"While the evidence, to date, doesn't seem to support the claims of the radical green weenies, there MAY BE some validity to their claims.
So, I'm willing to put all those 'scientists' into a room, let them go head to head, and start separating the wheat from the chaff."
Frankly, these two phrases read like a crudely delivered poison pill. The purpose of my saying so, is simply that "scientists" generally have a talent for arriving at well reasoned conclusions all by themselves. This does not make them "radical green weenies" nor does it suggest that adding big business, lawyers, and politicians into the mix will make it any easier to "separate the wheat from the chaff", in fact, I'd argue that that is exactly when things began getting muddled.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty in judging the above comment, but of all the involved parties I feel it is the scientists that have the greatest professional interest in the truth and the least to gain from lying (that is if there weren't hordes of interested parties throwing bags of gold around).
And that's the real point, scientists have already formed a general consensus and made it formal. This polito-legal grandstanding only serves to incentivise more businessmen and politicians to the corruption of science.
I suppose, at the end of the day it is fair for business to ask that man's contribution to global warming be legally ratified before they are subjected to damages and it is probably fair for politicians to represent the cases of their constituents for either side. But if I were to say "the rightwing nut-tards and wallstreet goons are attacking science again, but maybe they have a point...", I wouldn't expect anyone to think it was well said.
It's a compromising view and for that, I wouldn't attack it directly, but it is a backhanded comment and there's an indignity in accepting it at face value.
Not really. When scientific consensus provides results that you don't agree with, you DON'T go to court and sue for a reality that supports your business model. Sorry.
Scientists battling "head to head" is what brought us here, business butting heads with science is what brings us to court.
I was thinking it should be put on a sling. A sling bot, then even at five pounds it should get some decent distance. Bonus, if you can hit an enemy combatant with it!
The problem is that this is not how you run a business. This is trolling for fun and profit. There's nothing stopping them from sniping your next transaction, unless you quit while you're ahead.
I got an old CF-27 toughbook this summer for less than $200. It's still just as tough as I would've expected and the older processor isn't as bothersome as I had expected. The battery life doesn't quite hold up to a full movie, but it's still handy to throw in the tool bag or take camping.
At first I thought it might be a good computer for the kids, but I realized how horrible it could be if they got into a fight over it and accidentally bonked the other. Maybe when they're old enough for real kid sized hammers and saws.
Furthermore you've taken to attacking my use of language rather than discrediting the purpose of my logic. You seem to be, much more of the pink unicorn believer with your drifting intellectual meanderings which, seem to support your ideals, because you say so.
Open source licensing is one of the most innovative ideas to come out of computers in a long time. Hell it's common place to use copyright to make sure other people can't use something, using copyright to make sure they CAN, however, practically flies in the face of the concept so much so that many people originally didn't believe it would hold up in court.
"You have a really short attention span, don't you?"
It's called disrespect.
Innovations:
Foss licensing package management 3d desktop tabbed browsing proper user priviledges (innovation != invention. Windows XP ate shit on this one for years) Modular build operating systems (windows 7 is copying this) image based deployment on CD/DVD (windows vista copied this one, linux had it through mondo and others for a while) an OS that supports more than three file systems
hell, for looser definitions of innovation you can go here.
even more to the point is the fact that you don't have to be original to be innovative. therefore firefox's use of tabs was innovative, while windows riffing the bsd (open source btw) network stack was not. You got your fucking argument backwards, hell you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.
How about image based deployment, like the software package Mondo provides. Hasn't Linux included image based deployment for quite a bit longer than Windows, which only just got it in Vista?
"I have been able to refute every single argument you've brought forward with easily verifiable facts. "
Um, no you didn't. You haven't done anything to prove that the original post wasn't flamebait. In fact, I do beleive this is a flamewar. Now, since you're so well researched and worldly on this subject. Give me ten ways that Open source software *has* innovated.
Yea, if you're reimaging off of the install disk this is the best way to go. Automate the darn thing, leave it unattended, forget about entering license keys, or clicking "next" a thousand times. Drop the disc in and hang with your parents while you're there.
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"While the evidence, to date, doesn't seem to support the claims of the radical green weenies, there MAY BE some validity to their claims.
So, I'm willing to put all those 'scientists' into a room, let them go head to head, and start separating the wheat from the chaff."
Frankly, these two phrases read like a crudely delivered poison pill. The purpose of my saying so, is simply that "scientists" generally have a talent for arriving at well reasoned conclusions all by themselves. This does not make them "radical green weenies" nor does it suggest that adding big business, lawyers, and politicians into the mix will make it any easier to "separate the wheat from the chaff", in fact, I'd argue that that is exactly when things began getting muddled.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty in judging the above comment, but of all the involved parties I feel it is the scientists that have the greatest professional interest in the truth and the least to gain from lying (that is if there weren't hordes of interested parties throwing bags of gold around).
