"I just gave up and started rolling on the floor in spasms of
uncontrollable laughter'
Interesting that you chose to report this amusement as an AC.
It doesn't matter. The opinions of defamers such as yourself
are no longer considered canon by thinking people.
Simply because real history does not agree with the ideology of "Aryan Supremacy" does not make it a ranting falsehood
"Overrated. India was indeed advanced and had cities before
Egypt
(the primordial source of Minoan, hence Greek, hence Western
civilization and culture), but they were stalled by the time the Greek
civilization (the first great Western civilization) came to be and
never got back on their feet. China's primordial history is mostly
folktales and legend, unsubstanciated by arqueology. You can only say
China was more advanced technologically from around the time of the
Warring States period to the Mongol invasion."
I'm not even going to dignify such blatant racial defamation
with a response. White people have continually perpetrated falsehoods
with the malicious intent of defaming Indian Culture. Max Mueller,
Rudyard Kipling, you name it. We know the truth, and the fiction of the
so-called 'Greek Miracle', and they can no longer brainwash us with
their nonsense.
"You conveniently forgot the Byzantine Empire and the Republic
of Venice, which were doing just fine at that time."
Doing what? Spreading Christianty like a virus? Makes me
vomit just thinking about it.
"Most of it is self-inflicted. "
More racial defamation perpetrated by White Nordic
Christians. What now, are you going to say that African people enslaved
themselves? That the holocaust was a lie? I can almost hear the Waffen
Shultzstaffen shooting in the background when I encounter such comments.
"What a lot of bull. Why is it that people always try to pin
the
blame for their own problems on someone else? "
Because, in this case, it is true.
"What makes you think that the Japanese would have left it
there? There is no proof they did, quite the opposite."
Only briefly. That was a transient event.
It was not a crime against humanity, but a crime against humans. That
is different from the holocaust, which was the attempted murder of an
entire culture. That was a crime against humanity, because, as a
species, we can't afford to lose cultures. As heartless as this may
sound, we can afford to lose a few million people. People die
everywhere for many reasons, and humans kill other humans all
the time. It is the cannibal part of our brains andwe can't
pretend it doesn't exist.
We can't afford to lose an entire civilization,
their knowledge, and their contribution to human evolution (we would
have lost all Jewish contributions to human evolution if the Nazis had
had their way). We would not lose China's contributions to humanity
even if Japan had taken China under her wing.
What pisses me off about this whole 'bash Japan' business is
that it is basically the Eastern version of anti-semetism
(Anti-Nipponism, if you prefer).
Yes, it's true. They have done many bad things. But so has
every other country at some time. They haven't done anything abnormal
or inhuman. Killing humans is part of human nature (eradicating an
entire civilization from reality and history itself is not, it's
abnormal and inhuman). Even the Israeli Government has killed people
they shouldn't have, but so have we, and so has every country and every
regime.
What the anti-semites in the West and Middle-East
do is that they take these things that are true, and say (or
imply) from them that Jews and Israel are especially or uniquely bad in
some intangible way. This is called cultural defamation, and is a
malicious attempt made by anti-semites to foster hatred for Israel and
Jews in Israel and other parts of the world. This is unacceptable in an
enlightened world.
What the posts above do is basically the same thing to Japan.
They point out some bad things they did and imply that the Japanese are
uniquely or especially bad, and a thinking person would see that this
is just like anti-semetism.
No, it's based on an understanding of history that is not tainted by
narrow parochialism or bywestern propaganda, and the
anecdotal evidence I mentioned in my last post.
Why are you biting my head off anyway? I am not your enemy. I
have no particular malice against you.
Nor do I favor my country in this matter. Bear in
mind that India and the People's Republic went through a rather nasty
border war, which we lost rather badly due to superior tactics and
strategy on the part of the Chinese army. I am prepared to look above
such petty and stupid disputes to realize that the People's Republic is
more useful as an ally thanan enemy.
"Of course they were. And the Nazis were just liberating Ukraine from
the Bolsheviks."
Not an analogous situation. Instead of attacking me
personally, why don't you listen to what I have to say?
See here, the so called Third Reich was not just killing
people. They had a detailed plan for the eradication ofentire
civilizations. More than that, they planned to burn all records
produced by them, destroy their art, poetry, literature, buildings,
cities, and everything. They would have eradicated entire cultures from
history. Had they succeeded, we would not even know that these people
had existed in the past. The resultant damage to humanity as a species
would be incalculable. Imagine a world without Einstein, Schroedinger,
Heisenberg, Gibbs, Feynman and others. Would you want to live in a
world without their achievements? Would you want to live in a world
that did not know Quantum Theory as we do today, and, consequently did
not know how to make superconductors, semiconductor chips, lasers etc?
Would you want to live in a world where we could not learn
about Jewish history, and read Hebrew and Yiddish poetry, or understand
Jewish philosophy, or whatever?
That would be unthinkable to me, and I'm not even Jewish.
However, the Japanese had no such plan to eradicate Chinese
culture. They killed individual people as a means to control political
resistance. That is a bad thing, but humans kill other humans. That is
part of our nature as a species. It will always happen, and denying
that is unproductive.
What the Japanese did not do (nor did they ever intend to do)
was depopulate China. They did not have a "Final solution to the
Chinese question". They were never interested in eradicating China from
history. Believe me, if the British thought that China was a threat to
them, they would have tried to do so. They have tried to do it
elsewhere.
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"He was comparing Christianity of the past with todays
Christianity.
Which in case you haven't noticed is different to the past of burnings
and inquisitions."
That only means that the scope has reduced, but the ideology is still
there.
"Which
is evident enough in your post where you link to two of the same news
articles and the rest are fringe lunatics. "
Fringe lunatics? FRINGE LUNATICS???!?
Sure, and the Taleban are just a bunch of rowdy college kids!
Give me a break.
"Are those news articles representative of the entire
Christian community in today's U.S?"
Yes, because Christian doctrine itself is inherently
intolerant.
So is Islamic doctrine, in caseanybody accuses me of
defaming christians in favor of those nutjobs.
"Actually, I think they deserved it because I'm chinese"
OK, I deserved that for thinking you to be white, and I'm
sorry. I know that Japan did many questionable things in China (and
don't forget Korea, Sumatra, Singapore, and many other places).
I am also an Asian person. I believe that the natural
resources of our continent, together with the labour of our people,
should be utilized by the people of Asia, and not stolen and raped
byalien powers. I believe in the idea of Asian solidarity,
even if it is at the cost of some human lives (as ghoulish as it
sounds, it is also the truth).
