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Online Video Suddenly Gets Brainy
David Kesmodel writes "Several online-video efforts are under way that offer a more cerebral alternative to the typical fare seen on the Web, the Wall Street Journal reports. The ambitious Fora.tv, for example, intends to establish relations with all of the lecture series from the nation's scores of think tanks, civic groups, bookstores and the like, and then put tapes of their speeches and panel discussions online in an easily searchable fashion."
If by "better" you mean "more flash ads."
...put tapes of their speeches and panel discussions online...So, these experts get to watch the drooling masses compare their work with the last episode of American Idol.
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No one wants an online video service unless it's filled up with whiney emo kids complaining about how badly their lives suck.
Seriously, while it sounds like a good idea, implementation is everything. It'll be interesting to see how they do.
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NSFWI wonder how online video will affect cable providers.
I'm sure online web sites like CNN, MSNBC, FOX News have gauged how much of viewership they lost on cable stations with the evolution of information via their web sites.
I wonder how much online video will change this?
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Why do we need this when we have Slashdot?
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those who actually ARE interested in the world's affairs get an easier method to feed their information hunger.
but i really don't believe that anoybody, who wouldn't watch news channels and use - maybe even international - websites to stay up-to-date with what's happening, will just because of a new possibility start to be interested. you can even find some informational stuff on youtube, but as long you are not interested in this kind of things, you'll still type in "boobs" instead of "global warming".
First thing I get here is the famous "Nothing to see here, move along." message. I hope that's not going to be the default when looking for intelligent videos on the net. :-P
I'm glad to see another opportunity to enhance knowledge on the net. Seeing more free course material (as in those of MIT) and getting more info from discussions etc. might just make it more accessible for people to gain knowledge and not hang around the tv all day because they can't afford a decent education.
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MIT's Open CourseWare has online videos of undergraduate and graduate course lectures of actual math, engineering, physics professors... Many of whom are top researchers in their fields. This is about as brainy as you can get!
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For example...
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-01Physics-IFa
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... just as soon as Sanjaya gets a doctorate and a job at a think-tank.
I'm sure there'll be *some* audience crossover, but I'm guessing not much.
Unless these people plan on discussing European economic policy while dropping mentos in Diet Coke, or speculate on the future of tribal cultures in a changing political word whilst dancing to the latest incarnation of Numa Numa, I would not hold out hope to the viability of such content to mass audiences.
More power to them though.
Seems as shrill, polarizing, and with the same lack of perspective as much of the MSM. And even on the technical and science articles, we see too much of the same over-blown headlines and "cancer cures" and such. Precious little than trolling for page views, if you ask me.
some cable station actually created a news and info channel that performed as well as my use of the Internet for news? Seriously, a couple of hosts out front and a couple dozen web searchers, a few people coordinating the display of data... 30 minutes of the news Internet style without typing or clicking... hmmmmmm
No, I don't mean something stupid, but for every story I read about, I can quickly verify with a second or third source. When a new word or entity pops up I can hit Google or Wikipedia or other sites for reference quickly....
Well, not sure how it would work, but I wish news stations would take a clue from how the Internet is used.
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I, for one, welcome our intellectual webcasting overloards.
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we have had online encyclopedias, online open source books, it is only a matter of time before we get online videos that educate instead of appeal to the lower common denominator.
In the USA we have an education problem, people dropping out of high school or college or never going to college. If professors and experts want to make educational videos to stimulate the mind, go right ahead. I can enjoy that sort of video. It would be like taking a Telecourse for a college.
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Specifically that great intellect known as Onslow, who was always trying to better himself by watching Open University.
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...instead of having to be there and fall asleep in an uncomfortable chair, you can stay at your computer and fall asleep drooling on your keyboard :)
All joking aside, there are certainly a lot of people I'd like to listen to their speeches that I would not typically have access to.
With the cost of entry converging toward zero, it's not hard to cross the point where it's easier and cheaper to just do it than to worry about how to make money doing it.
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... because there's nothing like good, intellectual think tank , I always say.
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I am affiliated with the site, as I work for the manufacturer, Sonic Foundry, of the technology that creates the content that all of this is made from. But it's still way cool, and certainly the search tech is really cool, and it's really available, right now. Sweet.
..unless each video ends with the professorial type energetically lip-synching to a foreign pop-song.
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It might be nice to have some intelligent content on the web for once. I go to the top 100 videos on Google video (via sageTV) once in a while. It's disappointing that at least 80% of it is half naked 16-24 year old girls and guys getting kicked in the balls. You'd think that people would get tired of watching that stuff after a while. I know I did. It would be nice to go to a site where the content is supposed to stimulate your brain. Other sites have their uses, but I think it's kind of depressing that nobody wants to do anything that requires thinking.
Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
It's like all those niche search engines that were supposed to compete against Google. Yes, some people use them, but not as many as the niche search engine developers would have liked.
BTW, OT, my two favorite YouTube fictional series are:
"I'm glad to see another opportunity to enhance knowledge on the net. Seeing more free course material (as in those of MIT) and getting more info from discussions etc. might just make it more accessible for people to gain knowledge and not hang around the tv all day because they can't afford a decent education."
And how many people have their degrees through Download-U?
They need better web page design (or perhaps more testing against various browser configurations or web page standards).
