This is exactly my thought. Yes, there are tons of users out there... but how many sites are HOSTED in the US, even those that are in different languages?
The current "internet" network model is a client-server model. It doesn't matter where the clients are - they aren't part of the "Internet" really. It matters where the servers are. That's really the "Internet."
But it requires root access to install updates (keep your system updated!) and software typically, does it not? Which means the normal user will be in the habit of typing in the root password, just like Windows users are accustomed to clicking "Yes, allow" and/or typing the Administrator password.
No, Linux users don't generally run as root on their machines, but I type the root password into Ubuntu installations very frequently.
There is little difference. One clicks "Yes" to allow something to happen, the other types in the root password. When installing malware - on purpose, because it's a smilie pack that I want to use!! it's so cute! brb! lol! - I doubt most "normal" Linux users would think twice about typing in their root password.
You actually think that nobody would start making malware/adware for Linux? Not all adware/malware is installed without knowledge of the user... downloading a smiley pack that has malware in it seems to still be fairly common. I see no reason why someone wouldn't do the same for Linux. It would just have ".rpm" instead of ".exe"
Sure, it wouldn't probably be in one of the good repositories, but since when has availability-from-reputable-sources that stopped people from downloading/installing software?
I may or may not agree with you about US-made-the-internet or whatever. However: define "most of the internet."
This seems like a very interesting idea. Most of the internet is outside the US? Does that mean most web servers are outside the US? Or most internet users? or what? citation?
Because it's bad to tell a student he isn't as smart as another student. They might get the wrong idea about themselves. It's a much better idea to keep them deceived and let them completely fail later in life and realize they were believing a lie... or something...
Seriously, there's a big difference between telling a student the truth or letting them at least SEE the truth and lying to them or pretending there's no difference. It stifles those that ARE smarter (and/or more diligent) and makes those that are not as smart (or less diligent...) think that they don't need to work hard at it, because it's not really expected of them, so who cares.
I doubt I put in 4.5 hours of "school work" per day until probably high school.... at least, what I considered "school" - grammar/vocabulary/spelling, math, science, and history. And literature, but that wasn't even really "school" to me... I read my brothers' high school literature books for fun, because they had the best selection of short stories.
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Not biased at all.
And I like how they are complaining about $1 billion in "waste." I wonder if they looked at the recent "stimulus" plan, bailout plans, and proposed health care "reform."
Neither Congress, FEMA, nor President Bush should be proud of their response in the Gulf Coast. FEMAâ(TM)s post-Katrina housing program has produced âoevast sums of waste and misspent funds,â now likely to âoetop $1 billion and perhaps much more.â
Not that waste is good, but they seem to think we should progress further towards government-control/spending, since we obviously do it so well as it is...
Isn't part of student engagement part of the student's responsibility?
It's hard to engage a student that things the whole idea of learning is stupid and worthless. Which, it seems, one would come away with if you follow the lives of celebrities, which it seems most teens do now.
Why is it it's the school's job to make sure the student is pursuing the education? When I was younger and in school, when I didn't "want" to learn, I was told that I had to... i.e., at that point, doing my homework was a matter of obedience from the perspective of "this is good for you, you just don't know it yet." Looking back, I'm glad I was made to do school even though I didn't want to and didn't necessarily see how learning history would help me (and why can't I just play computer games?).
I am fairly certain that there comes a point at which kids simply have to be made to do their work, even if they don't want to or even don't see why they should. Explanations are good, don't get me wrong... and certainly the "why" question should be answered... but I don't think all kids really want to be logically told why it makes sense. At least from my experience as a kid, what I felt/wanted to do overruled my logical "well, this will be better for me in 5 years" thinking.
And not much has changed, which is why people end up with $15k in credit card debt in their 20s from buying a BMW when they can't really afford it, I suppose. "I want it, so I'm going to get it" pervades society a lot more than "This is better for me in 5 years, so I should do that instead of do what I feel like doing." When the "we should do what the child wants" gets into education, we've got major problems.
