Then you, as someone that knows databases and has used MySQL without issue, trusts the hype and then there's no reason for you not to say that MySQL is a decent database. Making you look like an ass, because the reality of the situation is that MySQL is/was so damned immature that it's hard to believe. I've studied MySQL a little more in depth and I think you can set things up (mostly) properly, but the default/recommended install is terrible and has been for years. I wouldn't discredit someone that was maybe MySQL certified AND understands the nature of the beast, but I would be very leery of anyone's opinion whose primary function isn't as a DBA.
It does speak volumes about MySQL's history, though. The things he lists are are the reasons why MySQL is still compared with M$ Access. They are valid points, because MySQL as a company has a sordid past, as far as presenting something that resembles modern database theory. I'm not saying I don't appreciate MySQL, I'm just say that I thoroughly understand the frustrations. MySQL has been presented as an off the shelf enterprise contendor for years and that's only begining to resemble fact.
For context, here's the first sentance of the article.
It was bound to happen: just as the Internet was settling into its role as haven for videos about car crashes, Britney Spears and teenage confessions, people had to come along to ruin it all by trying to be serious.
Googled him after I replied. I don't think it's that farfetched to think that one of these gets to slash and/or digg, from slash/digg to youtube, youtube to myspace, and bingo we've got the seething drooling masses being incredulously idiotic in public forum at someone's expense. Course you're probably right, 99% of the time people will not pay attention to what they don't understand.
You really don't understand do you? It's not the bridge between "rant" and "bashing". It's your using heresay as a lead in as an authoritative source. You discounted unity as a troll, when you had absolutely no basis to do so. All you had on your hands was an account of trolling that happened in a thread you haven't bothered to read. Maybe I ought to run around calling you a thief after you tell me a story of being wrongfully accused of thievery.
That's true, but Mac seems more transitional to me than anything, I think they understand that they cannot fight against OSS forever. I think they would have a lot to gain by implementing new OSS technologies.
Unity was offering well reasoned opinions based on his experiences in web development. Others were unjustly attacking him, I started bashing M$ and you weren't there.
Frankly, OSS doesn't have the market penetration, effectively the only companies that can compete with Adobe are MS and maybe Apple, because they can tie things in with the OS or ipod/zune. OSS will not gain any traction without a large installed base, maybe firefox would be helpful there, but most developers will not target 25% of the market exclusively.
Exactly, no one, especially OSS wants them to own the market. Every move MS makes is intended to hurt and vanquish the competition and MS considers everything competition. As bad as Adobe is, they are "friendly" to Linux, MS on the other hand is thoroughly predatory. Personally, I don't understand why people would want another MS format on their Linux boxen, but I don't blame them for being agitated with MS, as Adobe has recently renewed interest in their Linux support.
If someone pays me to build them a house out of shit, then sure for the right price yea I'll do it.
But, once I have my new found shitbuilder skills I'm not really going to go advertising it in the paper, unless shithouses (ignore the pun) are popular. For that matter I'm not going to invest in shitbuilder tools unless I specifically get a job working with shit.
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Then you, as someone that knows databases and has used MySQL without issue, trusts the hype and then there's no reason for you not to say that MySQL is a decent database. Making you look like an ass, because the reality of the situation is that MySQL is/was so damned immature that it's hard to believe. I've studied MySQL a little more in depth and I think you can set things up (mostly) properly, but the default/recommended install is terrible and has been for years. I wouldn't discredit someone that was maybe MySQL certified AND understands the nature of the beast, but I would be very leery of anyone's opinion whose primary function isn't as a DBA.
Hey! I whine about my life on myspace, around here I just complain about Microsoft! Take it back!
It does speak volumes about MySQL's history, though. The things he lists are are the reasons why MySQL is still compared with M$ Access. They are valid points, because MySQL as a company has a sordid past, as far as presenting something that resembles modern database theory. I'm not saying I don't appreciate MySQL, I'm just say that I thoroughly understand the frustrations. MySQL has been presented as an off the shelf enterprise contendor for years and that's only begining to resemble fact.
For context, here's the first sentance of the article.
It was bound to happen: just as the Internet was settling into its role as haven for videos about car crashes, Britney Spears and teenage confessions, people had to come along to ruin it all by trying to be serious.Googled him after I replied. I don't think it's that farfetched to think that one of these gets to slash and/or digg, from slash/digg to youtube, youtube to myspace, and bingo we've got the seething drooling masses being incredulously idiotic in public forum at someone's expense. Course you're probably right, 99% of the time people will not pay attention to what they don't understand.
Who is Sanjaya?
...put tapes of their speeches and panel discussions online...So, these experts get to watch the drooling masses compare their work with the last episode of American Idol.
You really don't understand do you? It's not the bridge between "rant" and "bashing". It's your using heresay as a lead in as an authoritative source. You discounted unity as a troll, when you had absolutely no basis to do so. All you had on your hands was an account of trolling that happened in a thread you haven't bothered to read. Maybe I ought to run around calling you a thief after you tell me a story of being wrongfully accused of thievery.
That's true, but Mac seems more transitional to me than anything, I think they understand that they cannot fight against OSS forever. I think they would have a lot to gain by implementing new OSS technologies.
Say something intelligent and I'll take you off my foes list.
THEY???!!! That's your qualifier? ROFLMAO!!!
Ok, I promise I'll try to quit laughing at you, but if you know nothing about OSS do you really think you're in a place to argue about it?
Right.
So, you were going for insightful here? Sorry, I didn't realize you had eaten paint chips as a child.
PPS, I wasn't always like this, I'm just sick of wintrolls.
Yea, well as long as your just venting, I figured I'd add little to nothing to the conversation also. PS Thank you!
UPDATE: It worked!!!
Quick, tag this article "haha" http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/18/151221 6
If you weren't there then how do you know he was bashing microsoft? There is a difference between bashing and analysis right?
Apple is largely Open Source http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html
I don't, I blame microsoft for single handedly shitting on the entire software industry. Where have you been?
Unity was offering well reasoned opinions based on his experiences in web development. Others were unjustly attacking him, I started bashing M$ and you weren't there.
Frankly, OSS doesn't have the market penetration, effectively the only companies that can compete with Adobe are MS and maybe Apple, because they can tie things in with the OS or ipod/zune. OSS will not gain any traction without a large installed base, maybe firefox would be helpful there, but most developers will not target 25% of the market exclusively.
...they sit back and lose the market.Exactly, no one, especially OSS wants them to own the market. Every move MS makes is intended to hurt and vanquish the competition and MS considers everything competition. As bad as Adobe is, they are "friendly" to Linux, MS on the other hand is thoroughly predatory. Personally, I don't understand why people would want another MS format on their Linux boxen, but I don't blame them for being agitated with MS, as Adobe has recently renewed interest in their Linux support.
It's ok unity, I knew you were right.
Um, last time, this time and next time?
You guys are funny, here's my analogy.
If someone pays me to build them a house out of shit, then sure for the right price yea I'll do it.
But, once I have my new found shitbuilder skills I'm not really going to go advertising it in the paper, unless shithouses (ignore the pun) are popular. For that matter I'm not going to invest in shitbuilder tools unless I specifically get a job working with shit.