I tried viewing their site:
- using firefox 1.5(.0.9) (the latest my Employer's IT people certify),
- with expanded fonts (for my poor aged eyes on a hi-res LCD screen)
and found it unusable.
The positions of various items are forced in such a way that the text is all overlapping and the "advanced search" box (along with several other items) is buried under the sample program selections - just for two problems.
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Not having a degree != being dumb, as is having a degree != being smart.
This is one convenient way to provide knowledge to people. Those that really want a piece of paper for proof can always do official exams.
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Before PBS there was National Educational Television, which had a miniscule audience
but there were shows that people liked. Max Morath had a show about ragtime for example.
I remember a show called "Two For Physics" which was done by a couple of Physics Professors
and very low budget, but I liked it and learned a thing or two from it.
PBS also had a show called "Mathnet". And there was "3-2-1 Contact!". Why not resurrect
some of these shows and make them available?
In theory, theory and practice are the same; in practice they're different. (Yogi Berra & A. Einstein)
"Well, not sure how it would work, but I wish news stations would take a clue from how the Internet is used."
They already did.
Will be to have people sumarize each of the online videos and dumb them down and repost their own version so that people will actually have the patience to read them because you know that the general public doesnt want to have to think for themselves
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Another example of brainier-than-usual video that isn't mentioned in TFA is bloggingheads.tv, which hosts hour-long dialogues between two experts on various issues of the day (mostly political, but sometimes they have science, religion & culture too).
Of course, since "experts on various issues of the day" tend not to be among the most attractive people in the world, and the video is just of them talking, I have no idea why they don't just do audio-only and save bandwidth. But if you've got a Mickey Kaus pin-up on you're wall, consider your day made!
Read my blog.
http://www.learner.org/.
"Will be to have people sumarize each of the online videos and dumb them down and repost their own version so that people will actually have the patience to read them because you know that the general public doesnt want to have to think for themselves"
Uh, huh. Well that would explain the low number of posts to the slashdot science stories.
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http://fora.tv/fora/showthread.php?t=889
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She teaches you the origin of a new word each week.. plus she's hot :-)
http://www.youtube.com/hotforwords
I mean, I searched for boobies and found this.
I would think video of that would be very educational. What are you guys on about? You don't think zoology is cerebral?
Liberty uber alles.
I tried searching for the name of the guy I was watching on Fora.tv and could not find it.
http://mitworld.mit.edu/
http://freescienceonline.blogspot.com/
Funny you should post this story about the educational value of the web today. I just watched a video of an Atlanta public access TV show in which the woman gives a very insightful explanation of the evils of men who are good in bed. Before online video, only the good folks of Atlanta would be able to enjoy this material. Today, you can all watch and learn by clicking this link.
Watch the video before modding me down, guys. I think you'll find it very Informative and perhaps even Insightful.
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I particularly liked Jacalyn Duffin's lecture about the history of medicine during the Rational Movement and it's relation to the scientific method in making a diagnosis.
If anyone knows of any other good webcast sites (other than the MIT open courseware project, which I already have.) please let me know.
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I attend almost every seminar from the Long Now Foundation (http://www.longnow.org), they record and post everything on their website, powered by FORA.tv; it is very nifty, each session is indexed to the word, so you can click on any word in the context and the video will jump to that particular point.
There's definitely an audience for this, and I can think of dozens of my own friends who'd be interested (some of them teachers). Academia has been waiting for a service like this to be available for some time. Right now, I get my lectures through P2P and torrents but this will be nice for stuff I don't want to keep, don't want to wait for, or can't find elsewhere.
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The Perimeter Institute has been putting its lectures online for some time now.
http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/
Now I agree that it's good to have a central location for this sort of thing, but its hardly revolutionary.
This Japanese YouTube clone (currently in closed gamma) lets viewers add their comments in the form of subtitles that scroll across the video. It's like the inanity of YouTube mixed with the inanity of 2ch. Wait, maybe this wasn't a good response to a post about online video getting brainy.
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YouTube has Brainy too.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uP9oeBCXJbA
www.timcoleman.com is a total waste of your time. Never go there.
I enjoy the Stanford CS Colloquium.
The article doesn't actually link to the subject sites, so here you are: fora.tv and ResearchChannel.
There is a pretty amazing video on FORA.tv with Will Wright from MAXIS talking about programming generative systems and showing a demo of his new game Spore. The whole clip is backed up by Brian Eno playing generativly created music. http://fora.tv/fora/showthread.php?t=451
I can find and absorb information through transcripts much faster and more reliably than by watching or listening to a lecture. The way material is presented can be enlightening or entertaining, but this is usually when the aim is entertainment rather than learning.
The most important part of an oral presentation is the post-lecture question and answer session. Oral debate does allow for rapid to and fro, though usually the thoughts presented are more shallow and half-baked than is the case for written debates. I've written more about this here.
The default "search" box only allows 16 characters. For more than 16 chars, you have to use the "Advanced search". I guess that means, for the brainiac network, use of 17 characters makes you "advanced". Woohoo.
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The article states : Suddenly,The Web Is Giving Eggheads Something to Watch. I imagine that "eggheads" a rather dumb epithet, could sometimes be applied to the very folks who designed "the web" at CERN in the first place.