Therefore it is my considered opinion that, in the long run,
Japanese rule would have been beneficial to Asia, and a realization of
theidea of Asian solidarity. I think that your perspective is
slightly tainted by the long standing blood feud that exists between
Japan and China. I can understand that, since such things have happened
everywhere in the world (English--French, Germany--Russia,
Uganda--C.A.R , Israel--Palestine, India--Pakistan etc.).
Bear in mind that most of the atrocities you mention were
committed by the Japanese military, and was the result of a military
junta. I believe that, had Japan been victorious in WW-II, the
millitary would have been disbanded eventually, and the territories
annexed by Japan would come under civilian government
control. I think that, if you look at this hypothetical situation in an
objective fashion,you will be hard-pressed to deny that that
a modern civilian government of an Asian country would not engage in
random acts of genocide against their own people (Asians).
This would not have happened under European/American
dominance. Bear in mind that China and India were the most enlightened
and advanced civilizations in the old world until the western powers
came. Our standard of living was considerably higher in the first
millenium of the Christian era than any country in Europe. We were
building empires and writing philosophy when they were burning witches
and fighting absurd religious crusades. All this is verifable truth.
Ask yourself then, why is it that Asian countries suffer from such
abjectpoverty today?
The answer to this question is complex, and many factors
contribute, but the one that stands out above all else in relative
priority is the Caucasian horde. It is the white man that is primarily
responsible, by strip-mining our lands, stealing our crops, defaming
our culture and heritage, raping our women, spreading their savage
religion among us like a disease and generally imposing regimes based
on brigandage and horror. If you contrast the atrocities committed by
the British, Germans,French, and Americans in Asia over the
period of 300 years versus the people killed by the Japanese over a few
years, you will see that what the Japanese have done is very little in
comparison to the systematic organized persecution by the white man.
Also, as further anecdotal evidence to vilify the Europeans
and negate the libelous exaggerations of the west made against Japan, a
friend of oneof my Grand uncles was (in a sense), a part of
the Japanese Army (he was a Subhedar in the AHF). I have listened to
many of his experiences with the Japanese (and those of other AHF
soldiers). The Japanese treated AHF soldiers with far more courtesy and
respect than the British did, and were genuinely interested in freeing
our countryby military action from the severe tyranny of the
British. Even Bose himself recieved plenty of cooperation from Japan
wrt weaponry, military supplies, and tactical and strategic assistance.
So it might be a good thing for you to look at this situation
from a broader perspective, and not ignore the greater idealogy of
Asian solidarity in the face of petty grievances.
That is the prevalent idealogy of Nordic Christianity. Anyone
who dares to challenge your innate belief in the racial superiority of
the "Aryan Race" (as Japan did) deserves to be murdered en-masse and
demonized. Your ignorant and hatemongering statements will only be
believed by other Nordic Christians, not by thinking people who have
actually studied real history. They know that Japan was the only Asian
country to have challenged the white lords. In order to do that, they
had to be a bit nasty sometimes, but that behavior was motivated by pragmaticism and a long-term view of achieving Asian solidarity and freedom from being killed by white people. In the final analysis, Japan cared (and still cares) more about the future prosperity of Asia than any European/American. Better an Asian country be ruled
by fellow Asian people than by a bunch of tyrranical, arbitrary and murderous
thugs that Europeans and Americans were and still are.
Install mozplugger and timidity++ on Linux, then delete your user pluginreg.dat in ~/.mozilla/firefox and restart browser & it should work (did for me).
The noun 'flaw' (specifically) was misused here, I agree. However, the
original poster to whom I replied made the implication that verbing
nouns (any noun) is incorrect. That is not true. If he had said "Please
do not verb THIS noun", it would've been ok.
Also has exposed the hypocrisy of american politics. When the tsunami hit South/Southeast Asia a few months ago, and relief efforts were under way, Americans resorted to libelous accusations of ethnic discrimination regarding the refugees. Now, with Katrina, and the deplorable and inhuman disregard and neglect with which the whites in America have treated the African Americans trapped inside NO, their dirty laundry is finally coming out.
Well. I guess that's good. KDE on Linux does do part of this transparent encryption stuff though (not fully, only with some data) with KDE wallet manager.
It's 'transparent' because it can be accessed using KDE's dcop interprocess communication thingie from ny running KDE application (including the clipboard and stuff). It remains to see if KDE people will extend that functionality further or not.
"Who the fuck are "my buddies" who think all Hindus are potheads?"
I was speaking figuratively. However, bear in mind that racism and
anti-semetism has risen by 17% in the western world this year. That
means that, out of a random sample of westernpeople, at least
17% are racists and/or anti-semites.Assuming that you are a
normal westerner, it is likely that you have at least one
acquaintance who holds racist attitudes towards Hindus, just as they
hold racist/communal attitudes towards Jews, Blacks, Hispanics,
Eastasians, Eskimos, Martians or anybody not of their ilk.
"Wow, my opinion of you just did a 180"
OOOOOO. A shaheb thinks me so bad person. What should I do? Repent for
my transgression by picking tea leaves and breaking rocks while you
whip me? I do not give a flying fuck, sir. Why is it that some of you
western follk make such romantic and grandiose declarations
that involve a whole lot of arrogant presumption as though
people care what you think and the observable cosmos revolves around
your mind? Is this a Freudian sex-thing?
I was trying to educate and enlighten those that are believed
by many to be inherently uneducable. I believe that such claims are
wrong. You really should be less confrontational.
"I know must English scholars"
GERMANS! GERMANS! DON'T FORGET THE GERMANS! They were as bad.
"You totally come off in this post as a stupid racist prick (exactly
what you accuse others of)."
and your reacionary and knee-jerk reactions after reading my
posts instead of understanding them shows you to be simply a prick.
Where do you get off trying to lambaste me for saying the truth?
Ok, so it's still only about front-ends and some kind of
on-the-fly decryption strategy.The data itself is
encrypted in the same or similar way as it would with PGP, right?
"Encrypted
files look and work just like regular unencrypted files, as long as
you're logged in as the correct user. "
So can't somebody spoof a particular user's authentication
informationin windoze? I read somewhere that it can be done
in windoze w/out knowing passwords. Isn't it safer to encrypt important
data using keys that are generated in a way that is independent of any
of the OS's native authentication modules?
"They're encrypted with a key that
is itself encrypted with your password"
That's true for PGP also.
It seems to me that the only differences are in front ends
and stuff. The actual encryption processseems to me (based on
my understanding of what you said) the same as (or similar to) PGP.
I'm confused, enlighten me.
If I encrypted a folder in windoze using windoze explorer,
will I be able to read the file using some third party file manager
software that is not developed by microsoft or uses any of their SDK's
or whatever?
