At the end of the day, Google wants people to use it's service. Rationalizing that users could do x or y to make it acceptable, or to mitigate a stupid circle mistake doesn't change the fact that to some of us we don't want the headache. Facebook + LinkedIn work better for me under the current privacy designs of each service. Google's doesn't. Whether or not anyone at Google understands doesn't matter as it's what I (and many other non "silicon valley" professional types) want. Once google gets a large number of users I am sure they will relent on this privacy setting.
It was Facebooks walled private garden when I joined before it was open to non-Edu accounts that got me to use it over MySpace. Funny, Facebook allows for more privacy than Google+, who would have thought lol
Easy solution, stop putting anything up of consequence on Facebook. That's what I did, problem solved. It's now just a glorified email box for me to deal with people that prefer communicating over facebook
Some of us maintain a separation of professional from personal life via the use of separate email accounts etc. LinkedIn and Facebook makes this easy to maintain. For example, being public on facebook means professional colleagues would know of that account and attempt to connect there which makes for awkward rejects of "friend requests." Yes, I could play with various circle settings, but that means a chance I make a mistake at one point in posting and that's not worth the risk.
The non-tech people actually do this quite often, something my colleagues at Google don't get since they don't experience a need for this separation in their professional world.
As I said, I don't want anything public -- which includes my name and gender. I don't understand why this is so difficult to provide? Even FACEBOOK allows this for users and Facebook sucks at privacy.
I would switch, but for some reason G+ won't let me have a non-public Google account profile setting or a limited version where only friends of my friends (like on facebook) can find me on a search.
Look, it WAS a great achievement. But like most things in the USA, for the last 30-40 years we never move on to something better. I believe with the space shuttle still flying we would never get a new program moving. The shuttle a great technical achievement, but an inherently flawed design for efficiency and frankly BORING at low earth orbit capability. Furthermore, at 0.5 BILLION per launch, it was just a waste of money repeating the same thing (essentially) again and again and again. We could launch two vehicles -- one for humans and one for the cargo for far less than this single shuttle bus.
Now lets see if we can get more practical MODERN vehicles moving forward now that this 1960/1970 vehicle is finally put out to pasture where it belonged 15 years ago.
i slightly agree with you, though i do find it to be a serious PITA to have to unencrypt every time i want to get something - do you use any other apps to handle that for you?
also, how big is your volume? the one i throw on there is only a few megs, but i can imagine the sadness that will occur once it stretches to a few hundred megs and has to be up/downed every time to sync something....any advice for that?
Simpler solution is just use a service that has individual encryption such as Spider Oak
Truecrypt volumes seem to negate a lot of usefulness of the system. You can't mount a Truecrypt volume on my smartphone to view a single file within the truecrypt volume. When you modify a single file within the Truecrypt volume, you get to upload the entire volume up to DropBox again which is a pain on slow upload connections.
Simpler solution, use a service that has individual encryption as an option such as Spider Oak
Sounds like you did a lot of stupid things in a row. If you don't know enough to backup your device before you mess with it you shouldn't be jailbreaking/rooting.
Yes, I heard about the EU regs as it is a HUGE racket money maker for the carriers in Europe the crazy roaming fees and expenses to buy a SIM per country.
So it really is a non-replicated feature that the US has practically an entire continent within the plans...
Strange, my friend living there found cell expensive. He used to tell colleagues how with our cell plan we would stay on the phone for like 4hrs straight just for the heck of it. I can't speak about coverage quality etc, but the plans were quite a bit more expensive pound for pound he told me.
I was speaking of roaming between countries in Europe as a comparison of roaming between states in the USA. No argument roaming on ATT in Europe costs more, but that's not what I was trying to get across. We don't have extra roaming charges to use our cell phones if we live in Maine and decide to visit California and use it there. Europeans do have this exact situation.
You missed the point of my write-up. When you go to Spain, how does your telecom provider work for you? Cost a lot extra to use in spain right? Or just buy a pay as you go sim, but your number is now different so not that useful while there...
I am not saying the US telecom industry has done a great job nor isn't greedy assholes. It is unfair to compare US telecom to any other region when almost all the countries are the size of a single state in the USA.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe European telecom plans are per country with significant roaming costs from country to country (or buy a SIM for each country). Whereas in the US all the wireless carriers allow at no "extra cost" use across the entire country -- and the US is approximately the same size of all of Europe.
It's a lot simpler to have great features/service at a cheap rate in a single state (which is a country if you're in Europe). Try doing that across the entire European continent and see how the US fares. What are the real costs for a European to get the same features in their country and ALL the countries in the same plan (i.e. data use, texting, minutes, etc)? I have a feeling it isn't as cheap or superior than the US...
