Ok, I like the sound of a massive multiplayer experience, that would have made the game better. But was that in existance at all, or was it just an idea. Did Halo 1 alpha have that capability? or was it just a cool idea. If it was only an idea, I would say that you can't take it into consideration when making the statement "Halo 1 alpha is better then Halo CE".
Thanks for your input admdrew, your insight is helpful. But Kenja started this thread by making the claim "Still not as good as Halo 1 alpha". I was curious if he/she was making this statement off of first hand experience with Halo 1 alpha, seeing a video clip, or reading some of the preposed ideas out of early bungie.
I can see it now. One mannequin dressed in battle fatigues waved in front of this robo sentry until it runs dry of ammo = $200,000 conversation piece. Maybe we can load Linux onto this thing and program it to vacuum the floor?
Qualifier: I work for a company that has dealings with Novell. However, I'm near the bottom, so it's not like Novell going completely under would kill me or anything. My company could eventually migrate away from SuSe Linux without "too" much pain.
Now, that being said, let me get to the point (and please don't mod this as flame bait because I'm just trying to give my honest opinion.
I'm excited about this Novell/M$ deal. I'm excited about it because it will allow IT departments to give their end users the M$ applications (most office drones do like them) they want. Now, lets get down to this lawsuit business. Hypothetically, lets pretend M$ decides to sue a company for coupleing their applications with a non-Suse distro if Linux. They could manage to squeeze all the money from their bank account (sorry guys/coal mine canaries). This however would never go unnoticed by the business world. It would trigger every company running M$ applications on a non-SuSe back ends to dump their M$ applications an revert to their old OSS applications (if they're running Linux backend, they probably ran a Linux front end at one time). This would be a painful switch, but not the end of the world for them.
M$ is trying to get the Linux community to adopt their applications. We're obviously not going to touch their OS. The money they get from that first lawsuit would never equil the revenue they receive from the expanding Linux community using their applications. It would be very "penny-wise pound-foolish" to choose the money from that one lawsuit over continued revenue in application sales (and it would not take more then one or two of these lawsuits to scare every IT department away from M$ applications forever).
So, here's to a brand new day. Lets drink to not being the first company eaten by the M$ wolf.
"I don't have to outrun the troll, I just have to outrun you"
I'm sorry, I don't think it would work out the way you think. Whether IT uses SuSe Linux or any other distro, their end users like M$ products. End users don't care if the back end is SuSe, Red Hat, or any other distro. What they don't see (the back end) their not concerned about.
Hypothetically, If M$ then sues that company for not coupleing their M$ applications with a SuSe back end, they might be able squeeze every cent out of their bank account. However, that would never go unoticed by the rest of the business world. M$ suing a company for integrating their Apps with Linux would yield small gains compaired to allowing the entire Linux community to use/buy their apps. We're obviously not going to touch their OS, enabling us to use their apps is only damage control. Choosing the winnings of one court case agenst an offending IT department would be "penny-wise pound-foolish" in comparison to the revenue from selling M$ apps to the Linux community...MHO
I'm still not sure why people are scared about this Novell/M$ deal. I'm a nub to the Linux (SuSe) community and I'm excited about this deal. A lot of end users like M$ products and this will make it easier for IT to give them what they want from a Linux back end. If M$ then sues said IT for using compatibality software to allow MS/Linux integration, said IT will then just return to previously used Open Source solutions/applications. M$ would be shooting theselves in the foot by said lawsuit and only causing a slight burdon to the IT community. I haven't quite "connected the dots" in how M$ will then own the SuSe version of Linux, or any other distro. Help me to understand why I should be scared of this deal.
Thanks
I've been playing games since Atari, Coleco, and NES. My brother had a 3do, and I mostly skipped over later Nintendo and Sony PS for PC Games. Halo MADE me get an XBOX because it was one of the first console games that captured the freedom/substance of PC FPS. Halo 3 is probably the only game I'm looking forward to in this latest generation because of it's history. Other games/consoles are good, but Halo CE was very groundbreaking for the console gaming industry. While there are of course better games today, Halo CE did bring something to the console market that wasn't there before. Compairing it to modern day equivilents is unfair....MHO
He didn't find anything because nothing exists. Carl Sagan once said that by his estimate, the knowledge of alien life would most likely be a secret for all of two hours upon discovery (...or was it Issac Azimov).
I was in the Navy for six years. There are no secret alien files being held on servers. The Government and our nations military are made up of the same everyday shmoes as you and me. They've all worked in malls or mc'donalds at one time, played video games, and are TOTALLY INCAPEABLE of keeping a secret of this magnatude for 60+ YEARS... trust me!
Who/What was your employer, division, position? I'm looking for work myself.
I didn't accept an offer after three months of interviews because the employer "forgot" my salary requirements. It was quite frustrating, and I'm still looking for a job.
After Porn and Sex, High School Students are interested in anything that will save them money, potentially make them money, get them laid, or make their High School Career easier. Translation = File Sharing, Music Downloads, Programming, Websites, Networking, Security,..., They're much more realistic that you might realize.