I'm not that widely read on encryption, but isn't the purpose of encryption to uh, encrypt information to look like garbage that you have to uh, decrypt using some sort of passphrase or key-pair and one of those, uh encryption algorithms, or something? Whatever I read on googling 'transparent encryption' seems rather vague and nebulous and seems just like regular encryption with a database backend and/or a nice ui. If you have any links specific to this 'transparent encryption' thing, please post them.
In Linux, run a standard installation of KDE. navigate to any file/directory using konqueror, then right click and goto the 'actions' context menu entry, and click on "encrypt & archive file/folder'. It does so using kgpg, KDE's frontend to gpg. You can use a passphrase to encrypt it if you want. That's pretty easy, and can't be crached ab initio by trojans or anything. So why do I have to use windoze?
Yes, that is a VERSION of the religion (and not a very
popular one anymore). You might want to tell that to your buddies who
think all hindus are potheads or whatever, and the fact that fanatical
sects of christianity like the Jehovah's Witneesses and the Mormons
have gone to far greater extremes of delusional fantasy than any in the
hindu religion.
"I learned a lot good and bad about the country"
Yeah, we're pretty normal that way, to the great dismay of many
westerners who believed all Indians to be either 'beggars' (Dominique
Lapierre), 'bastards' (Richard Nixon), or 'half-child-half-devil'
(Rudyard Kipling). Most western scholars who ever tried to 'study
Indian culture' in the past did so with explicit intent of bolstering
their own idealogy of White supremacy, such as the 'indologist' Max
Mueller or the confirmed racist and anti-semite Rudyard Kipling, or
many Christian Republicans todaymost of whom are
illiterate losers who lost their jobs to outsourcing and are
desperately looking for something about India that they can use for
their nefarious purpose of racial defamation, like they have been doing
with the Jewish folk in their own countries for many centuries. This is
why modern Indian scholars and even regular people have a hard time
taking any foreign 'Indian studies' seriously. The truth is that our
country has people of many different idealogies, from religious right
wingers, Islamic zealots/antisemites, fascist sympathizers and caste
extremists (on both ends) to marxists,pacifists,
secular humanists, supporters of Israel and the non-aligned. These are
the checks and balances that form a democratic society, something which
many Americans seem to have forgotten in their massive wave of
religious christian prosetylization. Over all, the more
enlightned views dominate, though.
The word "Aryan" in Sanskrit actually means, "the noble one".
It was used in Vedic/Pauranic societyprimarily as an
honorific to describe people believed to be of 'noble blood' or 'noble
caste'. As anachronistic as it may be, it was harmless, and not
intended to promote malice or hatred towards anybody.
What you may not know is that the concept of the 'Aryan
Race' as a separate ethnicity from the Caucasus region is a complete
fabrication.
It was first used as a racial/religious ideology
by Avestan-Persian people (they eventually named their country after it
"Iran<=>Aryan") to claim that those "western people" that
followed "Aryan Law" were inherently superior to "eastern people" who
followed "Pagan Law" (ie Hindus) and those "Semetic" people who
"deliberately" followed a "false god" (ie People of Judaic culture).
They used this as a partial
justification to conquer and opress people in their Satrapies in the
Indian subcontinent (In the words of Darius III: "I am an Aryan, of
Aryan blood and Aryan Heritage, I am thus great etc etc", Explains
something why he got his bum kicked by the Macedonians later on).
During the Islamic empires in India, Muslims
believed themselves to be of "Persian descent" (partially true) who
were merely "exiles" in India and somehow were "racially distinct" from
"brown hindus" and so destined by "Islamic Law" to rule over hindus and
"try" to "enlighten" them on "Aryan Ways", by resorting to poll taxes,
rampant brigandage and attempted genocide and what not.
Eventually, the crude and unrefined "Aryan Race" idealogy
was picked up by the British and a few Germannic scholars in India and
organized in writing into the so called "Aryan Invasion theory", the
idea that there were actually these "ubermenschen" people who came from
the Caucasus region and they
invaded the 'lesser' 'untermenschen' and "restored" the "natural order"
as decreed by "God". During the 19th century, the "Aryan Race" fiction
became very fashionable among evangelical Christians in Britain and
France, and hoax books like "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" were
written in an attempt to accomodate that idealogy with the idealogy
that there are these "semetic" people who are somehow "different" from
"Aryan people" in order to ferment long-standing antisemetic hatred
against people of Judaic cultures who were spread out in European and
Middle-Eastern countries.
One of the first people to refine this falsehood in an
articulate way so as to make it convincing to Europeans was Rudyard
Kipling, together with the "Nordic/Germannic greatness" idealogy
propagated by people like Wagner & Nietzche in Germany.
Before the rise of the so-called "third reich" in germany,
Adolf Hitler came across some old literature about all this and
realized how this concept of "Aryan Supremacy" can be used to galvanize
poor white Christians in Germany against Jewish people who the
Christians have traditionally scapegoated for all the problems and ills
in their lives, and organize a National German Socialist Party
of street-thugs and other generally unsavory elements of Germannic
countries into positions of power by sheer force of the mob.
This is how the Nazi Party was born.
Interestingly, the Indian struggle for independence was well
under way at this time, and most hindus were rather severely offended
at German people for using Sanskrit words and Vedic Art to propagate
their screwed up beliefs. Jawaharlal Nehru had openly and actively
criticized the Reich (was among the first people to do so). Hitler had
invited Nehru to visit Germany together with a British delegation so as
to try to convince him that Nazis were not the bad guys and that the
Reich was doing a lot of good in Germany, with technological progress,
economic improvements, greater industries etc etc. Nehru went
to Berlin and toured Germany and surrounding areas controlled by them,
and there was some mention in his writings about vis
The sad thing is to see people like you resorting to ad-hominems when
you can't get your point across in an intelligently. You attack
intelligence itelf by cloaking yourself in some sort of religious
frenzy and believe that you can convert people into your idealogy.
Well, it may have worked when you had armies on your side and an
infrastructure based on slavery and oppression, but it doesn't work
anymore. Even if you put one of your redneck guns to my head, or nail
me to a cross and burn me alive as you do, you will only convince
yourself, not me, because I know the greater truth which is based on
observation and fact, not on words written by people I don't know and
who haven't supported them with data.
The part that's dangerous is the 'new religious mania', where
the fanatics use what apparently seems 'enlightened','reasonable'
and/or 'scientific' to implicitly further an agenda of hate. Your hate
is obvious from your content and tone, and your disdain for logic and
reason does not interest me. I know that people like you seem to use
sense and reason but in reality have a hidden agenda of defamation and
bigotry.