The first month back is all review of the last year.
That's a mistake. Shouldn't students be expected to... remember things? And if they don't remember them, they can review it themselves so that they remember it. Reiteration is good, but eventually you're going to *gasp* expect the student to remember or look it up on their own and be *gasp* responsible for it.
IMO, the issue with public schools these days isn't just what is being taught or how... or how long (I don't think adding more time to be "required" to be "in school" will help anything, especially if all that is required is your physical presence); the issue is what is expected of students. From what I know, Asian students are expected to learn, it's simply required of them. If they don't, they fail. In America, "failing" a student doesn't seem to be an option, and "expectations" of a student is bad for his or her self esteem (after all, what if they - apparently "they" means "most" - can't focus? We shouldn't tell them they got a bad grade just because they didn't know the answers... [slightly sarcastic]). The failure to EXPECT a student to learn and the failure to fail a student for not learning is, IMO, the greatest reason our schools are graduating uneducated people and the curriculum gets less and less in depth.
But then, I was homeschooled. I learned more, had more time to pursue hobbies and interests (e.g., music, sports, computers, literature), and had more fun doing it. And California doesn't like it that kids are homeschooled for some reason.
Selling more product, or raising your brand's identity is the point of marketing. This does the opposite. The point of this story is that it's not just slashdot folk who are hearing about this - it's all over the mainstream media.
"All over"... not really "all over." Washington Post had it... and a bunch of tech sites like cnet. But yes, definitely more widespread than most random marketing stuff.
For a while, the "buzz on the street" was that Windows 7 is actually a decent OS, unlike Vista. But as soon as the average person sees this House Party video, they are going to be very suspicious that Windows 7 is nothing but marketing hype, and may not actually be a decent OS after all.
I disagree. I think you put too much logic in the minds of average people watching ads. If there was that much logic in the mind of the average person, then "Hey look, our beer has a picture of a blonde girl on it!" type ads wouldn't work. People do not appear to usually think when watching videos, ads, etc... otherwise most of what is "marketing" today wouldn't work, I don't think. Is this video bad for MS? I'd probably say yes. Is this going to completely trash their entire Windows 7 release? I highly doubt that. People are used to bad news stories coming out about various things. I doubt people are going to go to the store and get a Mac because they thought this marketing video was corny and stupid.
Besides, it seems like it actually *is* a decent OS, having compared Ubuntu 9.04 and Windows 7 on exact same hardware.. one laptop and one desktop. I actually prefer and at least "feel" more productive using Windows 7. It feels less cluttered and actually seems to respond and even boot faster, at least on the laptop. And "stand-by" is far faster on it. Sure, anecdotal, but most "You should try Linux, it's great, I've been..." is just as anecdotal.
Also off-topic, but I really don't think people are either logical enough or stupid enough to (1) think through this House Party video that much or (2) actually base their entire opinion on one bad video.
Yes, Win95/98 were pretty bad... and that wasn't due to adware/spyware in my case, either. It just got slower.
I've found newer versions to be pretty good. I've actually found some things actually run better, same system, with Windows 7 than Ubuntu 9.04. Of course, some things are way easier to do in a Unix based system, too, so it all depends on what I want to do... but the "windows performance is awful and you have to format it at least once a year or it will slowly grind to a halt!" is, IMO, a worse argument than the traditional "write limit" argument about SSDs.
Yes, I actually did format. I backed up everything I wanted to save and wanted to start with a completely blank drive... otherwise junk and copies of junk start accumulating...:)
"Formatting once a year" seems to have more to do with adware and spyware than anything else, in my experience. As do most "My computer is slow" complaints.
I know, I've used them. They're pretty cool, actually. But sales people do have a tendency to use Cool Sounding Words. It was the "quartz" I was referring to. Obviously, I have no idea... and I'm guessing most people have no idea... what "patented quarts convection technology" does for me. Besides "even heating." Yipee.
I've seen more expensive toasters for $150... like this one by Breville for $180.
