With a Board of Directors lineup that includes Repubmocrats like Algore, you're still surprised? If he is benchmark for the fools squandering enough money on Apple stock to have a say, well, brother, you got a ways to go. Politicians, used car dealers, six of one , half a dozen etc...
The industry knows what makes a geek. Outsiders, the rejected, who know they need special powers to make it in life, they grow brains. Gays fit the bill. Congrats, you got a crack at being a full fledged nerd because you aren't the prom king. You get to play in the tech industry to one up Mr. Popularity. Big money can still be the inherited riches of the prom king tho. Or Kings as a quorum,like a board of directors, who set policy, and do their will. Whoda figured Apple? Shit happens. Coulda been Chick-a-fillet, oops, I guess it was. Coulda been like a Rent-A-Center fiasco alll over again, well kinda. No surprises here.
So, someone took grant money,had too much time on their hands, and someone already took global warming, gun control,gay parenting and all the good ones. Gotta think of something obscure..., well what offends us....let's push our agenda and get PAID, Woohooo! I recognise the S word as nothing more than half verified homework assigned by lazy professors and bosses, to validate their questionable existence. Later some other lazy ass will give it a glance and call it peer reviewed. Big deal.
Apple is a company that decided their business structure and standards, long damn ago. If you haven't clued in from the very beginning, with 1 mouse button and no console, they think you are TOO DAMN STUPID to make choices for yourself. This has been reflected in their products, software and hardware from day one. So, no surprises here.
Since they assign themselves guardianship over their faithful devotees( the stupid of the world, by their vision) Apple wouldn't want that image to fall into the hand of some kid who might get the idea " hey , maybe I can talk Billy into putting mine in his mouth, that would feel neater than whackin' it myself" and then decide arbitrarily that it must mean he is gay and summarily embrace the lifestyle,erroneously. Nope, Apple is there to protect everyone from themselves, just like a Repubmocrat in Federal office. They know better than YOU, after all. Which is why they have such a huge following. There is a demographic of people out there, that don't like to think for themselves in real life, are willing to let others authoritate their will, and be parented in a strange Freudian sense, by others. ( This may also explain the last century of Repubmocrat tyranny, as well)
So what is all the surprise and silly noises about? This is not outside the historical scope of Apple.
Owned and operated by New Zealand for all the big stuff, but, Villages are entitled to enact their own laws regulating their daily lives and New Zealand law only applies where it has been extended by specific enactment. Serious crime is rare and there are no prisons - offenders are publicly rebuked, fined or made to work
So....I guess local government gets its dirty work done openly upon availability, Their overlords in NZ are too busy working for the MAFIAA to extend assets toward their charge . I suspect murderers will build the roads or scoop out the atoll or something. Pickpockets could collect taxes or something. I dunno use your imagination. 1400 people....NZ looking the other way...sounds like they could run naked in the streets with demon rum, marijuana and illegal downloads with no problems. No government.
" instead of the at least partly democratically accountable existing governments, no."
There are rumors of such entities, but I think the media started it. I don't think the Repubmocrat tyranny qualifies anyway, if that was your point. I don't think I'd hand the keys over to this generations weak ass Libertarians either.
But, governments DO act that way. Show me one government that; if it doesn't do it's dirty work openly, doesn't have a "secret" agency of some other advertised value, that handles it's hoodlum urges. Governments do as they please, because once in power, they find that those they are to serve are more valuable as an asset to their aspirations as a crop, or commodity , if you will, than a master of their industry. Governments who aren't SPECIFICALLY relegated to sundry maintenance of the peoples general interests and well being,and kept that way, grow corrupt and wild as Kudzu or Ragweed. It then takes bloody revolution to separate their desire for money and power from actual governance, like bombing a field with herbicide.
Wouldn't it be nice to just have a Worldwide Revolt Day and just turn the whole shithouse upside down, then begin again?
Read about the ones that are politically convenient to report on. This is the newsmedia we're talking about. By the time the story gets edited the cop was a hero for it much of the time.If the cops are in the dumper generally, then they can be attention grabbing headlines. If the media is half right, half the time, they're wrong most of the time. What's left over is spun to political or profit agenda, and sorted for competition of luridity. Failures are reported if it is profitable, whether it is failure or not. They have one fat liar, we have several, the one in charge can run a drone up your butt now. They have many guns on them to make them swallow the "official" truth, we are gullible enough to go along voluntarily. You can't tell me how damn much better off we are, it's just a culture shift and skewed math away from the next guys truth. It's all so Catch 22, I can hear Yossarian ranting this.
