celestia all the way! by shuane · · Score: 2, Informative
      Celestia is indeed beautiful :).

      My only word of caution would be that it runs slowly (painfully slow) if you do not have decent graphics hardware and software for it, so it may not be the perfect choice for the Golden disk...

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    3. Re:Celestia all the way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      have you heard of Orbiter Free Space Simulator?
      http://www.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/~martins/ orbit/downlo ad.html

  17. Is GIMP suitable for this project? by Plug · · Score: 1, Informative

    As someone who uses Photoshop now and then, I can't get the GIMP. It all just feels wrong. I'm sure it contains almost all the functionality ('the hard part') of Photoshop, but the UI is so completely different.

    Photoshop's UI is very standard - a single MDI window. How hard would it be to create a GIMP addon/port that replicated Photoshop's interface principles (without going so far that Adobe can sue) - things like having floating toolbars over a background window. Some people might like the GIMP's multiple-parent-window architecture, I'm sure, but most I know are repulsed about it. (It reminds me of Visual Basic 2.0.)

    If you give Windows people GIMP, they will either be used to MS Paint get confused, or be used to Photoshop and get confused. Some people will say "Well, they should be willing to learn something new", but I think that the Windows graphics program paradigm is better, and it's GIMP that needs the change.

    1. Re:Is GIMP suitable for this project? by Spazholio · · Score: 1

      The problem with Photoshop's UI is just that. It's THEIRS. Lame, I know, but didn't they just sue Macromedia for ripping off their UI design (infringing on their patent for tabbed pallettes is what I think it was called)? Scary thing is, Adobe won too. Admittedly, 8 days later, Macromedia won countersuit, and won almost twice what they had to pay out.

      Ah, right, my point. I don't think that if the Gimp changed to using "tabbed pallettes", the creators could weather that kind of litigation.

      Shame is, Adobe DOES have a nice, simplistic layout. Ah well.

    2. Re:Is GIMP suitable for this project? by Plug · · Score: 1

      Even if it doesn't use tabbed UI, then you have the basic little-dialogs on top of a big dialog interface. And make the buttons in the toolbox smaller so we can actually fit the _picture_ on the screen somewhere!

      I would think the interface is common enough that you could get away with it. Perhaps not in the guise of an image editor - this would be done to imitate Photoshop, so it _would_ be copyright infringement - but it would be interesting to see what could be done to fix up the interface from what it is now.

    3. Re:Is GIMP suitable for this project? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you give Windows people GIMP, they will either be used to MS Paint get confused, or be used to Photoshop and get confused. Some people will say "Well, they should be willing to learn something new", but I think that the Windows graphics program paradigm is better, and it's GIMP that needs the change.
      Not necessarely, Im slowly moving towards getting my mother off windows, and im doing it by installing various alternative OSS apps on her box. It took her less than a day to embrace The Gimp, and now she doesnt even have photoshop installed, (she has also given up IE in favor of mozilla, and is messing a bit with OpenOffice now, but thats going a little slower -lack of good spell checker is a complaint there. I'm also looking for some kind of DTP package for her, if i got that she'd probably be ready to switch in a few months)

    4. Re:Is GIMP suitable for this project? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you gone crazy? Gimp UI is far more
      superior then adobe photoshop. why having
      to move mouse to a other window(parent one)
      to acess menu when you just have to right
      click on the image.

      With a simple right click you have acess to
      every thing. file, filter, tools, dialogs.

      Yes, win32 users are use to ms-pain and
      photoshop. But i am use to the gimp, and
      i can use other gui desing.
      you have no point here.

      Is it suitable for this project? Certainely.
      Gimp is one of the best software avaible in the
      free world. And a faster and more logic GUI
      could only be a good exemple in the badly
      desinged microsoft desktop environement.

      -Bob

    5. Re:Is GIMP suitable for this project? by Metrol · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      If you happen to be on some flavor of *nix, you might want to consider using Fluxbox as your window manager. It lets you connect windows for anything, in much the same way Photoshop does.

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    6. Re:Is GIMP suitable for this project? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux people steal UI designs outright all the time. Just look at LindowsOS; I swear half the icons were ripped right out of Mac OS X! I hope Apple sues the pants off of them.

    7. Re:Is GIMP suitable for this project? by shellbeach · · Score: 1
      As someone who uses Photoshop now and then, I can't get the GIMP. It all just feels wrong. I'm sure it contains almost all the functionality ('the hard part') of Photoshop, but the UI is so completely different.

      Actually, I used Photoshop (v. 4.0) for years before discovering the GIMP, and the GIMP immeadiately became one of the few reasons I'd boot my dual-boot box into Linux. Hell, I'd design windows skins using linux and the GIMP!! I find the interface extremely intuitive and I know where everything is. Photoshop (when I'm forced to use it) I just can't get my brain around. The only advantage of Photoshop is that it can handle CMYK colour in the rare instances I need it, and for that God created Corel Photopaint (free download for linux, although sadly not open source).

    8. Re:Is GIMP suitable for this project? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My 16 year old daughtor finds windows daunting, she tried the gimp for a couple of days, now she loves it. She had me install it on all 3 of our windows computers so that she can use it for her graphics projects wherever she sits down. the 'difficulty' of the interface is largely a myth. so it doesn't look like microsoft made it. So what! Micorsoft's interfact standard isn't easy either, as anyone who's ever helped a novice knows.

  18. A Java offering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jedit is pretty amazing.

    1. Re:A Java offering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      A Java app? If he wants to convert people to Free Software their first exposure shouldn't be slower than molasses.

    2. Re:A Java offering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck off motherfucker

  19. Does MAME Count? by Malic · · Score: 4, Informative

    The required ROMS make it kind of a gray app. But the full source IS available...

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    1. Re:Does MAME Count? by gpinzone · · Score: 2

      As a matter of fact, there are three roms that you can download legally. Just look on the official MAME homepage.

  20. bastard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that is my idea. I own it. I sue you now.

    under the DMCA biatch. its mine. cease and desist!

  21. The UW BioStat StatCD does that for Statistics by eddelbuettel · · Score: 1

    Have a look at the U of Washington Biostat StatCD which puts Xemacs, R, Ghostscript, a LaTeX implementation and a ton of other things, incl. Cygwin, onto two cds.

  22. Web Server Tools by ICA · · Score: 1

    Don't forget good old Apache/Perl/PHP. Just in case they want to publish their own website or whatever.

    A good way to convince them not to install Microsoft IBS(Internet Bug Server).

    1. Re:Web Server Tools by cscx · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      IIS/ASP/ODBC rips Apache/Perl/PHP a new asshole... _if_ configured properly and securely.

      Plus, the same old song and dance is getting old, now that Apache has its own share of bugs and worms.

    2. Re:Web Server Tools by Karamchand · · Score: 1

      Please tell me of those "share of bugs and worms" and don't forget that the slapper thingy is not an Apache bug..

    3. Re:Web Server Tools by cscx · · Score: 2

      You wanna talk Clinton-style?

      Don't forget that CodeRed thingy is not an IIS bug -- it's an Index Server bug.

    4. Re:Web Server Tools by Karamchand · · Score: 1

      I didn't even mention IIS, I didn't want a comparrison - but it's ok if you're out of arguments.

  23. Why not 700MB worth of solid gold? by bc90021 · · Score: 1

    Certainly you should go all out and use a 700MB/80Minute CD and get them all the software they can handle!! ;)

    1. Re:Why not 700MB worth of solid gold? by NaCh0 · · Score: 1

      Oh, by the subject of your post I thought you were suggesting a pr0n CD.

    2. Re:Why not 700MB worth of solid gold? by Omega996 · · Score: 1

      maybe watersports?

    3. Re:Why not 700MB worth of solid gold? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was already a post mentioning 700MB. Please read posts before you post. There's already too much content and not enough context on the Internet

  24. For your IRC friends. by reaper20 · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:For your IRC friends. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      XChat? Fetch one of the more-stable Win32 builds of KVirc 3.0.0. It beats the hell out of mIRC because it's simply more practical to use (say unlimited number of servers per instance) and looks just sooooo cool (might be the best-looking Qt App I've ever seen). Most Windows people I showed it went like "oooooooh" and "aaaaaah"... =))

  25. FreeCiv by E-Rock-23 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm pretty sure there's a FreeCiv client for Windoze. That way, when they make the switch (we can hope, right?), they'll have a little something familiar to jump into and play with...

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  26. Crossing Lines by Murdock037 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think the fact that it's open source is what's going to keep your family away from Linux. It probably has more to do with the fact that, for the unititiated, Linux can be confusing as hell.

    My computer usage is pretty much limited to games, web browsing, office work, and some image and video editing for school. I'm all for the idea of open source-- Mozilla's my browser of choice-- but installing and configuring Linux is beyond me. And I'm 20, so I've been using computers for about half my life.

    In short, open source isn't the roadblock to Linus usage. Just a thought.

    1. Re:Crossing Lines by senor_burt · · Score: 1

      Good one.

      I'm using Linux, and am a developer (been a geek years, recent Unix convert), and despite that, still had a bitch of a time migrating to Linux. Maybe it was the paucity of driver support (lack of adequate network printing & sound support kept me back).

      But, I'm still a believer. OSS is the way to go.

    2. Re:Crossing Lines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're absolutely right.

      The real roadblock to Linus usage is his wife. And rightfully so! Would you want some crazy coder chicks mackin' on your Penguin-loving man?

    3. Re:Crossing Lines by Mattcelt · · Score: 1

      I agree that OSS isn't really the issue, but I think the point in this particular question is a little different.

      If the family members can get used to using these applications under Windows, then when the techie guy moves them to an OS OS, they will more accepting of the 'new' environment b/c most of their apps will work the same.

      I can see the commercial now...

      [Scene of a computer desk in a cozy room filles with knitting needles, knitting material, and pictures of children and presumably grandchildren. A middle-aged woman walks into the room and sits down at the computer.]
      {announcer whispering}"This morning we've switched Mom's regular high-priced gourmet desktop with the new "KDE Windows-Flavored Desktop". Let's see if she notices a difference. Look, she's using her favorite open-source email client and word processor..." {slightly louder} "Yes, she seems to be enjoying it, the same great flavor she's used to - but without all the [DRM] additives and [monopoly] preservatives."
      [Cut to announcer.]
      {in normal voice}"Yes, now you too can enjoy the rich, full featured ambiance of that expensive desktop you've been using, [Cut to woman happily typing away. ] but without paying gourmet prices. Try the new and improved Open Source Software today!"
      [Fade to black.]

      (My apologies to anyone who isn't old enough to remember old coffee commercials.)

    4. Re:Crossing Lines by trib · · Score: 1

      Ain't that the truth. While I've been (at 34) involved with computers of some sort since I was 12 (my junior high had the first Vic-20s and Apple IIs in our town), Linux is a roadblock for me.

      While I very much would like to make the transition, there are factors, tools and apps I use often that are stopping me:

      • my general unfamiliarity with Linux and the unavailability of a spare machine to set it up on
      • what bloody distro should I use?
      • my ridiculously big-assed .pst file
      • the few games I play
      • the IDE I use (Dreamweaver MX) for ColdFusion/JSP development
      • Quicken doesn't run in Linux (and boy, I am so shit at money management I NEED Quicken to even know what I have in the bank)

      If I could find viable solutions to these issues, I'd de-Window my notebook in a flash! I'd leave the Win98 PC set up for my wife and daughter, as they are quite happy living in Window-land.

      Trib

    5. Re:Crossing Lines by jalilv · · Score: 1

      If you just want to get familiar with GNU/Linux then try a CD based distro like Knoppix. Just pop in the CD and restart the machine to boot from CD-ROM drive. It works like a charm and comes with ton of software (almost anything you can think of) in every category. Play around with it and see how you like it. I use it (even run Apache, Squid and other stuff) and I love it (no, I don't work for them or anything). Once you are ready to take the next step and install GNU/Linux on your hard drive you can try Debian (Kmoppix is based on Debian), Mandrake, ELX for starters. They have most user friendly installation and configuration.

      - Jalil Vaidya

    6. Re:Crossing Lines by Creedo · · Score: 1

      my general unfamiliarity with Linux and the unavailability of a spare machine to set it up on


      Dual boot. Grab a copy of Partition Magic, or your favorite OSS partition shrinker, and install away.


      what bloody distro should I use?


      Install a few, and see which one you like. Redhat, Suse and Mandrake for the easy installs. Debian, Gentoo or Slackware after that.

      my ridiculously big-assed .pst file

      Don't know what this is...

      the few games I play

      Dual boot.

      the IDE I use (Dreamweaver MX) for ColdFusion/JSP development

      Dual boot or vmware.

      Quicken doesn't run in Linux (and boy, I am so shit at money management I NEED Quicken to even know what I have in the bank)

      Try GnuCash. Or I believe Quicken runs under Wine now...

      --
      All that is necessary for the triumph of good is that evil men do nothing.
  27. Some other important Apps by Packets · · Score: 3, Informative
    These are mostly server orientated - but they're free, and compile on windows: Apache, PHP and MySQL.

    Also a very addictive game called crack attack, which runs on windows and linux, and is under the GPL:
    Crack Attack

    Other things that you should consider include Python and PyGame (don't forget SDL as well!).

    [x]Chat runs under windows (native), and is the only irc I'd consider using (beats the hell out of mirc).

    Putty is an open source ssh/telnet client. Its possibly the best telnet client for use under windows. Then again, could anything be worse than C:\Windows\Telnet.exe ?

    I've probably missed quite a few good ones, but these are things I seriously like.

    --
    A little overkill never hurt anybody.
    1. Re:Some other important Apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crack Attack rules!!! My wife and I are extrememly addicted.... she racked up a high score of over 1800 just a few days ago. We got started on it from SuSe Pro 8.0, and now we're using the Win32 version. DEFINATELY don't forget this one.

  28. Kmeleon by Fuzzle · · Score: 0

    Kmeleon http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/ the 0.65 beta is really nice.

    1. Re:Kmeleon by fault0 · · Score: 2

      I'd have to put in a vote for k-meleon too. The beta is very nice. And a true windows interface unlike moz/phoenix.

    2. Re:Kmeleon by ted_nugent · · Score: 1

      Looks like development was halted a year ago.

      --

      Free the West Memphis Three!

    3. Re:Kmeleon by ted_nugent · · Score: 1

      Doh! Sorry - didn't see that there is indeed a closed, but active beta.

      --

      Free the West Memphis Three!

  29. Who needs ProTools... by Crapflooder+Supreme · · Score: 1

    when you've got Audacity!

    --
    "Don't worry, it's not loaded." --Terry Kath
    1. Re:Who needs ProTools... by ActiveSX · · Score: 1

      Who needs ProTools...

      Umm, well, Pros?

    2. Re:Who needs ProTools... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excellent, why haven't I heard of this program before? I've been looking for a replacement for the old Windows Program Cool Edit. I've never been able to find a decent Linux tool to do the same kind of thing.

      Thanks for the tip.

    3. Re:Who needs ProTools... by cbcbcb · · Score: 1

      Audacity is terrible.

      I used it the other day and I couldn't make it do anything useful. It wouldn't import raw audio files (they were too short and it wouldn't let me tell it what format they were), I couldn't figure out how to downmix from stereo to mono, or how to reduce the sample rate.

      Admittedly, CoolEdit has some of these problems too

    4. Re:Who needs ProTools... by CoughDropAddict · · Score: 2

      I couldn't figure out how to downmix from stereo to mono

      From the stereo track's menu, choose "split stereo track." Then change both tracks to mono. Then select Project->Quick Mix.

      or how to reduce the sample rate.

      Audacity doesn't do resampling in 1.0. This feature exists in the the 1.1 development branch.

      Josh Haberman, Audacity developer

  30. PySol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't say enough about this gem! My all-time favorite Solitaire package. MUST be included!

    1. Re:PySol by thumperward · · Score: 1

      Are you aware that there isn't a Windows build mentioned anywhere on the site?

      - Chris

  31. virtualdub by motardo · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:virtualdub by calags · · Score: 1

      I second the motion!

      Now if only there was a Linux version...

      --
      Never attribute to stupidity what can be construed as a monopoly preservation tactic.
    2. Re:virtualdub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. No Question. Virtualdub (also located at http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net) is by far easiest- to-use video capture/video editting program I have ever seen - and I have used Premiere, Videowave, VideoStudio and MediaStudioPro. But the sheer ease of use, stability and simplicity of Virtualdub makes it my video editor of choice for all everyday tasks.

      The main reason I haven't gone over to linux full time is that this program hasn't been ported to it yet!

    3. Re:virtualdub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heck yes. I use this every day and love it. This is a great tool for converting family videos, old Betamax tapes, etc. to formats that can play on a PC or DVD player.

      Be sure to include some open source codecs to use with it, like Huffyuv and xVid. VCDEasy (along with GNUVCDImager and cdrdao) is also a must.

  32. Sounds like by jchawk · · Score: 1, Troll

    Hi, I'm putting together a cd of free software that I plan on selling on ebay. I'm lazy and I don't want to actually do any leg work, so please slashdot, make me a quick dollar and tell me about some good *free* software that I can sell on my 10,000 programs for windows for 99 cents.

    Oh and if you're interesed you can find the listing at . . .

    hehe

    1. Re:Sounds like by Boiotos · · Score: 2

      10,000 disks at 99 cents per in my books would be a worse way to make a living than my day job which, if you follow the link from my nick, you will find consists in teaching ancient history to fantastic university students and researching computing and history. Still, if they don't give me tenure it might make a good backup plan :-)

    2. Re:Sounds like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you're right on the money, and not a troll.

      Sad the whole /. community fell for it.

    3. Re:Sounds like by static55 · · Score: 0

      heyy.. that was _funny_, not a troll. :) annoying moderators.

    4. Re:Sounds like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if the CD is for EBay... whats the problem? The information should be gathered anyway. I myself am too lasy to gather the links needed, but none the less would like a links listing.

  33. Aggie, a news aggregator by jacobito · · Score: 3

    Aggie is an open source news aggregator. Basically, you give it the URL to your favorite RSS feeds, it downloads and parses them, and then builds a web page with the headlines. The really nice thing about it is that it supports RSS autodiscovery, so in many cases, you can simply provide the URL to the site itself, and it will find the RSS feed for you.

    It does not use the GPL, but its license is considered open source by the OSI definition.

    Another caveat is that it is written in C# and thus requires the .NET framework to run, so it isn't portable to other operating systems (not yet, at least). The upside is that the C# source code is fairly easy to follow, even for a dunce like me.

    1. Re:Aggie, a news aggregator by Thelgar · · Score: 1

      Try Amphetadesk for a very portable open-source news aggregator. Works on Windows/Mac/Linux, straightforward installation, easy to use, pretty much all the same features as Aggie. I think you'll like it even more...

  34. FreeAmp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    FreeAmp plays MP3 and Ogg.

    1. Re:FreeAmp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, FreeAmp is dead.

      The project is now called ZINF.

      http://zinf.sf.net

      Something about copyright over the word "AMP".

    2. Re:FreeAmp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean ZINF (ZINF Is Not FreeAmp)?

    3. Re:FreeAmp by iChild · · Score: 3, Informative

      Free amp is now Zinf (Zinf Is Not FreeA*p!) http://www.zinf.org/
      Getting better al the time:)

  35. FileZilla by DeRobeHer · · Score: 2, Informative

    FileZilla is a fantastic opensource FTP client. There is also a FTP server component, which is just as good. It's much better than any shareware client out there.

    --
    Donald Roeber
    Generating 2048 Bits of Randomness...
    1. Re:FileZilla by JackRuby43 · · Score: 1

      I'll second that. FileZilla is the bomb. Blows away all other Win32 ftp clients.

    2. Re:FileZilla by thumperward · · Score: 1

      Before I switch, could you tell me how it compares to SmartFTP, which as far as I'm concerned is so sexy I would betray Drew Barrymore for it?

      - Chris

    3. Re:FileZilla by pabtro · · Score: 1

      FileZilla rocks!

    4. Re:FileZilla by zero0w · · Score: 1

      Think of it as easy and powerful as Cuteftp, but totally free with a intuitive interface. I agree this is another must-have OSS. http://filezilla.sf.net/

    5. Re:FileZilla by Nile · · Score: 1

      I wish I had moderator points...I would give them to you.

      I would go so far as to say that Filezilla is much better than most -commercial- products.

      -Al

    6. Re:FileZilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should also check out SmartFTP. The best multi-threaded FTP client I've used.

      http://www.smartftp.com

      It is freeware!

  36. Useful tools by TheCabal · · Score: 1

    PuTTy
    OpenSSH
    Snort
    nmapnt
    OpenOffice

    1. Re:Useful tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nullsoft NSIS
      http://www.nullsoft.com/free/nsis/

  37. how about... by RedWolves2 · · Score: 1, Offtopic
  38. Happy Java Orc ;) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its not specific for Win32 but O'Reilly Networks has created a Open Source Java Directory. Java runs fine on Windows :D

    http://www.onjava.com/pub/q/java_os_directory

    Now if there was just a good open source jvm...

  39. Video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    MPlayer!


    Win their porn viewing win their hearts ;)

  40. If you can wait a bit by Boglin · · Score: 2, Informative

    Blender can now go on your list, as they've reached their 100k. It is my impression that the sources should be opened Pretty Soon now. They whole 3d graphics system or game engine may not appeal to Joe Average, but his kids will eat it up. Face it, how many of us originally got into programing so that we could make our own games?

    1. Re:If you can wait a bit by bmwm3nut · · Score: 1

      ZZT taught me object oriented programming before i ever heard of c++.

  41. A few.... by FPhlyer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For the "Windows Only" Software:

    jzip (http://www.bytamin-c.com/Source/) - this is an unzipper, and a great replacement for WinZIP.

    For the Windows and Unix world try:

    Gimp for windows (http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/)

    And don't forget the games!

    The game of Go for windows (http://www.public32.com/games/go/)

    The Windows GNU gaming zone: (http://wggz.sourceforge.net/)

    --
    Brought to you by Frobozz Magic Penguin Fodder.
    1. Re:A few.... by Zathrus · · Score: 1

      Regarding jzip - does it support file formats other than zip? Namely, tar and gzip files?

      There's no indication on the website, none in the history, the readme in the source code docs just says "Support for other archive files" is in the todo list, and a quick grep of the source looks negative.

    2. Re:A few.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks I've been looking for a decent freeware go game for windows however, I followed the links to Jago client from that page and I like it better.
      It's also a Sourceforge project.

    3. Re:A few.... by evilviper · · Score: 2

      Most Free Windows archiving programs only support Zip... While that's the major format, I often run into non-zip archives.

      So, head over to http://www.7-zip.org.
      Not only does it support most major formats, but it's completely LGPLed.

      Additionally, the compression you get with the native 7z format has always been better than bzip2, and better than twice as good in some cases. It comes with a tiny self-extractor in case you want to share files with someone who doesn't have 7-zip yet.

      --
      Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
    4. Re:A few.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's slightly offtopic, in that it's not open source - but it *is* freeware, and has no ads or any crapola like that. It also more closely resembles WinZip.. Ultimate ZIP

    5. Re:A few.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very nice program! I found it a few weeks ago and deleted WinZip two days later.

  42. Religion? by dotgod · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I'm not criticizing here...I'm just curious. Why do so many people think of Open Source Software, namely Linux, as some kind of religion that they have to "convert" people to?

    1. Re:Religion? by Perdition · · Score: 4, Funny

      I see thy doubts, friend, and they ex-POSE thee! Get thee behind me, SATAN, thou foul open grave of proprietary FILTH! I banish thee in the name of TUX! Let not thy infidelity and obfuscation be a stumblin' block to the newly converted, CAN I GET AN AMEN-A!

      Friends, ig-NORE the sireen call of the pay-to-play heathen that lurk in the hedgerows, clinging to the darkness, roaring like a lion, SEEKING WHOM THEY MAY DEVOUR! Open thy hearts, OPEN THY SOURCE! Come to the cleansing fountain of forgiveness from closed-sources. Do not let these Philistines halt thy progress! Come into the LIGHT! COME INTO THE LIIIIIGHT!

      I neeed a nap.

      --
      Windows XP SP2 told me to install third-party software that prevents viruses and protects stability... I chose Ubuntu
    2. Re:Religion? by Sivar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It isn't. Well, not for most people (even Slashdot people). I can't speak for others, but I find it mildly offensive that many people are convinced that Windows is the only way, that with software you get what you pay for, and that if a person cannot afford photoshop or MS Office that they simply cannot edit photos or create documents/presentations/spreadsheets. It is more a matter of educating people, showing them, "See, there is ANOTHER way, and it's better in many respects."
      Others, to a degree myself, are offended by Microsoft's (and other) commercial software company's moral bankruptsy and their screwing of users, and feel morally compelled to at least let others know that they do not have to put up with it. That nobody has to use Microsoft, and that for the most part to not do so involves very little loss and significant gain.
      Some people are just cheap, or truly low on money, and think they must choose between rent and important software. These people can also benefit greatly from OSS if they only knew about it.
      Still other people, such as aspiring programmers, often have a tough time doing any real programming in Windows because it's so damn complex and crufty, and some eventually lose interest and leave for a different interest. Some of these people would also benefit greatly from being able to see the source to their programming tools--how they actually work--rather than reading unnavigable gigabytes of MSDN documentation to find info on how to work around some obscure bug or "feature" in their tools.

      It isn't a religion, it's philanthropy.

      --
      Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. --E. W. Dijkstra
    3. Re:Religion? by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Because most of them are mindless zealots who jump on the M$ sux bandwagon. See how cute it is to say M$ instead of MS? They can't handle any type of criticism and insist linux is the ultimate solution no matter what you're doing. Freedom of choice is alright as long as your choice is linux. I guess they never heard of using the right tool for the right job or as the old saying goes "if it aint broke then don't fix it". Windows is good enough for millions of people to do everyday tasks, why force them to change based only on your opinion?

      --
      Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    4. Re:Religion? by Perdition · · Score: 1

      Well, that holds water as long as we are willing to admit that because one tool is "good enough", then the makers of the "good enough" have some God-given right ro make mediocrity the sole choice in a given market. This is precisely what MS has been accused of (in court), and the very thing that the other "good enoughs" have to battle in various ways. Imagine if we all perpetually settled for the "good enoughs". Now, granted, you have to get off the bus somewhere, and I can see where MS has aided in the computerization of the home and office, but was that for the cause of productivity? Perhaps. Was it for the cause of profit? Definitely. Since the open source movement by its nature lacks the funding and subsequent advertising muscle that money-based software has, the balance must be made up in zeal and excellence. Where Linux lacks in excellence, it tends to catch up in zeal. If you want people to agree with you that Windows is "good enough", you have several million places to go for agreement. If you want to hear what might be better, you're going to have to find a zealot.

      --
      Windows XP SP2 told me to install third-party software that prevents viruses and protects stability... I chose Ubuntu
    5. Re:Religion? by Swampfox · · Score: 1

      Because burning at the stake is frowned on these days, so converting the heathen is the only alternative.

      --
      Swampfox
      Real Hacker (tm) Wanna-be
      Deals
    6. Re:Religion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know, that's like asking Mormons why they have to knock on your door to preach their cultist bullcrap.

    7. Re:Religion? by TheCabal · · Score: 1

      Hey! Let's pretend we're in Bizarro World and we're talking about Linux!

      It isn't. Well, not for most people (even Slashdot people). I can't speak for others, but I find it mildly offensive that many people are convinced that Linux is the only way, that with software you get what you pay for,

      See how well this works?! This is fun!

      Still other people, such as aspiring programmers, often have a tough time doing any real programming in Linux because it's so damn complex and crufty, and some eventually lose interest and leave for a different interest. Some of these people would also benefit greatly from being able to see the source to their programming tools--how they actually work--rather than reading unnavigable gigabytes of manpages, RTFMs, STFWs and HOWTOs documentation to find info on how to work around some obscure bug or "feature" in their tools.

      Strange how the same arguments against Windows can be used against Linux too.

    8. Re:Religion? by phiwum · · Score: 1
      Golly, ain't you clever?

      No, I reckon not. Let's read closely some of the key translated passages.

      Some of these people would also benefit greatly from being able to see the source to their programming tools--how they actually work--rather than reading unnavigable gigabytes of manpages, RTFMs, STFWs and HOWTOs documentation to find info on how to work around some obscure bug or "feature" in their tools.

      Now, a Linux user can "see the source to [his] programming tools," and so is not obliged to rely on included documentation. Moreover, as you point out, there are many sources of documentation for those tools, from HOWTOs to manpages to info pages (of course, with lots of redundant information and not every bit of software is well-documented). The Windows programmer has to rely on whatever documentation MS provides -- because no one else can see the bloody source.

      Oh, wait. I forgot. There's that magnanimous shared source feature. A few others can see the source, but they can't share what they've learned.