And that's the real point, scientists have already formed a general consensus and made it formal. This polito-legal grandstanding only serves to incentivise more businessmen and politicians to the corruption of science.
I suppose, at the end of the day it is fair for business to ask that man's contribution to global warming be legally ratified before they are subjected to damages and it is probably fair for politicians to represent the cases of their constituents for either side. But if I were to say "the rightwing nut-tards and wallstreet goons are attacking science again, but maybe they have a point...", I wouldn't expect anyone to think it was well said.
It's a compromising view and for that, I wouldn't attack it directly, but it is a backhanded comment and there's an indignity in accepting it at face value.
Comedians reporting the news are a 100 times more useful than spin doctors.
NO, Fox news actually sued for the right to NOT be credible.
http://ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasespin_blogger_files/fox_news_gets_okay_to_misinform_public.html
they are the leaders of shitbag journalism.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177380,00.html
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27509
Not really. When scientific consensus provides results that you don't agree with, you DON'T go to court and sue for a reality that supports your business model. Sorry.
Scientists battling "head to head" is what brought us here, business butting heads with science is what brings us to court.
yea, is there some sort of link exchange though? He's following 1,163.
I was thinking it should be put on a sling. A sling bot, then even at five pounds it should get some decent distance. Bonus, if you can hit an enemy combatant with it!
The problem is that this is not how you run a business. This is trolling for fun and profit. There's nothing stopping them from sniping your next transaction, unless you quit while you're ahead.
somewhere around here I saw a sig regarding nerd rage...
indeed!
What if that one technician is Binese?
So we can blame this on microsoft right? :D
I got an old CF-27 toughbook this summer for less than $200. It's still just as tough as I would've expected and the older processor isn't as bothersome as I had expected. The battery life doesn't quite hold up to a full movie, but it's still handy to throw in the tool bag or take camping.
At first I thought it might be a good computer for the kids, but I realized how horrible it could be if they got into a fight over it and accidentally bonked the other. Maybe when they're old enough for real kid sized hammers and saws.
Maybe, the customers are the peer review and that's why there's all the revisions.
Seems an awful lot like the software industry...
Looks like the only reason to set this to 0 would have been to run wine. For support of 16bit windows apps.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
http://www.linuxplanet.org/blogs/?cat=408
http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0907.2/01466.html
http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0907.2/00715.html
http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2009-07/msg08106.html
Yea, I'm not dude, but I'll give it a go.
Your definition of a Christian God, which is existence, yet lacks evil; does not explain the existence of evil.
Um, my sis is a microbio and that is exactly her thinking on the matter.
Furthermore you've taken to attacking my use of language rather than discrediting the purpose of my logic. You seem to be, much more of the pink unicorn believer with your drifting intellectual meanderings which, seem to support your ideals, because you say so.
"adult discussions."
Yah, let me know when you're capable of having one.
Open source licensing is one of the most innovative ideas to come out of computers in a long time. Hell it's common place to use copyright to make sure other people can't use something, using copyright to make sure they CAN, however, practically flies in the face of the concept so much so that many people originally didn't believe it would hold up in court.
"You have a really short attention span, don't you?"
It's called disrespect.
Innovations:
Foss licensing
package management
3d desktop
tabbed browsing
proper user priviledges (innovation != invention. Windows XP ate shit on this one for years)
Modular build operating systems (windows 7 is copying this)
image based deployment on CD/DVD (windows vista copied this one, linux had it through mondo and others for a while)
an OS that supports more than three file systems
hell, for looser definitions of innovation you can go here.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=great_linux_innovations_2008&num=1
even more to the point is the fact that you don't have to be original to be innovative. therefore firefox's use of tabs was innovative, while windows riffing the bsd (open source btw) network stack was not. You got your fucking argument backwards, hell you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.
How about image based deployment, like the software package Mondo provides. Hasn't Linux included image based deployment for quite a bit longer than Windows, which only just got it in Vista?
"I have been able to refute every single argument you've brought forward with easily verifiable facts. "
Um, no you didn't. You haven't done anything to prove that the original post wasn't flamebait. In fact, I do beleive this is a flamewar. Now, since you're so well researched and worldly on this subject. Give me ten ways that Open source software *has* innovated.
Yea, if you're reimaging off of the install disk this is the best way to go. Automate the darn thing, leave it unattended, forget about entering license keys, or clicking "next" a thousand times. Drop the disc in and hang with your parents while you're there.
http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/12/11/13-antivirus-rescue-cds-software-compared-in-search-for-the-best-rescue-disk/
Meh, there's a comparison of boot discs. Looks like the best by this eval is the Kaspersky rescue disc, but Avira runs a close second.
I find that believable, Kaspersky is a great AV program, I highly recommend it.
"FWIW if you can't boot your system at all one of the guys from *the* MBAM *forums* suggests Avira "
Sorry, had to fix that.