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Wireless Network Modded To See Through Walls
KentuckyFC writes "The way radio signals vary in a wireless network can reveal the movement of people behind closed doors, say researchers who have developed a technique called variance-based radio tomographic imaging which processes wireless signals to peer through walls. They've tested the idea with a 34-node wireless network using the IEEE 802.15.4 wireless protocol (the personal area network protocol employed by home automation services such as ZigBee). The researchers say that such a network could be easily distributed by the police or military wanting to determine what's going on inside a building. But such a network, which uses cheap off-the-shelf components, might also be easily deployed by your neighbor or anybody else wanting to monitor movements in your home."
wanting to determine what's going on inside a building.
Now when teens want to sneak out at night, they can easily see thru walls if their parents are sleeping!
Went straight for the "everyone is spying on me!" ploy a little quick there. Seriously, if anything my neighbors request to see LESS of my movements. This may be due to the fact that I have a clear shower curtain and my bathroom doors lines up to a big bay window facing the road...took me two months to realize that one.
Looks like it is time to get hold of some Aluminum Oxide paint.
Solution - Anti-wi-fi paint offers security:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8279549.stm
What with three wireless hubs, an RFID scanner, and half-a-dozen Bluetooth devices always on, I'm pretty sure I'm already casting EMF shadows on my walls.
Been seeing some really big spiders, too...
Orwell: "In a Time of Universal Deceit, telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act"
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/30/1534202/Using-Aluminum-Oxide-Paint-To-Secure-Wi-Fi?art_pos=19
Step 1:Paint your house with it.
Step 2: Install a Faraday cage in the dungeon *ahem* basement.
Step 3: ??????
Step 4: Privacy!!!!
"It's ok, I'm completely secure as long as my iron is off"
I have already seen this being deployed by the Blue Thunder helicopter. Way back in the 80s.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
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Horrible, a piece of technology could be abused if used in a certain way by evil and nefarious bad guys. We'll have to ban this wireless technology just in case they're out to get us. Breakout the crowbars, put on the night vision goggles, prep the bolt cutters for backup and defend yourself with the glass cutter before they break in. Tinfoil hats to the rescue!
Sounds like another vote for that new aluminum oxide radio signal killing paint.
Now you need not only a battering ram proof doors and acrylic windows, but also lead in your walls.
Terribly thin floors & cielings mean that I can monitor where my upstairs neighbor is and what he is doing at all times.
Of course my neighbors can monitor when I have sex and how good it is, but I kind of get off on that anyway...
Didn't Batman have some goggles that work like this in The Dark Knight?
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
This sounds like a job for... Aluminum Oxide Paint!
What do you mean they cut the power? How can they cut the power, man? They're animals!
I have some same kind of experiences too. I live in 16th floor and theres huge window out of the living room. It's a nice view out, but theres other tall building nearly too and you can nicely see inside each other apartments.
Being the comfortable guy that I am, I do however like to spend my time naked while at home (and while posting to slashdot too). They do not need a device to see me; one of the curtains is broken, so theres nothing I can do about it.
I see The Dark Knight movie had it wrong!
I'm more worried about robbers. Lucky for me I have a huge train set and a life size cut out of Michael Jordan to fool them with.
Get back to me when it can see tits....
"But such a network, which uses cheap off-the-shelf components, might also be easily deployed by your neighbor or anybody else wanting to monitor movements in your home." They make it sound as if someone's likely to spy on the readers of the article. But given the Slashdot population, isn't it more likely to be the other way around?
Personally, I think I'll set up a Van DeGraff generator. Really adds to the mad scientist lair effect too.
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Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh said that the U.S. military had developed a secret new technology for use in urban warfare. He said the technology was revolutionary, equivalent to the first time tanks were deployed on the battlefield. From what I remember, there was speculation that Hersh had learned that the military could now see through walls.
They do not need a device to see me; one of the curtains is broken, so theres nothing I can do about it.
Presuming you rent, take it to management. Hopefully they will care enough to keep the apartment in good condition (I know that's a big if). If you own, get off your duff and fix it, just like you would fix your computer if something went wrong.
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..now they can really prosecute people for sodomy.
Up, down, up, down, what the heck are they doing?
You owe me a new mind's eye, I had to poke it out to get rid of that mental image.
the architect who designed my home put a floor to ceiling window RIGHT NEXT TO THE TOILET. I applied privacy film to the glass, and keep the shade down, and the lights off... no, I'm not worried about my neighbors using wifi to monitor my movements...
More music, fewer hits
It's called a window.
This should solve any peeping Tom/Big Bro Cop issues we have. Get out your paintbrush, ladder, and overalls...
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What, did you shower with your eyes closed?
How do you not realize that you can see the road from the shower if people can see in the shower from the road?
Question everything
That's ambitious but shoudl they ge ttheir system to the point where it can be used like this it raises another problem: the issue of privacy.
Good job!
"We envision a building imaging scenario similar to the following. Emergency responders, military forces, or police arrive at a scene where entry into a building is potentially dangerous. ... The nodes immediately form a network and self-localize, perhaps using information about the size and shape of the building from a database (eg Google maps) and some known-location coordinates (eg using GPS).
Anyone remember http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_the_Chinese_embassy_in_Belgrade?
Oops! Map was wrong and we are in the wrong house!
1331461 is only semiprime *sigh* Alas - I am just short of 1337.
Step 1 Paint your house with iy.
Step 2: Install a Faraday cage in the basement.
Some folks step out into the light and air.
Which means they'll want WiFi access on the porch, the back yard - the patio and the sundeck.