      Finally, note that the post you're replying to is not advocating Linux, but open source. So is the featured article. In other words, you're reacting to an argument (everyone should use Linux) that hasn't been made -- at least not here.

      --
      Phiwum's law: anyone that names an obvious law after himself and then puts it in his own sig is just pathetic.
    9. Re:Religion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us are considered "the family geek". We will get the questions, when mom has problems with her computer, and we will get to fix it, when windows just self-destructed. Then why shouldn't we try to install something that we know how to fix? Why should I waste my time trying to solve some problem with windows 98, when I could solve a similar problem under linux in two seconds?

      Nobody says that they have to run windows, if windows was so easy to use, that they didn't need help. But if they want help, I would definitely prefer they use something that I'm familiar with.

      Say, if you drive down to Honda, to get your old Ford repaired, don't you think they would suggest that you get a Honda instead?

    10. Re:Religion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't speak for others, but I find it mildly offensive that many people are convinced that Windows is the only way, that with software you get what you pay for, and that if a person cannot afford photoshop or MS Office that they simply cannot edit photos or create documents/presentations/spreadsheets.

      I also find it offensive that people think that if they cannot afford PhotoShop or Office that they can't edit photos or create documents/presentations/spreadsheets, but for a different reason. Some people have been implying that the function is commercially defined by the most expensive possible product in that category. Why would anyone use PhotoShop, a professional image creation suite, to edit pictures? Talk about massive overkill. But the reaction to this isn't to list the other possible software, rather it is to attack any and all proprietary software for the pricing of one company for the most expensive and professional level suite it has, and then direct the user to a stripped freeware perpetual beta that doesn't even offer the features and functionality that the lowest priced of those suites from possibly other companies can offer. RMS be damned, software is still a commodity that takes talent time and effort to develop.

    11. Re:Religion? by mcjulio · · Score: 1

      testing, please disregard

    12. Re:Religion? by jjsoh · · Score: 1

      Hahahaha.. very good. That made me laugh. Haven't been to a sermon in years, but if they were more like that, I'd think I'd go more often. ;)

    13. Re:Religion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Senor Troll, he was replying to the guy saying how offensive MS was and the people making it their choice in a discussion about Linux being a religion. You're right, none of this topic is OT, but his post was on topic for what it was.

    14. Re:Religion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I figure once they're used to Mozilla and AbiWord under WinXP, a Linux partition would be less daunting.

      How was my initial question off-topic? I was making a reference to the above line, where he talks about doing this as a first step to changing them to linux? Also, why is the parent "off topic", yet one of the replies has been modded up as insightful? I could understand it getting modded back down to +1 when it was at +2 for being "overrated", but why is it considered "offtopic"?

    15. Re:Religion? by TheCabal · · Score: 1

      Now, a Linux user can "see the source to [his] programming tools," and so is not obliged to rely on included documentation.

      Not obliged, but how useful is it? Personally, I don't know C, so being able to view the source code for something really doesn't mean anything to me. Documentation is a standard development process, and it needs to be done and done well. Being able to peer at the source code is no excuse for not documenting properly. I really haven't seen this in many OSS packages yet. OpenSSH, yes. A few others. Most of the other time, it's "Well it works on MY system!" or the obligatory "RTFM|STFW, n00b!" bullshit response.

      Neither of those make up for the ability to see the source code.

      Moreover, as you point out, there are many sources of documentation for those tools, from HOWTOs to manpages to info pages (of course, with lots of redundant information and not every bit of software is well-documented).

      As a Unix friend of mine once said, "manpages suck. they're always wrong". HOWTOs are wildly inaccurate, or written for Redhat 2.45.7x with the mudflaps and cup holder.

      The Windows programmer has to rely on whatever documentation MS provides -- because no one else can see the bloody source.

      All binaries and programming APIs come from Microsoft?! Egad!

  43. GIMP! by sbaker · · Score: 2

    Gotta give 'em GIMP. Better than Photoshop - FREE!

    --
    www.sjbaker.org
    1. Re:GIMP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GIMP, quite unfortunately, is nowhere close to Photoshop on the "pro" end, esp. dealing with high color depths (>24 bpp), CMYK, etc, etc. It has also less color management and other important tools and filters.

      I find GIMP extremely annoying in too many situations.

    2. Re:GIMP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Comeon, anyone with kazaa (150 million downloads), can use Photoshop for free.

    3. Re:GIMP! by sbaker · · Score: 2

      > GIMP, quite unfortunately, is nowhere close to Photoshop on the "pro" end,
      > esp. dealing with high color depths (>24 bpp), CMYK, etc, etc. It has also
      > less color management and other important tools and filters.

      Yes - but:

      1) The original request was specifically *NOT* about professionals.

      2) If you need high precision colours - then use 'FilmGIMP'
      which is good enough to have been used on a number of
      big-name movies for video compositing. Most people don't need
      that.

      > I find GIMP extremely annoying in too many situations.

      Well, that's probable just a case of 'Second Editor Syndrome' - where
      the first thing you learned (presumably Photoshop in your case) always
      sets your expectations - making the second thing seem much worse - even
      though in fact it's only "different".

      I learned GIMP first - QED.

      --
      www.sjbaker.org
  44. VirtuaWin - multiple desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://www.virtuawin.com/

    Fast, free, and source code is available. Kicks butt.

    1. Re:VirtuaWin - multiple desktops by zero0w · · Score: 1

      I agree. This one actually offer decent Virtual Desktop capability for Windows.

  45. Mozilla...hrm...Slightly OT by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 2
    I had the same idea, only I started out smaller: I sent a copy of Mozilla 1.0, Win98 version, to my father to keep him from having to spend $ on a pop-up blocker. Worked fine until he tried to print: crashed horribly, had to reboot five or six times and reinstall his printer drivers.

    Don't get me wrong: I loooooooooooooooooooooove Mozilla (use it on FreeBSD, got 2002090017 build -- latest I could find) and was really hoping to convert him to Mozilla (and then to LInux....mwuahahahahah!) I'm just wondering if anyone else has had similar problems.

    I know this is pretty damned useless as a diagnosis: I work on helpdesk for an ISP, and I always hate it when someone calls and says "My thing doesn't work with my other thing. Why?" I'm just wondering if Mozilla + Printers + Win98 == Kaboom! is a common thing, or just One Of Those Things.

    Anyhow, maybe throw in a copy of K-Meleon, or Ethereal if they want to see what browser everyone else is using :-).

    1. Re:Mozilla...hrm...Slightly OT by FatRatBastard · · Score: 2

      Moz on windows borks out on me occasionally when printing (if I'm doing some heavy stuff). I'm running W2K, which usually is pretty stable, but Moz will take the whole system down (it reboots itself). Fun fun fun.

    2. Re:Mozilla...hrm...Slightly OT by clueless_penguin · · Score: 1
      Works fine for my wife. I put moz 1.0 on her win98 machine and it prints fine to her Epson C80. Perhaps it's a printer driver issue.

      --
      Use the spatula, Luke
    3. Re:Mozilla...hrm...Slightly OT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use Opera. It's not open-source, but damn if it isn't the best browser out there. It blows Mozilla away right now...

    4. Re:Mozilla...hrm...Slightly OT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      I had the same idea, only I started out smaller: I sent a copy of Mozilla 1.0, Win98 version, to my father to keep him from having to spend $ on a pop-up blocker. Worked fine until he tried to print: crashed horribly, had to reboot five or six times and reinstall his printer drivers.


      I have used Mozilla since version 1.0 on Windows 98 and I have an HP720C printer and I haven't had any problems with printing. Was he using an Epson printer or something? I hear that the Epson drivers tend not to play nice.

    5. Re:Mozilla...hrm...Slightly OT by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Same here... at work I need to use Win2K, and I'm posting this from Mozilla, but printing sometimes crashes. Of course, browsing sometimes crashes...

      What's weird is that it'll crash on a page it was previously able to load. So I don't know what the problem is. I always report it, though, and it's not enough to keep me from using it - I like it a lot more than even Opera (if only because I can actually access stupid sites that blocked anything but IE and Netscape).

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    6. Re:Mozilla...hrm...Slightly OT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WFM. I think its your printer drivers. I had fewer problems printing from Mozilla (0.9.X through 1.X) on my Xerox XE90 than I did with M$ Word, and I have had none at all with my Brother MFC8500:-)

    7. Re:Mozilla...hrm...Slightly OT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have my printer setup on another machine which someone in my house likes to turn off. Every time I hit print, and the machine is off, the program that I am using (usually mozilla) will crash.

      In MS Word, I don't even have to print. I just load up word, and if the other machine is turned off it will crash in under a minute. Turn on the computer and the crashing stops. Makes you wonder why the word document is polling the printer while you're typing.

    8. Re:Mozilla...hrm...Slightly OT by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the replies, everyone. I don't know what printer/drivers he's using -- he's 3000km away . Anyhow, at least I've got a bit to go on now.

    9. Re:Mozilla...hrm...Slightly OT by devnullify · · Score: 1

      Umm...How about noooooo... Mozilla rocks Opera in every way. Especially being open source.

  46. CDex = god by mewsenews · · Score: 1

    CDex is the best damn CD ripper I've ever used. Period. It's better than all of the commercial, shareware, freeware, EVERYTHING I've tried.

    It's open source, it doesn't have a *nix version, but it gets even more open source points for having integrated Vorbis encoding (1.0 baby, YEAH!!)

    It gets my vote.

    1. Re:CDex = god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I personally don't like CDex because I use another that allows me to use every Mp3 codec except Mellisa. Just the other day I was ripping a CD that had one particular song that kept getting a reverb and tried various setting in the Lame codec to get rid of it so I switch to the BladeEnc codec and it came out fine. It's not freeware so I won't mention what it is.

      Another CD ripping tool I use is cdromtool.
      When my Yamaha CDRW spins up it sounds like a turboprop airplain engine and it never spins down until you take the disk out of the drive. I use cdromtool to control it's max speed and spindown.
      However I use an older version because the newest version lost the ability to see this particular drive.
      Downloaded Mp3's are ofter mislabeled so I use Mp3 Tag Tool's to change the tags and set file names.
      I also use Audacity but mainly for trimming and splicing Mp3's.
      These three programs can be downloaded at Sourceforge.

  47. One word: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cygwin.

  48. OpenSource DVD Player by sharadpatel · · Score: 1

    An excellent 'free' dvd player VideoLAN.
    The download page is here.
    The win32 binaries (Latest Windows self-installing packages) are here.

    1. Re:OpenSource DVD Player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using VideoLan to play DVD's is like using a chainsaw to open a beer bottle. Use Xine or Mplayer or something.

    2. Re:OpenSource DVD Player by hal4000plus4 · · Score: 1

      But we talk about programs under Win. Mplayer, xine run hardly under win. VideoLan is rune excellent under win/linux.

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      -- crown
  49. how about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  50. Personally... by TheDanish · · Score: 1

    I like filezilla and filezilla server, ZSNES (okay, maybe they don't count... oh, well), VirtualDub, CDex, Dev-C++, UPX (although the last two probably won't apply in this case)... there are a few others but I can't remember right now. Open Office, except they have some pretty annoying bugs.

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    Danish != nationality
  51. TADS, Frotz, and Interactive Fiction by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

    Text-based interactive fiction contains some of the most amazing games ever made, and most are free.

    There are several different IF environments -- TADS and Inform are the most popular, playable by TADS and Frotz, respectively.

    There are many incredible games for both, but two of my favorites are Babel and Toonesia. This type of game loses most of its value if you cheat -- most of the value of the game is in gameplay.

    Give it a shot, and rack your brains...and don't get eaten by a grue.

    1. Re:TADS, Frotz, and Interactive Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Falcon's Eye (graphical nethack) for windows!!!!@!@!

  52. Re:While There is Warmongering by djkitsch · · Score: 1

    Sorry for being a discompassionate b****d, but what does this have to do with OSS?

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  53. Some unixisms? by Sabalon · · Score: 3, Informative

    How about Cygwin? X for Cygwin?

    gcc or djgcc or something to let people do free development for windows - kdevelop ported to Win32?

    vim!!! (though that may not be a good idea for people who have never seen VI

    Does Blender have a win port?

    Apache - how to have a safer web server.

    VNC - for people who want to do work from home (or abuse works high speed connection)

    1. Re:Some unixisms? by glwtta · · Score: 2
      Does Blender have a win port?

      Yes. But it's technically not free yet. The sources "freeing" ceremony (and I believe the first version distributed as source and builds of it) will be Sunday October 13th. Incidentally, I'll be there in Amsterdam for it. :)

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    2. Re:Some unixisms? by FPhlyer · · Score: 1

      Read the original story.
      He's looking for software less technical then Cygwin... for use by "ordinary users." These are people who never even use Windows Notepad, so they aren't going to need Vim... or a compiler... or a webserver. And VNC is just another open port for would-be attackers.

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    3. Re:Some unixisms? by snake_dad · · Score: 2

      Make it TightVNC, so you'll have compression on the datastream.

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      karma capped .sig seeking available Slashdot poster for long-term relationship.
    4. Re:Some unixisms? by Sabalon · · Score: 2

      But if he is trying to show people the value of open source, then vnc would be great. See...with this open source program you can now access you machine remotely. For free.

    5. Re:Some unixisms? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great idea. I also think that Cygwin, gcc, apache and vim are the "best" OS software for the family. Actualy, my sixty years old mother is now near me sending an e-mail with emacs :)

  54. GAIM - tabbed conversations by mgkimsal2 · · Score: 2

    I hadn't been a GAIM fan before, but there is a Win32 port out (not perfect), but it does have the tabbed conversation window thing going on, which may impress those used to standard AIM interface. If you've got a couple spare meg, toss it on. :)

    1. Re:GAIM - tabbed conversations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blah - Trillian is king of Windows chat, and it's free!

      My other choices: LeechFTP for FTP, WinAMP (better than freeamp, there are zillions of free plugins), Cloudmark's Spamnet spam filter.

    2. Re:GAIM - tabbed conversations by slamb · · Score: 2
      I hadn't been a GAIM fan before, but there is a Win32 port out (not perfect), but it does have the tabbed conversation window thing going on, which may impress those used to standard AIM interface. If you've got a couple spare meg, toss it on. :)

      Please don't. The Trillian users' complaints about WinGAIM are legitimate. I've tried it and it completely ignores the Windows human resource guidelines. It doesn't even use the right background color. It's horrible. This will represent gaim poorly (I like it on Linux) and represent open source poorly. Maybe in a few revisions...

    3. Re:GAIM - tabbed conversations by jx100 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but we're going for OSS software, here. Trillian and Winamp (and possibly those 2 others) aren't OSS, just free (as in beer).

  55. It is not buggy. by thumperward · · Score: 1

    The last three or four betas (don't blame me for the versioning) have been rock solid. CDex 1.50 beta 7 is the best CD ripper Windows has, by a long chalk.

    - Chris

  56. How about... by djupedal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...throwing in the SUSE demo that runs from CD. This way they can do more than just wonder, and it won't involve reworking their HD in the process. After all, the goal is to get them off Windows, not make them so comfortable they'll stay.

    Or is this some ploy from another MS shill, looking for ideas, and/or converts to drink yet more of the kookaid....

  57. dia by ibirman · · Score: 3, Informative
    Not nearly as complete as Visio, but it gets the job done nicely and saves in an open xml based format to boot. Does not crash as much as Visio either and sure costs less.

    The home page is at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/

    1. Re:dia by dolmen.fr · · Score: 1

      The Win32 version seems to be here : http://dia-installer.sourceforge.net/

      However I've not tested it.

  58. VNC by NineNine · · Score: 1

    Anyone who's ever used it has got to agree. It's just that simple.

    1. Re:VNC by kalislashdot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Mod parent up. VNC is very useful. I used it to shut down all the computers in the house at night right from my computer, no need to walk around to each one.

    2. Re:VNC by Kelt · · Score: 1

      NO!!!!

      VNC is no longer supported by bell labs.
      VNC has no encryption, so anyone can sniff yer packets away.
      VNC has some good security holes in it.

      -Kelt

      --
      My intelligence insults itself.
    3. Re:VNC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, TIGHTVNC would be even better.
      www.tightvnc.com

      VNC plus good compression over the wire. Yum.

    4. Re:VNC by hogger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      TightVNC is a much better choice. It offers compression, and is much faster.

      If you're concerned about security, then don't open the VNC ports up to the Internet. Install cygwin, install openssh, run it as a service, and ssh to the windows box and tunnel the VNC ports through ssh.

    5. Re:VNC by Sleeper+Service · · Score: 1

      VNC is now supported by RealVNC Ltd.

  59. What about Opera? by Spazholio · · Score: 1

    I know you mentioned getting them used to Mozilla, but Opera's a damned good browser too (personally, I think it's better, but hey, that's just me). And the Win32 version and linux version are damned near identical.

    1. Re:What about Opera? by bjtuna · · Score: 1

      Opera is closed-source.

    2. Re:What about Opera? by Spazholio · · Score: 1

      My mistake. I read "Open Source" as "things that run on linux". Won't happen again. =)

    3. Re:What about Opera? by Boltronics · · Score: 1

      I'm sure you must mean GNU/Linux. ;)

      --
      It's GNU/Linux dammit!
    4. Re:What about Opera? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Opera is the best browser I've ever used. Mozilla, IMO, is pretty crappy. It takes up tons of memory. It shouldn't be an open-source CD. It should be a non-Microsoft CD.

  60. Don't forget the games! by jvmatthe · · Score: 5, Informative
    Although they're not always "easy to set up", they might be decent examples of what can be done. The ones I've included on a CD of free software for friends include:

    I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting, but that's a good start. Hopefully other posters will list their faves...
    1. Re:Don't forget the games! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      winscp

    2. Re:Don't forget the games! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just looking at everything +3 or better and really can't believe that nobody's recommended Possible Worlds yet - a very cool submarine 3D OpenGL game.

      It could seriously use some additional development for anyone else out there with time on their hands and an interest, but a fun and very playable game as it sits.

    3. Re:Don't forget the games! by CvD · · Score: 1

      Next to the ones listed above, these are some of my favs:

      - GLTron, 3D lightcycle game
      - Parsec, 3D space shooter (no single player mode, though)
      - Crack Attack!, based on SNES Tetris Attack.

      Cheers,

      Costyn.

    4. Re:Don't forget the games! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ivan.sourceforge.net

    5. Re:Don't forget the games! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exult is definately something you want to have in. It works on Windows as well as it does on Linux and it's not far, really not far, from a 1.0 release.

      There are many enhancements from the orignal U7 engine, like paperdoll support for BG and an incredible list of cool other things.

      The only thing is that you need to own a copy of Ultima 7 to play it, since the plot, the data files and everything else is copyrighted.

      Beside this, there even is an clean installer for it and you could pitch in ExultStudio to make your own u7-feeling-to-it games.

      http://exult.sf.net

      Artaxerxes

    6. Re:Don't forget the games! by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 1

      Lbreakout2 !!

      Breakout clone with support for 2 players!

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      ^_^
    7. Re:Don't forget the games! by richardneish · · Score: 1

      You gotta love Maelstrom. A Windows port of a Linux port of a Macintosh port (of an arcade game?). I first played this on a very early PowerMac, then played the Linux version several years later, then finally played the Windows port this year.

    8. Re:Don't forget the games! by Rysc · · Score: 1

      Let us not forget bzflag.

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      I want my Cowboyneal
    9. Re:Don't forget the games! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chromium BSU [reptilelabour.com] - neat-o OpenGL 2D shooter



      I always did want to shoot some of the members of the Baptist Student Union at my school... or maybe that game's about a BSU that's really 1337 and carries guns?
    10. Re:Don't forget the games! by curunir · · Score: 2

      While we're talking about games...

      FCEU is a great GPL'd NES emulator. For anyone who grew up playing those 8-bit NES games, this is a must.

      --
      "Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!"
  61. PHP Edit by friedmud · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even though it isn't for linux - it is GPL and therefor OSS.

    http://www.phpedit.net/

    Quite a good prog - even though I dont use windows anymore.

    Beyond that Quanta is a great program that does the same stuff - but for linux.

    Derek

  62. Here are my nominees... by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

    I propose a CD with stuff like Photoshop, Premiere, Visual Studio...oh, you said free...sorry...

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  63. Virtual Dub by captaineo · · Score: 2

    Virtual Dub rules. If you do any work with video on Windows, it is essential.

    Virtual Dub is much more stable and its interface is much more streamlined than most other free software. Plus it has probably the most robust AVI read/write code ever offered. Out-of-spec files that crash other video programs, Virtual Dub chews 'em up and spits 'em out.

    1. Re:Virtual Dub by hkmwbz · · Score: 2
      I usually slam people who don't make an effort to figure things out themselves before asking, and I must admin that I haven't done a lot of research, but...

      Is it not true that VirtualDub does not have any MPEG-1 filters, to save movies as normal MPEG-1 movies? (Or was that MPEG-2?)

      I must agree that VirtualDub is a great program otherwise, though.

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    2. Re:Virtual Dub by captaineo · · Score: 3, Informative

      I believe VirtualDub can read MPEG-1 now, but I don't think it can write them.

      MPEG is sort of outside VirtualDub's scope; it is first and foremost an *AVI* editing program (not a general video editing program).

      To my knowledge there is no single software package that can handle AVI, Quicktime, and MPEG equally well. (Premiere claims to handle all three, but its Quicktime and MPEG support have serious problems; Apple's Quicktime also claims to handle all three, but its AVI support is severely lacking).

      Plus, I don't think it is possible to distribute a free MPEG-2 codec since there are active patents on it... (Apple distributes Quicktime 6 without MPEG-2 support, and makes you pay $20 or $30 extra for it)

  64. the K-Meleon web browser by jacobito · · Score: 2

    K-Meleon is a nice little Win32 web browser that uses the Gecko rendering engine from the Mozilla project. Though still just a bit rough around the edges, it is an impressive piece of work; it is quite fast, and very customizable. The latest beta versions include tabbed browsing, a feature I can't live without. If they add URL autocomplete, the browser will be very suitable for day-to-day use.

    The development team appears to be rather small, and they release infrequently. I recommend grabbing the last beta release, and not the last public release, which is old.

    I believe that K-Meleon is released under the GPL.

  65. Virtualdub is best of breed GPL software... by codingOgre · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Virtualdub is excellent video editing software. Easy to get started with and *very* powerful. I use it to back up all of my DVDs. Give it a try.

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    Space may be the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement. --Red Hot Chili Peppers, Californication
    1. Re:Virtualdub is best of breed GPL software... by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 1

      I use it to back up all of my DVDs.

      The way Linus backs up Linux? ;-)

  66. what is this, Zeropaid? by thumperward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh right. Just send us the source then and it can go on the disk.

    What's that Lassie? The troll forgot to hit Post Anonymously before that one?

    - Chris

    1. Re:what is this, Zeropaid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you actually review all the source of every program you install? I strongly doubt that. So what's the difference then?

    2. Re:what is this, Zeropaid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no source for Kazaa Lite. It's a hacked version of Kazaa.

    3. Re:what is this, Zeropaid? by martyn+s · · Score: 1

      Actually, even though I was the original poster, I do see the difference. I understand, and admire, those who make a point about their beliefs, especially in this specific matter. I was only trying to say that any gnutella client isn't really a viable alternative to kazaa, at least not yet. If anything, gnutella will only turn off casual users from open source software.

    4. Re:what is this, Zeropaid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, my brother-in-law loves Gnucleus. He didn't really know where to find music online since napster went away. I couldn't reccomend any software with spyware in it, so I had him install gnucleus. He does buy music CDs too, but only has X many dollars to spend on CDs.

    5. Re:what is this, Zeropaid? by martyn+s · · Score: 1

      Don't recommend software with spyware. Recommend Kazaa lite. The fact of the matter is, I've never even tried gnucleus. I've just never had any good experience with a gnutella client. I'll go check it out now, but my hopes aren't too high.

  67. PySol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One word. Pysol.

    Greatest solitaire card game(s) ever.

    Aragorn

  68. id software by mortis_aeturnus · · Score: 1

    Its certainly great that id has come out with their source code time after time. With projects such as Doomsday,Tenebrae Quake, and Legacy, id has given their old games eternal life even for their old M$ operating system base. If anything should be on your list, put the 4 released source games because they might be some of the most influential open source games for the windows platform even today.

  69. Don't forget the eye candy... by ryanvm · · Score: 3, Informative

    I wrote a little utility that allows you to have window transparency under Windows 2000 and XP. It's called Vitrite, and it's licensed under the GPL.

    It certainly isn't in the same league as Mozilla and OpenOffice, but you'll definately have room for it on your CD (only 85 KB).

    And yes it's the same utility I've been pimping in my sig for months now.

    1. Re:Don't forget the eye candy... by $carab · · Score: 1

      I have been using Vitrite for a couple weeks now, and it's absolutely fantastic. Great Work on this project, and I think it should definately be included in any collection of OSS work!

    2. Re:Don't forget the eye candy... by Dan+Crash · · Score: 2

      Back when I still had a Windows box, I really enjoyed Vitrite. I used it on my network monitor so I could display the graph over my browser and still read websites. Just wanted to say thanks. Your work was appreciated.

      --
      He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
    3. Re:Don't forget the eye candy... by McCart42 · · Score: 2

      Thank you so much for making this program. It's exactly what I needed for window transparency and nothing more. Put Winamp/Trillian at 30% and always on top. I can't think of anything else that I would want in a program like this.

      --
      "I may be quite wrong." - Socrates
    4. Re:Don't forget the eye candy... by dr_zeus · · Score: 1

      I just downloaded this. Very cool, I am quite impressed!

    5. Re:Don't forget the eye candy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      splended. Very cool utility. thanks

  70. Unreal Tournament 2003 by Spazholio · · Score: 1

    They've already got a demo version out for linux for client AND server. Even though the FAQ site doesn't say it, one would THINK that would mean that UT2003 will be released with the windows version (or shortly thereafter).

    1. Re:Unreal Tournament 2003 by veddermatic · · Score: 2

      UT2003 != Open Source

      Therefore, it has no place on an open source software sampler CD. READ... then post =)

      Besides, even if it was, if you want to showcase games, UT2k3 (which is just UT with a Quake3 lookalike engine) is *not* what I'd choose!!!

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    2. Re:Unreal Tournament 2003 by Spazholio · · Score: 1

      Ok, YES, it's not OS, I cocked that one up good and proper. Sorry.

  71. Vim editor by Creosote · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Windows port of the Vim editor is a sine qua non. Except for not being able to use interesting pipe commands, the PC port will do anything in the world one might want to do with a text document, and it has just enough GUI functionality to be useful without being intrusive.

    1. Re:Vim editor by krygny · · Score: 1

      A modal editor is just not practical to most Windows uses. They're better off with one of the available shareware editors. Shareware isn't open or even free, so it doesn't bear mentioning in this forum - but since it's too late for that, on Windows, I like
      GWD.

      --
      Research shows that 67% of those who use the term "research shows", are just making shit up.
    2. Re:Vim editor by Ramses0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, you *can* use pipes, very similarly to what's done on Linux ... it's just that not as many DOS programs support being used as a pipe.

      Next time, try ":!find str" when you already have a selection. "!" executes, and because you have a selection, it will be filtered through the "find" command, for the string "str". Very useful for trimming down 50mb log files when you don't have Grep.

      --Robert

    3. Re:Vim editor by sohp · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yep. Alongside learning PuTTY, grandmama will be a 133+ h4x0r in no time.

    4. Re:Vim editor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You,are a freak. VI and it's derivitives suck hard, text editors have improved for years but people like you keep coming around to hold us all back. I can't understand why people are so stuck up on a program almost as old as most of the slashdotters here. Anything good about VI has already been absorbed into the better editors out there. I'm glad to see that those who opt for modern technology are prevailing on the linux scene and not retro freaks like you.

    5. Re:Vim editor by truesaer · · Score: 2
      Are you on crack? His family and friends don't want to use freaking vim...


      shesh.

  72. Make sure they add libcurl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Libcurl available here

    http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/

    If you create Windows apps and you don't want to rely on windows tranfer/internet protocals Curl is the way to go.

    shadash

  73. VNC by xchino · · Score: 0

    VNC is the greatest remote administration suite to date IMHO, and is cross platform...

    --
    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.
  74. Only Two by Snoopy77 · · Score: 1

    Okay, so I might be narrowing it down a bit too much but don't non-geeks and family members simply want to be able to surf the net, read their emails and write documents and possibly use a speadsheet.

    If this is so then Open Office and Mozilla satisfy those needs.

    Some will want to rip and listen to MP3s in which case throw CDEX on but as a player it is not up to the Winamp/MusicMatch quality.

