One thing I can't seem to find in these things is this: did they have ANY kind of AV installed? if so what kind? i know they use the latest version of the OS with all current patches installed (although someone pointed out the other day it looked to be Chrome 11 from the screencaps at pwn2own) but it would be nice to know if it had an AV like virtually every desktop on the planet or if they give them a machine clear of AV or antispy.
Actually if you'd have read the comments (as opposed to the tiny summary which is written by a guy that got hit by "Voldemort syndrome" one time too many and snapped) you'd see just what you are complaining isn't there, a nice long discussion of CLI VS API VS GUI for a job. Personally i have to agree with many of them that the current fad of using CLI in place of an API is just dumb, you have tons of programs in Linux that literally scrape CLI, now WTF is the point of that? But if you want something meatier here. Final verdict? if you're not writing scripts its kinda pointless as that is the big selling point of CLI, how scriptable it is. As one of the guys put in the comments of the first link "Its like building a robot to type on a keyboard, sure it'll work but its kinda pointless".
Sadly that pretty much sums of FLOSS desktop OSes at the moment, kinda pointless. See this overview or see this article. But in the end if you aren't scripting you simply are taking more time to do less, if that floats your boat fine but I can do the same trick with a simple link launcher program that takes arguments.
But to do so you have to go AROUND the lousy Metro first to get to the desktop. lets be honest, okay? its a smartphone. YOU know this, I know this, hell anybody with eyes knows this. the entire UI is designed for a one app at a time max screened smartphone. the reason MSFT is pushing Metro at all is because its getting the living shit stomped out of them in the mobile space and they know that X86 desktops simply will never have the growth rate of smartphones because people don't throw their desktops away every 2 years when a contract is up, which they do with their smartphones.
In the end THERE IS A REASON why Apple isn't running iOS on the new macbooks, and that's because that UI just doesn't work in that form factor. For years MSFT tried to force the Windows desktop metaphor onto smartphones, remember WinMo? With the itty bitty start button? Well after years of that being a mega fail someone says 'Hey...what if we reversed that? you know like Willy Wonka? We'll put the smartphone ON THE DESKTOP and then when people are used to using WinPhone because they get stuck with it on every new Dell...why they'll buy the smartphone because its familiar, its bloody brilliant!" only its NOT brilliant, its a failwhale. I'm sure several in MSFT have tried to point out that's a fail, probably got fired or told to STFU, because Ballmer wants to be the head of Apple so bad it hurts.
Mark my words, this will joining Zune, kin, winMo, and WinPhone on the giant fail heap that is MSFT's mobile efforts proving once again they just don't get it. Personally I'll be glad when they just accept they are the new IBM and save any innovation for the Xbox.
Since you seem to know, can you give a brief description of the difference between AGPL, GPL, and MPL for us common folk please? there seem to be a shitzillion licenses out there but those 3 along with BSD (which is easy to follow, its pretty much a "give credit where credit is due" kinda thing) look to be the biggies but knowing what makes one different (and thus incompatible) from the others is hard to keep up with. I know MPL allows copyrighted images, is that the only difference? Is AGPL mainly focused on hosted code? Someone really should make a handy chart for those of us that aren't programmers by trade so we can easily spot the differences.
If you haven't watched the Plinkett review of ST VIII then i highly recommend it. I always wondered why i never really cared for the ST:TNG movies when the TV show was one of my absolute favorites and then Plinkett said something that was like a light bulb for me "There are two Picards". You see in the series Picard was smart and thoughtful, and stuck to his beliefs, more of a chessmaster than Kirk's poker player, yet in the movies he's this angry emotional hothead that is quick to act with little to no thought or regard for those around him. the movie Kirk and the TV Kirk are pretty much the same guy, he was always "Meh, we'll wing it" but Picard thought more about the big picture. The example Plinkett gave was in the series he was given a chance to completely wipe out the Borg AFTER he had been assimilated, yet he refused because it would be genocide yet in First Contact they have him practically foaming at the mouth for the blood of the borg. For me that explained completely why I hated the TNG movies yet couldn't figure out why, its because all the characters play against type and pass around the idiot ball just so they can squeeze more action in.
I think the part where he took the right turn into totally batshit though is the " most new monitors will be touch enabled because of the demand" part. He seems to be forgetting that adding touch as much as triples the cost on a 24 inch monitor and in fact at current prices the consumer has a choice of a 17 inch monitor for $300 or a 27 inch monitor for $200, ohh and the 27 is 1080p while the 17 is 1366x768. Now I may not be an expert on the free market or anything but I REALLY don't think when given a choice like that the consumer is gonna go "Hey, fuck that high def screen with a great picture, I want to finger my screen baby yeah!" do you?
Besides we know that thurott is a Wintroll, just as SJVN is a lintroll. Both make their daily bread by posting articles designed to piss as many people off as possible to crank up the comments and the pageviews, no different than the "is this the death of (insert FOSS/Linux, MSFT,)" articles that make it to the front page every so often. its clickbait, nothing more. also remember this is the SAME GUY that was practically creaming his shorts over VISTA, which all of us who beta tested it were more than happy to tell you stank of failure. hell I've got a better track record than this bozo, as i called Zune, Kin, and Vista all failwhales and predicted that MSFT hamstringing playsforsure would kill any lock in they had left in the media market. the only thing I called wrong was the Win 7 taskbar but to be fair I didn't think companies would jump on board with jumplist support after getting burnt by Vista and jumplists make the loss of the QL unnoticeable.
So what you are bragging about is you are using a very very very very very very very very very very VERY old GUI, is that correct? Perhaps you might want to read this and rethink your position.
But it would be a fucking AWESOME dog! Just think, it could fetch you a beer, the slippers AND the remote at the same time! Man that would be like the bestest doggie ever!
Is that the new nigger and faggot, troll and shill? Because its pretty damned obvious to tell a real shill, see the one at the top of this article with no less than 6 links including Youtube videos, all in under 3 minutes and still managing to get first post. Now THAT is obviously shilling, since they took the time to have it all prepped and ready to go. oh and the linux guys aren't grass roots, they're just plain old batshit. Look at how many here have Voldemort syndrome. Hell you don't see Apple guys going "That company that is from the northwest one mustn't speak of!" or Windows guys going "That certain company that makes things with the letter i, but don't say it out loud!" but Voldemort syndrome has spread through the Linux community like a damned cancer. I can see why so many of the ones i used to converse with in 05,06 ended up going Mac, the nutjobs are kinda embarrassing now.