Here are some links for YOU to meet people who do what you do:
All based on arguments that seem reasonable and, to the
superficial eye, based on fact. However, a truly thinking mind realizes
them for the hate propaganda they are.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions,
a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a
personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it
clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is
the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it."
---Einstein
and it was you rednecks that said 'God created Einstein, not
the other way round.' It was the antisemetism inherent in christians
that led you to hate him and other thinkerslike him in the
western world for revolutionizing our entire outlook on the universe,
just like you denied Darwinian Theory (and still do).
"Sell your car man, start riding your bike to work. "
You will realize the truth is when you choke to death on
Carbon Mono-oxide and what not.
"Dont turn on the AC. I read the other day about how sugar is bad for
you."
Yeah, and we "invented" evolution, and that still pisses you Christians
off doesn't it?
Yes, sugar IS bad for you. That is because it has short-chain
carbohydrates that are burned off as raw heat in the Krebs
Tricarboxylic Acid cycle quickly and ineffieciently and less is
converted to chemical energy required for muscles/bodily functions etc.
This is nothing new, thinking people have known it for a long
time. I can't help it if you are such a slave to your own slovenly
corporeal pleasures that you are unwilling to see the truth by checking
the facts.
"Listen to yourself, prophetic madman. Iraqi's don't die by
the
thousands at the hands of Americans soldiers or terrorists, perhaps of
natural causes. You're very fond of the hyperbole I can tell."
It's not hyperbole, it's a fact.
Iraqi constitution? A joke. A meaningless scrap of
paper that says nothing and does nothing. Citizens voting? Who cares?
They'll still lose all their oil and be reduced to beggars. 'Freedom'
is pointless without wealth and prosperity, which they will never have
as long as Uncle Sam wants his oil fix. Al Sadr army fighting
insurgents? Yeah, right. All the while conspiring to kill you behing
your back.
"You are French, aren't you?"
No monseiur. Do you even read? Were the French
persecuted by muslims for 900 years? If you were unable to deduce my
nationality by now, you justify the term 'redneck' that you used to
implicitly describe yourself.
"So is this what the religion of science is teaching these days?
Destroy the otherreligions because they're evil?"
Science is not a religion. Only an ignorant person would say
such a thing. Science is the very antithesis of religion. Science is
based on the scientific method, which involves observation, hypothesis,
proof, experiment etc. Religion is about blind assumption (faith), and,
to a mind tempered by science, ANY kind of blind faith is inherently
dangerous.
"Iraq comes out of the oven smelling like pie"
HA HA HA! That is the most laughable thing I have ever heard
in my entire life! Now who nees to check his facts, Mr Mad Mullah? It
seems you don't watch the news much. The only thing that Iraq will
smell like when it comes out of the oven is oil-free meat.
The Americans will suck that country so dry the Sahara will look like
an oasis by comparison. You have created a convenient 72-virgin fantasy
world that is in complete contradiction to reality. Everyday Iraqis die
by the thousands, and the only significant losses the Americans have
faced so far are a few rednecks (whom they don't care about anyway) and
thousands of 'Iraqi security officers' (whom they care about a lot less
than they do the rednecks, being nothing more than cannon-fodder in
this little war).
"the entire nation of Islam is stupid and evil"
Stupid, definitely. Evil? That is one of your religious
terms, and Iabhor all religions. Only scripture-thumping
retards believe in absolute good or evil. They are, however
hatemongering fanatics and are extremely dangerous to the civilized
world, of which I am a part. Thus, it is in my best long-term interest
to see Islam die, followed by Christianity and eventually the other
religions (in that order).
"When is the last time you checked the facts on any of the so-called
research that guides you in life"
My people have had the misfortune of dealing
withmuslims for 900 years. Unlike the west, we are not
blinded by ignorance. We have been sufficiently harassed and
persecuted by these people and their maniacal idealogy to know who
they are and what they stand for, and we know that , unless they are
stopped by military action, they will kill us all, or force us back
into the middle ages.
"You're wrong about that. Iranians are highly educated, better than
many
european countries. "
Oh, sure. That's why they have a medeival economy, with a few
stinking rich religious clerics and the rest dirt-poor. Not to mention
a government of nut jobs and fanatics with nuclear bombs determined to
destroy the civilized world, or convert them to Islam at gunpoint,
which is worse. They have either driven out or slaughtered most Jews
and Zoroastrians in their country, and actively support terrorist
groups like al-Quaeda, the JKLF, the Lashkar-e-Taiba and many others
and direct their operations all around the world. These 'educated'
people treat women like cattle, and force them to wear hijabs or stone
them to death.
They were the first to invent the fictitious concept of the
"Aryan Race" and have used it to spread racial and sectarian hatred
throughout the world.
They were also among the first countries to officially
endorseHolocaust-denial.
When Neil Armstrong landed on the moon in 1969, Muslim clerics all over the world (not just a few) cried out 'heresy' and yelled " The moon landing is fake and a Jewish conspiracy meant to defame Islam" (because Allah is like a moon god, or something)
Right, 'educated'. I believe you!
Whatever merits Arabic and Persian culture once had, they have long
since disappeared in a blaze of religious mania and feudal greed. These
societies have regressed into the middle ages to the point that they
pose an imminent threat to all thinking people.
"Check your facts, I think you are underestimating
Iranians."
No I am not. I never underestimate the enemies of
civilization. That is the sure way to be a lifelong prisoner in a
masjid.
"You can't target a religion"
Sure I can, as can any rationalperson who's
thinking is tempered by science. Religion is just a bunch of
superstitious nonsense invented by old men with beards to control and
opress people and incite them to hate other people of a different
culture. There is no exception whatsoever to this rule. Even buddhists,
who claim to be nonviolent, will cheerfully resort to murder if it
serves their interests, as they have done in Sri Lanka.
"What you totally fail to recognize is that it is the actions of a few
people"
No, it's not. Over the last few centuries,Arabs and Persians
havedeveloped a
military-industrial complex designed to spread islam through war,
slavery and genocide. That is not the actions of a few men, but the
deranged mania of an entire people. Although admittedly, it is a few
people who are controlling it all. But they are so closely linked with
the religions themselves that the only way to defeat them is to end the
religions themselves.
"Declaring war on their religion is some fucked up shit"
Ordinarily, that would actually be true. There is no place
for ANY religion in rational society, and they will eventually
disappear from our lives over the next few generations, as scientific
temper influences the daily lives of people more and more. There should, ideally, be no need to 'declare war', literally or metaphorically, on a religion that is dying out. However,
Islam and Christianity are unique, in the sense that they have too many
followers, every single one of whom is a potential crusader and killer.
That's the power of Christian/Islamic mania, and a proactive effort is
required to finish them off before they damage civilized society past
the point of no return.