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    "She's a West Texas girl, just like me" - G.W Bush Iraqis
  75. PGPi by cavegrub · · Score: 1

    PGP International offers a nice, friendly, easy to use set of encryption tools. This includes a VPN (for a secure network layer) and nifty things like a quick encrypt for clipboard contents.
    PGP for Windows

  76. Command-line utilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GNU unix utilities for Windows is very useful. You get stuff like tar, gunzip, and md5sum. Sometimes the simpleness of command-line programs is preferrable to shareware GUIs.

  77. Jabber by jacobito · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many open source Jabber clients are available, so maybe you can get your friends to use open source software with an open instant messaging protocol!

    Personally, I use PSI when using Windows, but there are others out there that may be just as good. I do believe, though, that Psi is cross-platform, which may be a plus.

    1. Re:Jabber by Rynok · · Score: 1

      Exodus is my personal favorite. Clean interface that is similar to most email clients.

  78. Lol, putty. by BoomerSooner · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see it now...

    Me: Okay Grandma here's Putty, it's for connecting to my servers via ssh/sftp/ftp or telnet.

    Grandma: [confusion on face] what was that honey?

    Me: Oh come on now Grandma don't be coy. You know you've been secretly sshing into my servers to check your AOL mail via Pine.

    Grandma: [with a look on her face like she just smoked a QP of weed] huh?

    Me: Grandma? You still in there?

    I can see it now Putty for the family, everyone huddled around the PC roasting chestnuts, securing their linux boxes, checking top to see current system utilization, running ps to see if there are any runaway processes...

    lol, great post, PuTTY. I've got tears man, tears!

    1. Re:Lol, putty. by thumperward · · Score: 1

      As do I now. Nice one :)

      - Chris

    2. Re:Lol, putty. by mwright29 · · Score: 5, Funny

      What our narrator doesn't know is that "Grandma" (which is just a hacker alias) is really 1337:

      Me: Oh come on now Grandma don't be coy. You know you've been secretly sshing into my servers to check your AOL mail via Pine.

      Grandma: No, no dear. Pine is for wussies. I use mutt.

      Grandma: You still in there?

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      You can have my sig when you pry it from my cold dead......
    3. Re:Lol, putty. by archen · · Score: 1

      No, if she were really 1337 she would telnet into port 110 to check her mail, and port 25 to send it (which I actually do with putty from time to time on putty, well to check mail anyway)

    4. Re:Lol, putty. by Tower · · Score: 1

      >Grandma: [with a look on her face like she just smoked a QP of weed] huh?

      I've apparently been spending too much time working on infiniband lately... I read that as a "Queue Pair" of weed...

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    5. Re:Lol, putty. by iabervon · · Score: 2

      Actually, I gave my mother an account on my machine, which she uses with ttssh (or mindterm, now that I've set that up). It was much easier to explain Pine and a little bit of shell than to explain anything graphical (If you forget what the keys are, it tells you on the screen in small words; no mysterious pictures that could be anything). She has a complete explanation written on a small piece of paper next to the computer, too.

      Grandma: This is great! My hands shake more than the size of anything I have to click on if I use the mouse, but I've been able to type since before your parents were born.

    6. Re:Lol, putty. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I can see it now Putty for the family, everyone huddled around the PC roasting chestnuts, securing their linux boxes, checking top to see current system utilization, running ps to see if there are any runaway processes..."

      LOL! Thanks for the laugh.

    7. Re:Lol, putty. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Grandma: You still in there?

      What are you and Grandma up to?

    8. Re:Lol, putty. by Felius · · Score: 1

      133t is port 143, not 110.

      POP3 is 1@m3, d00d.

      I can't believe I just wrote that.

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  79. Chess by SashaM · · Score: 1

    My own project - A chess client</shameless plug>

    1. Re:Chess by SashaM · · Score: 1

      Oh, and Winboard is a rather old client, but it (currently) supports more chess servers and doubles as a front end for chess engines (default installation comes with GNUChess).

    2. Re:Chess by kotonk · · Score: 1

      There's some pretty open source good chess software out there:

      -Tim Mann's winboard (GUI, mentioned in other post)

      -If you have winboard and want to try something besides GNUchess, the most popular engine for the GUI: crafty, by Robert Hyatt. Not anywhere as user-friendly as something like Chessmaster, but a great engine. Er, and I'm not sure this has an actual open source license or if it's merely free as in beer.

      -connect to an open source chess server, the Free Internet Chess server; use Winboard as an interface and play internet chess with players from around the world

      -organize your game scores or study those of the greats with Shane Hudson's SCID chess database. Search the database by player name, Elo rating, openings, etc. This is an incredible program, usable, fast, and stable!

  80. Amaya by mrsam · · Score: 2

    Well, there's always Amaya, W3C's HTML editor/browser. I think they have a Win32 build.

    Amaya's been around for a long time, but not many people know about it, which is a real shame. It's a nice HTML editor, and produces very clean, HTML 4.0 compliant code. It supports CSS, and many other related web technologies. Check it out.

  81. What I use... by dasunt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OpenOffice.org
    Miranda ICQ
    Mozilla
    Putty
    XNview
    Audacity
    TuxRacer
    GLTron
    Povray
    FreeCiv
    Kakepad
    FileZilla
    Xchat
    CDex

    All GPL (I believe), and hopefully I didn't include anything too geeky.

    1. Re:What I use... by sinister+minister+si · · Score: 1

      Miranda ICQ??

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    2. Re:What I use... by dasunt · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with Miranda ICQ? Its not skinnable, but otherwise, it seems stable, and has MSN Messenger support. People use IM's, and the default ICQ client is a tad bloated for memory size, and doesn't have MSN Messenger support.

    3. Re:What I use... by pvera · · Score: 2

      I decided to switch from mirc (shareware) to xchat (GPL) on Windows 2000 and XP so I can run the same client in Linux and Windows (same reason I run Mozilla if I am jumping continuosly between Windows and Linux: be familiar with one app that runs the same regardless of which PC I am sitting in front of).

      One of the few real frustrations I have had while switching to Mac OS X is that I cannot figure out how to get xchat running on XDarwin :-(

      And putty just rocks. It is my SSH client of choice for Windows.

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    4. Re:What I use... by osd1000 · · Score: 1

      PuTTY is covered by the MIT licence, not the GPL.

    5. Re:What I use... by WowTIP · · Score: 2

      As far as I can tell, the guy didn't request GPL:ed software for Win32, only open source. MIT is open source.

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      In the twilight, unknown"
    6. Re:What I use... by Arandir · · Score: 1

      All GPL (I believe)

      Wrong. Some aren't under the GPL. In fact, one isn't even Free Software!

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    7. Re:What I use... by rodolfo.borges · · Score: 1
    8. Re:What I use... by sinister+minister+si · · Score: 1

      I thought ICQ was made by Mirabilis.

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    9. Re:What I use... by devnullify · · Score: 1

      Google didn't turn up anything useful for Kakepad, and it's not on Freshmeat either. As it sounds like a replacement for notepad, I'm intrigued. URL please.

    10. Re:What I use... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      search for kake pad (2 words).

  82. Coolpayer. Plays mp3s and OGGs by Phosphor3k · · Score: 1

    Win32 ONLY. GPL'd. Skinable. Been using it for about a month.

    Coolplayer Hompage

  83. Don't forget to OGG-vocate vorbis by MaCa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    CDex was the first OS project for windows (besides mozilla) that popped into mind. But if the idea is to make a CD to "educate" people into using OSS, then it would be a good idea to advocate the use of OGG/Vorbis - with CDex in this case.

    1. Re:Don't forget to OGG-vocate vorbis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no one wants to use your lame audio format.

    2. Re:Don't forget to OGG-vocate vorbis by MindStalker · · Score: 0, Troll

      no one wants to use your lame audio formats, Winthorp

    3. Re:Don't forget to OGG-vocate vorbis by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't exactly say troll, more offtopic...
      posting +1 to burn off karma for re-entry

  84. GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Plug · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most Windows users start out with MS Paint{,brush}. Compare this to the GIMP. Then compare it to Photoshop.

    Paint has the right idea in my Book of UI Design for Image Editors - a 'full screen' workspace for your image, tools that are kept outside the image, and menus that are accessed from the top of the screen.

    Photoshop take that one step further with tabbed palletes (as this comment says, perhaps that can't be replicated exactly without infringing copyright laws) - however, I expect with a few hours of work, someone familar with the GIMP could write a more usable (in this case, yes I mean more Windows-friendly) UI for it, moving all the menus to a MDI style application. Take THAT app and package it on your Windows OSS CD.

    GIMP has all the hard work done - the image tools are great, and wingimp claim to have 90% of PS's functionality. And you can't complain about 0% of the price.

    Windows people would only get confused by The GIMP. It looks like crap so normal users don't bother figuring out how to use it. Sure, some learning is always a good thing, but the interface is not only (IMO) counter-intuitive, it goes against the established norm, in a way that could be very easily fixed.

    1. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but the interface is not only (IMO) counter-intuitive, it goes against the established norm

      You do realize its based on adobe ps

    2. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by FPhlyer · · Score: 1

      But...
      Photoshop contains all of it's dialogs and cavasas withen a single window. Gimp confuses things because you can have the brush selector in the foreground tiled over Internet Explorer and the Canvas is buried somewhere at the bottom. Unifying Gimp to run all of it's various components withen a single window frame would be a great step forward.

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    3. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by TheGreatInsomniac · · Score: 1

      I would have to noninate Xaos as a great toy for all those windoze users.

    4. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use the GIMP and the one thing I absolutely cannot stand is it's insistence on polluting my my window tabs in KDE with five damn nested windows. Maybe it is of benefit to someone who has differenct parts of app running on different virtual desktops, but I simply hate it. I spend as little time in the GIMP as possible for this very reason. The UI simply sucks.

    5. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by HiNMity · · Score: 1

      I so agree with you. This goes for alot of applications in linux. If it would be that `full screen` it would just ease up the workflow. I think that goes for a lot of people!!Otherwise Gimp has great tools and is a kick ass app from a technically pov ...but since the UI sucks i use Photoshop.

    6. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Against the norm for all other programs, then. Macromedia (yes, I know, not Adobe) have stopped doing the floating window interface with their MX series. Basically, when Adobe Photoshop came out it was very early on and there weren't any interface guidelines for MacOS or Windows, and we got to today through interia alone.

      It's the main reason I use PaintShopPro over photoshop, because of the non-standard interface and the overlapping windows. Not only is PaintShopPro standard, but when I allocate the right to be colour selection and the left to be shapes then I can maximise my drawing area without obscuring other toolbars.

      The adobe style of interface is non-standard in the context of applications.

    7. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by HughsOnFirst · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well there are a few things that keep me from using the gimp for my own work, but the UI isn't one of them.
      It's pretty good, good enough for most people, and looks like a serious piece of software which makes it good for the "See, open source, free ( in both senses ) software can be very sophisticated." demo.

      Unfortunately for my own work the Gimp has some pretty serious shortcomings.
      You are limited to only 24 bits, and I really want to work in at 48 bit from 36 bit source.
      If there is color management or matching in this or any other program available on Linux I'd like to know about it.
      I'm not sure if the gamma and curve control is adequate, although given the first two limitations, it doesn't really matter.
      Windows just plain sucks except that you can run photoshop and some scanners on it, and printer support is pretty good.
      OSX looks pretty nice, maybe I'll buy a Mac.

      But back to the subject. People who want to buy Photoshop buy the hardware to match the software , as in " I want to keep 3 8k by 8s images open at once and do unsharp masks on them in about a half second. Sell me some hardware that will do that. "

      For everybody else, the gimp is fine.
      BTW, is anybody working on a deep color rewrite of the gimp?

    8. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by RossyB · · Score: 1

      The lack of MDI (the single window frame) is a major step forwards in usability. MDI is a poor-mans virtual desktop. What if I want to have a web page open and select a brush at the same time? With MDI I have to resize and move the main window to some silly size, hope that I can still see the brush window, and then put IE next to it. With GIMP I just open a web browser, and I can see both.

    9. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by g4dget · · Score: 2
      but the [Gimp's] interface is not only (IMO) counter-intuitive, it goes against the established norm, in a way that could be very easily fixed.

      The GIMP UI isn't the best in the world, but I certainly prefer it to Photoshop. Why do all applications have to look the same? Just because many people eat at Macdonalds, does everybody have to?

    10. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by netean · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree, Gimp might have great power, but it's usability sucks ass.

      I've been using photoshop for a long time and I remember and I remember how daunted I felt when I first used it, but the fact remains that it wasn't the interface that daunted me, it was not knowing what everything did and how to achieve the results I wanted that daunted me.

      Gimp on the other hand doesn't conform to any gui guidelines I've ever found. Is NOT intuitive to use. Every other graphics app around:
      Photoshop, Illustrator, Freehand, Corel, Pixia, Project Dogwaffle etc. all have a similar look and feel - you might not know how everything works, or how to get the best out of them straightaway, but you know where to look to try and you feel comfortable exploring. Even when you first open then, you can simply create a blank page and start drawing or painting as the interfaces are consistent.

      Like a lot of other comments have suggested GIMP would seriously benefit from having being a single app/MDI type of thing. As well as perhaps spending some time studying GUI guidelines or even just watching people using GIMP for the first. GIMP doesn't have to be a complete clone of Photoshop to succeed, afterall photoshop isn't perfect by any means, but it just doesn't cut it right now, which is a shame!

    11. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by wheany · · Score: 1

      Why do all applications have to look the same?

      Because then you don't have to search for "exit" or "help" You just press the "X" in the top right corner, or press "F1"

      It's not just look. It's look and feel.

    12. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by p3d0 · · Score: 1
      GIMP has all the hard work done...
      Don't underestimate how much "hard work" is involved in making a really good user interface.
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    13. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by rseuhs · · Score: 2, Informative
      Gimp is not responsible for Windows' crappy GUI. In KDE you can easily push windows into the background by middle-clicking them or you can *gasp* use a dedicated virtual desktop just for Gimp.

      If you don't like it, create a dumbed-down Windows-version of Gimp that tries to make up Window's deficencies, but don't expect the creators of Gimp to make Gimp worse.

    14. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Nicolai+Haehnle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Note that MDI means multiple documents in a single window (as opposed to SDI, one document per window).

      Gimp is a weird mix of SDI and MDI: every document has its own window (SDI), but then there's only one menu/toolbar for all documents (MDI).

      SDI is a good thing because you can easily move different documents into different places. What Gimp does isn't really SDI though.

    15. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I thought the "tearoff" menus are a nifty little invention that could be implemented in windows if microsoft didn't suck.

    16. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by stephenbooth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A few reasons really. Mainly comfort factor and learning curve.

      Generally, people like things that look familiar, it gives them a comfortable feeling. If I'm used to one application that uses a certain key sequence to perform a particular task (eg copy something to the clipboard) and then want to do the same thing in another application I'm going to be a lot happier if the key sequence is the same. Whether we like it or not a lot of people are used to the Microsoft way of doing things.

      If I know how to do something in one application and want to do the same thing in another application then, if it doesn't do it the same way, I'm going to need some training or to spend some time reading the manuals. A lot of people are used to the Microsoft way of doing things and, to be honest, one of the few good things about Microsoft is at least they have interface consistency accross their apps.

      To take another approach. On UNIX (and other OSes for that matter) programs like grep, sed and awk (amongst others) use REGEX. Further they all use the same REGEX. How many problems would it cause if they all used different ways of representing strings?

      For most users a PC is just a tool for writing letters, web browsing, playing games or some other task. They don't want to RTFM and if they've had to learn one application they want to be able to apply that knowlege in the next application they have to use that does similar things, not have to learn another way to do the same things.

      Stephen

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    17. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Doomdark · · Score: 2
      ...GIMP would seriously benefit from having being a single app/MDI type of thing

      This is matter of taste I know, but personally I just can't stand MDI. I absolutely hate that, and I know I'm not alone here. I do know many like it, as well. It's not widely used outside Windows world is it? (Java supports MDI windows in Swing, but natively?). Then again, I'm in minority in that I never full-size windows to overtake the whole screen either. :-)

      Still, UI certainly could/should be improved, and MDI is not the only way to improve handling of multiple windows (ie. menu/toolbars on windows instead of global tool etc. window). If possible perhaps having option between MDI and multiple 'real' windows (without container like in MDI)... I remember seeing such apps, but can't remember names.

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    18. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by ianezz · · Score: 2
      Have a look at Film Gimp, version 0.4 has been just released some days ago.

      Briefly said, it is The Gimp modified to handle 16 bit per channel.

    19. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by HughsOnFirst · · Score: 2

      Thanks for the pointer.
      This looks really great
      None of my searches on Google turned that up.
      I'm going to be trying this out.
      This may get me to switch from photoshop for part of my workflow.
      Now if only there was some good printing software.
      Maybe I should write some...
      Time to check out the Epson drivers I guess.

    20. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Darkfred · · Score: 1

      A windows app could do either of these things if it really wanted to. But that would just make it mor confusing for people used to a different layout. That is the whole point, people get used to one style and can use the same control in any application.

      This is one of the major advantages of windows over OS apps. You can just dive in and know how to use the app with no extra work.

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    21. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Reziac · · Score: 2

      Paint started life as ZSoft's PCPaintBrush for DOS, back in 1985. (I still have a copy.) The Windows incarnation is *entirely* unchanged from the original, except for porting it to Windows and removing the paste clipping bug (where it would crop any part of a pasted image that didn't fit in the current window). Hilarious to see a 1985 DOS program running on WinXP :)

      ZSoft's PCPaintBrush was at the core of CorelDraw, too. From the copyright notice in CorelDraw8 (which I happen to have handy): Portions copyright © Zsoft Corporation.

      BTW I'd have to say PhotoShop's interface is also counter-intuitive, in fact actively user-hostile, and I think it's that way partly on purpose, to maintain the exclusivity of users who are willing to cough up $600 every year for the product. (And partly because IMO Adobe hasn't got a clue about context-sensitive feature sets. The only Adobe app that isn't this way is the full version of Acrobat.)

      If you want a really user-friendly interface in a bitmap editor, with a gentle learning curve, check out Corel's PhotoPaint (cheap as a standalone; free with CorelDraw and sometimes with Ventura; free download for linux).

      And your real point is correct -- why does everyone think they need to reinvent the UI, and most of the time, get it wrong when they do so??! Geesh!!

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    22. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by rseuhs · · Score: 2
      But that would just make it mor confusing for people used to a different layout.

      Got any proof of that statement?

      Meanwhile Winamp, ICQ and WMP give a shit about any guidelines and continue to be very popular.

    23. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by 5KVGhost · · Score: 2

      "GIMP has all the hard work done - the image tools are great, and wingimp claim to have 90% of PS's functionality."

      You're on the right track, but getting the interface right is also part of the hard work. And it'll take a lot more than a random user and a few hours of spare time to create an consistent and functional user interface that can compare favorably to a program like Photoshop. Photoshop isn't perfect, but it's pretty darn good, and Adobe has invested a lot of time and effort over many years to make it that way.

      And it's not just Photoshop/GIMP. No offense intended to the skilled programmers out there, but until more OS projects realize that good UI design is every bit as important as raw functionality then they'll never be able to compare favorably to commercial products on the desktop. For something that I'm expected to use every single day of my professional life, a free program with a tedious, arbitrary, ugly, and inconsistent UI is just not worth the cost in annoyance, frustration, and lost productivity.

    24. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by rt00r · · Score: 1

      If PhotoShop would have been free and under GPL , does anyone think that GIMP would have ever existed ?

    25. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by gea · · Score: 1

      You are in the majority. MDI has fallen out of favor on Windows and was never popular outside the Windows world. Even Microsoft doesn't use it anymore -- Word 2000 is SDI.

    26. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at other Mac applications. Many of them have interfaces similar to GIMP, i.e. several small windows rather than one monolithic fit-everyting-here window.

    27. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by snol · · Score: 1

      It's not so much MDI that's needed, but for a single document to take a single window... I really hate having to bring FOUR windows to the front in order to edit what I'm working on. Could use a separate desktop but I don't like that either. What's wrong with putting toolbars and controls in the same window with the picture?

    28. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by mobosplash · · Score: 1
      Why do all applications have to look the same?
      That's a good question because we don't want to freeze applications in the past. I think it's better to say "don't change a norm unless you can make a good case for why it's better."

      A good example is Quark on the mac.Most graphics apps use command-space for magnify and option-command-space for zoom out. Quark uses control for magnify. Command-space either beeps or adds spaces in your text that you have to fix.

      Obviously there is no clear reason why this key is better than that key but the typical Quark user is continually switching between Photoshop, Quark and an Illustration app like Illustrator or Freehand. You're certain to hit the wrong key several times a day.

      In other cases a unique UI element adds enough features that it is welcome anyway. Fireworks broke several Photoshop traditions but there was a payoff in Fireworks ability to use vector and bitmap elements in a single workspace.

    29. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by mobosplash · · Score: 1
      This is matter of taste I know, but personally I just can't stand MDI.
      I totally agree with this. I don't understand the whole MDI concept. I think they fly in the face of the idea of a modern multi-tasking enviroment. They are very much in the mode of "now I'm doing this. Now I'm doing that" I like to be able to see what's happening in other windows and to easily be able to drag items from one app to another.
    30. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Xoid629 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the interface isn't great, but for someone who can get around that and doesn't already have photoshop or something it would be very impressive.

    31. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows? Consistancy? What a joke!

      Maybe it's just because I'm a Mac user and I'm spoiled but when I use the computers on campus for Calculus Labs the key sequences are different between different applications. Get a frickin' clue: http://developer.apple.com/ue/switch/windows.html

      Yeah, I have to agree, using gimp on my computer is somewhat awkward but that is what pulled me to the dark side of OSS. I think it would be worth sticking on the CD because it proves that OSS can make good, if unorganized software.

    32. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's no problem.
      But I have a suggestion.
      Get a bigger monitor
      Change your resolution
      Use a window environment.
      Stop pressing enter after each sentence.
      My cheeks are sweaty...
      Eggs sound delicious right now.

    33. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by g4dget · · Score: 2
      A few reasons really. Mainly comfort factor and learning curve.

      Your comfort and your learning curve, not my comfort and my learning curve.

      For most users a PC is just a tool for writing letters, web browsing, playing games or some other task.

      Good for them. So, why don't they keep using PCs running Windows? Why does my computer have to become just like theirs? My computers are used for very different purposes. It stands to reason that they should have a different interface.

    34. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by g4dget · · Score: 2
      Because then you don't have to search for "exit" or "help" You just press the "X" in the top right corner, or press "F1"

      I do. I wouldn't think of pressing "F1", I would type "man program".

      Making Gimp and Linux like Windows is convenient for Windows users. But why should that be the goal of UI development on Linux? Can't we have multiple paradigms for interacting with computers? I can't fly a plane, but that doesn't mean that I demand that planes get the same user interface as cars just so that I can fly them more easily.

    35. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by wheany · · Score: 1

      If ayou port a program to Windows, make it look and feel like a Windows program. If you port a program to MacOS, make it look and feel like a MacOS program.

      If you port a program to Linux, make it look and feel like either a Windows or a MacOS program, since there seem to be no look and feel guidelines for Linux programs.

      The trouble is, The Gimp looks and feels like The Gimp.

    36. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by g4dget · · Score: 2
      Oh, that I can agree with. WinGimp might well have a Windows-like UI, with all the features that Windows and Photoshop users love, at least if the goal is to make Windows users happy. If the goal is to get Windows users to start getting used to Linux UIs, then maybe it shouldn't.

      But the thread somewhere along the line deteriorated into an unqualified "the Gimp interface is worse than Photoshop", and that I don't agree with.

    37. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by stephenbooth · · Score: 2
      Good for them. So, why don't they keep using PCs running Windows? Why does my computer have to become just like theirs?

      I thought the idea of this was to help/encourage people off Microsoft and on to Linux or some other OSS OS. As for why the interface on your computer might become like their's. Well, there are a lot more of them than there are of you and people creating software commercially (and usually non commercially as well) want as many people as possible to be using their product so that they can make some money or even just for the satisfaction of knowing that a lot of people are using their product. Therefore they are going to create a product that appeals to the majority.

      My computers are used for very different purposes. It stands to reason that they should have a different interface.

      I was really talking about the basic look and feel of the interface and about how normal day-to-day office type products work; things like the way copy and paste are done in the wordprocessor, spreadsheet, graphics package etc. If you have some specialist application that needs a different interface then there's no reason it can't have a different interface. However, I feel that such applications will tend to be the exception rather than the rule.

      One advantage of Linux and OSS is that if you don't like the interface you can always find or write a window manager (or, indeed, another application)that does things how you want; the majority are catered for by the default whilst allowing the minority to change from the default if it doesn't suit them.

      Stephen

      --
      "Don't write down to your readers, the only people less intelligent than you can't read" - Sign on Newspaper Office Wall
    38. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by shaka · · Score: 2

      Lots of IDEs have several different windows, stacked pretty much like MDI but without the container. Some of them "stick" to each other if I'm not mistaken.
      Check out Delphi/Kylix/JBuilder from Borland for instance.
      This is probably what GIMP should do IMO: One "menu-window" that wants to sit at the top of the screen, with much the same functionality of the current GIMP main window. The tools options window, the brush selection, layers window etc would stack under that and each other at the left and right of the screen, with the image(s) you're working on in the middle.
      All of this is pretty much doable right now, and improves the interface enormously. It should just be the default.

      --
      :wq!
    39. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by rppp01 · · Score: 1

      I use both Windows and Linux. I find that I end up using MSPaint for most of my image creation/editing needs. Why?
      Well, it seems that although I am comfortable in a CLI and with linux as a desktop, I have not yet grasped GIMP (or PS, for that matter). They seem to have too much going on for me. So I simly go back to the image editor that I am comfortable with. If gimp had a few more 'tutorials' to help me get comfortable with the tools, then I would probably go back to trying to learn it.

      --
      They stuck me in an institution, said it was the only solution, to...protect me from the enemy, myself
    40. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok,
      that
      is
      a
      good
      idea.

      mmmm
      eggs.

    41. Re:GIMP is not obvious to Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I totally disagree.

      I would agree that The GIMP looks nothing like a Windows program.

      Other than that, the majority of the complaints I've seen here about The GIMP's interface is that it's not all in the same window.

      I like that just fine! Why would I want to take up more of my desktop space than I have to? Frankly, I see no problem with this (other than the fact that it doesn't look like Windows...)

      The menu systems are great; general menu options are in the main window, and image-specific menu options are in the image menu. Makes perfect sense to me.

      Funny--I used photoshop for a few years, and got very used to the interface, but after a few days familiarizing myself with The GIMP, I much prefered it's interface to Photoshop. Or--God Forbid--MSPaint's interface.

  85. Well..... by carlmenezes · · Score: 0

    You basically need these :

    For browsing : Mozilla - install the calendar plugin too and modify the start HTML page so people are directed to www.mozdev.org and encouraged to install plugins like multizilla and optimoz - the point is to PROVE it's better than IE.

    Office : OpenOffice

    Imaging : The Gimp

    Also,

    Bookmark Priest - It's not OSS, but it's free and will help migrate bookmarks from Opera and IE to Mozilla.

    You also have the "War FTP Daemon" server which is an excellent server for the slightly adventurous.

    Gnucleus - for file sharing - I couldn't recommend a better or more stable program.

    What we REALLY need though is open-source Anti-virus.

    --
    Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
  86. dscaler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://deinterlace.sourceforge.net

    This is one of the best deinterlacers around. It makes the output from my video capture card just amazing. I hear that when paired with an SDI input card and an appropriate DVD player, the quality beats just about everything out there.

    Someday someone will port it, or at least more of their algorithms, back to linux.

    1. Re:dscaler by jx100 · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but it's a damn good TV app, if you have a TV card. It's one of the apps that I really miss since I switched to linux because of its excellent deinterlacing capabilities.

  87. ummm...VirtualDub by UpperClassTwit · · Score: 1

    www.virtualdub.org

    VirtualDub is one of the most impressive pieces of free, open-source Windows software I have ever come across...I haven't found any commercial product that comes close to replacing it's overall feature set, robustness, and just general utility.

    "VirtualDub is a video capture/processing utility for 32-bit Windows platforms (98/NT/2000/XP), licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL). It lacks the editing power of a general-purpose editor such as Adobe Premiere, but is streamlined for fast linear operations over video. It has batch-processing capabilities for processing large numbers of files and can be extended with third-party video filters."

  88. Here's a good place to start by Mike+McCune · · Score: 5, Informative
    --

    In a world that is Free and Open, who needs Windows and Gates?

    1. Re:Here's a good place to start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or my more humble website for examples from majore categories:

      http://www.geocities.com/openguru/

    2. Re:Here's a good place to start by Hooya · · Score: 2
      In a world that is Free and Open, who needs Windows and Gates?