So please, go ahead and call me a nigger now, or is it faggot? Since the batshit extremists have started taking over this place I've so far been accused of shilling for, in no particular order, MSFT (which is funny considering how much I've written about why Win 8 sucks ass), Comodo (never been to India, sorry) Apple (WTF? I don't even own an iPod) and I was even told by a FOSSie that my saying IE was a giant pile of shit was actually shilling FOR IE, still haven't figured out how that works. I guess if you don't put "All hail RMS" afterwards it must count as a positive for IE.
But frankly when the REAL shills and astroturfers are so damned obvious you can play buzzword bingo with their posts all this nigger faggot name calling just makes you sound like a 14 year old halo player. BTW I bet you own an X360 yes? can't get enough of that teabagging i bet.
Dude a 17 inch touch is $300, a 24 inch non touch is $130, do you honestly think MSFT is gonna magically change those figures? Last time I was looking around I read that adding touch to a laptop added around $60-$80 to the cost depending on the screen size, do you think the OEMs are gonna eat that cost? or that users are gonna turn down a more full featured laptop with better specs for one that can touch?
Lets call a spade a spade, this is a Hail Mary by MSFT who has got such a woody to be Apple since Ballmer took over it ain't even funny, but its not gonna work. they have already missed the boat, both Google and Apple completely pimp smack them in mobile and Win 8 won't change that. The way I see it they have TWO choices, 1.- Accept they are the new IBM and accept their place is desktops/laptops and Office, along with gaming, or 2.-Spin off the mobile division so they can live or die on their own terms without having to drag along the desktop.
they are gonna have to do one or the other, because the market has so little confidence in Ballmer when MSFT had its best quarter ever a little while back their stock didn't even twitch which tells me nobody believes Ballmer has got what it takes and this giant failwhale after Vista failing so soon is gonna be all the proof the market needs. spin off mobile, put the office guys in charge of the desktop, and continue to support gaming and the living room by making windows and Xbox seamlessly work together. this is just a giant disaster.
Riiiight, because everybody just bought Vista and said "we'll deal"...oh wait, no...that's not what happened, the revolted en masse and ran back for XP as fast as they could, so fast that when sales completely crapped the OEMs had a living shitfit and demanded (and got) downgrade rights so all their new machines got XP on them.
The masses aren't as helpless as you think friend. sure they won't tweak, they'll just walk away. if you don't give them something they want someone else will. I made a ton of extra scratch making "that damned Vista go away" and by selling nice new XP boxes until the OEMs jumped on board and started selling XP too, i have a feeling I better start printing up those "We have Windows 7!" flyers as I'm probably gonna need 'em.
And how do you get back to a page in Chrome you launched 3 days ago with your magic shortcuts? how about that explorer window you had open yesterday? for me i just right click and tada! There's the jumplist. Keyboard shortcuts are the most unintuitive way to do things ever. Sure if you have memorized them they are great, but ask the folks in line at the bank how many Windows shortcuts they know, you'll be lucky if they know how to copy and paste.
In the end it doesn't matter anyway, Win 8 is the new MS Bob, its a bad idea with a bad UI designed for something completely different than what its being run on, all because Ballmer just can't accept he has lost the mobile space. hell even my 70 year old dad is looking at Android phones, give it up Ballmer, you missed the boat.
Glad to see you got modded up, too bad there isn't a +5 nailed it" moderation. This is nothing but the exact opposite of the failure of WinMo, anybody remember WinMo? How they made it a little desktop with a little start button that made NO FRICKING SENSE for the form factor? Now we have metro which is taking the Smartphone/tablet UI and shoehorning it into the desktop, for the love of God why? Are people gonna throw away all those widescreen monitors to buy little 15 inch touchscreens? are all the laptops suddenly gonna have touch? And to every developer out there...don't you feel insulted? that MSFT thinks you're so damned stupid they can get you to develop for their WinARM app store by trying to sell you the "write once, run anywhere" horseshit?
Sadly I think I know where they got this idea....Vista. Remember what happened with Vista? How people just went back to XP? Well MSFT has already said Windows 7 will be supported until 2020 which means anyone stupid enough to buy Win 8 runs the risk of being abandoned like Vista. Because thanks to 7 there really isn't a big risk here for MSFT, they can continue to sell 7 to businesses and if the OEMs have a shitfit let them sell Win 7 too. To me the sad part is that Metro would make a great replacement for WinMo but its gonna be so covered in the stench of failure it'll never get a chance and frankly there isn't a damned thing wrong with 7, in fact I'd say its the most balanced OS I've ever seen. For the clueless like my dad the easy search makes it all simple to navigate and for power users there is jumplists and breadcrumbs. It plays nice with everything, its solid as a rock, its just a nice OS.
Show of hands, how many here thinks this has even a tiny shot of beating the little green bot and the iShiny?/crickets chirping/ thought so.
Dude, lets cut the bull,kay? Its a fricking SMARTPHONE UI that they bolted on because they are getting pimp slapped by Google and Apple! When the yahoo product girl, whose such a shill her answer to every stupid thing is "Buy it now, no really you should buy it! Just go buy it right now!" says of Win 8 "Uhhh...you should wait until you have something touch enabled before buying it" you KNOW you're in trouble.
Lets be honest folks, its gonna bomb. YOU know this, I know this, hell everyone but MSFT seems to know this. the problem with metro is three fold: One it royally sucks the big wet titty on large screens because surprise! its a smartphone UI, its not made for that. but for desktops and laptops big screens are common, hell you can buy a 24 incher for like $140 now. Second its ENTIRE DESIGN is built around touch. What's wrong with that? How many touch desktops you own? how about touch laptops? look at the numbers, touch enabled desktops and laptops make up less than 2% of the market and that's if you don't cut out POS and kiosks, cut those out you are probably looking at less than a percent. Now this is simply not gonna change because of MSFT because touch screens are MUCH more expensive than dumb panels. last i looked a 17 inch touch was nearly $300, do you HONESTLY think the OEMs are gonna eat the difference? Finally the uber fail, people buy Windows to run WINDOWS PROGRAMS so what does MSFT do? "Hey we'll put it on ARM and call it win 8 too!"...okay, so what happens when all those folks get their Win 8 tablet home and find out windows don't actually run Windows programs? Can you say massive returns boys and girls? i thought you could.