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"I just gave up and started rolling on the floor in spasms of uncontrollable laughter'
Interesting that you chose to report this amusement as an AC.
It doesn't matter. The opinions of defamers such as yourself are no longer considered canon by thinking people. Simply because real history does not agree with the ideology of "Aryan Supremacy" does not make it a ranting falsehood
"Overrated. India was indeed advanced and had cities before Egypt (the primordial source of Minoan, hence Greek, hence Western civilization and culture), but they were stalled by the time the Greek civilization (the first great Western civilization) came to be and never got back on their feet. China's primordial history is mostly folktales and legend, unsubstanciated by arqueology. You can only say China was more advanced technologically from around the time of the Warring States period to the Mongol invasion."
I'm not even going to dignify such blatant racial defamation with a response. White people have continually perpetrated falsehoods with the malicious intent of defaming Indian Culture. Max Mueller, Rudyard Kipling, you name it. We know the truth, and the fiction of the so-called 'Greek Miracle', and they can no longer brainwash us with their nonsense.
"You conveniently forgot the Byzantine Empire and the Republic of Venice, which were doing just fine at that time."
Doing what? Spreading Christianty like a virus? Makes me vomit just thinking about it.
"Most of it is self-inflicted. "
More racial defamation perpetrated by White Nordic Christians. What now, are you going to say that African people enslaved themselves? That the holocaust was a lie? I can almost hear the Waffen Shultzstaffen shooting in the background when I encounter such comments.
"What a lot of bull. Why is it that people always try to pin the blame for their own problems on someone else? "
Because, in this case, it is true.
"What makes you think that the Japanese would have left it there? There is no proof they did, quite the opposite."
Only briefly. That was a transient event. It was not a crime against humanity, but a crime against humans. That is different from the holocaust, which was the attempted murder of an entire culture. That was a crime against humanity, because, as a species, we can't afford to lose cultures. As heartless as this may sound, we can afford to lose a few million people. People die everywhere for many reasons, and humans kill other humans all the time. It is the cannibal part of our brains andwe can't pretend it doesn't exist.
We can't afford to lose an entire civilization, their knowledge, and their contribution to human evolution (we would have lost all Jewish contributions to human evolution if the Nazis had had their way). We would not lose China's contributions to humanity even if Japan had taken China under her wing.
What pisses me off about this whole 'bash Japan' business is that it is basically the Eastern version of anti-semetism (Anti-Nipponism, if you prefer).
Yes, it's true. They have done many bad things. But so has every other country at some time. They haven't done anything abnormal or inhuman. Killing humans is part of human nature (eradicating an entire civilization from reality and history itself is not, it's abnormal and inhuman). Even the Israeli Government has killed people they shouldn't have, but so have we, and so has every country and every regime.
What the anti-semites in the West and Middle-East do is that they take these things that are true, and say (or imply) from them that Jews and Israel are especially or uniquely bad in some intangible way. This is called cultural defamation, and is a malicious attempt made by anti-semites to foster hatred for Israel and Jews in Israel and other parts of the world. This is unacceptable in an enlightened world.
What the posts above do is basically the same thing to Japan. They point out some bad things they did and imply that the Japanese are uniquely or especially bad, and a thinking person would see that this is just like anti-semetism.
I'm sure that the inhabitants of Jallianwalla Bagh would. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwalla_bagh As would the folks at Meerut, Kanpur, and Delhi in the 19th Century http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_rebellion_of_1 857
So would Subhash Chandra Bose
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhash_Chandra_Bose
"Your source for that would be what? Your ass?"
No, it's based on an understanding of history that is not tainted by narrow parochialism or bywestern propaganda, and the anecdotal evidence I mentioned in my last post.
Why are you biting my head off anyway? I am not your enemy. I have no particular malice against you.
Nor do I favor my country in this matter. Bear in mind that India and the People's Republic went through a rather nasty border war, which we lost rather badly due to superior tactics and strategy on the part of the Chinese army. I am prepared to look above such petty and stupid disputes to realize that the People's Republic is more useful as an ally thanan enemy.
"Of course they were. And the Nazis were just liberating Ukraine from the Bolsheviks."
Not an analogous situation. Instead of attacking me personally, why don't you listen to what I have to say?
See here, the so called Third Reich was not just killing people. They had a detailed plan for the eradication ofentire civilizations. More than that, they planned to burn all records produced by them, destroy their art, poetry, literature, buildings, cities, and everything. They would have eradicated entire cultures from history. Had they succeeded, we would not even know that these people had existed in the past. The resultant damage to humanity as a species would be incalculable. Imagine a world without Einstein, Schroedinger, Heisenberg, Gibbs, Feynman and others. Would you want to live in a world without their achievements? Would you want to live in a world that did not know Quantum Theory as we do today, and, consequently did not know how to make superconductors, semiconductor chips, lasers etc? Would you want to live in a world where we could not learn about Jewish history, and read Hebrew and Yiddish poetry, or understand Jewish philosophy, or whatever?
That would be unthinkable to me, and I'm not even Jewish.
However, the Japanese had no such plan to eradicate Chinese culture. They killed individual people as a means to control political resistance. That is a bad thing, but humans kill other humans. That is part of our nature as a species. It will always happen, and denying that is unproductive.
What the Japanese did not do (nor did they ever intend to do) was depopulate China. They did not have a "Final solution to the Chinese question". They were never interested in eradicating China from history. Believe me, if the British thought that China was a threat to them, they would have tried to do so. They have tried to do it elsewhere.
"He was comparing Christianity of the past with todays Christianity. Which in case you haven't noticed is different to the past of burnings and inquisitions."
That only means that the scope has reduced, but the ideology is still there.
"Which is evident enough in your post where you link to two of the same news articles and the rest are fringe lunatics. "
Fringe lunatics? FRINGE LUNATICS???!?
Sure, and the Taleban are just a bunch of rowdy college kids!
Give me a break.
"Are those news articles representative of the entire Christian community in today's U.S?"
Yes, because Christian doctrine itself is inherently intolerant.
So is Islamic doctrine, in caseanybody accuses me of defaming christians in favor of those nutjobs.
"Actually, I think they deserved it because I'm chinese"
OK, I deserved that for thinking you to be white, and I'm sorry. I know that Japan did many questionable things in China (and don't forget Korea, Sumatra, Singapore, and many other places).
I am also an Asian person. I believe that the natural resources of our continent, together with the labour of our people, should be utilized by the people of Asia, and not stolen and raped byalien powers. I believe in the idea of Asian solidarity, even if it is at the cost of some human lives (as ghoulish as it sounds, it is also the truth).