      I've read slashdot for a long time. but that's gotta be the best .sig i've read so far. can i borrow it?

    3. Re:Here's a good place to start by zero0w · · Score: 1

      Thank you very much that's a great collections!

    4. Re:Here's a good place to start by airlie · · Score: 1

      That's my site! I didn't even have to post it my self! Cool.

      Now that I know some people find it useful I probably ought to update it soon.

    5. Re:Here's a good place to start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, put SecureCRT under the telnet/ssh section for Closed Source. Nothing compares... not even PuTTY.

    6. Re:Here's a good place to start by Mike+McCune · · Score: 2

      OK. I'll license my .sig under the Gnu Free Documentation License. Happy Hacking...

      --

      In a world that is Free and Open, who needs Windows and Gates?

    7. Re:Here's a good place to start by Mike+McCune · · Score: 2
      I'm glad to help drive up your advertising revenue ;-)


      It's a great collection of software to wean people off the "software horders".


      When you update the site, don't forget to add the best IRC client to you list - XChat!

      --

      In a world that is Free and Open, who needs Windows and Gates?

  89. what sort of friends are these? by glwtta · · Score: 2
    Most free software on windows I have interaction with tends to be the likes of Apache, Tomcat, JBoss, NetBeans (I love NetBeans, I'd marry it if it was legal) and um, Perl.

    Though I don't think that's quite the niche you are going for...

    --
    sic transit gloria mundi
  90. The BYU UUG by omnirealm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    During the summer, I suggested to my local Unix Users Group that we put together a campaign on campus dubbed "Software for Starving Students." The idea is that we would advocate the use of Free Software among the student body at BYU.

    The ball got rolling, and we put together a CD image that we burned and handed out to students from a booth in the student center. We selected OpenOffice, Mozilla, The Gimp, BZFlag, and AbiWord in the most recent incarnation.

    Last week, we gave out 400 copies of the CD from the booth. I mentioned to the group that if we did the math the way Microsoft does math, with each disc, we saved a student around $1,300. The 400 copies from last week combined with the 180 copies we gave out during the summer comes to around 3/4 of a million dollars with of savings to the student body! :-)

    I, of course, took every opportunity to explain to passerby who accepted the disc about the multiple meanings of the word "free." The club president was making people promise to copy the software and give it to their friends in exchange for receiving the disc. Our Linux Install Fest last Saturday kept the classroom packed with students who heard about Linux and wanted us to install it on their computers for them.

    I'm happy to say that we're doing our part to keep Linux from getting "stomped."

    --
    An unjust law is no law at all. - St. Augustine
    1. Re:The BYU UUG by omnirealm · · Score: 2

      Oh, and I forgot to mention that the discs contained both the Windows and the Linux versions of the software. But given the context of this story, that should go without saying. We also had MacOS X discs for the occasional Mac user.

      --
      An unjust law is no law at all. - St. Augustine
    2. Re:The BYU UUG by pruss · · Score: 1

      Talking of math and students, there is the Windows version of Macsyma known as Maxima which is open source now. A free alternative to Deriva, Maple and Mathematica for symbolic algebra, calculus, 2D and 3D graphing, etc. A nice thing to include on a CD for students.

  91. ncftp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ncftp is a must have.

  92. In the Spirit of Pimping one's own project.... by $carab · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd like to nominate Anna the Chatbot, licensed under the GPL. Sure, it requires Java 2 1.4 to run, but it can be quite the way to kill some time.

    And there are some lonely evenings when - waaaait....Let's not go there......

  93. Egoboo by Skwirl · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Egoboo is a top-down dungeon crawler written with the Quake 2 engine. The authors cite Nethack as a major influence but it plays a lot more like Zelda64.

    The last time I checked (which was several months ago) Egoboo wasn't quite ready for prime time, but it's fun enough that I doubt anybody will care and the installation and setup was painless. It's certainly a project to keep an eye on.

    1. Re:Egoboo by zero0w · · Score: 1

      A very interesting project, thank you.

  94. Best software that I've seen is.... by papasui · · Score: 3, Insightful

    VNC for several platforms.

  95. Limewire? by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

    In the same vein, isn't Limewire open source?

    1. Re:Limewire? by Xawen · · Score: 1

      No, but you can very easily run jad on the .jar files and make it that way ;)...

    2. Re:Limewire? by FPhlyer · · Score: 1

      Yes, the source is available. But what is the license? Just because you can contribute to the source doesn't mean it meets the "Open Source" definition, and definately not the "Free Software" definition. Remember: the question is GNU software for Windows, not just Open Source software.

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    3. Re:Limewire? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Open source means that you can access the source code. It has nothing to do with the license. Maybe you equate the two, but OSS != GNU.

    4. Re:Limewire? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OpenSource is a term by Bruce Perens and has everything to do with specific listed 'OpenSource Certified' licences. See opensource.org.

    5. Re:Limewire? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the source is available. But what is the license? Just because you can contribute to the source doesn't mean it meets the "Open Source" definition, and definately not the "Free Software" definition

      I am a bit disappointed at the lack of mindshare LimeWire has. It is GPL'd (http://www.limewire.org/project/www/gnu.html), and a new feature is swarm downloading, which detects and downloads parts of exact duplicates with the same SHA-1 signatures from multiple sources for a faster download. Now if that doesn't impress you enough, go to their website and learn more about it: http://www.limewire.org/

    6. Re:Limewire? by jilles · · Score: 2

      You are mistaken, the source code is available under GPL from CVS. Go see limewire.org for further instructions on obtaining the source code.

      --

      Jilles
    7. Re:Limewire? by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      I just can't believe that crap, named Limewire could be suggested even.

      Its one of the most evil spyware added product, I don't care if its "open source" or not. Last time, they were caught adding a JAVA SPYWARE!!! to download and guess what? "accidentally", they forgot "opt-in" question for it. Seek the web/usenet for TopMoxie, you'll see.

    8. Re:Limewire? by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      You're mistaken. It has everything to do with the license. Furthermore, the GPL fits the bill, if something is GPLed (as Chris said), that is sufficient to make it Open Source too.

      --
      Patrick Doyle
      I mod down every jackass who puts his moderation policy in his sig. Oh, wait a sec....
    9. Re:Limewire? by Greebz · · Score: 1


      Uh... no. The question IS Open Source software for Windows.

      The article title is "The Best of Windows Open Source Software?".

      The first sentence is ""I'm cooking up a CD-ROM image of excellent Win32 Open Source software to give to friends and family who are intrigued by the whole OSS movement but don't know where to start."

      See?

      Not a single mention of GNU or GPL, in fact. Or even licenses in general.

  96. Port this to unix please! by shepd · · Score: 1

    Someone with the skills (unlike myself) and looking for something that people will appreciate your work for if you port it, this is the project of the decade. Ok, maybe not the decade, but certainly this year! :-)

    --
    If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
    1. Re:Port this to unix please! by motardo · · Score: 2

      I wish I could code, because if I did, I'd definitely port this app over to *nix.

    2. Re:Port this to unix please! by FPhlyer · · Score: 1

      "Do you have over 1600 [slashdot.org] comments? Why Not? "

      Because I only post when I feel that my comment will be meaningful?

      Seriously, I've been reading slashdot since nearly day one, and I've only posted 189 (er, now it's 190) comments.

      Slow down cowboy!

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    3. Re:Port this to unix please! by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

      Would be somewhat difficult as it relies on DirectShow (DirectX) filters to read files. You'd have to write your own module for all that.

  97. ADOM by Noodlenose · · Score: 1
    I use ADOM at the office to keep me sane and to ease the pain from using Windows.

    It's witty, addictive, great fun and runs on pretty much on all specs.

    I'm still waiting for the OS X port, though.

    1. Re:ADOM by hub · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      I couldn't find a way to download source code for ADOM. Too bad. It look like this is NOT Open Source software.

      --
      Hub
    2. Re:ADOM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to the FAQ, he's going to release the source when he hits version 1.0.

  98. GLTron by SetupWeasel · · Score: 2

    GLTron is one of the coolest free games out there.

    SetupWeasel

  99. Heretic!!!! by fatquack · · Score: 1

    How dare you call Angband the best when everybody know there is only Dungeon Crawl and it's name is NetHack, amen!
    May the RNG (praise be upon they name) smite thee, infidel!

    I will name the next purple worm after you before I slay it.

    And NetHack is of course available for Win32 on www.nethack.org for downloading.

    1. Re:Heretic!!!! by jvmatthe · · Score: 2

      I hope to get around to playing NetHack someday, but I just can't stop playing Angband long enough to set it up!

  100. FTP Sucks! Use WinSCP by md17 · · Score: 2


    GUI Secure CoPy

    Train those friends and family to use a secure method of transfering files.

    1. Re:FTP Sucks! Use WinSCP by oever · · Score: 1

      WinSCP is not free as in speech:

      WinSCP is freeware, which means that everybody has a permission for using, copying and distribution of this application for any reasons and without any payments. This program mustn't be modified and all files, with which the program was obtained, must accompany the program.

      --
      DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
  101. TortoiseCVS - Enjoyable version control by MaCa · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Aonther excelent example of good OSS for windows is TortoiseCVS. From its site:

    With TortoiseCVS you can directly check out modules, update, commit and see differences by right clicking on files and folders within Explorer

    I wish Konqueror/Nautilus had something similar.... really a shame that such a god CVS client has no similar in the linux world. :-(
  102. Xine by Ainu · · Score: 1

    Here is a link for a win32 port of Xine, a nice video player

    http://www.matthewgrooms.net/

  103. Two very good GPL Java programs... by codingOgre · · Score: 1

    Limewire and Jedit are two very nice programs that are GPLed. The programs run pretty fast and run on most popular platforms (being Java). Pretty cool when your P2P software has the same interface on Linux, Solaris, and Windows. Having the same interface makes answering your families' questions rather easy.

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    Space may be the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement. --Red Hot Chili Peppers, Californication
  104. Please Be Aware! by jaaron · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please note that there is already a project currently working on this. You may want to combine forces since they've been working on this since this last spring.

    Check out the OpenCD project at
    http://www.theopencd.org/

    You are free to work on your on project of course, but I HATE to see duplication of effort.

    --
    Who said Freedom was Fair?
    1. Re:Please Be Aware! by Jeppe+Salvesen · · Score: 2
      but I HATE to see duplication of effort.

      I disagree. Duplication of effort is in fact good - when moderate. Different people see things differently. Duplication of effort in OSS means that the projects can borrow ideas from each other. It also means that the end user can choose. The history of window managers is a good example of this principle.

      --

      Stop the brainwash

    2. Re:Please Be Aware! by blibbleblobble · · Score: 2

      TheOpenCD.org hasn't had any activity for months: I discovered them only through logfiles (they were linking to me) but by that time momentum on the project had already slowed.

      It would have been good if this article could have referenced the project, so more work might get done. However, most people will just write back with "try mozilla" onto slashdot and help no further.

      There are a couple of minor hurdles: notably source-distribution (18K moz binary, or fill the CD with source) but this project would seem a remarkably effort-efficient way to promote free-software.

    3. Re:Please Be Aware! by LetterJ · · Score: 1
      Any my own project, OSSBlacksheep

      that's moving forward to release soon.

    4. Re:Please Be Aware! by MrResistor · · Score: 2

      Thank god! I can't believe I had to scroll down this far to see a post pointing out OpenCD, and I was getting quite discouraged about having to post one at the end of 600 or so comments. Talk about lost in the crowd!

      --
      Under capitalism man exploits man. Under communism it's the other way around.
  105. candide by vectra14 · · Score: 1

    the best of all possible worlds?

  106. gltron and audacity by Xoxiro · · Score: 1

    Gltron and audacity are the ones that spring instantly to mind

  107. Star Control Timewarp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Star Control Timewarp is open source and works on both Windows and Linux

  108. Games.... by Drakonite · · Score: 2, Informative
    How about Flightgear?

    It seems like a great flight sim, but you apparently need a pretty fast computer (either that or I don't have opengl set up where it can find it)

    --
    Shoot Pixels, Not People!
  109. CDex fine under XP by trib · · Score: 3, Informative

    Dude, the last few versions of CDex are just dandy under XP. I suugest you pay a visit to SourceForge and download the latest build. Then you can off MusicMatch to /dev/null (yeah, I KNOW it doesn't exist in Win. That's 'cos Win IS /dev/null).

    I have CDex dancing like Gene Kelly on my XP notebook. It's one of the few things on my checklist keeping using Windows (although our in-house Linux guru almost has me convinced...)

    If you need help, contact me off the boards.

    Trib

    1. Re:CDex fine under XP by TinCanFury · · Score: 1

      CDex works fine under Wine. I've been using it to rip my CD's(again, using --preset extreme instead of -r3mix) for the last 5 days straight with no problems(I have a LOT of CDs....) and I'm running Mdk9.0RC2.

    2. Re:CDex fine under XP by Reaver88 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      hahahhaa, you said "dancing like Gene Kelly"... hahahah :)

    3. Re:CDex fine under XP by G�tz · · Score: 1
      Then why don't you use a native Linux application like grip, that's what I use. You need to install the notlame package from plf, if you want mp3 instead of ogg.

      BTW you can upgrade to Mandrake 9.0, it's finished now.

  110. I don't like MDI much by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I understand that the GIMP has a decidedly different UI from what Windows users are accustomed to...heck, different from GNOME.

    However, I simply cannot agree on the MDI modification.

    First, GIMP's current UI is very good for multiple viewports, where you can spread it out across multiple desktops. MDI would take that away. Even on a single viewport you can put some palletes in the back if you don't need them.

    Second, one common complaint about GIMP is its complete and utter lack of modality. There are no dialog boxes that come up and prevent you from doing things. In the middle of setting some plugin settings? Just flip to another window and do some other work. This can get confusing to people that are used to Photoshop -- but I'm quite certain that while this approach is unfamiliar, it's much better. You're never locked in to doing a particular step.

    Finally, it would be nice to have "palette" style windows, but unfortunately X11 doesn't support a palette (or in Mac OS UI terms, a "windoid") window style. It would be incredibly nifty if it did...

    1. Re:I don't like MDI much by fault0 · · Score: 2

      > Finally, it would be nice to have "palette" style windows, but unfortunately X11 doesn't support a palette (or in Mac OS UI terms, a "windoid") window style. It would be incredibly nifty if it did...

      Actually, this is possible with any window manager that supports either MWM hints, or properly supports the _NET spec. The latter includes any window manager that works with KDE 2.0 or above, or GNOME 2.0 and above.

      The specific atoms to be used, AFAIK are:

      _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DOCK
      _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_TO OLBAR

      _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_TOOLBAR is more applicable. Qt apps use it when dragging toolbars out of the "toolbar" area. I think in the next version of Gtk, dragged menus will do this too. The window manager is supposed to draw the titlebar smaller for that window, and only draw a close box. This is exactly like a classic MacOS-ish windoid, as far as I remember (I haven't done any MacOS programming since Sys. 7.6 :) )

      I think the dock atom would be better for Photoshop-like palettes, as a button should be drawn to return the palette to it's previous (and possibly tabbed location.)

  111. The Windows Toolbox is such a compilation by thegoldenear · · Score: 1

    The Windows Toolbox:
    www.thegoldenear.connectfree.co.uk/gg/toolbox/win3 2/the-software.htm

    "...a compilation of fundamental software and information for Windows (95,98,Me,NT4,2K,XP):

    a comprehensive tool set to enable you to work with the diverse and popular media of a modern personal computer system; patch holes in such systems to enhance stability and security; & diagnose software & hardware environments so as to help in their repair. using as few resources as possible

    The tools, organised by subject area, include software & documentation; chosen both for their superior functionality & by a moral bias toward the fairer means of production, distribution & use, namely Free Software, Open Source, Freeware, Shareware, etcetera. For example, in a food context this might roughly translate to one or more of the following: locally produced, seasonal, organic, free from animal cruelty and fairly traded, by people working co-operatively"

  112. Not with bannerblind! by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 3, Informative
    Bannerblind! Hit google, I'm too lazy to dig the link. If you use Moz, you MUST use bannerblind.

    1. Re:Not with bannerblind! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its still wasting your bandwidth by downloading it, and then hiding. Try Proximitron instead.

    2. Re:Not with bannerblind! by rickymoz · · Score: 1

      Too lazy? eh, you should know every cool stuff is on mozdev! So bannerblind is on bannerblind.mozdev.org.

  113. Finding Progs Is Easy... by istartedi · · Score: 2

    ...meeting the "non-geek" challenge is harder. Most OSS I use on Windows is command-line. I've got to have InfoZIP's CLI zip utilities or my Windows box just isn't complete. Note, they have a GUI client called "Wize" or something like that, but unless it's improved a lot within the past few months I can't recommend it. Of course gzip and bzip2 or important too, but that's even more geeky than the CLI zip.

    Then of course there is Gifsicle for making animated GIFs. I like it so much I'm willing to hold my nose on the GPL.

    I wouldn't be afraid to recommend Apache for Windows at this point either. I actually found it *easier* to deal with than any "personal webserver" put out by MSFT. Maybe that's just me.

    Of course, these are all CLI (or non-gui config for Apache). If you are serious about doing a commercial OSS for Windows CD, you need to include a 90-10 tutorial for your CLI software. By this, I mean giving the users examples that show the 10% of CLI options that provide 90% of the functionality. Gifsicle has at least 15 options (probably more), and I think I used about 3 of them to produce some killer animated GIFs.

    Then of course there are the browser, office tools, GIMP etc. that others have suggested. However, none of that GUI OSS has lasted long on my machine. ABIword is the exception. I think I put it to actual use *once* to bang out a simple letter for my Dad. Nothing against ABIword; it's just that for some strange reason no GUI OSS has really worked its way into my heart.

    --
    For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
  114. Miranda - IM client by earthdark · · Score: 1

    Miranda of course. It's an open-source IM client that currently supports ICQ, and MSN, a Yahoo plugin is also in the works. It's lightweight, incredibly customizable and no stupid ad anywhere.

    You might want to include VirtualDub, in case they want to do some simple encoding or audio ripping from videos, or just to find out what damn codec a video file uses.

    Lastly, there's Litestep for those who want a prettier and more customizable shell.

  115. Check the Open CD site by Sepper · · Score: 1

    I'm suprised to see that no one talked about the OpenCD project... http://www.theopencd.org/ I always use the list as reference to get most (free) Win32 applications i need... Even if the project looks dead now (not much messages on the developpement mailing list), it's a good start for that "650 megs of solid gold"

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    I live in Soviet Canuckistan you insensitive clod!
  116. Are you going to post a final list or make... by rindeee · · Score: 1

    ...ISO available? Just curious as I'd like to have such thing myself. ER .

  117. TheOpenCD Project by MarkWPiper · · Score: 1

    TheOpenCD project's ambitious mission statement was "To compile and distribute A CD-ROM containing a selection of high quality open source software for use on proprietary operating systems." They got so far as coming up with a great list of open source software. Since then, the project seems to have died completely. I think it is very important to the open source community that a project like this is completed. Who's up for getting it going again?

  118. Bookmarks by incripshin · · Score: 1

    Make sure to include .url files to freshmeat and SourceForge so when they feel more comfortable with open source, they can go here for more.

  119. (Meta) Comment posting rate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought you only trolled! What's with the good suggestions?

    Getting his karma up. A fellow who has negative karma can't post more than 2 comments per 24 hours, right?

  120. Some that I like by bwt · · Score: 2


    If you like text editors, JEdit is great and it crosses over because it is java. Another java app is LimeWire, a gnutella client.

    I'm surprised nobody meantioned Apache. A web server is a usefull thing to somebody with broadband.

    A good game is freeciv, a Civilization knock off.

  121. It's been done already (or at least in progress) by acoffee · · Score: 1

    There's an identical project under way at TheOpenCD.org, where they already voted for applications to be included, and have a categorized list, with links and reviews, including rating for documentation, ease-of-use, appearance...

    And don't forget to check out GNU Software for Windows

  122. 1 line of perl by painehope · · Score: 1

    perl -pi -e "s/.*(vfat|ntfs|msdos).*\n//g" /etc/fstab
    and a little bit of resize2fs or growe2fs magic ( it was growe2fs, wasn't it? i'm sitting on a rh7.3 box right now )....

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  123. Read the article? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone actually read the article?
    This is a Family with non-developers.
    They were not interested in running webservers, developing apps with gcc or writing PHP code.
    They probably want office-suits, webbrowsers, mp3 players, games, dvd-players. The common "family computer tools".

  124. furthurnet by rizzo420 · · Score: 1

    i do a lot of trading of taper/trader friendly bands. furthurnet is definitely cool. it's a p2p app that allows for searching of bands, show dates, sources, etc, etc, etc. it's pretty cool. it's open source too. it's ported to both linux and windows (not hard since it was written in java, which is the only bad thing about it). it also uses pcp (packet chain protocol) so users can piggy-back off each other. it's pretty cool. i wish more people with the shows i want used it though.

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    1. Re:furthurnet by whipping_post · · Score: 1

      Don't know what your timeframe is on this CD, but 1.6.0 of FurthurNet should be out in the next few weeks; it promises a quantum leap in stability and memory performance over 1.5.9.

  125. here are a few by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    kmeleon. no-skin lightweight mozilla


    virtual dub video editor


    all the sysinternals programs useful system utilities


    miranda icq clone

  126. since freeamp has disappeared by thexdane · · Score: 1

    well since i was looking for freeamp the other day and i noticed it wasn't around any more, i found another free as in both speech and beer open source mp3 player. it's called zinf

    freeamp is good just wish the website was still around. zinf seems to be the exact same thing tho just with a name change.

    1. Re:since freeamp has disappeared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Erm, zinf used to be freeamp - it's the same project under a different name.

      The people behind winamp objected to the use of 'amp' as it's a trademarked term or something, so they guys behind freeamp renamed the project zinf (standing for zinf is not free*mp) .. and yes, they're both funky :)

  127. Falcon's Eye by Skwirl · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have a feeling that most Windows folks would roll their eyes at Nethack's ASCII graphics. I know, I speak sacrilege, but we can win over the infidels with the delights of the Falcon's Eye Nethack wrapper.

  128. Limewire by asv108 · · Score: 2
    Limewire is probably the most popular open source P2P client. Its released under the GPL plus its coded in java so it runs on all the most popular platforms. If you download the CVS version there is no spyware.

    One tip though, if you are trying to run the latest CVS version in linux, edit the gui/run file and change all the semicolons to colons in order for limewire to run on Linux.

  129. DScaler by csmorris · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this one yet. DScaler is a fine GPL'ed BT8x8 tuner and video deinterlacer for Win32. It certainly beats the pants off of the ATI crap that came with my card, and looks and performs better than xawtv for me. All in all, a 10/10 in my book.

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  130. I don't how you use it, but by Pac · · Score: 2

    I used CDex last year in a production project: large batches of interviews on CD and MD had to be converted (or recorded into the computer for the MD files) to MP3, cleaned and edited.

    CDex never showed a single glitch. It was fast, clean and easy to use. CoolEdit, the proprietary program used to treat the sound files, on the other hand, had problems saving MP3 (it would cut the last few seconds of a file).

  131. Already a project for this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  132. Short list by JoeNotCharles · · Score: 1

    Psi, the Jabber client
    A good music player - how's freeamp doing these days?
    Don't forget the emulators!

  133. lbreakout2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:lbreakout2 by G�tz · · Score: 1

      The other lgames aren't bad either, especially the tetris clone ltris.

  134. How do I change by xintegerx · · Score: 1

    I just installed mandrake 6.0 (yeah i know 9.0 is out, just a coincidence.)

    SOrry for being Offtopic, but how do I change resolutions in mandrake 6.0? I have like a 3xx by 3xx resolution so can't figure anything out! I need to have at least 1024 going then I will be able to figure out the gui because right now I can't see the whole screen.

    Thank you guys!

    1. Re:How do I change by nagora · · Score: 2
      If you press control-alt- what happens?

      TWW

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    2. Re:How do I change by nagora · · Score: 2
      That should be controll-alt-, but /. filtered it out as an unrecognised HTML tag!

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    3. Re:How do I change by xintegerx · · Score: 1

      Nothing happens!

    4. Re:How do I change by nagora · · Score: 2
      Okay. Send me a copy of the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. My email address is my initials (at the foot of the message) followed by the "at" sign followed by my initials again followed by .cx.

      If you don't have an /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 then send /etc/X11/XF86Config.

      TWW

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  135. It's GPL, actually by thumperward · · Score: 2, Funny

    so, ummm, there.

    - Chris

    1. Re:It's GPL, actually by FPhlyer · · Score: 1

      That's great.
      But right now I'm only getting that as hearsay. Can you point me to someplace on the site that specifies that the Source is GPL?

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    2. Re:It's GPL, actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      http://www.limewire.org/project/www/gnu.html

      Next time, look yourself. You could have found that in the time it took you to post to Slashdot. (Go to limewire.com. Click on "Limewire Open Source". Click on "License".) People will like you more if you aren't pathetically lazy.

    3. Re:It's GPL, actually by ceejayoz · · Score: 2

      On the left-hand sidebar of LimeWire.com there's a link that says "LimeWire Open Source". That links you to LimeWire.org, which has a link in the left-hand bar called "License" - which says:

      GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
      Version 2, June 1991
      Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
      59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307
      USA


      And so on and so forth.

      That took 10 seconds of Googling, FYI.

  136. Open Source Gaming by llamaluvr · · Score: 1

    Tux Racer is on Windows, too. And ZSNES is perhaps the finest, most user-friendly emulator available.

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  137. Trillian, metapad, opera, putty, phoenix, xxcopy by awerg · · Score: 1

    Here is a list of software I install on all my company laptops.

    trillian (multi-IM client)
    http://www.trillian.cc/

    metapad (text editor)
    http://www.liquidninja.com/metapad/

    opera (web browser, email client...)
    http://www.opera.com

    putty (ssh client)
    http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtath am/putty/

    phoenix (web browser)
    http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/

    xxcopy (better than xcopy) I use it in my backup batch files.
    http://www.xxcopy.com

    Here is a list of a few websites that I frequent for free windows software.

    http://www.shellcity.net
    http://www.tinyapps.or g
    http://www.freewarehome.com

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  138. ffdshow MPEG4 decoder by DeeKayWon · · Score: 1

    ffdshow is an open-source MPEG-4 video decoder that handles all of the various DivX :-) variants as well as XVid and MPEG4v1/2/3. The big upside of it is that it's easy to install and is far more reliable and less intrusive than the poorly-assembled codec packs floating around out there. If you only want to view movies made with those codecs, then it's by far the best choice.

  139. Where did everybody else start? by leishen · · Score: 0

    I'm trying to figure out what I started with, and I wonder if I differed significantly from everybody else, though I'm probably a more recent learner than most people who post her. I basically started with a terminal and a non-working video card. After that worked and X was up, I stuck to ssh, pico, and a browser. Mozilla's the way to go there.

    Also, I think about the functions I wanted when I switched to GNU/Linux. Basically, for the normal user that i was, I wanted an AIM client (gaim and AIM both work in windows and linux), a media player (mplayer became it, though there are many others), an office program/suite (staroffice works, I hear openoffice also rocks), an email program (mozilla has one, but there are others), and an mp3 player (winamp now works in Linux, and who can leave out xmms).

    In the games area, UT, UT2003, and Quake3 all work in Linux. If the target audience is not into FPS games, then Tuxracer also has a working windows port demo, and GLTron is cool. That's pretty much what I started with, and all but mplayer really have ports to both. That's all I can think of offhand, though I'm sure I missed something.

  140. Blender by NamShubCMX · · Score: 1
    For the family's aspiring artist... blender!

    (You'll have to wait until the code source is actually free, though, which should be Oct. 12th.)

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  141. Miranda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Miranda ICQ....... biznatch!h

  142. Daves Quick Search Deskbar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://notesbydave.com/toolbar/doc.htm - one tool worth its space on the taskbar, and open source too.

  143. HexEdit by billd · · Score: 1

    HexEdit is pretty handy, there's a free version:

    http://www.expertcomsoft.com/

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  144. Virtualdub and Tmpgenc! nt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

  145. First off what do they do with their systems? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

    Are they casual bussiness users, or they programmers, gamers, artists, or hobbests?

    The reason why I am asking this, is because their is so much software that is designed for so many different things. If your friend is an artist, would he or she like Perl? I think not. However, that person might love learning the gimp or blender.

    For hobbiests, I recommend litestep because the gui looks cool and they like to tinker with things, as well as apache and the gimp. Apache is cool for those hobbiests who run their own web servers. If you have high speed internet access try SuSe's live-cd. It boots suse linux from the cd and does not install anything on the hard drive. This makes it safe for newbies to goof around.