Lets face it Metro IS nice...on ARM tablets, THAT IS ALL. But Ballmer knows developers quit giving a shit about WinMo years ago so he is trying to see if devs are stupid enough to buy the bullshit that "Hey if I develop for Metro i can have the desktop AND mobile with only one program!" while ignoring that X86 and ARM are about as different as different can be and if you don't take the strengths and weaknesses of each into consideration its just gonna suck.
Actually it doesn't sound like 1984 to me, more "Brave New World" where we basically drown in info overload. Considering that now one can live their life with all the info tailor made for whatever myopic view they have and you can have damned near anything fed ex to your doorstep so you never even have to leave your cave?
"You sharpen the human appetite to the point where it can split atoms with its desire; you build egos the size of cathedrals; fiber-optically connect the world to every eager impulse; grease even the dullest dreams with these dollar-green, gold-plated fantasies, until every human becomes an aspiring emperor, becomes his own God... and where can you go from there? "
Besides wouldn't the smarter thing to do to be capturing all the carbon we belch out anyway and using it to make biofuels thus actually cutting down on the amount of greenhouse gasses? hell that might even stop the outsource hemorrhaging we've been having in this country where all the factories go to Asia where nobody gives a fuck about greenhouse gasses.
While coming up with new ways to produce power is good ultimately we need to be working on ways of bring the current damage DOWN without simply moving pollution to the left as we have been doing. Lets face it folks our 40 plus years of environmental regulations has done fuck all except kill our economy because thanks to globalism the corps can simply go poison the third world while still having access to first world markets. look at how over 10% of China's farmland is now toxic from heavy metals and other pollution. I'd say the best bet I've seen so far is biodiesel farms set up next to factories. This way we can keep the factories going while turning what would have been pollution into something we can actually use.
Got caught doing what? pointing out you're batshit? Guilty as charged. pointing out that your OS is a giant fail that has been tossed aside by virtually everyone? yep guilty. hell you can't even fucking read well enough to accurately quote someone, you think you have the skillz to do anything other than pick losers? I find that hilarious. Hell your OS can't even keep one of the oldest companies alive. Notice how they ONLY broke even after they GAVE UP? That's too fucking funny. So as a public service to all those that haven't seen what a complete miserable failure your much vaunted OS is, let me give them some fact, enjoy!
BTW if you'd like a little more food for thought, what OS was 3 of the 4 CAs running that were compromised? takea lookand see. Maybe they just had configs? Surely someone with knowledge would be safe right? Guess again and its not a flukeby any means.
Now try the "hairyfeet challenge" which so far the best score is 6 out of 9, which still equals 3 pissed off customers. And as for the other poster whining that " I shouldn't take the PC back" because they got burned by a Windows only device? if I took that attitude I would be out of business in 6 months or less. Word of mouth can make or break a repair shop, and burning my customers doesn't build up good will. Ready for the "hairyfeet challenge? Here goes-
Open up three tabs in your browser. From this moment until the end of the challenge you are a virtual shopper and three of my customers shopping in the stores I'm about to name after buying a Kubuntu box from me. You must NOT do research before purchase! Consumers don't do research before a sale on anything less expensive than a car, and if you want to increase accuracy of the challenge buy the cheapest whenever possible, as consumers buy on features/price most of the time. Here is where you are shopping- In the first tab go to Walmart.com, second Bestbuy.com, third Staples.com. These are the "big three" and where my customers shop for gadgets. Next place on of each of these items in your virtual cart-An all in one printer, a Wifi USB card, and a USB TV Tuner. There are the three most asked about items here. Now go to Ubuntu forums and see if your items are supported. If you wish top increase accuracy you will not avoid brands like Lexmark as a consumer who isn't familiar with Linux would have no idea to avoid them.
How many carts were you able to get out of the store with 100% support? if you are lucky you got out with one cart, and that is if you "cheated" by avoiding Lexmark that the average consumer wouldn't remember to do even if you warned them beforehand. And THAT is why I can't support and sell Linux in my shop. Because those other two carts would be bringing their PC back to "fix" and when I couldn't do so I would have to return their money or risk losing business. Trying to bundle you will simply go bankrupt. I can add value to a PC purchased from me by virtue of the software and tweaks applied before you pick it up. The only difference between an all in one I carry and the one at Walmart is that Walmart will undercut me by 30% or more because they can buy them by the trainload and I can not. The margins on such items are so bad that short of buying them by the trainload I would end up losing money.
Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does
They don't have to, all they have to have is the most trivial of security crypto and then they can have them busted under DMCA. Also the courts have held EULAs to be valid and I'm sure that it says quite clearly in the EULA that as you point out you HAVE to have a terminal services CAL for EACH USER that accesses this. Now since i doubt Onlive has shelled out a couple of million for TS CALs the only question is how badly the courts are gonna bust them and how high the fines are gonna be. Since this is the willful breaking of copyrights, EULAs, and contracts for profit? Onlive will be lucky if they have enough money left to keep the lights on.
Like it or not you DO have the right to license software as you wish and if MSFT doesn't want to give you a cheap and easy way to do what onlive is doing its their code they can do that. just as I can't force GPL to allow me to make proprietary apps out of GPL code without buying the rights from the devs so too can MSFT say they won't let you stream services without a TS CAL.
Uhhh...you sentence doesn't parse, you DO know this correct? if you have Wine letting you run Windows on windows...how are you not buying windows EXACTLY? And while i give great credit to the Wine guys, unless you use the VERY small list of programs they've tested for (seriously there are millions of Windows programs folks) then you are really SOL unless you have some major programming and troubleshooting skillz, which just wiped out 94% of Windows users.