Well, let's check on this claim from my perspective. I've watched cops do some horrible shit when no one was looking , from beatings to confiscating money and items. You can't open the paper without some story of a crooked cop, on the take, murdering off the clock, raping a suspect, running over kids because they wanted to drive fast without lights on. Now the political circumstances are different , but the corruption is the same.I wouldn't suggest eye contact in a crowd, you'll look suspicious. I've seen 5 year olds used to steal goods from stores, I've seen a 10 year old sent out to beg for money for his dads meth habit. 8 and 13 year old girls pimped by their mother. No goats, but plenty of dog crap. All this just from the little city I live in, man, you must be from the burbs!
I can say what I want, but there's a much better chance of "homeland security", the FBI and Bob-knows-what other 3 letter agencies dropping it into a database for future purposes. Well, aside from the food shortages, due to THEIR governments manipulation of it, because we have endless charities trying to get it to them, things are pretty much the same. A population of people too unconfident in themselves to revolt and do things right. Man, you sound like a damn infomercial. Get you perspective from somewhere besides the T.V., your yippee professor or your peer group.
SImple fetching and carrying tasks? Let's replace the Federal Government with uncorruptable simple robots. Constituents concerns can be tablulated by computer to steer voting in the Congress and Senate. Office flunkies and staffers go without saying. Entire Agencies could go robotic. The White House has had Repubmocrat bots for around a century now, this could be replaced with a party neutral machine with much nicer latex skin than the past models have had.
I think my point was; it's an amazing history book for being about stone-bronze age people in spite of embellishment. Much of what is true/ partly true/ slightly true is verifiable by other sources. I see the whole Noah thing as someone smart enough to boat their personal livestock and the whole thing got blown out of proportion. Not much different from embellishment of modern day legends whose life was much different than advertised like Abe Lincoln. Abe was a lawyer who wrote and distributed a pamphlet denying the divinity of Christ, believed that physical differences would keep blacks from ever being equal to whites and proposed to Congress to settle the slave thing by shipping all the blacks to South America (rejected by Congress AND South American countries). But, we polish him up for the Children.
When a story doesn't jibe with reality, there are still missing elements. Here are some elements that make the WHOLE Bible, Apocrypha and Pseudepigraphica make MUCH more sense. http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/1996/05/01/Kaneh-Bosm-Cannabis-Old-Testament , but you can see it involve a shitstorm of controversy and politics. Not much truth in history, but what you can dig out of it. I think Voltaire said "History is a pack of lies that we play on the dead". Wisdom, as far as it will go.
Well, if you forget the pain-in-the-ass literal translationists and get over just-any-ol-thing to piss them off, relax and take a look at what it is. 1. First book of the Pentaeuch, the Talmud,the history of the Hebrew peoples. Possibly rewritten from memory by the prophet Ezra and attributed to Moishe (thats Moses before the Greeks misspelled it.) 2.These are the stories that were handed down in a verbal tradition from a people lacking written language for the period portrayed. Some embellishment is expected. 3. The Adam( Hebrew word for Man as in Mankind) and Eve story is someone remembering the oldest memorable person in the lineage and the story they were told. It amounts to the emergence of Man ( we will define it as the emergence of Man with developed introspection, which places it fairly accurately for a verbal tradition. Why would these people leave lovely lush Bablylonia at the fork of the Tigress and Euphrates? The story seeks to relate that to the listener who would be a Hebrew learning his history. 4 The "begets" and the impossible longevity problem. The odd thing is why this is such a mystery. Every one of those names represents a tribe or a place , not necessarily just an individual. So we can say that from Enoch to Methuselah these represent the loosely knit stone age tribes of the Hebrews. The ages give the longevity of the tribe or settlement. 5. Noahs Ark; we know there was a great flood in what is now Armenia, in the valley below the Ararat range (it was a range, not an individual mountain) Watermarks show HIGH water. This was their world, therefore the World was flooded. Remember this is how they explained their history to each other, lacking written language. Oddly, there is also another tradition that places Gilgamesh in the boat, rather than Noah, but that is someone else, another time.
This just scratches the surface of Genesis and the details it gives, there is much, much more. I recommend " Azimovs Guide to the Bible" as a good read to find more. Yes, it was written by Issac Azimov, from a Jewish/ secular perspective. He really is a great author and scholar outside of science fiction.