1800-watt 4-slice toaster with intelligent one-touch auto lowering function
Push-button controls for toast, a bit more, bagel, defrost, and lift-and-look functions
LED panel illuminates according to selected setting on variable browning control
Brushed die-cast metal housing; end-of-cycle beep; 1-1/5-inch-wide slots; cord wrap
Measures 13-1/4 by 13-1/4 by 9-1/2 inches; 1-year limited warranty
Oddly enough, I've actually bought from Breville before, and appreciate the die-cast bit. But $170 toaster?
require more care and feeding than say your toaster, microwave or VCR.
People still try to sell you toasters with jargon. Like digital toasters. Or how about this for a toaster oven:
6-Slice Convection Toaster Oven: Quartz HeatingToaster oven with patented quartz convection technology for even heating.150- to 450-degree temperature control; 1/2-cubic-foot capacity; non-stick interior.Brushed stainless steel housing
I'm not sure "computer sales" is that much different from "toaster sales." Why sell them a $10 toaster when they are willing to get a $60 toaster, if you can convince them? Why sell them a $400 computer when they'll buy a $800 computer with a little convincing?
I run at least one instance of Windows on at least one of my various computers at home.
Last time I formatted: last year. Reason: wanted to.
Last time I formatted before that: probably 4 years ago. Reason: didn't want XP x64 anymore and went back to 32 bit XP.
Last time I HAD to format: no clue. A long time ago....
I really don't buy into the "if you run Windows, you're going to have to format yearly just to keep your computer at operating speed" stuff anymore than I buy into the "if you run Linux, you will never have any performance problems anymore" stuff.
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Microsoft was ahead of its time!
This is exactly my thought. Yes, there are tons of users out there... but how many sites are HOSTED in the US, even those that are in different languages?
The current "internet" network model is a client-server model. It doesn't matter where the clients are - they aren't part of the "Internet" really. It matters where the servers are. That's really the "Internet."
Humor is off topic on a geek site, you know. ;)
But it requires root access to install updates (keep your system updated!) and software typically, does it not? Which means the normal user will be in the habit of typing in the root password, just like Windows users are accustomed to clicking "Yes, allow" and/or typing the Administrator password.
No, Linux users don't generally run as root on their machines, but I type the root password into Ubuntu installations very frequently.
There is little difference. One clicks "Yes" to allow something to happen, the other types in the root password. When installing malware - on purpose, because it's a smilie pack that I want to use!! it's so cute! brb! lol! - I doubt most "normal" Linux users would think twice about typing in their root password.
You actually think that nobody would start making malware/adware for Linux? Not all adware/malware is installed without knowledge of the user... downloading a smiley pack that has malware in it seems to still be fairly common. I see no reason why someone wouldn't do the same for Linux. It would just have ".rpm" instead of ".exe"
Sure, it wouldn't probably be in one of the good repositories, but since when has availability-from-reputable-sources that stopped people from downloading/installing software?
snow news day.
Look at the Climate Change pieces which brought together the whole world and came to an agreement (sans one little country called the US)
Yeah, it's a good thing manufacturing giants like China are working so hard to protect the environment. Why can't the US follow its example!
I may or may not agree with you about US-made-the-internet or whatever. However: define "most of the internet."
This seems like a very interesting idea. Most of the internet is outside the US? Does that mean most web servers are outside the US? Or most internet users? or what? citation?
Because it's bad to tell a student he isn't as smart as another student. They might get the wrong idea about themselves. It's a much better idea to keep them deceived and let them completely fail later in life and realize they were believing a lie... or something...
Seriously, there's a big difference between telling a student the truth or letting them at least SEE the truth and lying to them or pretending there's no difference. It stifles those that ARE smarter (and/or more diligent) and makes those that are not as smart (or less diligent...) think that they don't need to work hard at it, because it's not really expected of them, so who cares.