Therefore it is my considered opinion that, in the long run, Japanese rule would have been beneficial to Asia, and a realization of theidea of Asian solidarity. I think that your perspective is slightly tainted by the long standing blood feud that exists between Japan and China. I can understand that, since such things have happened everywhere in the world (English--French, Germany--Russia, Uganda--C.A.R , Israel--Palestine, India--Pakistan etc.).
Bear in mind that most of the atrocities you mention were committed by the Japanese military, and was the result of a military junta. I believe that, had Japan been victorious in WW-II, the millitary would have been disbanded eventually, and the territories annexed by Japan would come under civilian government control. I think that, if you look at this hypothetical situation in an objective fashion,you will be hard-pressed to deny that that a modern civilian government of an Asian country would not engage in random acts of genocide against their own people (Asians).
This would not have happened under European/American dominance. Bear in mind that China and India were the most enlightened and advanced civilizations in the old world until the western powers came. Our standard of living was considerably higher in the first millenium of the Christian era than any country in Europe. We were building empires and writing philosophy when they were burning witches and fighting absurd religious crusades. All this is verifable truth. Ask yourself then, why is it that Asian countries suffer from such abjectpoverty today?
The answer to this question is complex, and many factors contribute, but the one that stands out above all else in relative priority is the Caucasian horde. It is the white man that is primarily responsible, by strip-mining our lands, stealing our crops, defaming our culture and heritage, raping our women, spreading their savage religion among us like a disease and generally imposing regimes based on brigandage and horror. If you contrast the atrocities committed by the British, Germans,French, and Americans in Asia over the period of 300 years versus the people killed by the Japanese over a few years, you will see that what the Japanese have done is very little in comparison to the systematic organized persecution by the white man.
Also, as further anecdotal evidence to vilify the Europeans and negate the libelous exaggerations of the west made against Japan, a friend of oneof my Grand uncles was (in a sense), a part of the Japanese Army (he was a Subhedar in the AHF). I have listened to many of his experiences with the Japanese (and those of other AHF soldiers). The Japanese treated AHF soldiers with far more courtesy and respect than the British did, and were genuinely interested in freeing our countryby military action from the severe tyranny of the British. Even Bose himself recieved plenty of cooperation from Japan wrt weaponry, military supplies, and tactical and strategic assistance.
So it might be a good thing for you to look at this situation from a broader perspective, and not ignore the greater idealogy of Asian solidarity in the face of petty grievances.
"I think Japan deserved it"
That is the prevalent idealogy of Nordic Christianity. Anyone who dares to challenge your innate belief in the racial superiority of the "Aryan Race" (as Japan did) deserves to be murdered en-masse and demonized. Your ignorant and hatemongering statements will only be believed by other Nordic Christians, not by thinking people who have actually studied real history. They know that Japan was the only Asian country to have challenged the white lords. In order to do that, they had to be a bit nasty sometimes, but that behavior was motivated by pragmaticism and a long-term view of achieving Asian solidarity and freedom from being killed by white people. In the final analysis, Japan cared (and still cares) more about the future prosperity of Asia than any European/American. Better an Asian country be ruled by fellow Asian people than by a bunch of tyrranical, arbitrary and murderous thugs that Europeans and Americans were and still are.
"the U.S. population has a pretty open Christian community that respects a lot of views."
Like this?
and this?
and this?
and this?
and this?
and this?
Please, save your propaganda for people who are retarded enough to buy it.
Install mozplugger and timidity++ on Linux, then delete your user pluginreg.dat in ~/.mozilla/firefox and restart browser & it should work (did for me).
The noun 'flaw' (specifically) was misused here, I agree. However, the original poster to whom I replied made the implication that verbing nouns (any noun) is incorrect. That is not true. If he had said "Please do not verb THIS noun", it would've been ok.
Now who's the moron I wonder?
Also has exposed the hypocrisy of american politics. When the tsunami hit South/Southeast Asia a few months ago, and relief efforts were under way, Americans resorted to libelous accusations of ethnic discrimination regarding the refugees. Now, with Katrina, and the deplorable and inhuman disregard and neglect with which the whites in America have treated the African Americans trapped inside NO, their dirty laundry is finally coming out.
Well. I guess that's good. KDE on Linux does do part of this transparent encryption stuff though (not fully, only with some data) with KDE wallet manager. It's 'transparent' because it can be accessed using KDE's dcop interprocess communication thingie from ny running KDE application (including the clipboard and stuff). It remains to see if KDE people will extend that functionality further or not.
"To continue your pedantic bent, flaw is a noun. Please do not verb nouns. Thank you"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerund
"What do you mean with the word shaheb?"
Shaheb. Also spelled 'sahib', or 'sahab', shahib.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahib
"Who the fuck are "my buddies" who think all Hindus are potheads?"
I was speaking figuratively. However, bear in mind that racism and anti-semetism has risen by 17% in the western world this year. That means that, out of a random sample of westernpeople, at least 17% are racists and/or anti-semites.Assuming that you are a normal westerner, it is likely that you have at least one acquaintance who holds racist attitudes towards Hindus, just as they hold racist/communal attitudes towards Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, Eastasians, Eskimos, Martians or anybody not of their ilk.
"Wow, my opinion of you just did a 180"
OOOOOO. A shaheb thinks me so bad person. What should I do? Repent for my transgression by picking tea leaves and breaking rocks while you whip me? I do not give a flying fuck, sir. Why is it that some of you western follk make such romantic and grandiose declarations that involve a whole lot of arrogant presumption as though people care what you think and the observable cosmos revolves around your mind? Is this a Freudian sex-thing?
I was trying to educate and enlighten those that are believed by many to be inherently uneducable. I believe that such claims are wrong. You really should be less confrontational.
"I know must English scholars"
GERMANS! GERMANS! DON'T FORGET THE GERMANS! They were as bad.
"You totally come off in this post as a stupid racist prick (exactly what you accuse others of)."
and your reacionary and knee-jerk reactions after reading my posts instead of understanding them shows you to be simply a prick. Where do you get off trying to lambaste me for saying the truth?
"The encryption is transparent to applications. "
Ok, so it's still only about front-ends and some kind of on-the-fly decryption strategy.The data itself is encrypted in the same or similar way as it would with PGP, right?
"Encrypted files look and work just like regular unencrypted files, as long as you're logged in as the correct user. "
So can't somebody spoof a particular user's authentication informationin windoze? I read somewhere that it can be done in windoze w/out knowing passwords. Isn't it safer to encrypt important data using keys that are generated in a way that is independent of any of the OS's native authentication modules?
"They're encrypted with a key that is itself encrypted with your password"
That's true for PGP also.