More likely this will be Vista all over again, only replace XP with 7. Everyone I've talked to and the over 200 customers I've shown Win 8 to now have all said "We'll stay with 7, thanks' and its already been announced that Win 7 is supported until 2020 (most likely to give businesses a choice as they won't want Win 8 which is so bling bling consumer it ain't funny) so the OEMs will pitch a fit, Ballmer will have egg all over his face AGAIN, and maybe we'll finally see the end of the sweaty monkey. i mean they recently had their most profitable quarter in history, even with a dead economy, yet their stock has gone nowhere, why? because nobody has any confidence in such a piss poor CEO. Oh and you can give it up on apple, their desktop and laptops aren't subsidized like their phones and pads are and the average person isn't gonna spend $1500+ for a machine when they can get one that is just as fast for $500.
Why does the land of fruits and nuts get to dictate what's in our Cokes? and what ever happened to personal responsibility? why must we baby proof the world? hell living causes cancer, we gonna stick warnings on babies next? Oh and before anybody says its because of the rising cost of healthcare (while ignoring the average 3000% profits the drug companies are making is what's causing the incredible explosion of cost) let me retort with this modest proposal: I'll be happy to sign an iron clad wavier that says if i get cancer the ONLY thing I'll get is plain old morphine (which is cheap) and in return you remove ALL TAXES and hand me a get out of jail free card which covers pretty much any sin law, so no more taxes on cigarettes and beer, no more throwing me in jail if I want to smoke a joint, deal? watch how quick your weaselly congress critters balk at that proposal, why? because all those taxes are going to pretty much anything BUT healthcare, its just another way they can raise taxes without the masses balking. Hell mine spent the cigarette taxes on a trauma center when there wasn't a damned thing wrong with the one we had, why? "Because the state next door had a nicer one that we did", yeah like smokers are constantly rushed to trauma centers and we are all four years old, God forbid someone has something nicer than us!
basically the whole thing stinks. no matter how much you dumb down the planet all you are gonna get is bigger dipshits. if you give ANYTHING in massive doses to mice its gonna kill them, hell even water. Maybe we should put a warning label about water too, along with a giant arrow that shows the idiots which end of the bottle the liquid comes out of, geez.
The ONLY way the Matrix trilogy could be saved is if the fan theory was true and Neo never left the Matrix. then instead of some lame electro jesus it would be a royal mindfuck where the machines, realizing that a percentage would never accept the construct, created a much worse "real world" to give them something they could believe.
Can you imagine if one of the machines popped into Zion at the end of the third and simply told them" you are suffering and living like this because this is what you wanted. You poisoned the planet so badly during the war it is simply unfit for life. We first tried to give you paradise, that failed. We then tried to give you the height of your civilization, but you rejected it, so we had only the choice of creating this "hell world" or killing you and we chose what we thought would be more humane. sorry if it doesn't make you happy but this is all you would accept, a world of suffering".
Now THAT would have been a truly awesome ending that would have left you seriously wondering about big questions like whether man could accept a true paradise. as for the prequels? I'd say Plinkett nailed it and anybody who hasn't watched these videos really needs to. he points out thing I never noticed...but my brain did, like how lazy Lucas had gotten with the "over over two shot" like on soap operas, just so he could do everything in front of green screens. he points out in great detail the incredible fail that is the prequels, how they even butcher their own mythology just so Lucas can throw more shit at the screen and do more CGI. BTW watch his review of the last indy flick and you'll find out how big a hack Lucas really is. Did you know he wanted to set indy 3 in a fricking haunted house? You listen to what his original ideas for indy and Star Wars were and you think "ZOMFG, what is he insane?" and then you realize the ONLY reason he ever made anything good was people willing to stand up and say "George that just doesn't work" but now he's so rich nobody will stand up to him and this is what happens.
U Mad Bro? don't feel bad, you just picked a loser, that's all. hell even the United States government found your bullshit to be a big pile of shite. but hey, you can tell them that they are just jealous and CLI is leet and its written by skilled programmers don't forget Linux runs on toasters LOL! BTW isn't the 6 month upgrade deathmarch coming up, AKA the great Linux "LOL I made a stinky" where you have to do the "great forum hunt" to find the fixes to make your POS run another day? better carve some time out for that. oh and just to show there is no hard feelings let me leave you with some wisdom from your "dear leader" LOL!
Actually unity fits in perfectly with your point in the second and third paragraphs which hits the nail on the head. You see Canonical isn't going with unity because it WANTS to, its doing so because it simply HAS NO CHOICE. they HAVE to have something they can sell on tablets, or netbooks, or something, just to keep the lights on. because sadly you've hit it dead bang on why the GPL is going nowhere fast and other licenses are doing better, because there is simply ZERO way to make money fixing the problems if the first guy you hand the code to can turn right around and undercut you thanks to having no R&D costs. Why the FOSS community can't seem to grasp something that is so blatantly obvious is beyond me but it has made corporations avoid GPL like the plague because it IS toxic. Ultimately TINSTAAFL and when linux needs at a minimum a good 60 million plus worth of work and polish to bring it up to what the current offerings of the competition are? Well as someone who has been trying Linux since 2000 I can say that while Windows and OSX have made some truly incredible leaps Linux on desktops has been nothing but a disappointment.
But how good is the AI and the hunting? because that's what i miss the most, actually having a decent battle where I could stalk and kill. That was what i loved about the bioshock series as i could set up a killbox with the right combo of traps and turrents so that once a bad guy came into my arena it was on, no matter which way they went i was ready. Nowadays it seems like all the developers go "meh, we'll just throw in MP" which is always a bunch of smart mouthed 14 year olds running like chickens with their heads cut off just firing at everything. No thought or strategy at all, just mindless fire. But I'll see if they have a demo, can't be as bad as the dreck that's been coming out lately and I haven't seen any real humor in a FPS since the NOLF series.
You haven't actually READ a MSFT license in awhile, have you? there is like 40+ pages to the thing where lawyers have tried to cover every single possible use case you can imagine and considering thin clients have been around for over 15 years i seriously doubt their licenses don't have clauses concerning thin clients and cloud computing. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it says quite clearly you have to buy a user CAL for every user who accesses thin clients which if they are giving this service free I seriously doubt they did.