I doubt I put in 4.5 hours of "school work" per day until probably high school.... at least, what I considered "school" - grammar/vocabulary/spelling, math, science, and history. And literature, but that wasn't even really "school" to me... I read my brothers' high school literature books for fun, because they had the best selection of short stories.
Was? I had no idea it was October 22nd already.
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ThinkProgress was voted âoeBest Liberal Blogâ in the 2006 Weblog Awards
Not biased at all.
And I like how they are complaining about $1 billion in "waste." I wonder if they looked at the recent "stimulus" plan, bailout plans, and proposed health care "reform."
Neither Congress, FEMA, nor President Bush should be proud of their response in the Gulf Coast. FEMAâ(TM)s post-Katrina housing program has produced âoevast sums of waste and misspent funds,â now likely to âoetop $1 billion and perhaps much more.â
Not that waste is good, but they seem to think we should progress further towards government-control/spending, since we obviously do it so well as it is...
Isn't part of student engagement part of the student's responsibility?
It's hard to engage a student that things the whole idea of learning is stupid and worthless. Which, it seems, one would come away with if you follow the lives of celebrities, which it seems most teens do now.
Why is it it's the school's job to make sure the student is pursuing the education? When I was younger and in school, when I didn't "want" to learn, I was told that I had to... i.e., at that point, doing my homework was a matter of obedience from the perspective of "this is good for you, you just don't know it yet." Looking back, I'm glad I was made to do school even though I didn't want to and didn't necessarily see how learning history would help me (and why can't I just play computer games?).
I am fairly certain that there comes a point at which kids simply have to be made to do their work, even if they don't want to or even don't see why they should. Explanations are good, don't get me wrong... and certainly the "why" question should be answered... but I don't think all kids really want to be logically told why it makes sense. At least from my experience as a kid, what I felt/wanted to do overruled my logical "well, this will be better for me in 5 years" thinking.
And not much has changed, which is why people end up with $15k in credit card debt in their 20s from buying a BMW when they can't really afford it, I suppose. "I want it, so I'm going to get it" pervades society a lot more than "This is better for me in 5 years, so I should do that instead of do what I feel like doing." When the "we should do what the child wants" gets into education, we've got major problems.
The first month back is all review of the last year.
That's a mistake. Shouldn't students be expected to ... remember things? And if they don't remember them, they can review it themselves so that they remember it. Reiteration is good, but eventually you're going to *gasp* expect the student to remember or look it up on their own and be *gasp* responsible for it.
IMO, the issue with public schools these days isn't just what is being taught or how... or how long (I don't think adding more time to be "required" to be "in school" will help anything, especially if all that is required is your physical presence); the issue is what is expected of students. From what I know, Asian students are expected to learn, it's simply required of them. If they don't, they fail. In America, "failing" a student doesn't seem to be an option, and "expectations" of a student is bad for his or her self esteem (after all, what if they - apparently "they" means "most" - can't focus? We shouldn't tell them they got a bad grade just because they didn't know the answers... [slightly sarcastic]). The failure to EXPECT a student to learn and the failure to fail a student for not learning is, IMO, the greatest reason our schools are graduating uneducated people and the curriculum gets less and less in depth.
But then, I was homeschooled. I learned more, had more time to pursue hobbies and interests (e.g., music, sports, computers, literature), and had more fun doing it. And California doesn't like it that kids are homeschooled for some reason.
As a side note, most of us probably think that "real-time traffic monitoring application" refers to internet traffic.
Obviously this is OT, but ... wouldn't the context of an iPhone imply road traffic monitoring not network? hehe.
Selling more product, or raising your brand's identity is the point of marketing. This does the opposite. The point of this story is that it's not just slashdot folk who are hearing about this - it's all over the mainstream media.
"All over" ... not really "all over." Washington Post had it... and a bunch of tech sites like cnet. But yes, definitely more widespread than most random marketing stuff.
For a while, the "buzz on the street" was that Windows 7 is actually a decent OS, unlike Vista. But as soon as the average person sees this House Party video, they are going to be very suspicious that Windows 7 is nothing but marketing hype, and may not actually be a decent OS after all.