It seems to me that the only differences are in front ends and stuff. The actual encryption processseems to me (based on my understanding of what you said) the same as (or similar to) PGP.
I'm confused, enlighten me.
If I encrypted a folder in windoze using windoze explorer, will I be able to read the file using some third party file manager software that is not developed by microsoft or uses any of their SDK's or whatever?
I'm not that widely read on encryption, but isn't the purpose of encryption to uh, encrypt information to look like garbage that you have to uh, decrypt using some sort of passphrase or key-pair and one of those, uh encryption algorithms, or something? Whatever I read on googling 'transparent encryption' seems rather vague and nebulous and seems just like regular encryption with a database backend and/or a nice ui. If you have any links specific to this 'transparent encryption' thing, please post them.
In Linux, run a standard installation of KDE. navigate to any file/directory using konqueror, then right click and goto the 'actions' context menu entry, and click on "encrypt & archive file/folder'. It does so using kgpg, KDE's frontend to gpg. You can use a passphrase to encrypt it if you want. That's pretty easy, and can't be crached ab initio by trojans or anything. So why do I have to use windoze?
"Hare Krishna version of Hinduism"
Yes, that is a VERSION of the religion (and not a very popular one anymore). You might want to tell that to your buddies who think all hindus are potheads or whatever, and the fact that fanatical sects of christianity like the Jehovah's Witneesses and the Mormons have gone to far greater extremes of delusional fantasy than any in the hindu religion.
"I learned a lot good and bad about the country"
Yeah, we're pretty normal that way, to the great dismay of many westerners who believed all Indians to be either 'beggars' (Dominique Lapierre), 'bastards' (Richard Nixon), or 'half-child-half-devil' (Rudyard Kipling). Most western scholars who ever tried to 'study Indian culture' in the past did so with explicit intent of bolstering their own idealogy of White supremacy, such as the 'indologist' Max Mueller or the confirmed racist and anti-semite Rudyard Kipling, or many Christian Republicans todaymost of whom are illiterate losers who lost their jobs to outsourcing and are desperately looking for something about India that they can use for their nefarious purpose of racial defamation, like they have been doing with the Jewish folk in their own countries for many centuries. This is why modern Indian scholars and even regular people have a hard time taking any foreign 'Indian studies' seriously. The truth is that our country has people of many different idealogies, from religious right wingers, Islamic zealots/antisemites, fascist sympathizers and caste extremists (on both ends) to marxists,pacifists, secular humanists, supporters of Israel and the non-aligned. These are the checks and balances that form a democratic society, something which many Americans seem to have forgotten in their massive wave of religious christian prosetylization. Over all, the more enlightned views dominate, though.
That is one aspect of it, yes.
The word "Aryan" in Sanskrit actually means, "the noble one". It was used in Vedic/Pauranic societyprimarily as an honorific to describe people believed to be of 'noble blood' or 'noble caste'. As anachronistic as it may be, it was harmless, and not intended to promote malice or hatred towards anybody.
What you may not know is that the concept of the 'Aryan Race' as a separate ethnicity from the Caucasus region is a complete fabrication.
It was first used as a racial/religious ideology by Avestan-Persian people (they eventually named their country after it "Iran<=>Aryan") to claim that those "western people" that followed "Aryan Law" were inherently superior to "eastern people" who followed "Pagan Law" (ie Hindus) and those "Semetic" people who "deliberately" followed a "false god" (ie People of Judaic culture).
They used this as a partial justification to conquer and opress people in their Satrapies in the Indian subcontinent (In the words of Darius III: "I am an Aryan, of Aryan blood and Aryan Heritage, I am thus great etc etc", Explains something why he got his bum kicked by the Macedonians later on).
During the Islamic empires in India, Muslims believed themselves to be of "Persian descent" (partially true) who were merely "exiles" in India and somehow were "racially distinct" from "brown hindus" and so destined by "Islamic Law" to rule over hindus and "try" to "enlighten" them on "Aryan Ways", by resorting to poll taxes, rampant brigandage and attempted genocide and what not.
Eventually, the crude and unrefined "Aryan Race" idealogy was picked up by the British and a few Germannic scholars in India and organized in writing into the so called "Aryan Invasion theory", the idea that there were actually these "ubermenschen" people who came from the Caucasus region and they
invaded the 'lesser' 'untermenschen' and "restored" the "natural order" as decreed by "God". During the 19th century, the "Aryan Race" fiction became very fashionable among evangelical Christians in Britain and France, and hoax books like "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" were written in an attempt to accomodate that idealogy with the idealogy that there are these "semetic" people who are somehow "different" from "Aryan people" in order to ferment long-standing antisemetic hatred against people of Judaic cultures who were spread out in European and Middle-Eastern countries.
One of the first people to refine this falsehood in an articulate way so as to make it convincing to Europeans was Rudyard Kipling, together with the "Nordic/Germannic greatness" idealogy propagated by people like Wagner & Nietzche in Germany.
Before the rise of the so-called "third reich" in germany, Adolf Hitler came across some old literature about all this and realized how this concept of "Aryan Supremacy" can be used to galvanize poor white Christians in Germany against Jewish people who the Christians have traditionally scapegoated for all the problems and ills in their lives, and organize a National German Socialist Party
of street-thugs and other generally unsavory elements of Germannic countries into positions of power by sheer force of the mob. This is how the Nazi Party was born.
Interestingly, the Indian struggle for independence was well under way at this time, and most hindus were rather severely offended at German people for using Sanskrit words and Vedic Art to propagate their screwed up beliefs. Jawaharlal Nehru had openly and actively criticized the Reich (was among the first people to do so). Hitler had invited Nehru to visit Germany together with a British delegation so as to try to convince him that Nazis were not the bad guys and that the Reich was doing a lot of good in Germany, with technological progress, economic improvements, greater industries etc etc. Nehru went to Berlin and toured Germany and surrounding areas controlled by them, and there was some mention in his writings about vis
The sad thing is to see people like you resorting to ad-hominems when you can't get your point across in an intelligently. You attack intelligence itelf by cloaking yourself in some sort of religious frenzy and believe that you can convert people into your idealogy. Well, it may have worked when you had armies on your side and an infrastructure based on slavery and oppression, but it doesn't work anymore. Even if you put one of your redneck guns to my head, or nail me to a cross and burn me alive as you do, you will only convince yourself, not me, because I know the greater truth which is based on observation and fact, not on words written by people I don't know and who haven't supported them with data.