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One thing I can't seem to find in these things is this: did they have ANY kind of AV installed? if so what kind? i know they use the latest version of the OS with all current patches installed (although someone pointed out the other day it looked to be Chrome 11 from the screencaps at pwn2own) but it would be nice to know if it had an AV like virtually every desktop on the planet or if they give them a machine clear of AV or antispy.
Actually if you'd have read the comments (as opposed to the tiny summary which is written by a guy that got hit by "Voldemort syndrome" one time too many and snapped) you'd see just what you are complaining isn't there, a nice long discussion of CLI VS API VS GUI for a job. Personally i have to agree with many of them that the current fad of using CLI in place of an API is just dumb, you have tons of programs in Linux that literally scrape CLI, now WTF is the point of that? But if you want something meatier here. Final verdict? if you're not writing scripts its kinda pointless as that is the big selling point of CLI, how scriptable it is. As one of the guys put in the comments of the first link "Its like building a robot to type on a keyboard, sure it'll work but its kinda pointless".
Sadly that pretty much sums of FLOSS desktop OSes at the moment, kinda pointless. See this overview or see this article. But in the end if you aren't scripting you simply are taking more time to do less, if that floats your boat fine but I can do the same trick with a simple link launcher program that takes arguments.
But to do so you have to go AROUND the lousy Metro first to get to the desktop. lets be honest, okay? its a smartphone. YOU know this, I know this, hell anybody with eyes knows this. the entire UI is designed for a one app at a time max screened smartphone. the reason MSFT is pushing Metro at all is because its getting the living shit stomped out of them in the mobile space and they know that X86 desktops simply will never have the growth rate of smartphones because people don't throw their desktops away every 2 years when a contract is up, which they do with their smartphones.
In the end THERE IS A REASON why Apple isn't running iOS on the new macbooks, and that's because that UI just doesn't work in that form factor. For years MSFT tried to force the Windows desktop metaphor onto smartphones, remember WinMo? With the itty bitty start button? Well after years of that being a mega fail someone says 'Hey...what if we reversed that? you know like Willy Wonka? We'll put the smartphone ON THE DESKTOP and then when people are used to using WinPhone because they get stuck with it on every new Dell...why they'll buy the smartphone because its familiar, its bloody brilliant!" only its NOT brilliant, its a failwhale. I'm sure several in MSFT have tried to point out that's a fail, probably got fired or told to STFU, because Ballmer wants to be the head of Apple so bad it hurts.
Mark my words, this will joining Zune, kin, winMo, and WinPhone on the giant fail heap that is MSFT's mobile efforts proving once again they just don't get it. Personally I'll be glad when they just accept they are the new IBM and save any innovation for the Xbox.
Since you seem to know, can you give a brief description of the difference between AGPL, GPL, and MPL for us common folk please? there seem to be a shitzillion licenses out there but those 3 along with BSD (which is easy to follow, its pretty much a "give credit where credit is due" kinda thing) look to be the biggies but knowing what makes one different (and thus incompatible) from the others is hard to keep up with. I know MPL allows copyrighted images, is that the only difference? Is AGPL mainly focused on hosted code? Someone really should make a handy chart for those of us that aren't programmers by trade so we can easily spot the differences.
If you haven't watched the Plinkett review of ST VIII then i highly recommend it. I always wondered why i never really cared for the ST:TNG movies when the TV show was one of my absolute favorites and then Plinkett said something that was like a light bulb for me "There are two Picards". You see in the series Picard was smart and thoughtful, and stuck to his beliefs, more of a chessmaster than Kirk's poker player, yet in the movies he's this angry emotional hothead that is quick to act with little to no thought or regard for those around him. the movie Kirk and the TV Kirk are pretty much the same guy, he was always "Meh, we'll wing it" but Picard thought more about the big picture. The example Plinkett gave was in the series he was given a chance to completely wipe out the Borg AFTER he had been assimilated, yet he refused because it would be genocide yet in First Contact they have him practically foaming at the mouth for the blood of the borg. For me that explained completely why I hated the TNG movies yet couldn't figure out why, its because all the characters play against type and pass around the idiot ball just so they can squeeze more action in.
I think the part where he took the right turn into totally batshit though is the " most new monitors will be touch enabled because of the demand" part. He seems to be forgetting that adding touch as much as triples the cost on a 24 inch monitor and in fact at current prices the consumer has a choice of a 17 inch monitor for $300 or a 27 inch monitor for $200, ohh and the 27 is 1080p while the 17 is 1366x768. Now I may not be an expert on the free market or anything but I REALLY don't think when given a choice like that the consumer is gonna go "Hey, fuck that high def screen with a great picture, I want to finger my screen baby yeah!" do you?
Besides we know that thurott is a Wintroll, just as SJVN is a lintroll. Both make their daily bread by posting articles designed to piss as many people off as possible to crank up the comments and the pageviews, no different than the "is this the death of (insert FOSS/Linux, MSFT,)" articles that make it to the front page every so often. its clickbait, nothing more. also remember this is the SAME GUY that was practically creaming his shorts over VISTA, which all of us who beta tested it were more than happy to tell you stank of failure. hell I've got a better track record than this bozo, as i called Zune, Kin, and Vista all failwhales and predicted that MSFT hamstringing playsforsure would kill any lock in they had left in the media market. the only thing I called wrong was the Win 7 taskbar but to be fair I didn't think companies would jump on board with jumplist support after getting burnt by Vista and jumplists make the loss of the QL unnoticeable.
So what you are bragging about is you are using a very very very very very very very very very very VERY old GUI, is that correct? Perhaps you might want to read this and rethink your position.
But it would be a fucking AWESOME dog! Just think, it could fetch you a beer, the slippers AND the remote at the same time! Man that would be like the bestest doggie ever!
Is that the new nigger and faggot, troll and shill? Because its pretty damned obvious to tell a real shill, see the one at the top of this article with no less than 6 links including Youtube videos, all in under 3 minutes and still managing to get first post. Now THAT is obviously shilling, since they took the time to have it all prepped and ready to go. oh and the linux guys aren't grass roots, they're just plain old batshit. Look at how many here have Voldemort syndrome. Hell you don't see Apple guys going "That company that is from the northwest one mustn't speak of!" or Windows guys going "That certain company that makes things with the letter i, but don't say it out loud!" but Voldemort syndrome has spread through the Linux community like a damned cancer. I can see why so many of the ones i used to converse with in 05,06 ended up going Mac, the nutjobs are kinda embarrassing now.