I disagree. I think you put too much logic in the minds of average people watching ads. If there was that much logic in the mind of the average person, then "Hey look, our beer has a picture of a blonde girl on it!" type ads wouldn't work. People do not appear to usually think when watching videos, ads, etc... otherwise most of what is "marketing" today wouldn't work, I don't think. Is this video bad for MS? I'd probably say yes. Is this going to completely trash their entire Windows 7 release? I highly doubt that. People are used to bad news stories coming out about various things. I doubt people are going to go to the store and get a Mac because they thought this marketing video was corny and stupid.
Besides, it seems like it actually *is* a decent OS, having compared Ubuntu 9.04 and Windows 7 on exact same hardware.. one laptop and one desktop. I actually prefer and at least "feel" more productive using Windows 7. It feels less cluttered and actually seems to respond and even boot faster, at least on the laptop. And "stand-by" is far faster on it. Sure, anecdotal, but most "You should try Linux, it's great, I've been..." is just as anecdotal.
Also off-topic, but I really don't think people are either logical enough or stupid enough to (1) think through this House Party video that much or (2) actually base their entire opinion on one bad video.
Google makes it easy to extract your data and put it somewhere else.
Usually.
Wow, Microsoft.... Just, wow...
It got attention. Isn't that the point of marketing?
And I dare say MS wasn't expecting to convert slashdot posters with usernames like "ihatewinXP" to using Windows 7 with these ads... :)
Yes, Win95/98 were pretty bad... and that wasn't due to adware/spyware in my case, either. It just got slower.
I've found newer versions to be pretty good. I've actually found some things actually run better, same system, with Windows 7 than Ubuntu 9.04. Of course, some things are way easier to do in a Unix based system, too, so it all depends on what I want to do... but the "windows performance is awful and you have to format it at least once a year or it will slowly grind to a halt!" is, IMO, a worse argument than the traditional "write limit" argument about SSDs.
You are correct. I tried it fairly early on and late 2006 dropped it. So, three years. My mistake. I thought it was 2011 already! ;)
Yes, I actually did format. I backed up everything I wanted to save and wanted to start with a completely blank drive... otherwise junk and copies of junk start accumulating... :)
"Formatting once a year" seems to have more to do with adware and spyware than anything else, in my experience. As do most "My computer is slow" complaints.
I know, I've used them. They're pretty cool, actually. But sales people do have a tendency to use Cool Sounding Words. It was the "quartz" I was referring to. Obviously, I have no idea ... and I'm guessing most people have no idea ... what "patented quarts convection technology" does for me. Besides "even heating." Yipee.
I've seen more expensive toasters for $150... like this one by Breville for $180.
Oddly enough, I've actually bought from Breville before, and appreciate the die-cast bit. But $170 toaster?
require more care and feeding than say your toaster, microwave or VCR.
People still try to sell you toasters with jargon. Like digital toasters. Or how about this for a toaster oven:
6-Slice Convection Toaster Oven: Quartz HeatingToaster oven with patented quartz convection technology for even heating.150- to 450-degree temperature control; 1/2-cubic-foot capacity; non-stick interior.Brushed stainless steel housing
I'm not sure "computer sales" is that much different from "toaster sales." Why sell them a $10 toaster when they are willing to get a $60 toaster, if you can convince them? Why sell them a $400 computer when they'll buy a $800 computer with a little convincing?
I run at least one instance of Windows on at least one of my various computers at home.
Last time I formatted: last year. Reason: wanted to.
Last time I formatted before that: probably 4 years ago. Reason: didn't want XP x64 anymore and went back to 32 bit XP.
Last time I HAD to format: no clue. A long time ago....
I really don't buy into the "if you run Windows, you're going to have to format yearly just to keep your computer at operating speed" stuff anymore than I buy into the "if you run Linux, you will never have any performance problems anymore" stuff.
that's cool, your BSOD also pushes preview/submit automatically. :)