The part that's dangerous is the 'new religious mania', where the fanatics use what apparently seems 'enlightened'
Here are some links for YOU to meet people who do what you do:
http://home.ddc.net/ygg/welcome.htm
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=
http://www.agentofchaos.invisionzone.com/index.ph
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http://www.agentofchaos.invisionzone.com/index.ph
All based on arguments that seem reasonable and, to the superficial eye, based on fact. However, a truly thinking mind realizes them for the hate propaganda they are.
These folks can expose you better than I can:
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/Christian_Identit
---Einstein
and it was you rednecks that said 'God created Einstein, not the other way round.' It was the antisemetism inherent in christians that led you to hate him and other thinkerslike him in the western world for revolutionizing our entire outlook on the universe, just like you denied Darwinian Theory (and still do).
"Sell your car man, start riding your bike to work. "
You will realize the truth is when you choke to death on Carbon Mono-oxide and what not.
"Dont turn on the AC. I read the other day about how sugar is bad for you."
Yeah, and we "invented" evolution, and that still pisses you Christians off doesn't it?
Yes, sugar IS bad for you. That is because it has short-chain carbohydrates that are burned off as raw heat in the Krebs Tricarboxylic Acid cycle quickly and ineffieciently and less is converted to chemical energy required for muscles/bodily functions etc.
This is nothing new, thinking people have known it for a long time. I can't help it if you are such a slave to your own slovenly corporeal pleasures that you are unwilling to see the truth by checking the facts.
"Listen to yourself, prophetic madman. Iraqi's don't die by the thousands at the hands of Americans soldiers or terrorists, perhaps of natural causes. You're very fond of the hyperbole I can tell."
It's not hyperbole, it's a fact.
Iraqi constitution? A joke. A meaningless scrap of paper that says nothing and does nothing. Citizens voting? Who cares? They'll still lose all their oil and be reduced to beggars. 'Freedom' is pointless without wealth and prosperity, which they will never have as long as Uncle Sam wants his oil fix. Al Sadr army fighting insurgents? Yeah, right. All the while conspiring to kill you behing your back.
"You are French, aren't you?"
No monseiur. Do you even read? Were the French persecuted by muslims for 900 years? If you were unable to deduce my nationality by now, you justify the term 'redneck' that you used to implicitly describe yourself.
"So is this what the religion of science is teaching these days? Destroy the otherreligions because they're evil?"
Science is not a religion. Only an ignorant person would say such a thing. Science is the very antithesis of religion. Science is based on the scientific method, which involves observation, hypothesis, proof, experiment etc. Religion is about blind assumption (faith), and, to a mind tempered by science, ANY kind of blind faith is inherently dangerous.
"Iraq comes out of the oven smelling like pie"
HA HA HA! That is the most laughable thing I have ever heard in my entire life! Now who nees to check his facts, Mr Mad Mullah? It seems you don't watch the news much. The only thing that Iraq will smell like when it comes out of the oven is oil-free meat. The Americans will suck that country so dry the Sahara will look like an oasis by comparison. You have created a convenient 72-virgin fantasy world that is in complete contradiction to reality. Everyday Iraqis die by the thousands, and the only significant losses the Americans have faced so far are a few rednecks (whom they don't care about anyway) and thousands of 'Iraqi security officers' (whom they care about a lot less than they do the rednecks, being nothing more than cannon-fodder in this little war).
"the entire nation of Islam is stupid and evil"
Stupid, definitely. Evil? That is one of your religious terms, and Iabhor all religions. Only scripture-thumping retards believe in absolute good or evil. They are, however hatemongering fanatics and are extremely dangerous to the civilized world, of which I am a part. Thus, it is in my best long-term interest to see Islam die, followed by Christianity and eventually the other religions (in that order).
"When is the last time you checked the facts on any of the so-called research that guides you in life"
My people have had the misfortune of dealing withmuslims for 900 years. Unlike the west, we are not blinded by ignorance. We have been sufficiently harassed and persecuted by these people and their maniacal idealogy to know who they are and what they stand for, and we know that , unless they are stopped by military action, they will kill us all, or force us back into the middle ages.
Whatever happened to fullerene? Wasn't that harder than diamond too???
"You're wrong about that. Iranians are highly educated, better than many european countries. "
Oh, sure. That's why they have a medeival economy, with a few stinking rich religious clerics and the rest dirt-poor. Not to mention a government of nut jobs and fanatics with nuclear bombs determined to destroy the civilized world, or convert them to Islam at gunpoint, which is worse. They have either driven out or slaughtered most Jews and Zoroastrians in their country, and actively support terrorist groups like al-Quaeda, the JKLF, the Lashkar-e-Taiba and many others and direct their operations all around the world. These 'educated' people treat women like cattle, and force them to wear hijabs or stone them to death.
They were the first to invent the fictitious concept of the "Aryan Race" and have used it to spread racial and sectarian hatred throughout the world.
They were also among the first countries to officially endorseHolocaust-denial.
When Neil Armstrong landed on the moon in 1969, Muslim clerics all over the world (not just a few) cried out 'heresy' and yelled " The moon landing is fake and a Jewish conspiracy meant to defame Islam" (because Allah is like a moon god, or something) Right, 'educated'. I believe you!
Whatever merits Arabic and Persian culture once had, they have long since disappeared in a blaze of religious mania and feudal greed. These societies have regressed into the middle ages to the point that they pose an imminent threat to all thinking people.
"Check your facts, I think you are underestimating Iranians."
No I am not. I never underestimate the enemies of civilization. That is the sure way to be a lifelong prisoner in a masjid.
"You can't target a religion"
Sure I can, as can any rationalperson who's thinking is tempered by science. Religion is just a bunch of superstitious nonsense invented by old men with beards to control and opress people and incite them to hate other people of a different culture. There is no exception whatsoever to this rule. Even buddhists, who claim to be nonviolent, will cheerfully resort to murder if it serves their interests, as they have done in Sri Lanka.
"What you totally fail to recognize is that it is the actions of a few people"
No, it's not. Over the last few centuries,Arabs and Persians havedeveloped a military-industrial complex designed to spread islam through war, slavery and genocide. That is not the actions of a few men, but the deranged mania of an entire people. Although admittedly, it is a few people who are controlling it all. But they are so closely linked with the religions themselves that the only way to defeat them is to end the religions themselves.
"Declaring war on their religion is some fucked up shit"
Ordinarily, that would actually be true. There is no place for ANY religion in rational society, and they will eventually disappear from our lives over the next few generations, as scientific temper influences the daily lives of people more and more. There should, ideally, be no need to 'declare war', literally or metaphorically, on a religion that is dying out. However, Islam and Christianity are unique, in the sense that they have too many followers, every single one of whom is a potential crusader and killer. That's the power of Christian/Islamic mania, and a proactive effort is required to finish them off before they damage civilized society past the point of no return.