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Ok, I like the sound of a massive multiplayer experience, that would have made the game better. But was that in existance at all, or was it just an idea. Did Halo 1 alpha have that capability? or was it just a cool idea. If it was only an idea, I would say that you can't take it into consideration when making the statement "Halo 1 alpha is better then Halo CE". Thanks for your input admdrew, your insight is helpful. But Kenja started this thread by making the claim "Still not as good as Halo 1 alpha". I was curious if he/she was making this statement off of first hand experience with Halo 1 alpha, seeing a video clip, or reading some of the preposed ideas out of early bungie.
You still haven't answered my other question. What was better about Halo 1 alpha then Halo CE?
What about the 2nd question? WHat about it was better then Halo CE?
Where did you see Halo 1 alpha? And what about it was better then Halo CE?
I can see it now. One mannequin dressed in battle fatigues waved in front of this robo sentry until it runs dry of ammo = $200,000 conversation piece. Maybe we can load Linux onto this thing and program it to vacuum the floor?
Qualifier: I work for a company that has dealings with Novell. However, I'm near the bottom, so it's not like Novell going completely under would kill me or anything. My company could eventually migrate away from SuSe Linux without "too" much pain.
Now, that being said, let me get to the point (and please don't mod this as flame bait because I'm just trying to give my honest opinion.
I'm excited about this Novell/M$ deal. I'm excited about it because it will allow IT departments to give their end users the M$ applications (most office drones do like them) they want. Now, lets get down to this lawsuit business. Hypothetically, lets pretend M$ decides to sue a company for coupleing their applications with a non-Suse distro if Linux. They could manage to squeeze all the money from their bank account (sorry guys/coal mine canaries). This however would never go unnoticed by the business world. It would trigger every company running M$ applications on a non-SuSe back ends to dump their M$ applications an revert to their old OSS applications (if they're running Linux backend, they probably ran a Linux front end at one time). This would be a painful switch, but not the end of the world for them.
M$ is trying to get the Linux community to adopt their applications. We're obviously not going to touch their OS. The money they get from that first lawsuit would never equil the revenue they receive from the expanding Linux community using their applications. It would be very "penny-wise pound-foolish" to choose the money from that one lawsuit over continued revenue in application sales (and it would not take more then one or two of these lawsuits to scare every IT department away from M$ applications forever).
So, here's to a brand new day. Lets drink to not being the first company eaten by the M$ wolf.
"I don't have to outrun the troll, I just have to outrun you"
I'm sorry, I don't think it would work out the way you think. Whether IT uses SuSe Linux or any other distro, their end users like M$ products. End users don't care if the back end is SuSe, Red Hat, or any other distro. What they don't see (the back end) their not concerned about. Hypothetically, If M$ then sues that company for not coupleing their M$ applications with a SuSe back end, they might be able squeeze every cent out of their bank account. However, that would never go unoticed by the rest of the business world. M$ suing a company for integrating their Apps with Linux would yield small gains compaired to allowing the entire Linux community to use/buy their apps. We're obviously not going to touch their OS, enabling us to use their apps is only damage control. Choosing the winnings of one court case agenst an offending IT department would be "penny-wise pound-foolish" in comparison to the revenue from selling M$ apps to the Linux community. ..MHO
I'm still not sure why people are scared about this Novell/M$ deal. I'm a nub to the Linux (SuSe) community and I'm excited about this deal. A lot of end users like M$ products and this will make it easier for IT to give them what they want from a Linux back end. If M$ then sues said IT for using compatibality software to allow MS/Linux integration, said IT will then just return to previously used Open Source solutions/applications. M$ would be shooting theselves in the foot by said lawsuit and only causing a slight burdon to the IT community. I haven't quite "connected the dots" in how M$ will then own the SuSe version of Linux, or any other distro. Help me to understand why I should be scared of this deal. Thanks
I've been playing games since Atari, Coleco, and NES. My brother had a 3do, and I mostly skipped over later Nintendo and Sony PS for PC Games. Halo MADE me get an XBOX because it was one of the first console games that captured the freedom/substance of PC FPS. Halo 3 is probably the only game I'm looking forward to in this latest generation because of it's history. Other games/consoles are good, but Halo CE was very groundbreaking for the console gaming industry. While there are of course better games today, Halo CE did bring something to the console market that wasn't there before. Compairing it to modern day equivilents is unfair. ...MHO
He didn't find anything because nothing exists. Carl Sagan once said that by his estimate, the knowledge of alien life would most likely be a secret for all of two hours upon discovery (...or was it Issac Azimov).
I was in the Navy for six years. There are no secret alien files being held on servers. The Government and our nations military are made up of the same everyday shmoes as you and me. They've all worked in malls or mc'donalds at one time, played video games, and are TOTALLY INCAPEABLE of keeping a secret of this magnatude for 60+ YEARS... trust me!
Who/What was your employer, division, position? I'm looking for work myself. I didn't accept an offer after three months of interviews because the employer "forgot" my salary requirements. It was quite frustrating, and I'm still looking for a job.
After Porn and Sex, High School Students are interested in anything that will save them money, potentially make them money, get them laid, or make their High School Career easier. Translation = File Sharing, Music Downloads, Programming, Websites, Networking, Security,..., They're much more realistic that you might realize.