Well, lessee, I start a conversation with someone that culminates in their sharing their belief system. No one hid anything, people will talk about themselves, without end at least 3 minutes after their heart stops beating. This is where my info comes from, field samples from across the U.S.
For all I know your mis assertion comes from your special hurt little feelings. "the bad man doesn't understand me, so if I act all vague and menstrual, I can get some attention daddy never gave me.'Well, not being an atheist, I put it to you that you have no clue.' There, I said it now he will understand my pain and love me and hold me til it stops hurting"
This falls totally in line with the business philosophy that; if you aren't pissing someone off, you are accomplishing nothing. So I can take a spoonful of schadenfreude, that Christians proselytizing to Atheists is in fact evidence of a Karmic function in the universe. w00t!
In other words, you are good at interpreting the words of others to steer it around to your point. I am not equally, but also annoyed with Krsna Consciousness, Scientologist and Penticostal Christian prosylelitization. It's bad when any of you do it without an invite. Christians at least are a given in a country founded by Christians who list God given rights and put affirmation of their trust in a diety on their money. Your anger doesn't come from them so much as it comes from the same place as partying hard til you realize you wound up in the wrong place on the bad side of town. Your blame of confirmational bias could be analyzed for psychological amusements, but that would be unfair since you didn't read in other posts that I study religions and am in contact with many, much of the time, for a long time now. Now take that chip off your shoulder, you just look ridiculous.
O.K. this is the 4th true Scotsman link posted by novices of the Wikkian faith. It really makes the rest of it sound like Charlie Browns Teacher" Wahwahwahwha wahwah wha wa wawa wahwah." Some light blather about your little faith getting bruised and taking a couple pokes @ religion as a whole then end with ridiculous assertions about Christians in general.
Well buddy, it's always something, either daddy touched you too much or not enough. I feel for you man. I'm not here to defend either of you, I'm here to study you. If that's what's on your mind, maybe your mama can help. I dunno , try drinking.
I think much of it is curiosity that they can't quite communicate without "battling beliefs". I'm sure they are concerned for you, which is natural. Then they feel frustration with a feeling of your being beyond their help, they don't know how to handle this, they lash out at you in their pain. This is also natural, we are imperfect and this is demonstrated in the animal kingdom as well.
As anyone from a subculture will tell you, wave your freak flag high and be ready to take a few punches.No one promised you soft toilet tissue, you get the cob.
I wouldn't hold my breath about people leaving religions for any longer than I'd hold it for Johns Apocalypse. We are wired to defer to higher powers. We developed Religions, In the absence of a religion, we create a new religion.Voltaire noticed it as well. Try to think of yourself not so much as a freak, but an anomaly, like an albino. Your religion is non-religion or even anti-religion. In the same way money, sex , sports are religions, you have a religion. I know there is a whole "Atheism isn't a religion" song and dance, but it really misses the point. Your void is filled with the inverse. Religion is here to stay, if nothing else it's profitable. It provides both control and release, agony and ecstasy. What has Atheism done ? I'm sure the goal is to shine a light. Unattractive FAIL! These people are looking for security not uncertainty, which is all they can manage. If you're gonna be Albino,put on some sun screen and learn to navigate your environment, bitching because the sun comes up everyday is a drag to you and me.
Yes, you should read the Bible,yes, it has been manipulated and abused. You'll be shocked if you should ever delve into the Pentaeuch, from a Hebrew perspective, read up on archaeology covering the times and places, follow the politics and aspirations of those in charge of bearing the Word and their effect and see a much bigger mystery than a common preacher would dare complicate his vocation with. I suggest to start with something like Azimovs Guide to the Bible. Then the Apocryphal books and the Pseudepigraphical books in the context they were written, EVERYTHING in the context it was written. For that some Archaeology and history is necessary.You'll have a lot to talk about with your pastor.
I actually wasn't speaking of those people. I was speaking of those who go because "they're supposed to to be a good person who goes to church" but do not reflect the philosophies of Christ in their lives as in your final summation.
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With a Board of Directors lineup that includes Repubmocrats like Algore, you're still surprised? If he is benchmark for the fools squandering enough money on Apple stock to have a say, well, brother, you got a ways to go. Politicians, used car dealers, six of one , half a dozen etc...