    For programmers, I would recommend perl, python, ruby, gvim, jtext, and netbeans. Gvim for win32 comes with an easy-mode so that even your mother can use it. Basically it always stays in edit mode. Of course without learning the special commands it may seem simplistic and outdated to a newbie. Emacs users please do not start a flame war. I am sorry but their is no easy-mode that I am aware of for the win-32 version of Xemacs. If their is then feel free to flame me and I will recommend Xemacs be included as well to make things fair. Jtext might be a better solution because its all point and click. Also Win-32 developers would feel right at home with the Netbeans ide. Support for other langages besides java is now being included. This makes this ide hot! You may want to include the win-32 version of gcc if its mature enough. Last I heard it still was quite far behind the unix version but it sure beats paying for an ms compiler. Last but not least their is free database software like mysql which would be great for any newbie programmer who wants to learn sql but can not afford SQL-server or Oracle.

    For office users, the only thing I could recommend is openoffice. Of course he/she probably already has ms-office so this might not appeal. Windows is designed from the ground up as an office OS. THey would probably prefer windows over linux untill paladium and product activation per pc becomes the norm.

    Gamers would not be interested in any free software I can think of unless they are interested in game development. Where they would like all the things I mentioned above for "programmers".

    Artists would like blender, and the gimp.

    Last but not least, for computer professionals I would recommend cygwin from redhat's website. It really is a unix in windows and included bash, gcc, apache, vim, emacs, mysql,postgresql, etc. Great to learn unix and have a taste of unix. Of course I recommend to actually use linux if you need to do any unix related work because linux is a native environment. Some packages do not compile properly under cygwin like they do in a native unix environment and unix and windows have different models for threads and processes causing some cygwin compilied apps ( cough cough apache) to perform poorly. However the new native win-32 version of apache2 is more Windows friendly.

    Oh, I found a few cool free mp3/ogg rippers from tucows. I believe its called FreeRip.

    So basically to sum it up its FreeRip, jtext, gvim, netbeans, apache, mysql, cygwin, Perl, Python, Ruby, openoffice, mozilla, blender and the gimp.

  146. Well *that* sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So is AMP going to go after WinAmp next? Friggin Tyco anyway, bastards. If they don't soon fire all the thieves at the top, their whole little empire will go belly up, then AMP will be available again.

  147. The OpenCD Project by gnugnugnu · · Score: 1

    You should definately take a look at the OpenCD project
    http://www.theopencd.org/thelist/
    All software to be included in the CD must be Open Source (OSI approved license).
    The CD does not include Cygwin only programs or programs that require an XServer.

  148. OSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't know if it would be considered open source but the best email that I have found is Pegasus Mail.

  149. Just in time for xmas? by byrd77 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hope he's not planning on putting this cd together quickly... just /.'d all the mirrors for these pacakages real good.

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  150. Crack Attack by Zakabog · · Score: 1

    This has probably got to be one of the most addicting games I've ever played, Crack Attack! It's open source, works in windows and linux, uses open gl, and it's a game based on tetris attack. The score to beat on the site (4135 I think) is actually from one of my friends, we play this game all the time. It has very nice multiplayer support and a game browser is in the works (although probably in the distant future.

    You'll spend weeks playing to get the highest score on the list, then you spend even more time trying to get 1000. The game is sure to keep anyone entertained for hours.

  151. Audacity, Dev-C++, AbiWord by Frodo420024 · · Score: 1
    Audacity (audio editor) belongs on such a CD.

    Dev-C++ is a very nifty development environment.

    And for AbiWord / OpenOffice - take both! I use primarily AbiWord 'cause it's so light, and OpenOffice when I need something more advanced.

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  152. virtualdub by ddent · · Score: 2

    http://virtualdub.sf.net

    It's an excellent tool for manipulating video files. It has the ability to do batch conversions, and for some tasks, is faster then Ulead MediaStudio Pro or Adobe Premiere. While the amount of things you can do with it is limited, if it does what you need, it's a great tool to do it with. Plus it's not squimish about using any codecs you have on your system.

  153. VNC for remote control by Politas · · Score: 3, Informative

    Probably not much call for remote control software for most end-users, but MS is promoting it in XP for consumers to use when calling up helpdesks, so VNC is a great GPLed solution.

    http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/

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  154. armagetron! by I+Want+GNU! · · Score: 2

    Armagetron is a great 3D version of tron! I love it! Slick graphics and awesome sound effects and gameplay. I recommend the latest beta version, since the stable one doesn't have a good AI.

    1. Re:armagetron! by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      You beat me to it!

      I was going to suggest this program. I was checking out my SuSE distro one day and found it by chance already installed. I speant 7 hours straight playing it, I ruined the whole day. Later on I got people up here at work hooked on it and we were playing 1st level vs. 2nd level helpdesk Tron for hours.

      Notes Win vs. Linux.

      The Linux version always seems to have a better AI in my opinion, the Windows version seems to have some minor differences like better randomization that I like better. I'm sure this varies by which revision. The Movie pack is always a nice addition. Note: this game uses Open GL to the extreame, the Linux version will tax your video card to the max and is barely playable in software mode on most systems. The Windows version of course prefers a good video card but Windows seems to have better software 3D.

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  155. Without it, Windows is useless by dick980 · · Score: 1

    Any Windows machine would be useless without a copy of solitaire, although you will need Python.

  156. jEdit - the best cross-platform text editor by ylikone · · Score: 1

    http://jedit.org The best free, open-source, cross-platform, programmer's text editor available!!! I switched from UltraEdit and TextPad to jEdit about 2 years ago. I code for a living. jEdit is awesome! Customizable to the extreme baby!

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  157. The OSS Windows users really need... by Francis+Avila · · Score: 1

    ...is WINE.

    Too bad there's no port of WINE to Windows.

    On a more serious note, the word processors and office-productivity software of the OSS world need exposure to the unwashed masses. It's here that there is the greatest dependence on Microsoft among average users. If you go by the theory that joe user wants a computer for applications and not operating systems (my personal theory, and I think MS's as well, which I think is why they are always trying to conflate the OS and its applications), then what one should do is get them hooked onto the applications they use. It's just a tiny leap from there to running the same application over a different OS.

    Seriously, sometimes I doubt why OS's matter at all if one simply wants to use a computer for ordinary work. It seems totally irrelevant what OS is being run, as long as it meets some basic criterion for stability and performance. Only serious applications need careful choice of OS.

  158. WORKSFORME by yerricde · · Score: 1

    basically it spent more time crashing than working. Maybe it has improved dramatically in that department

    What version did you try? On Windows 98se, Windows ME, and Windows 2000, GIMP 1.2.3 mostly WORKSFORME. I haven't tried the new version 1.2.4 however.

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  159. Emulation For Nostalgia by jwbrown77 · · Score: 0

    Snes9x is a great Super Nintendo emulator, and is open source. Although you'll have to find some roms, but they're out there.

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  160. Bring out the Gimp by gnugnugnu · · Score: 1
    The Gimp is an obvious choice, as are Mozilla, Abiword, Putty, OpenOffice, Vim, maybe also Activestate Komodo, but i am running out of suggestions so maybe take a look at Eclipse from IBM

    Thanks to Tor Lillqvist for making Gimp for windows possible.


    I eagerly await the day when i can include GoBe Productive on this list, it is really 'suite' (if you will forgive the pun).

  161. Ghostview/GSview by AJWM · · Score: 5, Informative

    A great little multiplatform Postscript and PDF (Acrobat) viewer.

    Here's the Ghostscript, home page, and the GSview-specific page.

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    1. Re:Ghostview/GSview by davilan · · Score: 1

      It has a nice bonus.

      You can save text from a 'password locked' PDF.

      The other apps I found for this cost hundreds...

    2. Re:Ghostview/GSview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be careful. GSview is not free software.

    3. Re:Ghostview/GSview by ghostgum · · Score: 1
      No, not free software according to FSF definitions. The current version uses the Aladdin Free Public Licence.

      The next version will use AFPL for the Windows version, and GPL for the Unix version.

      (author of GSview)

    4. Re:Ghostview/GSview by ghostgum · · Score: 1
      They not only view PDF, but they also create PDF. Set up a PostScript printer driver on Windows and attach it to FILE:. Print from any Windows application. Open in GSview, check that it is correct, then "File | Convert", pdfwrite device, 720dpi, and OK. A few seconds later and you have your PDF file.

      If you want automate this process, see RedMon. This allows you to connect the Windows printer port directly to ghostscript. Apologies for the messy configuration!

      (Author of GSview and RedMon).

  162. Windows is Open-Source? by javacowboy · · Score: 1, Troll

    Since when? Did aliens kidnap Gates and Balmer and replace them with clones?

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    1. Re:Windows is Open-Source? by TheDanish · · Score: 1

      No, that's silly. Actually, as it turns out, Gates and Balmer were actually moles for the FSF.

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  163. Vim. No, I'm serious. by Robin+Hood · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seriously -- if the idea is to make a Linux partition seem less daunting, put the Win32 version of Vim on there. It won't take up too much room (about 3.7 MB or so as of version 6.1) and it's a very straightforward install. Reasons for including vim? Well:

    1) Every UNIX machine in the world has vi on there somewhere. Emacs may or may not be installed, depending on the preference of the sysadmin. But if you at least know four or five basic editing & navigation commands in vi, then you'll be fine if you wind up trying to use a strange UNIX system somewhere.

    2) You can actually describe it in a way that won't be horrifically intimidating. Tell them it's a replacement for Notepad with a lot more features. And you can use the mouse if you want, but there's keyboard shortcuts for everything: once you learn them, you'll be twice as fast with Vim as with any other editor.

    3) Vim's built-in tutorial (":help tutor") -- I wouldn't even mention it as a possibility without this one.

    Yeah, a lot of people will hate Vim and run back to Notepad. But if they try it and get at least as far as finishing the tutorial, they won't be COMPLETELY lost when they first try Linux and have to edit a text file.

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    1. Re:Vim. No, I'm serious. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      1) Every UNIX machine in the world has vi on there somewhere. Emacs may or may not be installed, depending on the preference of the sysadmin. But if you at least know four or five basic editing & navigation commands in vi, then you'll be fine if you wind up trying to use a strange UNIX system somewhere.
      And then you'll know just enough to install emacs.
    2. Re:Vim. No, I'm serious. by Yarn · · Score: 1

      Back when I first used linux I used to purposefully remove vi because I didn't know how to quit it. It scared me. So it's quite likely that there are unix-like machines that don't have vi on them.

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    3. Re:Vim. No, I'm serious. by tholti · · Score: 1
      It won't take up too much room (about 3.7 MB or so as of version 6.1)

      You've also to include the sources with your CD. That will make in case of vim for win another 1.7 MB.

    4. Re:Vim. No, I'm serious. by slamb · · Score: 1
      You can actually describe it in a way that won't be horrifically intimidating. Tell them it's a replacement for Notepad with a lot more features. And you can use the mouse if you want, but there's keyboard shortcuts for everything: once you learn them, you'll be twice as fast with Vim as with any other editor.

      In this spirit, why don't you put jEdit on the CD. I've oscillated between vim and jEdit personally, but there's no question which one I'd rather give to a novice. jEdit is much, much simpler to understand. It's graphical (no, gvim isn't graphical). It also has many keyboard shortcuts, though not quite to vim's taste. I have hopes it will even be capable of moded operation through the Vimulator plugin (which needs a lot of work still).

      It's mostly a programmer's editor, but there's no reason to ever use notepad when it's around.

    5. Re:Vim. No, I'm serious. by Tim+Browse · · Score: 2

      Someone once pointed out to me that a lot of people know how to quit the default Unix editors without writing anything back to the file, and don't know how to do anything else. :)

      e.g. for vi, they know :q! and that's it

      I used to know Emacs, but it's been so long. Meta-C, Meta-X?

      Tim

    6. Re:Vim. No, I'm serious. by TopherC · · Score: 1

      I'd only make one amendment to your advice here:

      If the Windows users are comfortable with DOS and love using EDLN to edit their files, write HTML, etc... THEN they'll love vi -- its so much more intuitive and user-friendly. Otherwise, keep it off the CD.

  164. Re:While There is Warmongering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    until the next time dubbya (or indeed any subsequent president) needs an excuse to distract the masses from the fact that theres an election coming up.

    history can be useful sometimes.

  165. Sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just searched my one Win2K system and realized that all of the software on there is crap. Except for Putty, WinSCP, and HTML-Kit.

  166. use jEdit by ylikone · · Score: 1
    Just use jEdit, which is free, cross-platform, open-source and extremely customizable text editor. I'm a programmer and have been using it for 2 years now and I love it.

    http://jedit.org

    Try it out.

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  167. cost arsehole by child_of_mercy · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    my LAMP (Linux Apache Mysql PHP) box cost me exactly the price of the hardware.

    can you do me a quote for an equivalent IIS/ASP/ODBC box?

    cheers.

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  168. Open Source Tux Racer site by Politas · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://tuxracer.sourceforge.net/

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  169. RocksnDiamonds by dryeo · · Score: 1

    RocksnDiamonds, excellent game for younger (and older) people. http://artsoft.org/rocksndiamonds/
    Dave

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  170. Color correction is patented by yerricde · · Score: 2

    You are limited to only 24 bits

    That's a problem for some, but not for me. I work in mostly web graphics and video game graphics, which are often dithered down to 16 or 256 colors anyway.

    If there is color management or matching in this

    No. The good algorithms for doing that are patented in the United States, and the Free Software Foundation is headquartered in the United States.

    or any other program available on Linux I'd like to know about it.

    If you buy Codeweavers products, perhaps they could improve Wine to the point where it can run most of Adobe Photoshop.

    I'm not sure if the gamma and curve control is adequate, although given the first two limitations, it doesn't really matter.

    Gamma (Image > Colors > Levels...) and curves (Image > Colors > Curves...) work for me.

    BTW, is anybody working on a deep color rewrite of the gimp?

    A rewrite of GIMP based on GEGL (a more generic graphics library) is in the works. I don't know whether or not GEGL supports deep color.

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    1. Re:Color correction is patented by nikolas · · Score: 1

      OK, this is just a thing i think i remember: I thought I read something about hooks or an api for color correction/measurement being already implemented in X, but nobody using it... Does anybody have more specific information?

  171. Fwink by fahrvergnugen · · Score: 2

    It's a little rough, but Fwink is a great replacement for webcam32 that runs on Windows. It's even packaged in a nicely polished msi installer.

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  172. For video editing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    VirtualDub and TMPEG! Those two programs are awe-inspiringly cool. Especially the plugins for VD. Good stuff!

    Oh, and MAME kicks ass.

  173. Re:If you can wait a bit (Blender) by AJWM · · Score: 2

    Yeah, Blender is cool. It does help if you have some kind of manual to get started, though. ("The Blender Book" -- Linux Journal Press/No Starch Press -- worked for me) Blender (nor, I imagine, any similar program) doesn't lend itself well to learning by just playing around with it.

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  174. you need a compiler to use LAME by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative

    LAME [mp3dev.org], the MP3 encoder that CDex includes

    LAME is good, but it still ain't an MP3 encoder. It's the source code to an MP3 encoder. It won't be an MP3 encoder until Fraunhofer's U.S., German, and Japanese patents expire in the early to mid 2010s. Yes, binaries are available, but downloading those may be just as infringing as downloading proprietary console game ROMs.

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    1. Re:you need a compiler to use LAME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +2 informative? more like -1 wrong, -1 stupid

      LAME is good, but it still ain't an MP3 encoder. It's the source code to an MP3 encoder.
      You are a retard. That's like saying "X isn't a graphical user interface, it's the source code to a graphical user interface."
      Yes, binaries are available, but downloading those may be just as infringing as downloading proprietary console game ROMs.
      So what? It doesn't change the fact that, dispite the name, LAME is now an mp3 encoder - that changed when they got rid of the remaining iso source.

    2. Re:you need a compiler to use LAME by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 1

      LAME, Ogg, conversion protocols, source code...?

      Let's keep in mind that the average user does not care about technical details, like different recording qualities (to a degree), or size/quality ratios, etc. They just want to know that CDex will let you save CD's to your computer, period. Once they get used to that they can start learning about different file formats, compression methods, and nuances of audio-quality tweaking.

  175. GL Tron by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 2

    GLTron is a EXCELLENT rendition of Tron's light cycle game, for up to 4 players. It uses OpenGL and renders a beautiful arena completely faithful to the movie complete with a recognizer flying overhead. It works with up to 4 players, as well.

    Also, did anyone mention the GL Quake2 demo?

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  176. Open Office of 13 megs: by El+Jynx · · Score: 2, Informative

    602Suite. Check http://www.software602.com/

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    1. Re:Open Office of 13 megs: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      602 will not work. It's closed source. If you want a compact word processor (which is still open source), AbiWord is your choice.

  177. zx? by Assaf+Lavie · · Score: 1

    How do you explain the plethora of X's and Z's in OSS titles? Is it a Unix related thing?

  178. Games: BZFlag by TimRiker · · Score: 1
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  179. Can you post the ISO somewhere? by Delgul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would be very interested to have a copy... Can you post the ISO somewhere for us to burn? I have some interested family members too, as I guess otheres here will have too!

    1. Re:Can you post the ISO somewhere? by gone.fishing · · Score: 1

      ditto

    2. Re:Can you post the ISO somewhere? by tholti · · Score: 1

      Yes please! I'm also interested.

    3. Re:Can you post the ISO somewhere? by benjamindees · · Score: 1

      Yes, umm, preferrably right here on Slashdot. In fact, why don't you just throw it on your Win32 server and submit a story with a link to it.

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  180. File sharing??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about gnutella and freenet these can be used
    by everyone and IMO are killer apps.
    I myself like LimeWire which is Java so I don't know
    if it fits the bill.

  181. Star Control 2 by BShaftoe · · Score: 1

    There are some lovely people in the world that reverse engineered this old game using OSS. This game won game of the year in 1992. Go to http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/sc2/.

  182. Bomb by yetimon · · Score: 1

    Bomb (http://draves.org/bomb/) - definatly fits into the "beautiful" category. From the site...

    "Bomb is a visual-musical instrument. It uses alife, and is alife. It runs on your PC and produces animated organic graphics in response to the keyboard, audio music, or on its own."

    I do a bit of VJing at dance parties, and this always goes down a treat. Linux and Mac versions avaliable as well.

  183. Make sure you include GNU Parted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The partition editor they will need when they decide to switch to Linux :-)

    Oh, actually, don't bother, they won't want to keep their Windows partition anyway, so they can just use fdisk :-)

  184. The Unofficial Virtualdub Support Forums by Spire · · Score: 3, Informative

    VirtualDub is in my opinion the best application of its kind, commercial or otherwise. I use it on a daily basis, and it gives me precise and total control over my video processing. Not to mention the unbelievable assembly-optimized speed! VirtualDub is truly the Photoshop of video capture and linear editing.

    Those interested in VirtualDub might want to check out the new Unofficial Virtualdub Support Forums. They're a good place to get tips and help if you're just getting started with VirtualDub. Even though they're not "official" VirtualDub forums, VirtualDub author Avery Lee does drop by every once in a while.

    (Disclosure: I am one of the volunteer moderators on the site, in the newly inaugurated and not-yet-very-active VirtualDub Development Forum.)

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  185. SmartFTP - Free, but not OSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Others Here, which is not maintained by myself... not that you know who anonymous is.

  186. TV card by leomekenkamp · · Score: 1

    When your target audience has a TV card in their computer, be sure to include dscaler

    It is a neat program that takes away those ugly interlace lines you can see while watching moving pictures. Only drawback is that it is Windows only and needs a 400MHz+ x86

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  187. The Xitami webserver by ites · · Score: 2, Informative
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  188. Yes, here's a selection: by namekuseijin · · Score: 1

    Replace IE with Mozilla

    Replace Works with OpenOffice.org

    Replace Paintbrush with the Gimp

    Replace the damned Notepad with Emacs (not sure regular joes will ever use it)

    and finally, if the need for a good shell ever arises, be sure to get bash installed so that command line interface doesn't get confounded with lameness

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  189. There already is a project doing this!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Weird, nobody has pointed to http://www.theopencd.org site which kinda does the exact thing you want....
    Maybe you could help there.

  190. Cygwin-based ports, rootless X by expro · · Score: 1

    I guess my favorite things for Windows users have not been created yet.

    Remember, this is for non-geeks and families, so Cygwin is out (even though I love it) and games are in.

    First, I think that if someone spent the time to create a decent UI-driven Cygwin-based "ports" or similar system empowering non-geek users to get and install the latest software which is runnable on windows, that would really tap into the power of open source for these users.

    Second, if Windows users had a rootless XFree86 available to them that they could use (like on Darwin), they could take a much deeper run at UI-based software and not be limited to just a few like Mozilla or OpenOffice that have spent the time to program to the Windows UI. I realize an X-based UI might not be as thrilling, but it makes much larger inroads for the Windows user.

  191. GLTron? by Lispy · · Score: 1

    Ever tried Armagetron??

    And of course the legendary BZflag, a cool 3D Tank Shooter...

    1. Re:GLTron? by Brazilian+Joe · · Score: 1

      Yes!!! Armaetron is MUCH, MUCH more entertaining, addicting, and multiplayer-funnying than GlTron.
      Armagetron on Sourceforge

  192. Some more stuff by jilles · · Score: 2

    There are several OSS jabber clients that are worth mentioning (don't use them myself though). Then there's fantastic editors such as JEdit and Jext. Since we are entering the area of development tools, netbeans and eclipse also need to be mentioned.

    Warftpd is a fantastic ftp deamon under GPL (use it every day). Jdictionary is a nice dictionary app.

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  193. Better Freedom by Sr.+Zezinho · · Score: 0

    Understanding the value of the freedom that OSS gives to users is a good thing.

    The next step should be to understand that they are free to program their computers.

    Most computer users are good candidates for casual programming, but they have no idea how easy it is to write simple scripts to fit the needs of their daily tasks.

    Make sure you include ActiveState Batteries Included distribution of Tcl/Tk and make sure that your users run the demos. It can be a revelation for them. It was for me.

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  194. Best open Source software by CavemanKiwi · · Score: 1

    Quake!

  195. SDLBlock by G�tz · · Score: 1
    SDLBlock is a clone of Blockout, that's tetris in 3D.

    The Windows version is fine, but I couldn't get it to run on Linux (it just crashes the X server).

  196. Videolan Client and MPlayer by roryh · · Score: 2, Informative

    Include vlc as a great DVD / VCD player, and maybe MPlayer too.

  197. sharpdevelop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A great open source C#.net IDE written in c#. Not available on *nix (or does it run on mono?). I've been using it to develop c# projects on win2K and it's pretty good AND saves on the Highway Robbery that is VS.NET. here's the c# homepage

    1. Re:sharpdevelop by ninejaguar · · Score: 1

      Holey Canalone!!

      Someone mod this up! I had no idea this was in the works.

      Wait a second. Wasn't there a Microsoft License issue that stated something like "You can't develop GPL code with our products.". AFAIK, the .NOT Framework and compiler is a M$ product. This product seems to have made been made using the .NOT Framework.

  198. I've got a question... by Phoenix823 · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know of any GPL page layout programs, a la QuarkXPress, that have a decent, stable Win32 port? I've got a friend who's looking for a cheap solution that works on Windows (so everyone can play with it, I guess).

    1. Re:I've got a question... by Phoenix823 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure how well that'll work. She isn't very technically inclined, although there might be a good visual TeX editor out there somewhere. Thanks for the suggestion.

  199. Open Source project that does this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HEY

    theres a whole open source project dedicated to producing this very CD - all with a nice purty installer to keep the punters happy.

    find it at:

    http://www.theopencd.org/

    I keep seeing this idea on various forums (in fact Ive had it myself) - if everyone just contributed to this project we could have a great CD of open source software for windows that gets updated every 3 months or so - think a windows distro minus the kernel & windows managers

  200. Anti-Virus Program by superyooser · · Score: 1
    I haven't seen anybody mention a virus scanner, so I thought I'd bring this to your attention. It's not open source, but it is free.

    AVG 6.0 Free Edition

    The only downside is that the data file is updated only about once a week, and you have to be careful about which version of the file you get. But I doubt the typical family PC's virus scanner gets updated more than once or twice a year anyway, if ever.

    1. Re:Anti-Virus Program by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've recently started to use it since my subscription to Symantec ran out.
      So far very nice and it can be set to auto update.
      My installation does this every 14 days at 7:45 am which is the default settings.
      It does not use scheduler to do this either which is a plus.

  201. WinVim! by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

    And if they don't run screaming from the room you know you've got some future geeks on your hand. :)

    KFG

    1. Re:WinVim! by vbweenie · · Score: 1

      What's in the box? Pain...

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  202. text editor, zip and ftp client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really would inlude the text editor "syn" (http://syn.sourceforge.net/), the ftp client "smartftp" (http://www.smartftp.com/) and the zip utility "7-zip" (http://www.7-zip.org/). Have you ever heard of "Trillian" (http://www.trillian.cc)?

  203. MSN client - ccmsn by usheletz · · Score: 1

    free msn client, written in tcl
    not nearly as feature reach as original product, but works anyway
    http://msn.compucreations.com/

  204. Re:Celestia all the way! (and Stellarium too) by pyrrho · · Score: 4, Informative

    it is most godlike of you to mention this incredible program that I had not ever used before! I cannot believe how cool this is. Especially since I just a week or two ago went searching for such a program (much lower standards had I) and didn't find it. And the contributer sites with all kinds of spacecraft and moon models etc. etc. I have been wanting this program for years!

    btw, in my search I did find another very cool program which renders the sky accurately and beautifully, which is also quite impressive. You might like it.

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  205. how's about bash? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for the old DOS nostal-geeks...*g*

  206. irfanview! http://irfanview.tuwien.ac.at by hboer · · Score: 1

    Great image viewer, simple changes.

  207. Lots of stuff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ethereal, FreeAMP, VirtualDub, OpenOffice, DCPlusPlus, Eraser, freshmeat.net is your friend ;-)

  208. POV-Ray isn't GPLed -- not even Open Source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    POV-Ray is free (as in beer) and comes with the source but it is not under the GPL and the license doesn't meet the requirements of teh Open Source definition.

    Go for it. Use it. But please don't think everything is under the GPL.

  209. Workrave by jit · · Score: 1

    Just in case you can't get them away from their computer anymore.

    Seriously, it's a OSS-clone of the anti-RSI tool Workpace. It uses GTK2 and comes in a win32 installer package. I'm currently looking at the linux version, and it seems to work. I expect the windows version to do so as well.

    See http://workrave.sf.net for more.

  210. Free Doom by weird+mehgny · · Score: 2

    Whenever FreeDOOM gets finished, you could pack that with one of the enhanced Windows engine ports of the game such as ZDoom, PrBoom or JDoom.

  211. X-Chat win32 (experimental) by Ilgaz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What about X-Chat, win32 experimental build? It saved many people like me from Mirc (I hate its UI,sorry). Works real fine even though its experimental.

    http://www.xchat.org

  212. Dont forget Dia by fxj · · Score: 1

    Dia the diagram drawing program !

    http://dia-installer.sourceforge.net/

  213. HTTrack Website Copier by bodoschlecht · · Score: 1

    http://www.httrack.com

    Description from the Author:

    HTTrack is a free (libre/open source) and easy-to-use offline browser utility.

    It allows you to download a World Wide Web site from the Internet to a local directory, building recursively all directories, getting HTML, images, and other files from the server to your computer. HTTrack arranges the original site's relative link-structure. Simply open a page of the "mirrored" website in your browser, and you can browse the site from link to link, as if you were viewing it online. HTTrack can also update an existing mirrored site, and resume interrupted downloads. HTTrack is fully configurable, and has an integrated help system.

  214. Elite Space Adventure - newkind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.freshmeat.net/newkind/

    clone of the 80`s computer game "elite",
    which got a lot of us drugged on computing back then....

    and make sure you look at the tenebrae quake articles in slashdot.

  215. Direct Connect ++, The best file sharing program by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Check it out

    http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/

  216. [Add] : GNU Win is what you need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    see http://gnuwin.epfl.ch

    It's great !!! (version II of the CD available in a few days.)

  217. Re:While There is Warmongering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's all just bread and circuses...

  218. Dev C++ by Eudial · · Score: 1

    I found an Open Source c++ compilator that pretty much does the same as Visual C++ 6. (the difference is that it is free, and it is GPL)

    Bloodshed software Dev C++.

    http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html

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  219. CDex requires ASPI - EAC Doesn't by DrSkwid · · Score: 2

    I can't get ASPI drivers to work for me

    so I can't use CDex

    EAC installed and ran flawlessly [although I had to find and install LAME binaries myself.]

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  220. looks great until you press File .. Open by DrSkwid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    and then your average Windows user melts

    and looks like a serious piece of software

    gtk on windows looks like the amatureish piece of crud anyone has ever written.