So please, go ahead and call me a nigger now, or is it faggot? Since the batshit extremists have started taking over this place I've so far been accused of shilling for, in no particular order, MSFT (which is funny considering how much I've written about why Win 8 sucks ass), Comodo (never been to India, sorry) Apple (WTF? I don't even own an iPod) and I was even told by a FOSSie that my saying IE was a giant pile of shit was actually shilling FOR IE, still haven't figured out how that works. I guess if you don't put "All hail RMS" afterwards it must count as a positive for IE.
But frankly when the REAL shills and astroturfers are so damned obvious you can play buzzword bingo with their posts all this nigger faggot name calling just makes you sound like a 14 year old halo player. BTW I bet you own an X360 yes? can't get enough of that teabagging i bet.
Dude a 17 inch touch is $300, a 24 inch non touch is $130, do you honestly think MSFT is gonna magically change those figures? Last time I was looking around I read that adding touch to a laptop added around $60-$80 to the cost depending on the screen size, do you think the OEMs are gonna eat that cost? or that users are gonna turn down a more full featured laptop with better specs for one that can touch?
Lets call a spade a spade, this is a Hail Mary by MSFT who has got such a woody to be Apple since Ballmer took over it ain't even funny, but its not gonna work. they have already missed the boat, both Google and Apple completely pimp smack them in mobile and Win 8 won't change that. The way I see it they have TWO choices, 1.- Accept they are the new IBM and accept their place is desktops/laptops and Office, along with gaming, or 2.-Spin off the mobile division so they can live or die on their own terms without having to drag along the desktop.
they are gonna have to do one or the other, because the market has so little confidence in Ballmer when MSFT had its best quarter ever a little while back their stock didn't even twitch which tells me nobody believes Ballmer has got what it takes and this giant failwhale after Vista failing so soon is gonna be all the proof the market needs. spin off mobile, put the office guys in charge of the desktop, and continue to support gaming and the living room by making windows and Xbox seamlessly work together. this is just a giant disaster.
Riiiight, because everybody just bought Vista and said "we'll deal"...oh wait, no...that's not what happened, the revolted en masse and ran back for XP as fast as they could, so fast that when sales completely crapped the OEMs had a living shitfit and demanded (and got) downgrade rights so all their new machines got XP on them.
The masses aren't as helpless as you think friend. sure they won't tweak, they'll just walk away. if you don't give them something they want someone else will. I made a ton of extra scratch making "that damned Vista go away" and by selling nice new XP boxes until the OEMs jumped on board and started selling XP too, i have a feeling I better start printing up those "We have Windows 7!" flyers as I'm probably gonna need 'em.
And how do you get back to a page in Chrome you launched 3 days ago with your magic shortcuts? how about that explorer window you had open yesterday? for me i just right click and tada! There's the jumplist. Keyboard shortcuts are the most unintuitive way to do things ever. Sure if you have memorized them they are great, but ask the folks in line at the bank how many Windows shortcuts they know, you'll be lucky if they know how to copy and paste.
In the end it doesn't matter anyway, Win 8 is the new MS Bob, its a bad idea with a bad UI designed for something completely different than what its being run on, all because Ballmer just can't accept he has lost the mobile space. hell even my 70 year old dad is looking at Android phones, give it up Ballmer, you missed the boat.
Glad to see you got modded up, too bad there isn't a +5 nailed it" moderation. This is nothing but the exact opposite of the failure of WinMo, anybody remember WinMo? How they made it a little desktop with a little start button that made NO FRICKING SENSE for the form factor? Now we have metro which is taking the Smartphone/tablet UI and shoehorning it into the desktop, for the love of God why? Are people gonna throw away all those widescreen monitors to buy little 15 inch touchscreens? are all the laptops suddenly gonna have touch? And to every developer out there...don't you feel insulted? that MSFT thinks you're so damned stupid they can get you to develop for their WinARM app store by trying to sell you the "write once, run anywhere" horseshit?
Sadly I think I know where they got this idea....Vista. Remember what happened with Vista? How people just went back to XP? Well MSFT has already said Windows 7 will be supported until 2020 which means anyone stupid enough to buy Win 8 runs the risk of being abandoned like Vista. Because thanks to 7 there really isn't a big risk here for MSFT, they can continue to sell 7 to businesses and if the OEMs have a shitfit let them sell Win 7 too. To me the sad part is that Metro would make a great replacement for WinMo but its gonna be so covered in the stench of failure it'll never get a chance and frankly there isn't a damned thing wrong with 7, in fact I'd say its the most balanced OS I've ever seen. For the clueless like my dad the easy search makes it all simple to navigate and for power users there is jumplists and breadcrumbs. It plays nice with everything, its solid as a rock, its just a nice OS.
Show of hands, how many here thinks this has even a tiny shot of beating the little green bot and the iShiny? /crickets chirping/ thought so.
Dude, lets cut the bull,kay? Its a fricking SMARTPHONE UI that they bolted on because they are getting pimp slapped by Google and Apple! When the yahoo product girl, whose such a shill her answer to every stupid thing is "Buy it now, no really you should buy it! Just go buy it right now!" says of Win 8 "Uhhh...you should wait until you have something touch enabled before buying it" you KNOW you're in trouble.
Lets be honest folks, its gonna bomb. YOU know this, I know this, hell everyone but MSFT seems to know this. the problem with metro is three fold: One it royally sucks the big wet titty on large screens because surprise! its a smartphone UI, its not made for that. but for desktops and laptops big screens are common, hell you can buy a 24 incher for like $140 now. Second its ENTIRE DESIGN is built around touch. What's wrong with that? How many touch desktops you own? how about touch laptops? look at the numbers, touch enabled desktops and laptops make up less than 2% of the market and that's if you don't cut out POS and kiosks, cut those out you are probably looking at less than a percent. Now this is simply not gonna change because of MSFT because touch screens are MUCH more expensive than dumb panels. last i looked a 17 inch touch was nearly $300, do you HONESTLY think the OEMs are gonna eat the difference? Finally the uber fail, people buy Windows to run WINDOWS PROGRAMS so what does MSFT do? "Hey we'll put it on ARM and call it win 8 too!"...okay, so what happens when all those folks get their Win 8 tablet home and find out windows don't actually run Windows programs? Can you say massive returns boys and girls? i thought you could.
