I us DHCP on my BAT box and I still have a static internet-facing IP address. I'm running OpenBSD as a gateway for my home LAN, but I still use the DHCP client to grab the IP, DNS info and routing (gateway) info from the ISP, so if it ever changes I don't have to care about it.
DHCP isn't necessarily about dynamic or static IP addresses only, it's about static *configuration*, which is much more important. If your ISP isn't giving you static IPs, you should probably get on the phone and ask them why. Tell people you know to phone them too (potential customers have more weight that current customers for some ISPs, but getting even 5 seperate calls makes a local ISP sit up and pay attention to the complaint).
Of course, I have no idea what you're talking about wrt a barrier to free speech. If you want free speech, you'll have to start your own ISP, and get your own backbone connections. Hopefully, you won't be violating any agreements with the backbone providers.
Considering that there's already work being done on a v8, then yes, we know this.
This is not a flame against you personally, but I don't want to make a seperate post to this topic. Has anyone reading this website read a thing on IPv6? Almost every question I've seen here could be answered with 10-15 mintues worth of reading at the IPv6 site. If you're curious about IPv6, do some reading, it's going to be more important than any single OS or programming language in the years to come.
Here we see the real Slashdot Effect(tm). People making comments without actually reading articles... Did you notice that the words "Bill Joy" were a link to an essay?
Monsanto produces seeds that don't produce offspring, if that's the right term. It's called the terminator gene, and is patented by monsanto. If you buty their seeds, you have to go back every year to buy more (there's actualy a licensing fee you have to pay), instead of saving them like farmers usually do. If you're caught with Monsanto seed on your land, and don't have a license, they take you to court (even if it's blown onto your proerty from your neighbours farm, gotta love protecting that bottom line).
One of the huge problems with this, is Monsanto has only one strain of seeds. Places like Etiopia, where wheat (for example) seems to have origintated from, still host 80% or so of the wheat gene pool. This pool is needed for crossbreading of strains to ensure diversity, and to ensure than no one disease or parasite can destroy the whole wheat crop.
That's not good business for Monsanto, and the smaller countries and farmers are worried about what would happen if trade laws forced them to deal with Monsanto. The World Bank and the IMF put pretty tight restrictions on governmental policy for those countries who need to borrow money.
The really sad part is that all the loans to 3rd world countries could be easily forgiven by the west. We lost more in the market crash of 1989 than we would lose in forgiving these debts, and it hasn't seemed to hurt the economy to any degree.
So what's stoping us? The need and want to control to some degree 3rd world (developing) countries.
Every pair of "high profile" brand name shoes I've ever owned lasted me less than a year. I started looking around in smaller shops, skate shops and the like, and found "no-name" brands like Simple, Globe and Circa have served me far better, lasting a good two years per pair. The branding is way less ubiquitous on the shoe itself.
Only paid 80 bucks Canadian for the shoes too, as opposed to the 120 I spend on my last pair of Nike's (about 5 or 6 years ago, when the Cdn dollar was worth something).
And as a PS, talk to any skate-boarder that you know, someone who's been doing it for a while. Almost everyone I talk to says that Airwalks (shoe brand) have gone to shit ever since they got bought and started being manufactured by Nike.
A brand name might be associated with quality, but a lot of time it's an excuse for a company to package crap at an elevated price.
Katz's statement regarding the "itelligensia" is obvious meant to be inflamatory. It's a populist statement to make (given the attitude of your "regular joe" towards the university sytem these days), and Katz has absolutely no ground upon which to make it, which is not usually a requirement for him.
The prof however, made a generalization that's much more than less rational and well founded. Go check out the CS course at your local college or university, ask how many people are SF fans. Lather, rinse and repeat for any group where slashdot type readers (those with an interest in technology and the internet) group.
It's new for nerds baby, and by definition nerds usually like stuff like SF/F.
As I said, it's a matter of degree. You're safe in generalizing that NBA players like to excercise. You're less safe to say that everybody in cleveland would choose Half-Life over Q2.