    When a Photoshop user sees it and starts laughing the only defence you can come up with is "at least it's free and not warezed"

    And then you try and use a 3000x5000 pixel image and watch it die a slow death.

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    1. Re:looks great until you press File .. Open by SatoriGFX · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "When a Photoshop user sees it and starts laughing the only defence you can come up with is "at least it's free and not warezed" And then you try and use a 3000x5000 pixel image and watch it die a slow death." Gimp is slow on hi-rez images, no doubt. But Photoshop isn't exactly what I would call fast either. You talk about loading a 3000x5000 image. That's nothing. I can load an image ten times that size and paint with a 5000 pixel wide brush in REAL time in FilmFX64. This is all on a P3 800 w/512M. Try that with Photoshop. SatoriGFX.

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  221. XPilot, Blender ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    One of the Frontpage replacements would also be good.

  222. Just a fun program by Cloud77 · · Score: 1

    If you are looking for an Open Source program for Windows, download the Programmable Artificial Intelligence, available at the URL: http://utenti.quipo.it/claudioscordino/pai.html Enjoy.

  223. What about news and mail? by Sipaqu78 · · Score: 2, Informative

    All the guys, who are actively engaged in USENET should try Hamster a local Mail- and newsserver with great filtering capabilities and many other features. For reading newsgroups, there is IIRC no good Open-Source-newsreader, but if freeware is enough, you should try xnews

  224. hahahah by DrSkwid · · Score: 2

    loading all your settings into memory at boot for programs you might not even use during this session is such a Great Idea.

    and then make it a binary file format

    let's make it so you can't back it up with simple file copy operations

    Winner!!!

    how much better than a bunch of text files in /$MY_DOCUMENTS/Program Settings/*.ini

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    1. Re:hahahah by rikkards · · Score: 1

      let's make it so you can't back it up with simple file copy operations

      Sure you can copy user.dat and system.dat from Windows directory. (Course this is 9x) Haven't looked in XP/2000 but assume it is there in some format

    2. Re:hahahah by cscx · · Score: 1, Troll

      Jeez!

      First of all, the registry is a DATABASE. It's not loaded into memory in its entirety at once!

      Each branch has permissions defined by the system's (or NT Domain's) ACLs, just like NTFS!

      The registry can be backed up and restored simply in a multitude of ways. Just because you don't know how doesn't mean it can't be done.

      A lot better than text files. Faster and more organized.

      The registry is meant to give consistency and organization to Windows programs, something that *nix programs LACK. When you can prove that that unorganized shithole known as /etc/ (or is it {$HOME}/? Or something else? Face it - there is NO consistency under Unix) is better than a clean, organized database, you'll begin to catch my ear. Please, just try to begin to prove to me that flatfile text files are better than binary databases. Obviously you've never taken a single reasonably difficult programming class in your life.

    3. Re:hahahah by Peaker · · Score: 2

      The registry is quite a mess, and not really better than /etc and $HOME/.* text files.

      Its faster, and has potential to be much better, but not as its currently implemented and with its current organization structure.

      If the registry was at least created as a set of searchable binary search trees or such, so that searches can run in reasonable time, then it would really utilize the advantage of its structure. Currently, it takes a lot of time to search for keys, even when you know their exact name.

      Since the registry has its own API's, as everthing in Windows does, it sure makes it harder to use a set of simple utilities on it. The registry would be best utilized in the unix way, of reusing the simple file system API to access the registry. Doesn't have to be a set of .txt files in a directory. It can also sit in its own partition or file as its own type of filesystem, with fast binary search trees, key type information and such, but at least allow the many utilities that can access files operate on it! It puts all utilities that can access files at a huge waste.

      Obviously Microsoft programmers have never taken a single reasonably difficult programming class in their lives, or they're just not very smart and creative.

    4. Re:hahahah by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      First of all, the registry is a DATABASE. It's not loaded into memory in its entirety at once!

      What does being a database have to do with being in RAM or on disk? You can use (and I've seen a number of lightweight projects) using CSV as a database backend storage format, if you want a specific counterexample.

      Each branch has permissions defined by the system's (or NT Domain's) ACLs, just like NTFS!

      Yup. How much nicer it would be if MS had chosen to simply unify the two and put the data on disk as files.

      The registry can be backed up and restored simply in a multitude of ways. Just because you don't know how doesn't mean it can't be done.

      I've done some work with registry bits that are used to boot Windows. If you manage to bork them, you can't recover because you can't edit a dead registry from the Recovery Console -- I even had a second copy of Windows on the same machine just so that I could recover. No go. I did back up the registry entire and then overwrite it, but in terms of backing up and doing recover, the registry really sucks compared to an equivalent tree in the filesystem. It also means that all the tools you have to deal with the filesystem can't do anything with the registry...

      A lot better than text files. Faster and more organized.

      It is nice to have a single unified utility that's capable of presenting all your settings hierarchically.

      That being said, I really don't consider it worth the pain the registry inflicts. You can have hierarchies with text files, making them just as organized. Also, while it's probably faster, that also means that programs constantly check the registry (and some annoying ones poll it). Most UNIX programs parse and store the contents of their dotfiles at startup.

      When you can prove that that unorganized shithole known as /etc/ (or is it {$HOME}/? Or something else? Face it - there is NO consistency under Unix. /etc/ for systemwide settings, $HOME for user-level settings. Not that complicated.

      Obviously you've never taken a single reasonably difficult programming class in your life.

      Yes, I've noticed how UNIX folks tend to be less programmers than Windows folks. Uh, huh.

    5. Re:hahahah by Archfeld · · Score: 2

      go man go...you think the registry is bad..check out the win2k Active directory..sheesh..

      coming from a Unix world to M$ I see advantages and dis-ads for both side, but I will say under Unix, the average admin scripted and coded to a much greater degree than the windows admins I work with today. Not to imply lack of knowledge but the interface under unix encourages batch scripting while M$ does the opposite utilizing the GUI interface. For just one example look at formating disks..if you want a non-standard format you have to go to cli.

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  225. Utilities by pinguini · · Score: 1

    These are handy to have and easy to install:
    ATnotes - makes post-it notes on the desktop.
    jspager - a virtual desktop manager for windows.
    Both freeware.

  226. qcad by __aawsxp7741 · · Score: 2

    QCad is very usable 2D CAD system. I doubt it's full-featured enough for professional applications, but a good choice for the common user.

  227. SciTe Text/Source Code Editor by N8F8 · · Score: 2
    SciTe is based on Scintilla, a free source code editing component. Among other nifty features like a Tabbed interface option, is has syntax higlighting for:
    Ada
    Avenue
    C/C++/C#
    Eiffel
    HTML
    HTML with embedded JavaScript, VBScript, PHP and ASP
    IDL - both MSIDL and XPIDL
    INI, properties and similar
    Java
    JavaScript
    Lisp
    Lua
    Make
    Pascal
    Perl, but not all of the language
    Python
    Ruby
    SQL and PLSQL
    VB and VBScript
    XML
    And that's still not the complete list. I use it every day.
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    1. Re:SciTe Text/Source Code Editor by ninejaguar · · Score: 1

      I use this everyday as well. Its excellent, and tiny! Can't imagine working without it.

      Quite a few features that you can turn on by removing the "comments" character from the configuration file. Also, some very cool effects like magnify and more...

  228. I'm coding a little Windows VPN... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and will release it to open source when its done (tomorrow or such).

    with this tool you can, for example, play all lan games over internet, too (duke3d, doom etc., and things like warcraft 3 without proper registration key :)

    and, of course, you can use it for accessing your computer at home, even if its behind a firewall...

    tunneling is supported through UDP and TCP.

    no encryption / authentification yet. .byte

  229. Re:Trillian, metapad, opera, putty, phoenix, xxcop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Opera is not open source. I don't think Trillian is, either.

  230. Fwink, definitely fwink by DragonMagic · · Score: 2

    Fwink ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/fwink ) is great, open source, and for the general mainstream audience of Windows users. Upload video and images from your webcam to the web. And hardly anyone knows of this that I've seen.

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  231. cinelerra by yasa · · Score: 1

    I do not know VirtualDub (because I run Linux only).
    But you may check out Cinelerra an advanced compositing and editing system for native Linux at no cost to users.

    Yasa

    1. Re:cinelerra by slapshot · · Score: 1

      if you like constant crashes and complete waste of your time

    2. Re:cinelerra by yasa · · Score: 1

      I do not use Cinelerra for myslef, because I have currently no need in video software. My post was just a guide to an application under linux, may it be good or bad. So anyone is invited to post his/her opinions about this application (considering the use and recommended system of this application (it's something different, if it crashed under a 64MB System with a 233Mhz CPU, which isn't in the specification, than crashes under the recommended system for the recommended users and purpose)

      - Yasa

  232. DC++ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Add The DC++ Open Direct Connect Client

  233. FileZilla by Duchamp · · Score: 1

    FileZilla is a good FTP client for Windows.

    http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/

  234. VirtualDub by schmidt · · Score: 1

    VirtualDub - a video capture/processing utility. It lacks the editing power of a general-purpose editor such as Adobe Premiere, but is streamlined for fast linear operations over video. It has batch-processing capabilities for processing large numbers of files and can be extended with third-party video filters. VirtualDub is mainly geared toward processing AVI files, although it can read (not write) MPEG-1 and also handle sets of BMP images.

  235. JEdit, Psi, Netbeans, ActivePerl, ActivePython,.. by Qbertino · · Score: 2

    I'm making just that kind of CD myself!
    But I'm putting on lot's of platform independent stuff on it, so it will actually run anywhere.

    JEdit
    Best Editor I know. Rulez in everything from .ini Files to serious project work. It's my main tool in Windows and Linux! And it can look really cool if you use the skinlf aqua skin :-). You just need a fast box to benefit from it, cuz' it's in Java (www.jedit.org)

    PSI
    QT Jabber client. Nice. But there ought to be more out there for Windows. You might want to add a Jabber client, or?

    Netbeans
    NB rulez all IDEs. Forget JBuilder and it's lock-in APIs. This is the ticket if you're/they're into Programming. It's in Java for Java, C, C++, etc. (www.netbeans.org)

    ActivePerl, ActivePython, etc.
    There are a lot of *very* cool OSS PL setups for various languages on Windows. WinPython is one that comes to mind, wxPython another. Check out www.activestate.com for all your programming and newbie programming needs under Windows.

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  236. easybriidge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recently discovered that Steven Han's Easy Bridge - quite goodlooking and not so bad playing bridge program is now opensourced.

  237. A/V tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    VirtualDub
    XviD
    CDEx
    OGG Vorbis
    DVD2AVI
    HuffYUV
    SubRip
    bbMPEG
    DVDx

  238. Audacity by brunes69 · · Score: 2

    Audacity is a GPL audio recoder / waveform editor for Windows/*Nix, which I found to be very easy to use, and in some respects superior to windows solutions, when I was doing some audio editing in Linux this summer. Check it out.

  239. Please find room for Squeak Smalltalk by chris_sawtell · · Score: 2

    The e-toys are great fun for school age children. Squeak for the cognoscenti, and Squeakland for Mum, Dad, and the Kids. Heaps of fun. Good books available from Amazon too.

  240. GIMP by Pingo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Gimp might be of some interes. //Pingo

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  241. Don't forget R Project, please!!! by a_mastronardi · · Score: 1
    This statistical software is wonderfull!

    Quote from: http://www.r-project.org/
    R is `GNU S' - A language and environment for statistical computing and graphics. R is similar to the award-winning S system, which was developed at Bell Laboratories by John Chambers et al. It provides a wide variety of statistical and graphical techniques (linear and nonlinear modelling, statistical tests, time series analysis, classification, clustering, ...).

    R is designed as a true computer language with control-flow constructions for iteration and alternation, and it allows users to add additional functionality by defining new functions. For computationally intensive tasks, C, C++ and Fortran code can be linked and called at run time.
  242. Many unmentioned KILLER open source apps. by crhylove · · Score: 1

    I've been a windows open source addict for some time now.

    Here is what i use almost daily:

    http://www.dscaler.org/ (on sourceforge)
    for watching tv with a capture card, is the best AVAILABLE program PERIOD, and it's open source!!!

    Tenebrae Quake. (on sourceforge)
    the most advanced 3d engine available PERIOD and open source. :D it's on sourceforge, too, just like dscaler.

    ZSNES. (sourceforge again)
    and yeah, the romz aren't free, but it works perfectly. and i love mario brothers on my desktop.

    PJ64. (www.emulation64.com)
    again, the rom thing, but this plays 90% of my n64 romz flawless.

    FCEultra (sourceforge)
    best nes emulator.

    Mozilla. nuff said.

    and the others mentioned previously:
    gnucleus
    gimp
    abiword (who needs openoffice bloatware?)
    virtualdub
    cdex
    ogg (look out for theora soon!! ;D)

    ok, that's my top 10. i use all of these almost daily.

    as for IM, the only other app i use on THIS box, it just ain't there for me. trillian 1.0 pro is the best i've seen/used, and it's now at a price :(, much less open source!

    crhylove

    PS if you're a windows user and you haven't used any of these, go do so immediately!!!

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    1. Re:Many unmentioned KILLER open source apps. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the DScaler tip. Very nice.

  243. Everything written in Java by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's tons of Java OSS on sourceforge. It all runs on Windows as well.

  244. GNU Privacy Project by gurubert · · Score: 1

    The GNU Privacy Project provides gpg and gpa for Windows. It integrates with Mozilla using the Enigmail plugin.

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  245. Windows Open-Source Games by kheprifu · · Score: 1

    As far as games with working Windows ports, there are quite a few. One great example is an open source project called "Vega Strike" (http://vegastrike.sf.net), which is like a Wing Commander clone. It's currently in development, but the latest version is quite playable.
    There is also FreeCiv (http://www.freeciv.org), a free Civilization clone, which have been very stable for a while. It's mostly compatible with both the Civ 1 and Civ 2 rule sets.
    ZAngband (http://www.zangband.org), a free open-source AngBand (which is similar to nethack or rogue) variant is also quite mature, with many features beyond most similar games.

    Last, but not *quite* least, is "Freespace 2", 1999's Space Combat Sim of the Year (sequel to the 1998 Space Combat Sim of the Year, Descent: Freespace), while it probably doesn't meet the regular criteria for "open source", it's source was released to the public some time ago (http://www.freespace-2.com/ddn/sources/freespace2 /), and ongoing development by third parties (http://icculus.org/freespace2/)(http://www.3dap.c om/hlp/hosted/fsscp/) has produced some rather nice results. While the game itself is not free, the fact that it's source has been opened and it's such a spectacular example of a game, it might be something to possibly consider.

    There are numerous others that I haven't mentioned because I haven't used personally, but there are many linux-based Open-Source games that have native Win32 ports available that would be simple enough to use.

  246. Semik's Desktop by yaba · · Score: 1

    A very useful and tiny multiple desktop manager. Required to make Windows a little bit usable.

  247. GNUPG & WinPT by mystik · · Score: 1

    No's seemed to mention this one yet, but it's just as important

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  248. The Ultimate Server by shuane · · Score: 1

    The Ultimate Server currently contains Apache 2.0.40, PHP 4.2.2, MySQL 3.23.52, and PERL 5.6.1.633.

    All of this for a very small download and an extremely easy install. I recommend you get the latest PHP from php.net as I found the original (PhpUniform) would GPF upon certain API calls.

    Upsides:

    • They get a free web environment that you can add all sorts of things to (e.g. your favourite Content Management System).
    • They can show off the fact that they run a webserver on their Win95 box ;).
    Downsides:
    • Default startup is via a batch file (called from a Pif). The application stays minimized in the taskbar.
    • Php might freeze/crash the machine sometimes (e.g. I used NukeOwl and attempted to view a zip file without the Winzip command line utility on the machine - WinMe froze, WinNT merely returned a blank result).
    • The default install requires you to set aside the drive letter W: - this was frustrating to me because I used W: for a CD writer. I haven't hacked it so, but it's probably just a matter of changing the Start/Stop batch and pif files to use another drive letter.
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  249. Others of mention... by Julz · · Score: 1

    Don't forget OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org), Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net), The Gimp (http://www.gimp.org), Virtual Dub (http://www.virtualdub.org) and possibly Blender3d (http://www.blender3d.com) when it gets released. Although Blender may be a bit above their heads to start with but the others are all easy enough to use.

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  250. keynote by fattybob · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am currently very keen on keynote
    http://www.lodz.pdi.net/~eristic/free/ind ex.html
    having previously used similar outliners like treepad and skwyrulpro, I now find that keynote has many great features, plus hard blowfish encryption. Just great for keeping on the fly notes and clippings, and of course those very personal diaries, or training records...

    I also keep my VBA sorce code in it too - excel sheets being too big for portability.

  251. DScaler ofcourse! by Mar_Garina · · Score: 1

    Best program for watching/recording TV.
    It has many features which I don't even use, so maybe there are more (maybe streaming, I'm not sure..).
    It beats my tv-card manufacturer's program...

  252. ZINF... by zoward · · Score: 2

    ...as in "Zinf is NOT Freeamp". A great music player that supports both MP3's and OGG's. I use it on my Win98 box to play OGG's from my Linux box across the network.

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  253. Oh yeh forgot... by Julz · · Score: 1

    WinJab (http://winjab.sourceforge.net) and MAME (http://www.mame.net) although only a few of the ROMs for MAME are free.

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  254. WarFTPd by strain2k · · Score: 1

    The best ftp server for win32, bar none! and fully open source. coincidence ... ??

  255. TclockEX, Whisper, Transparent, PFE by doodleboy · · Score: 1

    Great free programs I always install on windows boxes:

    TclockEX A genuinely useful enhancement to the taskbar clock. It can show the date and has a resource monitor option, so you can tell at a glance if it's getting to be time for a pre-emptive strike (reboot). Very useful for all versions of windows.

    Whisper Whisper is a password manager for windows. It's convenient to have all your passwords stored in one place, and the program itself is intuitive to use.

    Transparent Makes icon text backgrounds transparent on the desktop. It's a small thing, but it really improves the look of windows. I've used it on 98 and 2000 and it works well.

    Programmer's File Editor For people who need more power than notepad but are unwilling to learn vim, there's PFE, a very nice text editor. It's not vim, but it sure beats the hell out of notepad.

  256. and... by fattybob · · Score: 1

    oh yeah, I forgot to menation all the other stuff I use daily without even thinking
    zinf
    CDex
    2xExplorer - a must have if you ever download anything from Uncle Bill that messes up your windoze
    Gnucleus
    Trillian
    Opera
    Ad-aware
    Ruby scripting / object language
    Scite
    Gimp
    Wordweb - connects nicely to keynote and MS Word
    bfacs - blowifsh/twofish encryption
    BeOS - or soemthing close coming soon - i have (but seldom use sdaly due to work environment) GoBE Productive - not free, but nice!

  257. for Instant Messaging by earplug · · Score: 1

    It seems that specifically open source items were requested but since everyone is posting non-open source but free programs, I guess I will too.

    Trillian has been great for me. They just introduced a pay version but a free version is still available. It is great.

    Also Pop-Up Stopper FREE Edition is quite awesome for those who want to be communist and not support the Mozilla engine.

  258. When you've finalized the line-up by captainclever · · Score: 1

    of the CD, post a list to /. so we can also reap the benefits. i know a few people who would love a cd full of free os windows software.
    cheers

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  259. The BEST screensavers == GPL by Kris+Warkentin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some WICKED Windows OpenGL screensavers (best fireworks sim I've ever seen among others.) All source code under GPL.

    http://www.reallyslick.com/

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  260. Jbidwatcher by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    Since it is for families and non-geek types you will probably find ebay to be one of the most visited destinations. I myself have used bidwatcher on ebay, and I found jbidwatcher to be handy when I'm not on a Linux box. Some times even when I am since it has a few features the Linux native version doesn't have. Some people say sniping is wrong, I'm part of the party that says use your truemax bid to begin with. I've made my to begin with to be the last few seconds of the auction since most people don't know how to make a truemax. The ebay moms of the world will thank you, assuming they know how to make it work in a JVM.

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  261. OpenOffice. by supabeast! · · Score: 3, Informative

    OpenOffice 1.0 on Windows is excellent. It is not perfect, but it does not crash nearly as much as Office XP does, and StarCalc can be like crack to spreadsheet users.

  262. not in xp by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

    and what's in your Documents and Settings directory is obfuscated

    [as many settings were in 9x iirc - see Outlook Express as an example - you can't get to the files through Explorer Navigation, you need to do a file find on "Inbox" and then transfer the path into the address bar]

    If you've ever transferred multiple users from a 9x to NT you'll know the nightmare.

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  263. PuTTY for non-geeks and families by gilgongo · · Score: 1

    > Remember, this is for non-geeks and families

    I look forward to introducing the basics of SSH to my Mum in that case...

    Sigh... geeks will be geeks I suppose.

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    "And the meaning of words; when they cease to function; when will it start worrying you?"
  264. Don't forget B.S.O.D. by croftj · · Score: 1

    Don't forget to put on a good B.S.O.D. program. It will make them feel at home while they are adjusting with the new applications.

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    1. Re:Don't forget B.S.O.D. by sharph · · Score: 1

      xscreensaver and the bsod screensaver comes standred on most linux distros. :)

    2. Re:Don't forget B.S.O.D. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/bluescreens aver.shtml

  265. A few sugestions by X!0mbarg · · Score: 2, Informative

    First and foremost, have a directory for all those required DLLs ;) That way, they don't have to go hunting for them.

    Next, there are a few neet-o utilities out there, in various forms. One that I use a fair bit, is a "Universal Converter". Weight, Mass, Distance. It converts Metric, to Imperial, or simply to another unit of the same. Ounces in a Bushel, for example. Then there's a handy utility I use all the time called "Say The Time". Simple little thing that can be set to announce Verbally, what time it is, so you will be less likely to loose track of the time. Alarms can also be set as well as reminders.

    Just a few simple things to add. Feel free to e-mail me should you wish the actual files. Say The Time is out there on the web, but I haven't found the converter in Ages. I think it used to be a simple VBasic excercise, or something.

    Good luck!

  266. My Favourites by molli123 · · Score: 1

    - XNView- pictureviewer, similar to Irfan, but I like it better (www.xnview.com)
    - Ultimatezip Fine *free* Zipprogram
    - Fixklez (just in case)
    Perhaps cathy (http://rvas.webzdarma.cz), a tool for acchiving directorystructures (if you want to show someone all the MP3s you have or so)
    They are all free, but only avaiable as binaries.
    Micha !

  267. GAIM and Wkrellm by gregRowe · · Score: 1

    GAIM and the port of Gkrellm, WKrellm.

    Greg

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  268. What's wrong with this picture? by p3d0 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Apache, PHP and MySQL...Python...
    And I quote:
    I'm cooking up a CD-ROM image of excellent Win32 Open Source software to give to friends and family who are intrigued by the whole OSS movement but don't know where to start.
    ...
    Remember, this is for non-geeks and families, so Cygwin is out (even though I love it) and games are in.
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    I mod down every jackass who puts his moderation policy in his sig. Oh, wait a sec....
    1. Re:What's wrong with this picture? by Packets · · Score: 1
      (Merciless quoting of article contents with sarcastic emphasis snipped)

      I stand behind my recommendations.

      Too many geeklettes get written off because the only programming language they have access to is mircscript.

      Access to a nice, well designed scripting language in a easy and friendly environment (Python and PHP count, and [x]chat has python and perl scripting support) is an essential part of that.

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      A little overkill never hurt anybody.
    2. Re:What's wrong with this picture? by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Ok, good point. Sorry for the sarcasm. Slashdot has become a very prickly place in the last few months, and I think it's rubbing off on me.

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  269. Emulators!!!! M.A.M.E, PinMAME, Nostalgia by Proudrooster · · Score: 1

    Don't forget the emulators...

    MAME (Multi Arcade Machine Emulator)
    Pin MAME (Pinball)
    Nostalgia (Intellivision Emulator)
    I don't have time to make it pretty, but check these sites as well for emulator ideas:
    http://www.effinspam.com/
    http://www.tombstones.org.uk/burners.php?us

    1. Re:Emulators!!!! M.A.M.E, PinMAME, Nostalgia by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 1

      Don't forget ScummVM (Lucasarts adventure game engine).
      I think it's the only way to get Day of the Tentacle, and the Monkey Island games to work with modern versions of windows.

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  270. PySol by BigJimSlade · · Score: 2

    Knowing how much Windows users like their Solitaire, I recommend PySol. Written in Python and Tk, it has over 200 unique soliatire games. My mother-in-law is addicted to Spider solitaire and absolutely loves PySol.

    Unfortunately, the site doesn't have an up-to-date py2exe package of it (for non-Windows Python programmers, py2exe allows you to make a Windows EXE of a Python program, including the interpreter). You'll have to Google it to find it.

  271. One word. by lycias · · Score: 1

    Nethack.

  272. Ack! Forgot!! by X!0mbarg · · Score: 1

    I'm so *Daft* for forgetting these...

    Make sure you have an assortment of Simple Things for allowing them to change the appearance and behaviour of the GUI, too! Try and include some sort of Theme Management tools as well.

    Different Cursors, Icons and .WAV files, for example. Oh, and Screensavers, and Wallpaper and a few Fonts...

    And maybe a few (dozen)links to add to their Favorites (or Bookmarks) lists that allow them to go to various sites with such content!

    mumblestoopidmorninglackofcaffenemumble...

  273. WinPenguins by spike2131 · · Score: 1

    WinPenguins is a great little ap that will have tiny little Tux characters crawling all over a Windows desktop. Not only is it great Linux brand placement, but its a huge hit with the kids.

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  274. The BEST thing for windows... by pr0t3uS · · Score: 1

    ...in my eyes is stil LiteStep.

  275. Liquid War. Gameplay: 10, Graphics: 3, Overall: 11 by vaxer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Liquid War is addictive, fast-paced, and easy to learn. Perhaps best of all, there's no installation routine. Unzip it and run it, and watch your cat disappear under a pile of laundry as everything outside the game ceases to be interesting.

  276. Freeciv by Vulturejoe · · Score: 1

    Freeciv is cool

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  277. Some fun stuff by skryche · · Score: 1
    How could anybody not mention The Best Game Ever? And, no, it's not (strictly) character-based any more.

    Why not smack on a few IF interpreters for playing some of the excellent (and free) text adventures out there? I particuarly recommend (Win)Frotz.

    Also, MAME and ZSNES are excellent arcade and SNES emulators.

    For eye candy, I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Xaos. Mmm. Fractal zooming. So pretty. Plus, a good introduction to the mathematics of fractals.

  278. IM client by ngreenfeld · · Score: 1

    For the general public, include Jabber or similar. The point is that people (especially teens) love instant messaging (particularly AIM), and an IM client that is compatible with AIM would be understandable to a large audience.

  279. Try ray tracing use POV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not a coward, just lazy but Persistence Of Vision makes incredible ray traced pictures on both Linux and Windows.

  280. Open Games by Zech+Harvey · · Score: 1

    I really dig this, man. It's a good cause and it helps your family realise that they have choices, lots of them. Noticing that alot of people are recommending office productivity suites (which is cool, but you can only recommend Open Office/AbiWord/Gimp so many times =P) or server/high-end programs (very commendable, but...very time-consuming if anything like what I had to do to teach my parents), I wanted to include a list of games I figured might brighten their day.

    First off, glTron. GPLed and very very addicting. Great to show off the fact that 3D Gaming and Linux are not mutually exclusive. (I would mention TuxRacer here, but it has been said before)

    Secondly I want to go old-school with Nethack. I mean, it's Nethack. If someone in your family thinks they are cool because they can survive a Zerg-rush, let them play this and see how tough they are. ;)

    Thirdly I would mention anything old by Id. They have a ton of free mods and maps for Quake or Quake II and with the new Tenebrae mod it's not your Mom's old Quake. Plus if you compile it for their PC on their PC, it might get them interested in Programming.

    Which brings me to my last addition, Dev-C++. For the Casual Programmer (i.e. takes a few courses, kinda C-curious) This is the perfect IDE. Based on GCC it has a good-looking front-end, great support, and takes up ALOT less space than Visual Studio. I know at least one teacher that recommends the students run this, and rightly so. It really puts the brain-strain on the appropriate part of programming, the actual program.

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  281. Yeah that's it - so much better than Windows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once the average windows user sees how much better abi word is than word...

    Think about it, dipshit. They'll see NO reason to switch.

    Why don't you show them what they can use instead of Quicken. That Kmoney or whatever from the Kompany. I tried it. It's great if you like segfaults. In other words it Krashes.

    And how about Apache 2.0, nobody wants it because ito won't run php. Good job coordinating the php and apache camps. There is a definite plus to a proprietary company. Apache not being able to run php, the most popular module, is akin to IIS not running asp.