Thanks for your helpful reply (unlike the silly anonymous coward replies above).
I am one of those that never saw much use for multiple "desktops" on my computer, and don't especially need it on a smart phone. What I would like is an easy way to just delete an app I don't want. The extra capability you describe, while nice for those that want to do it, it just makes things more conceptually confusing. It's strange that a nice and clear existing button called Remove that you drag an app to remove from the desktop also doesn't have some prompt like "Delete app or just the shortcut?"
It really shows a key difference (btw, am a Windows person and linux tinkerer) -- macs you don't use uninstall programs (mostly), windows you have uninstall programs (which android basically used as a model).
Additionally, while you and I understand these concepts. My mother and other non-techy friends would NEVER understand all this and would never use. It would be great if android had a simple user experience skin or something.
It's the simplicity of just getting stuff done with less options as the flip-side. Here's one example related to how Android makes things more complicated then needed for most people -- deleting/removing/uninstalling an app you no longer want on your device.
To remove an app in iOS hold down your finger on the icon and then click the "X" to delete the app. Done
In Android (2.2 with HTC Sense is all I have access to at the moment), go to list of applications window, select the Settings app, scroll through the non-alphabetized(?) list and select Applications, next select Manage Applications, next find app you want to delete in list and select it, and finally click Uninstall. Phew! Maybe there is a faster way, but this was what I figured out after having to google "Remove android apps" since when I tried to drag the app into the Garbage Bin didn't work. Happy to learn if there is a better way...
With each release, Apple reduces my interest in Jailbreaking. Fact is, the tethering and the unlock are the only reason left for me nowadays. If apple wants to kill jailbreaking, just kill the reasons to jailbreak. I know of one big jailbreak dev who stopped with iOS 4 as he didn't really find it needed anymore with the new APIs apple had introduced in ios 4
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One down, next let's get name fixed as well.
That's just unsearchable in Google search, not within the Google Plus search. You're still publicly listed by name and gender within Plus
At the end of the day, Google wants people to use it's service. Rationalizing that users could do x or y to make it acceptable, or to mitigate a stupid circle mistake doesn't change the fact that to some of us we don't want the headache. Facebook + LinkedIn work better for me under the current privacy designs of each service. Google's doesn't. Whether or not anyone at Google understands doesn't matter as it's what I (and many other non "silicon valley" professional types) want. Once google gets a large number of users I am sure they will relent on this privacy setting.
It was Facebooks walled private garden when I joined before it was open to non-Edu accounts that got me to use it over MySpace. Funny, Facebook allows for more privacy than Google+, who would have thought lol
Easy solution, stop putting anything up of consequence on Facebook. That's what I did, problem solved. It's now just a glorified email box for me to deal with people that prefer communicating over facebook
Some of us maintain a separation of professional from personal life via the use of separate email accounts etc. LinkedIn and Facebook makes this easy to maintain. For example, being public on facebook means professional colleagues would know of that account and attempt to connect there which makes for awkward rejects of "friend requests." Yes, I could play with various circle settings, but that means a chance I make a mistake at one point in posting and that's not worth the risk.
The non-tech people actually do this quite often, something my colleagues at Google don't get since they don't experience a need for this separation in their professional world.
As I said, I don't want anything public -- which includes my name and gender. I don't understand why this is so difficult to provide? Even FACEBOOK allows this for users and Facebook sucks at privacy.
I would switch, but for some reason G+ won't let me have a non-public Google account profile setting or a limited version where only friends of my friends (like on facebook) can find me on a search.
Look, it WAS a great achievement. But like most things in the USA, for the last 30-40 years we never move on to something better. I believe with the space shuttle still flying we would never get a new program moving. The shuttle a great technical achievement, but an inherently flawed design for efficiency and frankly BORING at low earth orbit capability. Furthermore, at 0.5 BILLION per launch, it was just a waste of money repeating the same thing (essentially) again and again and again. We could launch two vehicles -- one for humans and one for the cargo for far less than this single shuttle bus.
Now lets see if we can get more practical MODERN vehicles moving forward now that this 1960/1970 vehicle is finally put out to pasture where it belonged 15 years ago.
Slashdot must be hard up on money or something to post such an incendiary topic title?
2 weeks from submissions to Apple to release is hardly worthy of a "FINALLY", 2 weeks is about the normal lenth of time for new app review by Apple.
Darn, I mean goo.gl
And again, it's two characters different?? Who cares??
Seriously, g.co is lame. The Goog.Gl is so much more fun.