Lets face it Metro IS nice...on ARM tablets, THAT IS ALL. But Ballmer knows developers quit giving a shit about WinMo years ago so he is trying to see if devs are stupid enough to buy the bullshit that "Hey if I develop for Metro i can have the desktop AND mobile with only one program!" while ignoring that X86 and ARM are about as different as different can be and if you don't take the strengths and weaknesses of each into consideration its just gonna suck.
TL:DR? Metro bombs, Win 7 becomes the new XP.
Actually it doesn't sound like 1984 to me, more "Brave New World" where we basically drown in info overload. Considering that now one can live their life with all the info tailor made for whatever myopic view they have and you can have damned near anything fed ex to your doorstep so you never even have to leave your cave?
"You sharpen the human appetite to the point where it can split atoms with its desire; you build egos the size of cathedrals; fiber-optically connect the world to every eager impulse; grease even the dullest dreams with these dollar-green, gold-plated fantasies, until every human becomes an aspiring emperor, becomes his own God... and where can you go from there? "
Besides wouldn't the smarter thing to do to be capturing all the carbon we belch out anyway and using it to make biofuels thus actually cutting down on the amount of greenhouse gasses? hell that might even stop the outsource hemorrhaging we've been having in this country where all the factories go to Asia where nobody gives a fuck about greenhouse gasses.
While coming up with new ways to produce power is good ultimately we need to be working on ways of bring the current damage DOWN without simply moving pollution to the left as we have been doing. Lets face it folks our 40 plus years of environmental regulations has done fuck all except kill our economy because thanks to globalism the corps can simply go poison the third world while still having access to first world markets. look at how over 10% of China's farmland is now toxic from heavy metals and other pollution. I'd say the best bet I've seen so far is biodiesel farms set up next to factories. This way we can keep the factories going while turning what would have been pollution into something we can actually use.
Got caught doing what? pointing out you're batshit? Guilty as charged. pointing out that your OS is a giant fail that has been tossed aside by virtually everyone? yep guilty. hell you can't even fucking read well enough to accurately quote someone, you think you have the skillz to do anything other than pick losers? I find that hilarious. Hell your OS can't even keep one of the oldest companies alive. Notice how they ONLY broke even after they GAVE UP? That's too fucking funny. So as a public service to all those that haven't seen what a complete miserable failure your much vaunted OS is, let me give them some fact, enjoy!
BTW if you'd like a little more food for thought, what OS was 3 of the 4 CAs running that were compromised? take a look and see. Maybe they just had configs? Surely someone with knowledge would be safe right? Guess again and its not a fluke by any means.
Now try the "hairyfeet challenge" which so far the best score is 6 out of 9, which still equals 3 pissed off customers. And as for the other poster whining that " I shouldn't take the PC back" because they got burned by a Windows only device? if I took that attitude I would be out of business in 6 months or less. Word of mouth can make or break a repair shop, and burning my customers doesn't build up good will. Ready for the "hairyfeet challenge? Here goes-
Open up three tabs in your browser. From this moment until the end of the challenge you are a virtual shopper and three of my customers shopping in the stores I'm about to name after buying a Kubuntu box from me. You must NOT do research before purchase! Consumers don't do research before a sale on anything less expensive than a car, and if you want to increase accuracy of the challenge buy the cheapest whenever possible, as consumers buy on features/price most of the time. Here is where you are shopping- In the first tab go to Walmart.com, second Bestbuy.com, third Staples.com. These are the "big three" and where my customers shop for gadgets. Next place on of each of these items in your virtual cart-An all in one printer, a Wifi USB card, and a USB TV Tuner. There are the three most asked about items here. Now go to Ubuntu forums and see if your items are supported. If you wish top increase accuracy you will not avoid brands like Lexmark as a consumer who isn't familiar with Linux would have no idea to avoid them.
How many carts were you able to get out of the store with 100% support? if you are lucky you got out with one cart, and that is if you "cheated" by avoiding Lexmark that the average consumer wouldn't remember to do even if you warned them beforehand. And THAT is why I can't support and sell Linux in my shop. Because those other two carts would be bringing their PC back to "fix" and when I couldn't do so I would have to return their money or risk losing business. Trying to bundle you will simply go bankrupt. I can add value to a PC purchased from me by virtue of the software and tweaks applied before you pick it up. The only difference between an all in one I carry and the one at Walmart is that Walmart will undercut me by 30% or more because they can buy them by the trainload and I can not. The margins on such items are so bad that short of buying them by the trainload I would end up losing money.
Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does
They don't have to, all they have to have is the most trivial of security crypto and then they can have them busted under DMCA. Also the courts have held EULAs to be valid and I'm sure that it says quite clearly in the EULA that as you point out you HAVE to have a terminal services CAL for EACH USER that accesses this. Now since i doubt Onlive has shelled out a couple of million for TS CALs the only question is how badly the courts are gonna bust them and how high the fines are gonna be. Since this is the willful breaking of copyrights, EULAs, and contracts for profit? Onlive will be lucky if they have enough money left to keep the lights on.
Like it or not you DO have the right to license software as you wish and if MSFT doesn't want to give you a cheap and easy way to do what onlive is doing its their code they can do that. just as I can't force GPL to allow me to make proprietary apps out of GPL code without buying the rights from the devs so too can MSFT say they won't let you stream services without a TS CAL.
Uhhh...you sentence doesn't parse, you DO know this correct? if you have Wine letting you run Windows on windows...how are you not buying windows EXACTLY? And while i give great credit to the Wine guys, unless you use the VERY small list of programs they've tested for (seriously there are millions of Windows programs folks) then you are really SOL unless you have some major programming and troubleshooting skillz, which just wiped out 94% of Windows users.