You can get xbee-equipped computers (mostly with pics, avrs, basic stamps, etc) for super cheap, like three for a bill. I'm considering them for a remote monitoring and control application where wifi is overkill in some ways and inadequate in others (line of sight issues.) Current xbee modules all seem to support mesh networking, which is really the big draw to me of the protocol itself here, or at least the most readily available implementation. Being able to put out a sensor net and get a sort of meta-sense out of it would be all the more exciting. I'm sure the same thought has occurred to everyone, of course. This seems like the kind of thing that would give the [para]military types a massive hard-on given that they're already playing with the idea of gigantic numbers of drones and communications devices scattered across the battlefields of tomorrow... and our homes and cities.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I just thought of something... What if the company who developed the paint had this story ready (bribing of researchers) to release right after they announced their paint. Instant interest/sales increase...stroke of genius!
"It's ok, I'm completely secure as long as my iron is off"
Don't tell UK government about it.
So that's what that looks like! I never knew what that sound was before.
by "interrogating" this volume of space with many signals, picked up by multiple receivers, it is possible to build up a picture of the movement within it.
As I understand, the researchers used 34 receivers. You will need a whole lot of receivers. More than you might want to buy and maintain to offer you what is at best a poor resolution of moving things beyond walls.
Discerning the physical location and movement of an object with radio waves, what can we call such a thing?
Ahh, yes, Radar...
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spend my time naked while at home (and while posting to slashdot too).
or worse, while following links in Slashdot... But wouldn't that be as shocking even if you were fully dressed?
"That's because you're facing the rock, Caboose"
...I still think measuring microchanges in air density is the way to go!
Hmmm... where can I buy some cans of Aluminum Oxide paint?
Although this thing idea is neat, there is an Israeli company that is currently selling RF tech to do the same thing. It comes in a package the size of a suitcase, and can be deployed without having to put transmitters/receivers all over the place. Check it out.
I actually applied to work for that company but wasn't smart enough. Blasted Israelis and their blasted smarter-than-me-ness.
The image in the article isn't really good. If you want to see a demonstration of what they did in real time, it's here.
Maybe he only showers every two months?
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Another advantage of living in the country.
If someone is within 1 km of my house (and I doubt this system has that kind of range) the dogs and various livestock alert me WAY before that person can see my movements. And those movements will be important to that person at this point. Especially the "cocking the shotgun" movement.
Check out their demonstration videos at http://span.ece.utah.edu/radio-tomographic-imaging.
I was fortunate enough to see the demo at Mobicom last year. It's a really neat application, even if the math is nothing new.
Does this mean that a cracker could load my router with software and use it to spy on me?
They just reinvented RADAR for pity's sake! What is 802.xx? 2-5GHZ Microwave frequencies! It's rather like reinventing the wheel, only this time they used millimeter band, low powered microwaves to do it with. Hooray they are able to use it as a poor man's license-free RADAR system, I'll give them credit for that.
First rule of holes; When in one, stop digging.
... wherein the Supreme Court (including Scalia, amazingly) held that peering into homes using equipment that was not available in common use by the layperson was within the bounds of the 4th amendment, and therefore requires a search warrant.
Careful, this is Slashdot, any mention of working instances of "windows" will get you modded down and flamed.
I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
.....Ninja's will give up their traditional black garb, to be replaced by WiFi transparent meta materials.
Looks like I'll need a tinfoil suit as well!
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Just this post from yesterday's Slashdot will beat this kind of cheap technology.
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/30/1534202/Using-Aluminum-Oxide-Paint-To-Secure-Wi-Fi
I thought your place got sold to Ross.
Anything can be found funny, from a certain point of view.
The trick is to imagine the poster as a hot 19 year old chick, who refers to herself as a guy because she's a lesbian.
Is 1563649 a prime number?
showering? we all no nobody showers especially computer people....
If anybody sneezes my laptop notifies me by disconnecting form the network.
IranAir Flight 655 never forget!
Although if they own the other tall buildings they might consider the rentability factor after too many people look out their window at the wrong time.
You know, for the Halloween party -- that's why they're dressed as Cats and Darth Vader (but what's with that hotpink saber)?
Whew! Imagine the fun the neighbours could have watching which room you're in: "They're watching TV, they're watching TV, they've put the the kettle on, they're watching TV...." I'm sure it will be worth the effort of setting up 32 receivers and a suitable transmitter and calibrating it - all so the neighbours can work out which room I'm in. The winter evenings are going to just fly by.....
Unicorn Setu. "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines".
Your neighbors are stealing your cable porn channel? Also, perhaps you should also use some lubricant so that your neighbors can't hear you masturbate
Maybe the architect was one of those Hobo/hindus that can shit whenever he wants, like how they do on National Geographic and Feed The Children. At least they're using casted molten sand (glass) instead of shanty wood and beancans for his bathroom.
I solemnly swear that I am up to no good!
"Of course my neighbors can monitor when I have sex and how good it is,"
Those IBM Model Ms ARE rather loud...
"This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
I'm sure this'd be just great for door-to-door salespeople, door-to-door petition-signature-collectors, bill collectors, your ex-girlfriend, thieves wanting to safely break in to your house and take your stuff, and a host of other people who have no damn business knowing if you are *really* at home or not.
Forget the tin-foil hat; better line your *walls and ceilings* with tin-foil.
Interesting implication that, while your neighbours shouldn't be monitoring what you're doing inside your own house, it's perfectly acceptable for the police and the army to be watching you in this way.
Picard: Mr. Data, do we have a tomographic imaging scanner onboard? Data: Yes, sir.
This concept was in Cory Doctorow's Someone Comes To Town, Someone Leaves Town. A mesh network was set up throughout the city. People were encouraged to use & extend it for free. Eventually the protagonist used it to monitor someone during a foot chase around the neighborhood. Good stuff.
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