The industry knows what makes a geek. Outsiders, the rejected, who know they need special powers to make it in life, they grow brains. Gays fit the bill. Congrats, you got a crack at being a full fledged nerd because you aren't the prom king. You get to play in the tech industry to one up Mr. Popularity. Big money can still be the inherited riches of the prom king tho. Or Kings as a quorum ,like a board of directors, who set policy, and do their will. Whoda figured Apple? Shit happens. Coulda been Chick-a-fillet, oops, I guess it was. Coulda been like a Rent-A-Center fiasco alll over again, well kinda.
No surprises here.
Oh yeah? I was never suckered into buying a Mac.
You must be talkin about you're mamas little mistake.
So, someone took grant money,had too much time on their hands, and someone already took global warming, gun control,gay parenting and all the good ones.
Gotta think of something obscure..., well what offends us....let's push our agenda and get PAID, Woohooo!
I recognise the S word as nothing more than half verified homework assigned by lazy professors and bosses, to validate their questionable existence. Later some other lazy ass will give it a glance and call it peer reviewed. Big deal.
Apple is a company that decided their business structure and standards, long damn ago.
If you haven't clued in from the very beginning, with 1 mouse button and no console, they think you are TOO DAMN STUPID to make choices for yourself.
This has been reflected in their products, software and hardware from day one. So, no surprises here.
Since they assign themselves guardianship over their faithful devotees( the stupid of the world, by their vision) Apple wouldn't want that image to fall into the hand of some kid who might get the idea " hey , maybe I can talk Billy into putting mine in his mouth, that would feel neater than whackin' it myself" and then decide arbitrarily that it must mean he is gay and summarily embrace the lifestyle ,erroneously. Nope, Apple is there to protect everyone from themselves, just like a Repubmocrat in Federal office. They know better than YOU, after all. Which is why they have such a huge following. There is a demographic of people out there, that don't like to think for themselves in real life, are willing to let others authoritate their will, and be parented in a strange Freudian sense, by others. ( This may also explain the last century of Repubmocrat tyranny, as well)
So what is all the surprise and silly noises about? This is not outside the historical scope of Apple.
Owned and operated by New Zealand for all the big stuff, but, Villages are entitled to enact their own laws regulating their daily lives and New Zealand law only applies where it has been extended by specific enactment. Serious crime is rare and there are no prisons - offenders are publicly rebuked, fined or made to work
So....I guess local government gets its dirty work done openly upon availability, Their overlords in NZ are too busy working for the MAFIAA to extend assets toward their charge . I suspect murderers will build the roads or scoop out the atoll or something. Pickpockets could collect taxes or something. I dunno use your imagination. 1400 people....NZ looking the other way...sounds like they could run naked in the streets with demon rum, marijuana and illegal downloads with no problems. No government.
Wasn't Peter Fonda in that movie?
" instead of the at least partly democratically accountable existing governments, no."
There are rumors of such entities, but I think the media started it.
I don't think the Repubmocrat tyranny qualifies anyway, if that was your point. I don't think I'd hand the keys over to this generations weak ass Libertarians either.
But, governments DO act that way. Show me one government that; if it doesn't do it's dirty work openly, doesn't have a "secret" agency of some other advertised value, that handles it's hoodlum urges. Governments do as they please, because once in power, they find that those they are to serve are more valuable as an asset to their aspirations as a crop, or commodity , if you will, than a master of their industry. Governments who aren't SPECIFICALLY relegated to sundry maintenance of the peoples general interests and well being,and kept that way, grow corrupt and wild as Kudzu or Ragweed. It then takes bloody revolution to separate their desire for money and power from actual governance, like bombing a field with herbicide.
Wouldn't it be nice to just have a Worldwide Revolt Day and just turn the whole shithouse upside down, then begin again?
Read about the ones that are politically convenient to report on. This is the newsmedia we're talking about. By the time the story gets edited the cop was a hero for it much of the time.If the cops are in the dumper generally, then they can be attention grabbing headlines. If the media is half right, half the time, they're wrong most of the time. What's left over is spun to political or profit agenda, and sorted for competition of luridity. Failures are reported if it is profitable, whether it is failure or not. They have one fat liar, we have several, the one in charge can run a drone up your butt now. They have many guns on them to make them swallow the "official" truth, we are gullible enough to go along voluntarily. You can't tell me how damn much better off we are, it's just a culture shift and skewed math away from the next guys truth. It's all so Catch 22, I can hear Yossarian ranting this.
They will definitely be backing tracks to some future recordings of mine.