  282. gnucash by guybarr · · Score: 2

    The only application I use for a non-hobby purpose outside of work. I'm not sure it's so easy to run it on windows, though.

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  283. How to make PuTTY less annoying by dSV3Hl · · Score: 1

    This is based on what is in the PuTTY FAQ.

    Throw this in a batchfile, for instance puttystore.bat. Edit to store the registry patch where you want.

    %HOMEDRIVE%
    cd %HOMEPATH%

    regedit /e etc\putty.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SimonTatham\PuTTY

    Run the batch file every time you make a change to your settings, put put something in your login script to reload the registry settings.

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  284. ooh... aah... pretty colors by JagRoth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't forget screen savers. For some people, that's all they have to let them know their 3D video card actually works.
    My favorites, especially skyrocket (OpenGL, GPL): Really Slick.

    I haven't seen anyone port these to linux yet, but that would be great to see (knowwhatImean knowwhatImean, nudge nudge, wink wink).

    1. Re:ooh... aah... pretty colors by Junta · · Score: 2

      http://manu.agat.net/ReallySlickLinux/

      Not very far, but a start.

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  285. Linux partitions are not the way to start by kemikalzen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I figure once they're used to Mozilla and AbiWord under WinXP, a Linux partition would be less daunting.

    I am running courses in security using the excellent Knoppix Live Linux-on-CD, which requires no installation, you just boot on the CD into a smooth KDE 3 interface, OpenOffice, XMMS, Xine media player, Mozilla, Konqueror, Galeon and another approximately 2 GB worth of OS software. At first, Windows users are impressed by the feat itself, then they discover they can reach data on the Windows partition. Then they start questioning what Windows gives them that Linux cannot give them on the desktop. IT WORKS!

  286. Knoppix itself! by maitas · · Score: 1


    If you can add a second CD, just add Knoppix. Let them try Linux without loosing any info!

    http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

    1. Re:Knoppix itself! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      loose software really sucks, just as most loose things do

      but i tell you the real pain in the ass is LOSING software.

  287. Tortoise cvs- Version control for the masses by slonlow · · Score: 1

    http://www.tortoisecvs.org

    A small but powerful util. Conforms to the principle of doing one thing and doing it well. It's got a whole office of normal Windows using people (read: non-geeks) commited to CVS version control. Integrates into the Explorer Shell. Right-click and commit, update, checkout. Thanks tortoise dev team.

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  288. 7zip by Karamchand · · Score: 1

    http://www.7-zip.org/ great packager, GNU GPLed. Supports many formats (apart from its own..) Perhaps not for the average computer user but still very practical are the win32 ports of all those nifty unix tools (egrep, sed, patch, wc...; just search for unix tools windows on google)

  289. What, for what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a good idea.

    Most folks I know need a good Open solution for:
    Outlook
    Word
    Excel
    Power Point
    Access
    Quicken or MS Money

    So what would you recommend has substitutes for these applications?

  290. WinJab by orrinrule · · Score: 1

    The best Jabber client for Windows... WinJab

  291. Freshmeat by broody · · Score: 3, Informative

    Freshmeat lists the Win32 projects by popularity and by rating. You can probably find more download sites that let you filter by license.

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  292. Ghostview and RedMon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about something to take the place of Acrobat? I use Ghostscript and it's GUI frontend GhostView, both of which can be found here. Not only are they capable of reading PDF files, but they do Postscript as well (actually, that's their primary purpose). Better still, they can help you convert one format to the other. For a companion, I also recomend RedMon, which is a port redirecter that allow you to print to Postscript or PDF files.

  293. Shareware by Andrewkov · · Score: 2

    After using Linux for the past few years, the biggest problem I have with Windows free software is that none of it is free. Every time I download something from Download.com or other sites, it's always a trial version, or a demo version. Almost nobody seems to be releasing free software, everyone wants to make a buck. That said, Cygwin is my favorite Windows OSS project!

  294. FreeCraft - 100% GPL RTS game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FreeCraft is a free RTS engine and RTS game.

    http://FreeCraft.Org

  295. Cygwin! by TummyX · · Score: 2

    How can we forget cygwin?

    1. Re:Cygwin! by fetta · · Score: 1

      Despite the fact that the original poster specifically dismissed Cygwin, I think he should reconsider. The new graphical installer makes the installation relatively painless for "Joe Windows User," and some of the included tools are indispensible.

      Not ever user will try them out, but once you've gotten used to being able to grep files on your Win32 box, it's hard to do without! Plus, because you're using standard GNU versions of tools such as SSH, online examples will be easier to follow.

      If disk space allows, go ahead and include Cygwin.

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  296. What about the OpenCD project? by codefungus · · Score: 1

    A new project called TheOpenCD had this very thing in mind. Create a CD with tons of great open source software for win32. However, they seemed to have gotten stuck at the installer phase and I've not heard anything from them in about 2 months.
    Anyway, you can still get the list of software they proposed to put on the CD at:

    http://theopencd.org/thelist/

    Good luck!

    hise

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  297. litestep by Khopesh · · Score: 3, Informative

    nobody has mentioned LiteStep!
    LiteStep is a replacement desktop environment released under the GPL.

    I have nine desktops, can drag windows between them, I have cpu and ram meters, quick-launch buttons and shortcuts, and can even drag windows from other destkops anywhere (don't think you can do that in most desktop envs).

    with litestep and mozilla, unless I have a windows [file] explorer open, there's no MS except the system (kernel, services) running - which means with the multiple-instances-of-explorer option, I need not worry about [i]explore[r].exe crashing.

    and (obviously) there is theming

    other GPL windows projects of interest:
    FreeCiv Civilization (one and/or two+) clone
    Gaim AIM/yahooim/msnim/icq/jabber/... client
    and the already mentioned cygwin, vim, gimp, mozilla.

    if you hunt for it, there's a cygwin version of gvim that allows unix paths, etc. but uses X.

    Xfree86 for cygwin is now prime-time (in installer) and works really well with windowmaker and openbox, but lacks integration with ms windows as the wm (the way eXceed, winaXe, XwinPro, and Xthin do). please, please contribute to that somebody!

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  298. Just a few I love by cbodine · · Score: 0

    Audacity: A good, and I mean good audio editor, I use this at work.
    Miranda ICQ: Small, fast ICQ client with lots of features and no ads
    OpenOffice: It was said before and it should be said again
    Mozilla: It is good as far as I am concerned
    Freeshade: Will roll the window up into a neat little title bar just by double clicking the title bar.
    CDEx: Good for ripping MP3
    Winamp: Well you will want a way to play those MP3

    A free version of some unzip program
    Litestep/or some other shell replacement

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  299. 7-zip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For zip files i have been using a great GPL program called 7-zip. It integrates into the Explorer Shell and also handles tar.gz as well. It's a pretty cool little program.

  300. Quadra by cecil36 · · Score: 2

    I found this very addictive Tetris game last year on SourceForge, and I've been playing it ever since. I even made my own CD with the Win32 installer and a huge collection of Tetris music to run in the background while playing.

  301. Re: page layout on Windows by brokeninside · · Score: 1
    TeX and LaTeX.

  302. 7-Zip, VegaStrike by jensend · · Score: 2

    Anything they may be using shareware for is a good candidate. For example, 7-Zip (http://www.7-zip.org/) for compressed file operations. I have yet to find a good opensource replacement for download accelerators, which are often shareware.

    Don't forget to include some opensource games such as BZFlag and VegaStrike, both on SourceForge.

    BTW, Freeciv is great, but its interface on Win32 frankly stinks. It's not likely to win converts.

  303. What about graphical Nethack by necrognome · · Score: 1

    Let Nethack + graphical interface for Windows suck away all their time! Here is the Windows download page

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  304. Open source windows NT. by jordanpwalsh · · Score: 1

    There is an open source build of the NT Kernel,it doesnt work very well now but it has a good future. it is called ReactOS You Can get it here

  305. Vim? No, no, no, NO! by robinjo · · Score: 2

    Seriously, wake up. I don't want to offend you but you really have to wake up. Reasons for not including vi:

    1) Its user interface is horribly old and horribly cryptic. The idea of a command mode and a separate input mode is difficult to understand and to learn. Believe me. It took over 10 years before I went through the trouble of learning the basics of vi and even now I only use it for basic text file editing. And I'm not a newbie. 2) They will ask you why a simple text editor has to be so difficult. If you try to convince them that it isn't, they may wonder how "easy" that Linux thing is after this "easy" editor. IMHO it's all right to like vi. Expecially if you're used to it. However, vi, sendmail configurations and everything not-usual cryptic stuff has to be hidden deep where it can't intimidate people. Teaching vi as first editor is like having a Windows beginners course where everything is configured through regedit.

    1. Re:Vim? No, no, no, NO! by stardyne · · Score: 1

      ... The idea of a command mode and a separate input mode is difficult to understand and to learn.

      It is not so difficult to understand. The first word processors (WordStar, and any word processor derived from it), had separate command and input modes. These word processors were extremely powerful for the time.

    2. Re:Vim? No, no, no, NO! by robinjo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It may not be for you but do you consider your computer skills average? If you spend some time teaching computer skills to Normal People, you'll notice how even the concept of a file or directory structure is difficult.

      People are lazy. They don't bother learning things unless they have to. Most people will gladly learn and use AbiWord instead of WordStar. Not because AbiWord has more features. It's just easier.

      Vim will take over the world when most people stop using elevators and opt for climbing the stairs.

    3. Re:Vim? No, no, no, NO! by Boing · · Score: 1

      Vim will take over the world when most people stop using elevators and opt for climbing the stairs.

      As a civilization, we had stairs long before we had elevators. Elevators were considered an advancement, not a regression. Likewise, having user interfaces that make sense to beginners is something to be commended. Sure, vim is unquestionably more powerful than Kate, gEdit, etc... but those are the ones I use for most text editing tasks when I'm in Linux, because I don't have my task at hand competing for brain real estate with obscure vi commands.

  306. More technical, but very useful.. by Christopher_G_Lewis · · Score: 1

    Wget - wget.sunsite.dk I use it almost every day.

    Analog - www.analog.cx Web server log parser. An absolutely essential tool for a webmaster.

  307. Excellent Post by lob5ter · · Score: 1

    I know this isn't news per se but what a great post. I'm a real advocate of OSS but have always found it quite difficult to find _the_ oss tool that does what it says on the tin without downloading 10 others that just don't - this post has highlighted tons of high quality, useful OSS software, it's also kept my broadband connection busy for the last hour :o)

  308. Gkrellm for Windows by ElementCDN · · Score: 1

    A very good Windows port of Gkrellm.

  309. TraySaver by Khopesh · · Score: 2

    oh, one more that I forgot to mention b/c litestep eliminates my need for it (and winxp integrated the idea): TraySaver (i can't find the license but the code is on sourceforge).
    stash systemtray icons in a second tray available with a click, add an option to the alt+space pulldown that says 'minimize to tray' ... VERY handy esp. at low resolution.

    the author's StartupCPL (closed source, puts in a control panel section to manage what starts up with windows) and WindowSizer (resize ANY window) are put on every windows machine I touch.

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  310. Standard interfaces.... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    There is not such thing as a standard interface. There is such a thing like the interface *you* are used to work with.

    Some programs become more popular and then some ideas are copied. That does not make the original idea an standard. An expert body lying guidelines for development does.

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  311. imagemagick by shreak · · Score: 1

    http://www.imagemagick.org/

    Not sure if it's GNU but the download is free.

    Software for modifying graphic files. Resizing, changing formats, displaying, morphing...

    A GUI interface as well as a rich command line interface (great for scripting resizes on multiple scans!)

    Also APIs for Java, Perl, MS COM...

    I downloaded it 3 days ago and I'm already in love with it!

    =Shreak

  312. What part of ... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    ... "not for geeks" you don't understand? ;-P

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  313. SCREW open source!!! by swordgeek · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Really, this has nothing whatsoever to do with open source, other than that you're claiming that you want it.

    For a disk of crossover apps, you're limiting yourself by only including open source software. How about stuff that's just free? How about demos of software that's actually commercial, closed-source, but available on both platforms?

    Weaning someone off of Windows for Linux is one thing. Weaning someone off of all non-open-source (and by whose definition?) software is entirely something else. Make sure you're clear on what you want to do.

    Having said that, the Unreal Tournament 2003 demo (and soon game) is available in Windows and Linux versions. Why not throw that on?

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  314. WinVI by FigBugDeux · · Score: 1

    How about WinVI? It is agoodie?

  315. It is one of those things. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    I use it with W98 (reluctantly, I run mostly Linux nowadays). No problems so far.

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  316. vitrite by Khopesh · · Score: 2
    alright! a gpl'ed program for transparancies!
    I've been using glass2k (and have switched).
    please add its features ;-)
    specifically the settings:
    • change hotkeys
    • autoload toggle
    • taskbar transp toggle
    • sound option (user should be able to pick a wav, default: none)
    • remember each window's transp #
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  317. Bloodshed Dev-C++ & FileZilla by FooBarWidget · · Score: 2

    Bloodshed Dev-C++! It's the best free IDE for Windows that I know. Includes GCC 2.95.3.

    FileZilla is an excellent FTP client.

  318. Flight Gear by TekZen · · Score: 1

    I can't imagine why Flight Gear (www.flightgear.org) hasn't been mentioned. Who doesn't like a flight simulator?

  319. A great game : Phobia III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Win32 and Linux versions are available for free at :
    http://www.lynxlabs.com/phobiaIII/

    1. Re:A great game : Phobia III by supremo · · Score: 1

      This is not Open Source, is it?
      I can't find the source :(

  320. Grandma!: by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    Guess what, I got you this OSS based source code editing component.

    Nooo! Nooo, pleassse. Don't thank me.

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  321. Nethack - Falcons Eye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gotta have Nethack. And the Falcons Eye graphical version is excellent.

    Get your fix here : http://falconseye.sourceforge.net/

  322. Dont exclude Cygwin by j_kenpo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dont exclude cygwin entirely, just include the cygwin1.dll (and possible bash) and throw all the Open Source available for cygwin in. If need be, compile these and distribute that way... Its how I run X and ssh at the office on my NT machine to tunnel home. Even if you had to use a full cygwin install, you could just do a "bash --login -c " and you can run whatever program from batch files in windows.... although there are some really good OSS that you can run that are Windows based, Mozilla, Openoffice.. and Im not to sure but I believe GTK is open to windows (or is that Qt... damned Linux standards, why dont you just combine!!) so some GTK based apps should work as well. Anyway, dont just limit yourself, the cygwin apps can be made to work with a little batch file...

  323. This is great! by Scooter · · Score: 1

    LOL - we should have this article every month :)

    "Everyone post links to all the cool stuff they use" - I've downloaded 4 or 5 already :)

  324. Free FDisk by MCZapf · · Score: 1

    You might be kidding about including fdisk, but there is a free (GPL) version of fdisk out there: Free FDISK. It acts like regular MS fdisk, but has more features, such as support for non-DOS partition types. I think it was this feature that brought me to Free FDISK; regular fdisk just wasn't getting the job done.

  325. Xemacs by anarcat · · Score: 1

    Duh. The Xemacs port to Win32 is pretty good, heck, it's much better than the native Mac port.

    Fullfills all my editing needs.

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  326. Great Technical Software : R Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The R Project
    A statistical programming language. If some of your friends get burned in Excel by having data over 64K or whatever their limit is, try this. Grandma my not "get it", but Josh College will. Try it.

  327. VirtuaWin !! by mobiGeek · · Score: 2
    May not be for Grandma, but certainly it can work for cousin Billy Bob John Boy.

    VirtuaWin, a GPL'ed virtual desktop for Win32.

    I use it extensively when GIMP'ing too (take that you nay-sayers!) :-)

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  328. why is cygwin out, again? by scrytch · · Score: 2

    I can see that you might not care about exposing people to the CLI toolchain, but ... X runs under cygwin, and there's a growing library of X app ports on cygwin -- including KDE.

    Even in CLI land, there's some CLI tools that power users will love, like wget. If you have room on the CD, I suggest a "power users" section, that includes cygwin. Here's a suggestion:

    cat >> /winOSS/powertools/suck
    #!/bin/sh
    wget --continue --timestamping --recursive --level=inf --convert-links --dont-remove-listing --no-parent $*
    ^D

    (I call it 'suck', perhaps you want a more genteel name). These are just standard options to wget that I use to suck down a site from the command line. It's trivial enough to integrate this with some sort of clipboard monitor, and you have a web site downloader that unlike most of their brethren for windows, actually *works*.

    The clincher for including cygwin is: you want to distribute an open source CD. How about a compiler to make that source actually useful? gcc perhaps? Welcome to cygwin (or mingw if you use -mno-cygwin)

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  329. XNap by ReelOddeeo · · Score: 2

    XNap. (Look it up on freshmeat.net)

    It is the best OpenNap client I've seen. Open source. Written in Java. I've used it on Linux, MacOS X, and... Win XP.

    Try it, you'll like it -- especially if you've been using a Gnutella client. Just download the ".jar" file, and double click it. You'll never go back to gnutella.

    (Requires Java to be installed. Use either Microsoft's or Sun's -- both are free as in beer. If you're not running XP, then you almost certianly already have Java installed. If not just download Sun's JRE 1.4 and run setup.exe.)

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  330. Criticalcare! by Limburgher · · Score: 2

    Best carmageddon/gta3 ripoff you'll find for windoze. . .

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  331. Here are a few ... by Lucas+Membrane · · Score: 1
    TkPaint or TuxPaint

    jMusic

    For games, the demos that come with the Clean programming language held my kid's interest longer than any other demo games that come with other languages.

  332. Treeline by wytcld · · Score: 2

    Treeline is a very usable outliner/PIM/simple database that runs on both Windows and Linux. It's author, Doug Bell also has several other programs including a very nice calculator, a unit conversion utility, and a route planner for pilots.

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  333. blah blah blah by Rakka+Rage · · Score: 1

    less daunting AND less usefull

  334. quakeforge and armagetron by tabby · · Score: 1

    Well if the GPL was good enough for ID...

    And armagetron has gltron beat hands down.

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  335. JS Pager Virtual Desktop by MindTree · · Score: 1

    I'm totally shocked that no one has mentioned this yet! Check JS Pager Virtual Desktop

    This falls under the category of win32 only software, but it will pass the physical tests.

    This is a great transition tool from windows to linux, as most window managers under X have a concept of virtual desktops.

    This is one of those things I really missed on a windows machine (yes I have ONE of the four machines on my desktop at work. Necessary for testing, Lotus Notes, network printing (NO FLAME), and a few other things). I am one of those people that has 30+ applications running (between putty sessions, wait, there's another good app...) and I don't like to be minimizing and maximizing every five seconds. I found JS Pager while searching for a virtual desktop on windows and fell in love with it. I've got everyone else here at work hooked and it's helped people to get use to gnome and KDE desktop environments.

  336. Re:Lol, putty. WINSCP ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    even if it's not oss, if u put putty u have to put
    inside winscp .

    and about people and their mom .. wel
    my mother usually upload files with winscp from her
    home pc to mine (we do not live together) and then
    it upload the files to a ssl - web server (with frame) using w3m-ssl on my home-linux box through putty .
    i explained her how to use it in just two hours.

  337. _NET spec? by yerricde · · Score: 2

    [Windoids are] possible with any window manager that supports either MWM hints, or properly supports the _NET spec.

    I thought only Microsoft Windows supported the .NET spec. What am I thinking of?

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    1. Re:_NET spec? by fault0 · · Score: 2

      _NET is different from .NET, and predates it. It was created mostly to unify the KDE and GNOME hints, and to replace MWM hints. Because of this, you can for example use sawfish with KDE and kwin with GNOME, or blackbox with either.

  338. Why vim is a bad idea by JoeBuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Your last line is completely wrong: a user does not have to get familiar with vim to avoid being completely lost when they have to edit a text file on Linux. The fact that you believe otherwise means that I ask you to stay away from potential Linux converts.

    No person coming from the Windows or Mac world has ever seen a moded editor in the style of vi. Every other editor in the world, from Notepad to Emacs, lets the user just start typing and the text gets entered correctly. Like everyone who's been in the Unix world a long time, I can use vi if I must, but I'd rather not. Emacs has many flaws as well; its choice of keybindings is rather antique, but at least they are changeable. Better still to give new users a decent text-editing widget.

    If the user you inflict vim on thinks that she'll have to put up with such things on Linux, you're not going to get a convert.

    vi/vim should be available for those who explicitly want it, but we don't need any new converts to the cult.

    1. Re:Why vim is a bad idea by irix · · Score: 2
      No person coming from the Windows or Mac world has ever seen a moded editor in the style of vi.

      Edlin! :)

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  339. So Who's Compiling and Hosting the List? by g8orade · · Score: 1

    My little DirecTV Apache server wouldn't have a prayer.

    Download.com lets you search on free but not Free.
    Freshmeat.net sort of gets you there for cross OS stuff, but not for pure WinOS plays.

  340. GET 'EM WINAMP 2! by incripshin · · Score: 1

    I know it isn't open sourced, but there is a clone of Winamp 2.x called XMMS on Linux, so if they make the transition, at least some things are familiar.

  341. Good stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "sylpheed-claws" for email has been ported to windows.
    "gaim" for instant messenging is in alpha, but its getting better.
    "xchat" for irc is great.
    "mozilla" of course.

  342. Perl by Herkum01 · · Score: 1

    Some people may not consider it a program, but every job that I have had I have been able to use Perl and it always has been useful. It is open source, documentation is readily available, and I don't have to tie myself to its only real alternative on the windows platform, VB Script.

  343. Have you even USED photoshop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just a question, because there's a reason that everyone in professional editing uses Photoshop, and that's not because Adobe is a BEEG EVAL MONONOPOLY, but because the UI and features are the -best- in the buisness.

    I really really like The GIMP, but Christ, the UI sucks. Don't feed me that crap about virtual desktops either, because MDI inferfaces work just as well as virtual desktops for certain kinds of programs, if not better.

  344. CD image by t_hunger · · Score: 1

    Please put the CD image somewhere when you have created it and post a link here. I'm very much interessted in taking a glance at whatever you are going to collect and would love to give it a try.

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  345. Depends on who by hey! · · Score: 2

    The problem with the vi UI is that it is modal. There is insert mode and command mode. Modality is somethign required by text only interfaces and which is generally deprecated for GUIs. For this reason, most naive users will find the Windows Notepad superior to vi for this reason. In fact, I'd recommend the Win32 emacs editor over vi for non-programmers doing simple text editing. Really -- try approaching it as a naive user and you'll find you can do simple things like edit, insert, delete text, opening, saving and renaming files using pure GUI commands.

    However, programs like vi and emacs only really show their superiority over programs like Notepad for editing very long text files, or complex structured text files (data files and programs). In fact, I'd say as a philosophical point this means they ARE only superior to Notepad for these purposes.

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  346. Because ... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    .... the original poster asked us to do so perhaps?

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  347. For good economic reasons by hey! · · Score: 2

    If the OSS/free software you use attracts more users, it attracts more developers, and it gets better.

    Just because you don't pay doesn't mean there isn't a quid pro quo. Developers want their work used. By advocating for free software, you are helping the developers, as they are helping you.

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  348. Personal finances... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can anybody recommend a personal finance manager for Win32 that's free/GPL? Gnucash is the obvious answer... but I can NOT find a Win32 port of it...

  349. Phoenix by MoonBuggy · · Score: 1

    As far as text editors go, jEdit is by far the best IMO.

    And as for browsers, although it's only 0.1, Phoenix is the best I've ever used, I only got it yesterday, after having mozilla and never quite feeling right, always using IE except for testing. However, I'm an instant convert, I'm in Phoenix as we speak, it hasn't had any noticible bugs and the tabs were the main reason I even considered Moz, so now I have 12 sites in 1 window, it's just mozilla with any annoyances taken out, i love it.

  350. Freecraft by pfharlock · · Score: 1

    Freecraft is an excellent replacement for warcraft2, especially if you have the warcraft2 cd to grab the graphics off of.

  351. Re: Commercial ($) vs. Commercial (Free) by Raetsel · · Score: 2

    You're right -- heck, look at Red Hat. If that isn't commercial, I don't know what is.

    I got caught up in a specific use of the word when writing my response -- specifically to:

    "...I don't trust some random anonymous guy to pull all the spyware out of a commerical product..."
    With regard to that sentence, I stand by my comment: Gnucleus isn't commercial. It has no paid developers, it doesn't sell a product or push advertising, and (as far as I can tell) it exists 'just for the fun of it.'

    Perhaps it would have made you happier if I'd started that sentence "And it isn't commercial...", though that would have been rather poor grammar, and the Grammar Nazi would have been on my case instead of you.

    Damned if I do, damned if I don't... Ah Slashdot, at least you're consistent.

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  352. A tool for Revolution by SunPin · · Score: 3, Informative
    MAME absolutely rocks for the simple fact that it's easy to leave on for guests/parties.

    People are into video games but not into the complexity of modern games.

    As for being a "gray" app, there are plenty of freely availabe ROMs at Classic Gaming[classicgaming.com].

    MAME belongs on the CD.

    The only drawback--like most OSS programs--is that it requires a scope of seemingly unrelated skills to get started.

    M$ codes for morons. OS Developers code for their peers. Until "coding for morons" becomes the mantra of the movement, the CD will remain simply a demo and not a tool for revolution.

    --Chris Uzal, Editor, Cyberista

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  353. Off topic by dolmen.fr · · Score: 1

    SmartFTP and Trillian are not Free Software.

    None of the four will work on Linux.

  354. OSS for Windoze by spongebobsquarepants · · Score: 1

    On my XP partition, I regularly use: the Gimp (image manipulation) Dev-C++ (C/C++ IDE) CDex (music ripping software) Python (scripting/programming language) R (statistics and graphics software) OpenOffice (office suite) Mozilla (web browser and mail client) Phoenix (web browser based on gecko) Filezilla (FTP client and server)

  355. I have a few more obscure/gaming suggestions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MAME - http://www.mame.net - it's open-source, although under a license of its own devising. Giving it out with ROMs that you don't own a license for is definitely a no-no. There are a few public-domain arcade ROMs for MAME users to download from MAME.Net.

    VDMSound - http://ntvdm.cjb.net - should your friends/family have old 16-bit games that they can't run in Windows XP, it's the shizzat. Never mind Windows XP's "preliminary at best" sound card emulation, VDMSound blows it out of the water, what with completely accurate Adlib emulation, Sound Blaster emulation, Disney Sound Source Emulation, Direct-DAC support, etc. - and Roland MT32 emulation coming some point in the future. (They're also always looking for capable Win32 programmers/hackers, and their support forum is at VOGONS - Very Old Games On Newer Systems support forum - http://vogons.zetafleet.com ). VDMSound is released under GPL, I believe.

    GLIDOS - http://www.glidos.net - the ultimate Glide Wrapper for those old DOS Glide games (it's really coming along, with Screamer 2, Screamer Rally (Bleifuss 2, Bleifuss Rally), Archimedean Dynasty, Battlecrusier 3000AD, Sentinel Returns,
    and (possibly) Descent 1 (3dfx patch) all also beginning to be supported besides those mentioned on the site. The wrapper itself is open-source, but the source as of yet is not freely available from the website. The actual product, Glidos, is more than the wrapper in itself. It includes a nice GUI and configuration system plus other hacks to get DOS Glide games working in WindowsNT/2000/XP for $10.00 USD.

    Hmm, let's see... oh, and most emulators out there (for playing legally or illegally copied games) are open-source as well, but with a variety of different licenses. Ask around (http://www.retrogames.com, http://www.zophar.net)

    - Anonymous

  356. XaoS (fractal zoomer) by gilko · · Score: 1

    XaoS is a really fun program to play around with for even on mathmaticly inclide people.

    XaoS is a fast portable real-time interactive fractal zoomer. It displays the Mandelbrot set (among other escape time fractals) and allows you zoom smoothly into the fractal. It uses lots of optimization techniques to save about 97% of calculations necessary to calculate next frame to make zooming as fast as possible.

  357. Coolplayer is my Win32 player. by GodsMadClown · · Score: 1

    Weighing in at 342kb, Coolplayer is an absolutely killer MP3/OGG/CD player. It supports streams, playlists, skins, and embeds absolutely no cruft in the windows registry. It's just one executable file, and it sounds much better than WinAmp. The only problem that I can see is that because it comes with no install file, or much documentation, people (newbies especially) are often be thrown off by how simple it is to use.