And some people feel that it's the developer of the software's job to provide the materials used in learning. Not everyone wants to go through soruce code in order to learn a new tool, for most it's a huge waste of time.
However you do your learning, its still your way of doing it.
Even if it's through "getting started" type books proivded by the software company (or whomever is doing the docs for the software)?;P
Don't be lazy and want everything.
Seriously, why not? what's the logic here, that computers and programming languages *should* be hard to use, and should be a trial to learn?
especially because its entire design is propreitary and meant to make a lot of money as a 'web programming langauge' for its authors
Is this RMS under a pseudonym? A lot of people are in the programming/computer business specifically to make money, what's the problem with that, morally and philisophically?
Proprietary doesn't automatically mean crap. There's a higher level of crapulence in proprietary software, but just because you've had bad experiences (or have heard about them here, and are just playing with the pack) with closed source apps doesn't mean they'll all "junk" as you say. I had a linux FS crap out on me 2 weeks ago, should I now be assuming that every OpenSource project is going to shit on my harddrive and crash? No, I'd be an idiot to do so, as you are when you assume all closed source software is Bad(tm)
As you already know, it's all a matter of perspective. What you find to be a poor application of the word theft (or a stupid law) someone else finds to be quite important. Metallica seems to find copyright law very important. I'm willing to bet that Katz does too when it comes to his printed work. If I typset and start running off copies of Katz's or anyone else's written work for my profit (or for free), the majority of people (in the western world at least) are going to call me a thief, and rightly so.
It seems that you, just like the majority of ideological zealots here have the attitude that anything you don't agree with is stupid. This makes very little sense to me.
You think that we're morally ok when trading copyrighted materials against current laws. This infers that you don't think copyright law makes any sense. Tell this to Stallman when I go and incorporate GPL licensed code into my binary-only distribution of (insert software/app here).
None of what you describe in your post is comparable to pirating MP3s via Napster or any other medium.
Company time and resources have nothing to do with copyright issues, and the email in question (unless you broke into someone else's mailbox) falls distinctly under fair use.
If you feel that you have the moral right to trade copyrighted music via the internet, great, bully for you. You are still breaking the law and comitting theft of copyrighted material, plain and simple.
The word "theft" only loses it's meaning if you've turned off your brain, no matter how many times you bandy it about.
This is ridiculous - why haven't CD prices dropped in the last ten years? Its innovations like Napster that force the price down! Do you think prices drop on their own? They drop in response to a changing market. Napster changes the market.
Prices haven't dropped in the past 10 years because consumers are stupid, it's as simple as that. The way to force a price drop in the market is to stop buying when things become too expensive. The fact that CDs are selling means they're obiviously not too expensive. You can go on and on all you want about "poor" highschool students, but I know plenty of highschool students with part time jobs and large CD collections.
If consumers want lower prices on CDs they should stop buying them. The fact that people are still buying CDs in record number seems to indicate that prices aren't *really* too high, at least not high enough to prevent people from going out and getting the latest CD they want.
Breaking the law and violating artist's rights has nothing to do with acceptable market action. If you're too cheap or poor to buy CDs, don't, get a radio, buy them used, whatever. Citing high prices as a justification for breaking the law is idiocy.
BTW, do you mind if I come over and steal your work? I feel that market prices for whatever you do are too high. I'm just trying to have an effect on the market.
Someone, please, tell me what PHBs means! I hang out in alt.religion.kibology on a regular basis, and I thought I had the acronym game down pat. This one still messes with my brane though:P
Hate against gays, and the demonization of so-called "welfare mothers" (whose existance I'm not even sure about). The GOP, like every classic right wing party, loves to pick on the poor. They're an easy scapegoat for a mismanaged gov't and for people who don't like to pay their taxes.
I note that you're posting as an AC, so you're probably not going to read the reply, but did you actually *read* the email thead posted on DeRaadt's homepage?
http://zeus.theos.com/deraadt/coremail.html
Theo's got a "bad attitude", but from the looks of the email on that page, no worse than any of the other NetBSD founders. At least DeRaadt seems to give an honest opinion, instead of playing politics.