Nice of them to open the permissions.
Well, let's check on this claim from my perspective.
I've watched cops do some horrible shit when no one was looking , from beatings to confiscating money and items. You can't open the paper without some story of a crooked cop, on the take, murdering off the clock, raping a suspect, running over kids because they wanted to drive fast without lights on. Now the political circumstances are different , but the corruption is the same.I wouldn't suggest eye contact in a crowd, you'll look suspicious.
I've seen 5 year olds used to steal goods from stores, I've seen a 10 year old sent out to beg for money for his dads meth habit. 8 and 13 year old girls pimped by their mother. No goats, but plenty of dog crap.
All this just from the little city I live in, man, you must be from the burbs!
I can say what I want, but there's a much better chance of "homeland security", the FBI and Bob-knows-what other 3 letter agencies dropping it into a database for future purposes.
Well, aside from the food shortages, due to THEIR governments manipulation of it, because we have endless charities trying to get it to them, things are pretty much the same. A population of people too unconfident in themselves to revolt and do things right.
Man, you sound like a damn infomercial. Get you perspective from somewhere besides the T.V., your yippee professor or your peer group.
Someone should tell him the Clinton administration is gone, it's O.K. to take off his Dads hippy tye dye shirt now.
shhhhhhhh...
SImple fetching and carrying tasks?
Let's replace the Federal Government with uncorruptable simple robots. Constituents concerns can be tablulated by computer to steer voting in the Congress and Senate. Office flunkies and staffers go without saying. Entire Agencies could go robotic. The White House has had Repubmocrat bots for around a century now, this could be replaced with a party neutral machine with much nicer latex skin than the past models have had.
I think my point was; it's an amazing history book for being about stone-bronze age people in spite of embellishment. Much of what is true/ partly true/ slightly true is verifiable by other sources.
I see the whole Noah thing as someone smart enough to boat their personal livestock and the whole thing got blown out of proportion. Not much different from embellishment of modern day legends whose life was much different than advertised like Abe Lincoln. Abe was a lawyer who wrote and distributed a pamphlet denying the divinity of Christ, believed that physical differences would keep blacks from ever being equal to whites and proposed to Congress to settle the slave thing by shipping all the blacks to South America (rejected by Congress AND South American countries). But, we polish him up for the Children.
When a story doesn't jibe with reality, there are still missing elements. Here are some elements that make the WHOLE Bible, Apocrypha and Pseudepigraphica make MUCH more sense. http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/1996/05/01/Kaneh-Bosm-Cannabis-Old-Testament , but you can see it involve a shitstorm of controversy and politics.
Not much truth in history, but what you can dig out of it. I think Voltaire said "History is a pack of lies that we play on the dead". Wisdom, as far as it will go.
Well, if you forget the pain-in-the-ass literal translationists and get over just-any-ol-thing to piss them off, relax and take a look at what it is.
1. First book of the Pentaeuch, the Talmud,the history of the Hebrew peoples. Possibly rewritten from memory by the prophet Ezra and attributed to Moishe (thats Moses before the Greeks misspelled it.)
2.These are the stories that were handed down in a verbal tradition from a people lacking written language for the period portrayed. Some embellishment is expected.
3. The Adam( Hebrew word for Man as in Mankind) and Eve story is someone remembering the oldest memorable person in the lineage and the story they were told. It amounts to the emergence of Man ( we will define it as the emergence of Man with developed introspection, which places it fairly accurately for a verbal tradition. Why would these people leave lovely lush Bablylonia at the fork of the Tigress and Euphrates? The story seeks to relate that to the listener who would be a Hebrew learning his history.
4 The "begets" and the impossible longevity problem. The odd thing is why this is such a mystery. Every one of those names represents a tribe or a place , not necessarily just an individual. So we can say that from Enoch to Methuselah these represent the loosely knit stone age tribes of the Hebrews. The ages give the longevity of the tribe or settlement.
5. Noahs Ark; we know there was a great flood in what is now Armenia, in the valley below the Ararat range (it was a range, not an individual mountain) Watermarks show HIGH water. This was their world, therefore the World was flooded. Remember this is how they explained their history to each other, lacking written language.
Oddly, there is also another tradition that places Gilgamesh in the boat, rather than Noah, but that is someone else, another time.
This just scratches the surface of Genesis and the details it gives, there is much, much more. I recommend " Azimovs Guide to the Bible" as a good read to find more. Yes, it was written by Issac Azimov, from a Jewish/ secular perspective. He really is a great author and scholar outside of science fiction.