    *Recap*
    - 342kb of low resource, low cruft programming.
    - support for MP3, Ogg, their respective streams, and CDaudio
    - Better sound than WinAmp
    - Dead easy to use
    - GNU General Public License

    Download your copy at http://coolplayer.sourceforge.net/

  358. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  359. Fractals are fun by skintigh2 · · Score: 1

    How about a fractal program. I think fractint is the name of one I used years ago. My fractal program is basically open source - I've given the source away to strangers, but have been to lazy to put it on my site as of yet. It's not as fast as others, but it's easy and fun.

    http://skintigh.tripod.com/ff/ff.html

  360. Streamripper for Winamp by SethJohnson · · Score: 3, Interesting


    I like to use streamripper to record internet radio shows to mp3 files. I'll then record these to mp3 cdrws that I listen to in my cdplayer while I ride my bike to work. BTW- a bike is another good open source product, but it doesn't run on windows as well as it does the street.
    Seth
  361. Apple disagrees with you by Trevin · · Score: 1
    Photoshop's UI is very standard - a single MDI window.

    The single MDI window scheme may be popular among M$-Windows apps, but it is not a general standard. There was an article on Slashdot earlier this month which brought up this very thing: Mac OS X doesn't use MDI.

    IMO, giving each document an independent window makes life much easier, because you can move and size them anywhere on the desktop without the constraints of a parent window, and they can be interleaved with windows from other applications.

  362. Jazz++ by neurophys · · Score: 1

    Nice OSS for making music

    1. Re:Jazz++ by neurophys · · Score: 1

      Oh, I forgot the URL: www.jazzware.com

  363. Jabber/PSI by Earlybird · · Score: 2
    • Personally, I use PSI when using Windows, but there are others out there that may be just as good. I do believe, though, that Psi is cross-platform, which may be a plus.

    Psi is indeed a wonderful little program. I've been using it since May, and it has never crashed on me. In fact, the only Psi bug that I'm aware of is a minor bug in the Qt GUI library.

    Psi's author is security-savvy and has given priority to SSL and PGP support. Unfortunately, this means Psi still does not support file transfer or group chat. The project needs volunteers.

    Psi is based on Qt, so above all, it integrates flawlessly with Windows. This is important. I have used GTK+ apps like Dia, and I tried out the Gaim port recently, and while GTK+ isn't terrible, it's like Swing -- it doesn't look or feel like a native program, doesn't integrate with native conventions (clipboard, fonts, window messages, drag/drop etc.).

    Psi is indeed cross-platform, and runs flawlessly on Linux and Mac OS X and fully integrate with the GUIs of these platforms, including Aqua, although my Mac-using friends say Qt 3 has problems with window flicker.

  364. Stepmania. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like DDR? Can't find your fav version? Want to make your own song/dance moves? Too shy to make a fool out of yourself in a public arcade.

    http://stepmania.com/stepmania/

    Use any mp3 and make your own song. :)

  365. Include Plone Content Management / Portal system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you think of installing server software like Apache and PHP, you might also consider: the Plone windows installer. It includes all the goodies for Zope and works out of the box.

    Plone 1.0 Beta 1
    CMF 1.3
    Zope 2.5.1
    Python 2.1.3
    Win32 Extensions
    PIL 1.1.2
    ReportLab 1.15
    Zope Controller 1.0
    CMF Collector 0.9b
    CMF Wiki 0.1
    External Editor 0.5 (Client and Server app)
    BackTalk (unknown version)
    Zope Book 2.5

  366. Keynote and CDex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    KeyNote and CDex to name two.

  367. Not Quake 2 by Earlybird · · Score: 3, Informative

    Egoboo doesn't use the Quake 2 engine. It uses the Quake 2 modeler program. The engine is its own, a top-down tile-based 3D engine.

  368. Re:Microsoft ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, this website is free, and I doubt the guys appreciate you denying them their needed revenue.

  369. Blender by color · · Score: 1

    What about blender? It's going to be GPL soon

    www.blender3d.com

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  370. Flaskmpeg too by homer_ca · · Score: 2

    Flaskmpeg is another must-have for backing up DVDs. It's not updated as frequently and doesn't have the editing features, but it's still one of the best apps for transcoding from MPEG1/2 to other video codecs.

  371. MP3 Players by benjamindees · · Score: 1
    Coolplayer is a quick, small MP3 player with a slick GUI that includes OGG Vorbis support and runs fine on a P/133.

    If you *have* to play MP3's on that old 486, though, mpg123 runs on the command line. A Windows port is avaliable here

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  372. Bloodshed Dev-C++ by gorehog · · Score: 1

    I dont know for SURE if it's open source, and it might not be non-geek, but I think it's a good idea to spare 10-15 megas for a good beginners c++ compiler. You can get it here, just follow the links. Good for students, hobbyists, and maybe quake modders too!

  373. NetTime. Small and Useful. by Phil+Gregory · · Score: 2

    NetTime is a BSD-licensed NTP client for Windows. While NTP isn't exactly a high-priority thing for most end users, they (or at least my sisters do) like having their clock give the correct time. It's also pretty small (2MB), so it souldn't exactly be crowding other programs out.

    And for those administering Windows desktops on a network, it's great. It can use NTP or just the standard Unix date service. I have it installed on every computer at work.



    --Phil (I have to use Windows, but I can make it bearable.)
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  374. Kobo Deluxe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am intrigued that no one proposed
    Kobo Deluxe
    (http://olofson.net/skobo/)
    yet.
    (Or maybe i've been a bit myopic...)
    GPL'd, nice, small, Linux and Windows.
    Should definitely be in.
    Arnie (Yes, yes, account is on the way)

  375. neat add-on by psych031337 · · Score: 2

    ...would be uptime for win32.

    There is a OSS tool that does exactly that by a guy called "titus", unfortunately I can't find a download link right now.

    Another thing I would miss dearly on such a CD is nmapNT. It requires a patched TCP/IP stack but after that it works just as beautifully as it's *ix counterparts.

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  376. GNU utilities for Win32 by fetta · · Score: 1

    Include the GNU utilities for Win32. Put it in the user's path and it won't bother them if they don't use the tools.

    If you want to transition folks to Linux, prepare them by familiarizing them with the basic tools. Personally, I've found tools such as grep and sed to be indispensible even when I'm using Windows.

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  377. I must say Virtualdub, really great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    piece of software.... Also why the heck has no one ported it to linux yet??? This piece of software is one of the main reason i have windows on dual boot..

  378. emulators, of course! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    use google, and find emulators galore, many are open source.

    Then, grab some of the front ends out there, and turn your comp into a game machine - even works on older machines. I got an old 486/33 running nintendo games - it's a great second life for the old beast...

    On newer machines, run N64 games and PSX games...play supernintendo and genesis games over the internet against other folks...it's great fun (btw, linux is my main os, and there are plenty for it as well).

    The games, on the other hand, aren't quite open, but, ah, well, er, nuff said. In any case, there are some half-decent homebrew games, ants for the gameboy, for example.

    And of course there is mame. there are also many java games, some quite fun. Stratego and tank games (ala Combat), etc.

  379. FileZilla! FileZilla! by hendridm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Once upon a time, I was looking for a free alternative to CuteFTP. I love Cute, but I was always sick of finding a crack for it whenever I reinstalled it, and I liked using they 2.8 version as their newer version have some annoyances. I am unemployed and money is tight, so even though I would love to pay the $40 for CuteFTP since I use it so much, rent came first. So I went to find an FTP client that had similar features to my favorite version of my favorite FTP program.

    What a challenge. There are some truly aweful FTP clients out there for Windows. I downloaded pretty much every FTP client on download.com and thought there was no decent FTP client out there. Finally, I did a search on sourceforge.net. The first hit came up with FileZilla.

    FileZilla is a great app, nicely modeled after the GOOD features of CuteFTP with not of the crap. It's free and open source. It's a must have for anyone looking for a decent, free FTP client for Windows.

  380. great ?/. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is one of the best "ask slashdot"s i have seen (and i lurk a lot ;) ). i am finding new things left and right. thanks!

  381. Fish'N'Chips already served! by supremo · · Score: 1

    I have already smacked together an ISO containing excellent Open Source software for Windows. It's called TheBOSS-ISO and goes under the release name Fish'N'Chips. Even if you don't like the ingredients, you may want to look at my recipe for ideas ;)

  382. terminal emulators by drew · · Score: 1

    although your average windows user probably has little use for a terminal emulator, tera term pro (and it's ssh plugin) and putty both spring to my mind immediately when someone mentions open source windows software.

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  383. FCEUltra by {Hecubus} · · Score: 1

    FCEUltra is a completely open source NES emulator. It beats the shit out of nesticle, and is available for linux, win32, and even DOS. http://fceultra.sourceforge.net

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  384. Quake 2 by lingqi · · Score: 2

    and probabbly Quake 3 in a couple monthes.

    hey, it's released GPL. granted, not the game data; but the entire engine -- out-dated as it may be right now -- is a damn good rendering engine in its time, and probabbly in the history books as well.

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  385. OSS my family has enjoyed by half-troll · · Score: 1

    My father has found zoe from evectors pretty useful. Kind of google for email. He also has found mozilla to be a step up. In addition he has set up a wiki based on Squeak. And, obviously, uses Squeak. He is currenly looking at StarLogo 2.0. My sister has found a wide assortment of VRML tools useful. My mother has a hard time with most things these days, but she likes the idea of Squeak. None of them have used apache, but they are almost ready.

  386. offline browser: WinHTTrack by Janus+Daniels · · Score: 1

    Try WinHTTrack, for Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP
    http://www.httrack.com/
    They released a new version a week ago.

    From the website:

    HTTrack is a free (libre/open source) and easy-to-use offline browser utility.

    It allows you to download a World Wide Web site from the Internet to a local directory, building recursively all directories, getting HTML, images, and other files from the server to your computer. HTTrack arranges the original site's relative link-structure. Simply open a page of the "mirrored" website in your browser, and you can browse the site from link to link, as if you were viewing it online. HTTrack can also update an existing mirrored site, and resume interrupted downloads. HTTrack is fully configurable, and has an integrated help system.

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  387. www.pcmag.com by wwi · · Score: 1

    I dont recall seeing PC Magazine utilities
    mentioned in this discussion. The source is available
    for these utilities and they can be
    very useful for Win32 users. For instance,
    they just came out with the latest version
    of RoboType3.

  388. HTML-Kit by NTT · · Score: 1

    HTML-kit, prolly the best Win32 text editor for the webmaster; not exactly OSS variety of free, but free as in beer. Good solid program. To many features to list here, but some examples: completely customizable, color coding for scripts and scripting langs., built in HTML validator. Rumor has it that the next version will work in Wine

    http://www.chami.com/html-kit/

  389. J is Nice, Too by wwi · · Score: 1

    For those interested in trying
    a pure Java text editor, also
    try J before deciding.

    Pure Java Text Editor

  390. 1964 - best GPL Nintendo64 emulator only for Win32 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    None have ported this title over to Unix yet. It is GPL'd and possible to port to Unix, but alas everyone is busy elsewhere. 1964 uses openGL graphics and is faster than the 2nd greatest emulator, UltraHLE.

    1964 should be included on this Solid Gold Opensource CDROM alongside MAME.

  391. PySol by TheSnakeMan · · Score: 3, Informative
    A couple of ACs posted it, but didn't get modded up and I don't have any mod points right now.

    Solitaire, written in Python. Better than any other solitaire games I've seen (including some commercial). There are something like 200 different solitaire games built in.

    It can be found here.

    There isn't a windows build on the page, it's python, dude.

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  392. developers? by oordaz · · Score: 0

    is out there one or two developers?

    dont forget:

    java development kit

    netbeans ide (maybe forte CE)

    borland c++ free compiler

    jedit!

  393. File Manager by David+Ishee · · Score: 1
    2xExplorer is the best dual pane file manager I've seen. It's not GPL, but it is free...

    http://netez.com/2xExplorer

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  394. Two that haven't been mentioned yet: by Thelgar · · Score: 1
    • Home Planet, a space exploration tool for Windows
    • AmphetaDesk, an open-source cross-platform news aggregrator

    Enjoy

  395. Well I was refering to my Grandma (bless her) by BoomerSooner · · Score: 1

    She almost kicked my moms ass (they live together, it's like watching a free sitcom every visit) when she switched her from AOL to a LAN connection on her Cox Cable.

    I never heard the end of it. AOL was so much easier. I had her show me how it worked and for the life of me it was the most confusing/busy interface I've ever seen. If Grandma can master AOL she could probably use Putty.

  396. Geeks and Open source by abdu · · Score: 1

    How do you expect users to be interested in Open source, look at source, change source and NOT be geeks? Do you really think you will find a grandma type of user (your cd's intended audience) who will be interested in looking at source code but considered not a geek!? Your grandma will be interested ONLY in friendy easy to use software. Best of freeware is what you need to do.

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    1. Re:Geeks and Open source by hether · · Score: 2

      I may be way off base here, but the way I am understanding it the user won't be interested in the Source part of Open Source - but they will be interested in the Open part.

      In other words, they're tired of supporting BG and his monopoly and other big companies and would like to go with Free, open source software as an alternative. Kind of like buying and listening to indie bands instead of supporting RIAA and the other big giants, but not knowing or caring anything about how to play guitar or make the music themselves.

      Freeware would do it, but I think that the asker is looking to show off the best of open source projects for a reason and is trying to make a point that open source stuff in particular is equivalent/superior to other software. Who knows? He probably just got an idea in his head and decided to run with it. Plus he gets the thrill of having his question on ask /.

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  397. linux via loadlin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but that isn't _windows_ open source software... *sigh*

  398. Sell them the API then sell them the API tools by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

    As business models go it seems to be working.

    It's even got people prepared to promote it with words like "better" and "faster".

    Text files are so amazing universal that it's a crime to not utilise their power and the many approaches one can take to the data.

    Binary configuration files are the devils spawn.

    Pray, which is the quicker way to change the box's ip

    vi /etc/rc.conf

    or navigate through control panel?

    or write a visual basic program to do it for me?

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    1. Re:Sell them the API then sell them the API tools by Peaker · · Score: 2

      While I agree text files are pretty cool from many aspects, I disagree with your claims:

      Text files are so amazing universal that it's a crime to not utilise their power and the many approaches one can take to the data.

      Text files are not what's universal, its the text-able API to access them that's universal. This can work on binary data, which has an alternate text representation, but still retains the binary capabilities of algorithmic efficiency and such.

      Binary configuration files are the devils spawn.

      To this claim I can only reply: No, they're not.

      Pray, which is the quicker way to change the box's ip ... or navigate through control panel?

      Although a Linux guru will reconfigure Linux stuff faster than a Windows guru configured Windows, this is hardly because of the text files. Its because of an unrelated issue, the user interface.

      For example, take a more efficient Control Panel approach, where you type a couple of strokes and it fires the control panel, and then you type "ip a" or some shortcut for the ip address configuration and it jumps you right there, in which you easily change the IP... This should be at least as fast as editing with a text editor. Actually, due to the various types of configuration fields, a specialized GUI for editing the configuration should often be quite faster than a simple text file editor.

      The KDE control center has taken this approach partially: You can search the control panel instead of navigating through, but its still not completely keyboard oriented and more keyword oriented rather than word-search oriented).

      As long as a system retains its ability to access the configuration by unified API's that can access all types of other data, it does not matter whether its stored as text, because it can easily be represented that way. If its binary, many algorithmic efficiencies can be implemented.

  399. WinSCP2 / InfoZip / Calypso Email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WinSCP2
    http://winscp.vse.cz/eng/

    An interface to secure file transfer like the ol' WS_FTP we used to know and love so long ago.

    Simply a must have for transfering files for website maintenance.
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    http://www.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/

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    Calypso Email: an excellent viral resistant alternative to Lookout Express

    http://cws.internet.com/mail-calypso.html
    Downl oad:
    http://download.mcsdallas.com/binaries/calyp so/cal ypso33.exe

    Cheers.

  400. Solar IRC OpenSource by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is an exelent client of IRC for windows.

    The download site is www.solar-opensource.org

    But this software dont have an english version, Only Spanish.

  401. Um, hello, obvious omission... by fdisk3hs · · Score: 1

    Just one word, guys:

    EMACS!!!!!!!!

  402. A website just for this by Allnighterking · · Score: 2

    Free Ware Home is a website full of software and components dedicated to just this concept. And here by free he means:

    1. No crippleware
    2. No demoware
    3. No restrictions.

    Great site and a lot of really good stuff.

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  403. if cygwin is out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how about gnuwin32 .

  404. Re:VNC for remote control (a slight clarification) by Software · · Score: 2
    I prefer TightVNC to VNC, though it sounds vaguely like a porn flick, because it has better compression. But either version of VNC is a good choice.

    Also, in case it wasn't clear, Microsoft is promoting remote control software, but their own remote control software, not VNC. If you read the Windows 2000/XP EULA, you'll see that it's against the EULA to use VNC from a Linux box to a Windows box:

    Except as otherwise permitted by the NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, and Remote Desktop features described below, you may not use the Product to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other executable software residing on the Workstation Computer, nor may you permit any Device to use, access, display, or run the Product or Product's user interface, unless the Device has a separate license for the Product.
  405. Open Source Games by hyeh · · Score: 1

    Good open source games for Windows would be:

    Abuse/fRaBs
    Wolfenstein 3D
    Doom
    Quake
    Quake II

    With all the id games, I believe the levels are still copyrighted. Nothing wrong with running user created levels though. :)

    Also, Mozilla and OpenOffice.org are indispensible.

  406. Re:While There is Warmongering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let the kikes fight their own wars -- it's not our problem!

  407. ROFL.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from the screenshots, Abiword looks soooo old and outdated and well lame. so why would I want to switch to an inferior product ?

  408. Windows Open Sore Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about Outlook?

  409. Clone Paintshop Pro by LPetrazickis · · Score: 1

    What's with the love of floating palettes? Toolbars are supposed to be docked so that the image you are editing isn't topographically identical to a donut!

    Seriously, having to scroll or drag stuff because a toolbar is obscuring a rectangular area in the middle of the pic is a pain in the ass.:(

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  410. Not Instead by LPetrazickis · · Score: 1

    How about instead of being replaced, the right-clicking is complemented it with a WIMP interface?:)

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  411. No it wouldn't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Photoshop bundles up all it's pallettes into one window, it's a seriously crippling interface. Gimp allows a certain amount of freedom in having all of it's windows totally independant.

    This puts some of the GIMP's UI into the hands of your WM. If your WM sucks, then GIMP sucks, too. This is not to say that GIMP's UI is perfect; I'm just saying that a bad WM makes gimp worse. You mention having problems with other apps getting in between GIMPs windows: This is a problem with your WM. Put GIMP on it's own desk, and you will not have this problem. Your WM doesn't have virtual desktops? Then your sucky WM is making GIMP worse than it really is.

    On the whole, I agree that GIMP could use some help in the UI department. I read through the enitre "Grokking the GIMP" (which is a great manual BTW) and I still don't know how to draw straight lines with GIMP (there's no "line tool" that I know of). But a good WM will make GIMP that much more bearable.

  412. Hmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    From the Win32 Gimp page ...

    The program(s) might crash unexpectedly or behave otherwise strangely. (But of course, so do many commercial programs on Windows.)


    but I guess Windows users are used to unexpected behavior already, so ...
    1. Re:Hmm ... by HughsOnFirst · · Score: 2
      Yes as a matter of fact explorer.exe ( not IE, just the desktop ) just crashed for the third time today on my windows 2000 machine.

      "might crash unexpectedly or behave otherwise strangely"

      So what's so strange about an unexpected crash on windows?
      I just walked past Macy's and they had dozens of 36 inch plasma displays showing windows bluescreens in the windows.
  413. No S*** !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is great! I'd didn't know about a few
    of 'em either. Downloaded 'em and WOW! COOL!

  414. httrack - website copier by solferino · · Score: 2

    a great example of french programming excellence is httrack - a powerful website copier / offline browser released under the GPL

    it runs under both windows and linux (both an rpm and a deb exist), and includes both a GUI and a command line operation capability

  415. You are an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't even know how to change the prompt on a *NIX box.

  416. Not so by joelgrimes · · Score: 1

    From the web site you linked to:

    "PHPEdit is completely free and is released under the PHPEdit licence."

    It's a short, sweet license giving the right to redistribute the code or binaries, but it's not GPL'd.

    Nice editor, though.

  417. Parsec - Space Combat Game by DerKlempner · · Score: 1

    Parsec is a wonderful simulated space combat game that has been under development for about 6 years. Unfortunately, it is NOT an open-source project, but it is currently not even in its completed form. Who knows what the future holds?

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  418. dscaler (aka dTv) by catalyst-killed-the- · · Score: 1

    Amazing open source TV capture software

    http://www.dscaler.org/

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  419. GAIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    gaim.sourceforge.net

    just released a Win32 version Definatly my messanger of choice!

    ~Mark Riggs
    rieperx@hotmail.com

  420. BIRC / ViRC by Mr2001 · · Score: 1

    Source code is available for BIRC, the Bisual IRC Client, and a source release for ViRC (available on the same site) is planned sometime in the next few months.

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  421. vegastrike or reaper3d by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how about reaper3d or vegastrike --two great opengl games on sourceforge

  422. viva la freecraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FreeCraft is gooooood stuff.

  423. Not sure if these fit, but... by Badaro · · Score: 1

    ZMatrix -> A pretty cool looking matrix screensaver / desktop enhancement.

    ffdshow -> An oss decoder for MPEG-4 movies, much better than divx.com's offering IMHO.

    ScummVM -> Play the Lucasarts classics on Windows 2000/XP.

    Scilab -> A open-source tool similar to MatLab.

    Other great ones already mentioned are VirtualDub, Mozilla, VNC and OpenOffice.

    []s Badaro

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  424. Alternatives to WiMP by ted_nugent · · Score: 1

    For audio, there is FreeAmp.

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  425. Vim with Cream! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Add some Cream to that Vim:
    http://cream.sourceforge.net/

    VIM is extremely powerful. With Cream, VIM is now easy! Cream makes Vim windows shortcut compliant (Control X, C, V for Cut Copy and Paste).

    Cream is officially in beta, but it is reliable. Vim with Cream has recently replaced all of my other text, HTML, Perl, and C editors that I've collected over the years. A must include.

  426. Cream for VIM ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most Windows users won't learn VIM, So add some Cream to that VIM:
    http://cream.sourceforge.net/

    VIM is extremely powerful. With Cream, Vim is now easy! Cream makes Vim windows shortcut compliant (Control X, C, V for Cut, Copy, Paste).

    Cream is officially in beta, but it is reliable. VIM with Cream has recently replaced all of my other text, HTML, Perl, and C editors that I've collected over the years. A must include.

  427. Compression utils by ted_nugent · · Score: 1
    For some reason the current version of JZip is only at this other page.

    UltimateZip was good, but seems to have gone adware and is now running out of steam. Try FilZip, even though it isn't open source yet. See the bottom of the page and let the guy know that open source matters!

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  428. PDF Generator by ted_nugent · · Score: 1
    This is the best discussion I've seen on Slashdot in ages. I thought I knew all the good Win32 free software, but I've picked up a bunch of tips here. Maybe someone should start a Freshwin site?

    Anyway, free basic PDF functionality can be had using Ghostscript and GSView. Granted, it is a two step process to create PDFs with this method, but it works and it is free.

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  429. What make Linux great is all the apps.... by jhoger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Never thought you'd hear that?

    I guess I didn't notice the transition. It used to be "there's no apps for Linux." Now Linux is showing up Windows since "out of the box" it's actually usable because of all the apps bundled with it.

    Whereas with Windows you have to dig for Free instead of just Stolen.

    -- jhoger

  430. open source database by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    see SAP The FREE Enterprise Open Source Database look at http://www.sapdb.org/ versions for all_nixes and windoze as well.

  431. Then sell them a sub to MSDN by DrSkwid · · Score: 2

    Text files are not what's universal, its the text-able API to access them that's universal

    That's a tenuous distinction.

    I guess one could export the registry to text, perform the manipulations and then import the result back into the registry if one really wanted to.

    Its because of an unrelated issue, the user interface.
    Text based files enables one to *choose* the user interface. A specialised GUI for editing them can provide all the customization of the process one desires.

    Aside from hex-editing, binary configuration files require the program to know the format of the file in order for them to translate it to and from a human readable form.

    Binary files don't print too well either.

    As long as a system retains its ability to access the configuration by unified API's
    We only need one API.
    open read seek write close

    If its binary, many algorithmic efficiencies can be implemented
    That tin god, efficiency.
    The only possible saving is file size and that is not compelling.

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  432. Re:VNC for remote control (a slight clarification) by Sleeper+Service · · Score: 1

    The standard VNC distribution now includes compression suitable for very low bandwidth connections, ala TightVNC.

    You can get it from: RealVNC Ltd.

  433. opencd project by Arend · · Score: 1

    The http://www.theopencd.org project aims at providing a cd with open source s/w for windows.

  434. windows freeware by UncleBoy · · Score: 1

    IRFANVIEW

  435. Adding Window Managers to the list? by daemonsito · · Score: 1

    IMHO, it should be a nice thing to show the windows users how is the GUI experience on Unix.

    So, add as mutch windowmanagers as you can compile (and that can fit in the CD :)

  436. Thanks a million... by rarkm · · Score: 1

    I have sort of lost touch with what's going on in open source. This thread gave me incentive to try some of the excellent stuff mentioned. As I've flirted with Linux on and off, I was aware of Ghostscript and GIMP, but never thought they'd be ported to x86 machines. Last night I installed both of them and they are absolutely teriffic! (especially Ghostscript which is the only utility I know of that can convert a postscript or EPS image into another format). Let's do this thread again real soon!!

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  437. Forum for non-geeks and families... by avgJo · · Score: 1

    I am now hosting a forum, http://www.cafewire.com, specifically for non-geeks and families who use Microsoft, but are thinking or getting ready to make their move to Linux. I know, I know: we don't need another stinking forum! The intent is to offer forums for current MS Office products, where alternatives can be discussed. It is all so that Microsoft Office users can gain exposure to the world of Linux, Open Source, and that there is help out there to help break free from the trance that those Microsoft advertising campaigns has put us under. Since this is a new forum, I am totally open to ideas. I just wish to make the transition for the average user as painless as possible.

  438. GNUWin-II is out ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    GNU Generation, a student association at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology of Lausanne, proudly announces the release of GNUWin-II,
    a collection of free and open source software for Windows, which luckily contains most of the software that was proposed some days ago on slashdot.

    It comes on a CD with more than 50 applications, articles, and a four-language (yes it's swiss)
    html based interface to help newcomers discover Free Software.

    The complete GNUWin-II can be browsed online.
    The ISO image of the CD
    can be downloaded here or better on Swiss SunSITE mirror ftp or http. It is also possible to order a CD in Europe.

  439. Questionable by theLOUDroom · · Score: 2

    I think saying that people switching to Linux would not want a UI change is questionable.
    I switched to Linux because I like the UI better. I use KDE and I love the way it handles things. I like that the middle mouse button opens a link in a new window. I love being able to hit ALT-F2 and then type in a command, open a link or browse a directory, and the tab completion makes this even easier.
    I'm willing to learn a new UI as long as it's better.
    I use my computer many hours per week, and if 10 minutes of learning pays off as 10 minutes less a week, that learning is definately worth it.
    I think if someone is going to try openoffice or mozilla, it shows that their willing to try something different.
    I'm not saying Linux is god in terms of usability (a lot of apps admittedly suck on this front), but the way Linux does some things is better and shouldn't be changed just because MS's UI isn't as good. Ex: KDE by default gives me 4 virtual desktops. This is good. I like this. It gives me more space for my programs. It confuses a first time user, but if you explain it to them, it really doesn't take them more than 2 minutes to comprehend. The same thing for the "Group similar tasks" option, it's not the same as windows, and requires a 2 minute explanation, but one you've got it, you don't want to go back to the old way of doing things.

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    1. Re:Questionable by stephenbooth · · Score: 2
      I use my computer many hours per week

      Which, in my experience, makes you an atypical user. I also use my computer a lot, I'd estimate that on a typical day I spend 14 hours plus on one computer or another. I'm also an atypical user.

      Most of the people I know with a PC probably use it for less than an hour a day. They check their mail, maybe hit a few web sites then go and do something else. For these people having to learn a new UI isn't that good an investment of time.

      The point I was initially trying to make, and what I think this thread was more about was not so much the features you mention of the virtual desktops &c in KDE etc; it's more about if a certain set of key strokes does a particular task (e.g. copy to clipboard)in one app then to do the same thing in a different app the same keystrokes should be used, if a certain command (e.g. Preferences/Options) is on a particular menu in one app then it should be on the same menu in all apps. It's about not having to, when you change apps, change the way to you work or having to stop to think where commands are or remembering what keystrokes to use in this app for a common function.

      Stephen

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  440. Re:VNC for remote control (a slight clarification) by devnullify · · Score: 1

    I sure hope that licence doesn't apply to 2000 Server+...It would boggle the mind how many licences would need to be purchased to run a large site on IIS. I know, I know, IIS is evil, and I agree, but there are large sites running it.