Why does anyone care about saving 3 characters of space!?
Sounds great. What service?
i slightly agree with you, though i do find it to be a serious PITA to have to unencrypt every time i want to get something - do you use any other apps to handle that for you?
also, how big is your volume? the one i throw on there is only a few megs, but i can imagine the sadness that will occur once it stretches to a few hundred megs and has to be up/downed every time to sync something....any advice for that?
Simpler solution is just use a service that has individual encryption such as Spider Oak
Truecrypt volumes seem to negate a lot of usefulness of the system. You can't mount a Truecrypt volume on my smartphone to view a single file within the truecrypt volume. When you modify a single file within the Truecrypt volume, you get to upload the entire volume up to DropBox again which is a pain on slow upload connections.
Simpler solution, use a service that has individual encryption as an option such as Spider Oak
Sounds like you did a lot of stupid things in a row. If you don't know enough to backup your device before you mess with it you shouldn't be jailbreaking/rooting.
Which equipment is that? Last I checked android phones needed "rooting" thanks to carriers locking the phones...
Yes, I heard about the EU regs as it is a HUGE racket money maker for the carriers in Europe the crazy roaming fees and expenses to buy a SIM per country.
So it really is a non-replicated feature that the US has practically an entire continent within the plans...
Strange, my friend living there found cell expensive. He used to tell colleagues how with our cell plan we would stay on the phone for like 4hrs straight just for the heck of it. I can't speak about coverage quality etc, but the plans were quite a bit more expensive pound for pound he told me.
I was speaking of roaming between countries in Europe as a comparison of roaming between states in the USA. No argument roaming on ATT in Europe costs more, but that's not what I was trying to get across. We don't have extra roaming charges to use our cell phones if we live in Maine and decide to visit California and use it there. Europeans do have this exact situation.
You missed the point of my write-up. When you go to Spain, how does your telecom provider work for you? Cost a lot extra to use in spain right? Or just buy a pay as you go sim, but your number is now different so not that useful while there...
I am not saying the US telecom industry has done a great job nor isn't greedy assholes. It is unfair to compare US telecom to any other region when almost all the countries are the size of a single state in the USA.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe European telecom plans are per country with significant roaming costs from country to country (or buy a SIM for each country). Whereas in the US all the wireless carriers allow at no "extra cost" use across the entire country -- and the US is approximately the same size of all of Europe.
It's a lot simpler to have great features/service at a cheap rate in a single state (which is a country if you're in Europe). Try doing that across the entire European continent and see how the US fares. What are the real costs for a European to get the same features in their country and ALL the countries in the same plan (i.e. data use, texting, minutes, etc)? I have a feeling it isn't as cheap or superior than the US...
Just my $0.02 and I don't work in telecom. :)
Without that influx of IPO cash how can they fix these security holes???
Thanks for your helpful reply (unlike the silly anonymous coward replies above).
I am one of those that never saw much use for multiple "desktops" on my computer, and don't especially need it on a smart phone. What I would like is an easy way to just delete an app I don't want. The extra capability you describe, while nice for those that want to do it, it just makes things more conceptually confusing. It's strange that a nice and clear existing button called Remove that you drag an app to remove from the desktop also doesn't have some prompt like "Delete app or just the shortcut?"
It really shows a key difference (btw, am a Windows person and linux tinkerer) -- macs you don't use uninstall programs (mostly), windows you have uninstall programs (which android basically used as a model).
Additionally, while you and I understand these concepts. My mother and other non-techy friends would NEVER understand all this and would never use. It would be great if android had a simple user experience skin or something.
What of it is better, specifically?
It's the simplicity of just getting stuff done with less options as the flip-side. Here's one example related to how Android makes things more complicated then needed for most people -- deleting/removing/uninstalling an app you no longer want on your device.
To remove an app in iOS hold down your finger on the icon and then click the "X" to delete the app. Done
In Android (2.2 with HTC Sense is all I have access to at the moment), go to list of applications window, select the Settings app, scroll through the non-alphabetized(?) list and select Applications, next select Manage Applications, next find app you want to delete in list and select it, and finally click Uninstall. Phew! Maybe there is a faster way, but this was what I figured out after having to google "Remove android apps" since when I tried to drag the app into the Garbage Bin didn't work. Happy to learn if there is a better way...
With each release, Apple reduces my interest in Jailbreaking. Fact is, the tethering and the unlock are the only reason left for me nowadays. If apple wants to kill jailbreaking, just kill the reasons to jailbreak. I know of one big jailbreak dev who stopped with iOS 4 as he didn't really find it needed anymore with the new APIs apple had introduced in ios 4