More likely this will be Vista all over again, only replace XP with 7. Everyone I've talked to and the over 200 customers I've shown Win 8 to now have all said "We'll stay with 7, thanks' and its already been announced that Win 7 is supported until 2020 (most likely to give businesses a choice as they won't want Win 8 which is so bling bling consumer it ain't funny) so the OEMs will pitch a fit, Ballmer will have egg all over his face AGAIN, and maybe we'll finally see the end of the sweaty monkey. i mean they recently had their most profitable quarter in history, even with a dead economy, yet their stock has gone nowhere, why? because nobody has any confidence in such a piss poor CEO. Oh and you can give it up on apple, their desktop and laptops aren't subsidized like their phones and pads are and the average person isn't gonna spend $1500+ for a machine when they can get one that is just as fast for $500.
Why does the land of fruits and nuts get to dictate what's in our Cokes? and what ever happened to personal responsibility? why must we baby proof the world? hell living causes cancer, we gonna stick warnings on babies next? Oh and before anybody says its because of the rising cost of healthcare (while ignoring the average 3000% profits the drug companies are making is what's causing the incredible explosion of cost) let me retort with this modest proposal: I'll be happy to sign an iron clad wavier that says if i get cancer the ONLY thing I'll get is plain old morphine (which is cheap) and in return you remove ALL TAXES and hand me a get out of jail free card which covers pretty much any sin law, so no more taxes on cigarettes and beer, no more throwing me in jail if I want to smoke a joint, deal? watch how quick your weaselly congress critters balk at that proposal, why? because all those taxes are going to pretty much anything BUT healthcare, its just another way they can raise taxes without the masses balking. Hell mine spent the cigarette taxes on a trauma center when there wasn't a damned thing wrong with the one we had, why? "Because the state next door had a nicer one that we did", yeah like smokers are constantly rushed to trauma centers and we are all four years old, God forbid someone has something nicer than us!
basically the whole thing stinks. no matter how much you dumb down the planet all you are gonna get is bigger dipshits. if you give ANYTHING in massive doses to mice its gonna kill them, hell even water. Maybe we should put a warning label about water too, along with a giant arrow that shows the idiots which end of the bottle the liquid comes out of, geez.
The ONLY way the Matrix trilogy could be saved is if the fan theory was true and Neo never left the Matrix. then instead of some lame electro jesus it would be a royal mindfuck where the machines, realizing that a percentage would never accept the construct, created a much worse "real world" to give them something they could believe.
Can you imagine if one of the machines popped into Zion at the end of the third and simply told them" you are suffering and living like this because this is what you wanted. You poisoned the planet so badly during the war it is simply unfit for life. We first tried to give you paradise, that failed. We then tried to give you the height of your civilization, but you rejected it, so we had only the choice of creating this "hell world" or killing you and we chose what we thought would be more humane. sorry if it doesn't make you happy but this is all you would accept, a world of suffering".
Now THAT would have been a truly awesome ending that would have left you seriously wondering about big questions like whether man could accept a true paradise. as for the prequels? I'd say Plinkett nailed it and anybody who hasn't watched these videos really needs to. he points out thing I never noticed...but my brain did, like how lazy Lucas had gotten with the "over over two shot" like on soap operas, just so he could do everything in front of green screens. he points out in great detail the incredible fail that is the prequels, how they even butcher their own mythology just so Lucas can throw more shit at the screen and do more CGI. BTW watch his review of the last indy flick and you'll find out how big a hack Lucas really is. Did you know he wanted to set indy 3 in a fricking haunted house? You listen to what his original ideas for indy and Star Wars were and you think "ZOMFG, what is he insane?" and then you realize the ONLY reason he ever made anything good was people willing to stand up and say "George that just doesn't work" but now he's so rich nobody will stand up to him and this is what happens.
U Mad Bro? don't feel bad, you just picked a loser, that's all. hell even the United States government found your bullshit to be a big pile of shite. but hey, you can tell them that they are just jealous and CLI is leet and its written by skilled programmers don't forget Linux runs on toasters LOL! BTW isn't the 6 month upgrade deathmarch coming up, AKA the great Linux "LOL I made a stinky" where you have to do the "great forum hunt" to find the fixes to make your POS run another day? better carve some time out for that. oh and just to show there is no hard feelings let me leave you with some wisdom from your "dear leader" LOL!
Actually unity fits in perfectly with your point in the second and third paragraphs which hits the nail on the head. You see Canonical isn't going with unity because it WANTS to, its doing so because it simply HAS NO CHOICE. they HAVE to have something they can sell on tablets, or netbooks, or something, just to keep the lights on. because sadly you've hit it dead bang on why the GPL is going nowhere fast and other licenses are doing better, because there is simply ZERO way to make money fixing the problems if the first guy you hand the code to can turn right around and undercut you thanks to having no R&D costs. Why the FOSS community can't seem to grasp something that is so blatantly obvious is beyond me but it has made corporations avoid GPL like the plague because it IS toxic. Ultimately TINSTAAFL and when linux needs at a minimum a good 60 million plus worth of work and polish to bring it up to what the current offerings of the competition are? Well as someone who has been trying Linux since 2000 I can say that while Windows and OSX have made some truly incredible leaps Linux on desktops has been nothing but a disappointment.
But how good is the AI and the hunting? because that's what i miss the most, actually having a decent battle where I could stalk and kill. That was what i loved about the bioshock series as i could set up a killbox with the right combo of traps and turrents so that once a bad guy came into my arena it was on, no matter which way they went i was ready. Nowadays it seems like all the developers go "meh, we'll just throw in MP" which is always a bunch of smart mouthed 14 year olds running like chickens with their heads cut off just firing at everything. No thought or strategy at all, just mindless fire. But I'll see if they have a demo, can't be as bad as the dreck that's been coming out lately and I haven't seen any real humor in a FPS since the NOLF series.
You haven't actually READ a MSFT license in awhile, have you? there is like 40+ pages to the thing where lawyers have tried to cover every single possible use case you can imagine and considering thin clients have been around for over 15 years i seriously doubt their licenses don't have clauses concerning thin clients and cloud computing. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it says quite clearly you have to buy a user CAL for every user who accesses thin clients which if they are giving this service free I seriously doubt they did.