I didn't say they aren't discriminated against, I said they feed off it. EEEEENNGREEEEEESH!
Well, lessee, I start a conversation with someone that culminates in their sharing their belief system. No one hid anything, people will talk about themselves, without end at least 3 minutes after their heart stops beating. This is where my info comes from, field samples from across the U.S.
For all I know your mis assertion comes from your special hurt little feelings. "the bad man doesn't understand me, so if I act all vague and menstrual, I can get some attention daddy never gave me.'Well, not being an atheist, I put it to you that you have no clue.' There, I said it now he will understand my pain and love me and hold me til it stops hurting"
You middle earth types are so predictable.
This falls totally in line with the business philosophy that; if you aren't pissing someone off, you are accomplishing nothing.
So I can take a spoonful of schadenfreude, that Christians proselytizing to Atheists is in fact evidence of a Karmic function in the universe.
w00t!
In other words, you are good at interpreting the words of others to steer it around to your point.
I am not equally, but also annoyed with Krsna Consciousness, Scientologist and Penticostal Christian prosylelitization.
It's bad when any of you do it without an invite. Christians at least are a given in a country founded by Christians who list God given rights and put affirmation of their trust in a diety on their money.
Your anger doesn't come from them so much as it comes from the same place as partying hard til you realize you wound up in the wrong place on the bad side of town.
Your blame of confirmational bias could be analyzed for psychological amusements, but that would be unfair since you didn't read in other posts that I study religions and am in contact with many, much of the time, for a long time now.
Now take that chip off your shoulder, you just look ridiculous.
O.K. this is the 4th true Scotsman link posted by novices of the Wikkian faith.
It really makes the rest of it sound like Charlie Browns Teacher" Wahwahwahwha wahwah wha wa wawa wahwah."
Some light blather about your little faith getting bruised and taking a couple pokes @ religion as a whole then end with ridiculous assertions about Christians in general.
Well buddy, it's always something, either daddy touched you too much or not enough. I feel for you man. I'm not here to defend either of you, I'm here to study you.
If that's what's on your mind, maybe your mama can help. I dunno , try drinking.
I think much of it is curiosity that they can't quite communicate without "battling beliefs".
I'm sure they are concerned for you, which is natural. Then they feel frustration with a feeling of your being beyond their help, they don't know how to handle this, they lash out at you in their pain. This is also natural, we are imperfect and this is demonstrated in the animal kingdom as well.
As anyone from a subculture will tell you, wave your freak flag high and be ready to take a few punches.No one promised you soft toilet tissue, you get the cob.
I wouldn't hold my breath about people leaving religions for any longer than I'd hold it for Johns Apocalypse. We are wired to defer to higher powers. We developed Religions, In the absence of a religion, we create a new religion.Voltaire noticed it as well. Try to think of yourself not so much as a freak, but an anomaly, like an albino. Your religion is non-religion or even anti-religion. In the same way money, sex , sports are religions, you have a religion. I know there is a whole "Atheism isn't a religion" song and dance, but it really misses the point. Your void is filled with the inverse. Religion is here to stay, if nothing else it's profitable. It provides both control and release, agony and ecstasy. What has Atheism done ? I'm sure the goal is to shine a light. Unattractive FAIL! These people are looking for security not uncertainty, which is all they can manage. If you're gonna be Albino,put on some sun screen and learn to navigate your environment, bitching because the sun comes up everyday is a drag to you and me.
Yes, you should read the Bible,yes, it has been manipulated and abused. You'll be shocked if you should ever delve into the Pentaeuch, from a Hebrew perspective, read up on archaeology covering the times and places, follow the politics and aspirations of those in charge of bearing the Word and their effect and see a much bigger mystery than a common preacher would dare complicate his vocation with. I suggest to start with something like Azimovs Guide to the Bible. Then the Apocryphal books and the Pseudepigraphical books in the context they were written, EVERYTHING in the context it was written. For that some Archaeology and history is necessary.You'll have a lot to talk about with your pastor.
I actually wasn't speaking of those people. I was speaking of those who go because "they're supposed to to be a good person who goes to church" but do not reflect the philosophies of Christ in their lives as in your final summation.
My bad, he joined April 13, 1973.
And converted to Satan in the 60s, maybe you should quit wanking to your moms old Hollywood gossip rags from the mid 50s.