--sarcasm alert-- And, OH, MY, GOD! Someone in a linux/BSD forum who's rude and unfriendly to people who are flooding them. Who the fuck would think they've got the right to be rude, or curse via electronic communications.
Obviously you've never been to #linux on DALnet or EFnet.
Big brother spying on us is not neccesarily bad.. if you don't do anything wrong then u have nothing to hide, if u do something wrong.. then u obviously should not be doing it
I was going to mod this thread, but I feel I really need to reply.
With simply the volume of laws in most western countries these days, most people are doing things that are wrong every day. I can't count the number of time I've broken the little laws in this world, jaywalking, parking violations, and I'm sure I break the fire code at work at least once of twice a day. Most of things things just shouldn't be punised or even noted by some higher aithority. It would take us most of our concentration every day to follow all the laws of the land, and it would take a police several magnitudes larger than exists now (at least in my city, about 6k officers for 660k residents) to even start enforcing all the laws.
You say that Big Brother keeps us safe, and it's a good thing that we're being watched. Who's watching Big Brother? If such organizations as the CSE, CSIS, the RCMP (Candian gov't branches), the NSA, FBI etc are watching us in secret, who are they accountable to? Who do I go to complain to if I feel I have a problem with these organizations?
The biggest question though, is: Where do I go when I want privacy? Do I have to turn my house into an electronic stonghold? What happens when I don't have the money for that, do I have to live in a small town just to get away from being watched?
Giving up privacy for security, and giving up my freedom to allow someone to watch me in some Big Brother capacity is something I would never consent to, and would fight as much as I could. If the Canadian government ever stoops to such tactics I'm leaving the country.
Ok, so first it's illegal to pirate media, this makes sense. Then, it's illegal to break copyright protection measures, because this might be used to pirate DVDs (the logic used by the MPAA, even though it does't make sense). Then they sue people for even having the tools to be able to break the copyright "protection". Now, they're suing 2600 for pointing people to where the tools are for breaking the copyright "protection"?
This is insane! This is analogous to me getting thrown in jail for telling someone where my neighbor keeps his crowbar, because they might go borrow it and use it to commit a crime!
The MPAA has lost it's mind. Is it just a case of too many lawyers trying to manufacturer a need for their services, or are the media execs really that power and money hungry?
t's really amazing - you folks actually think a production studio is going to put $20 million (and that's SMALL budget!) into making a movie and that buy forking over $9.95 at T-Mart your 'buying' that production to do whatever you want with, heehee.
See, that's the wonderful thing about a free market, if they're not making a profit out of it, they can either raise the price, reduce their costs, or get out of the business. It's as simple as that.
Even us commies up here in Canada recognize basic market principles.
Yeah, and maybe for a large percentage of the computer using population out there.
Until you people realize that the majoirty of people in this planet have no interest in becoming a computer guru/expert/techinician, and don't want to have to learn anything about there computer except for how to use apps, Linux won't get anywhere on the desktop.
Have you ever actually read the BSD style licenses? You can take code from a CSD project, change it, compile it and sell it for cash, never having to release your changes.
That, is true freedom. You're not living on the programmer's good graces, in fact, the code no longer has to have anything to do with the original programmer, except for a credit for the work.
Or ask her anything else - go ahead and post your questions below.
I feel that the last question asked falls squarely under "Stuff that Matters". I'm pretty sure a good portion of the Slashdot readership agrees with me. It's completely up to the interviewee whether or not she wants to answer the question, but the rules were followed, and the fact that she didn't answer makes me wonder why she is reluctant to explain the views (political or otherwise) she holds.
Or perhaps she just doesn't read slashdot interviews and isn't aware that most people get asked "off-topic" questions.;)
The vaunted US system. I love a system where more money is spent each year on the military than on helping the poor and the sick. You could go all liberterian on me and tell me that the poor should be helping themselves or some such nonsense, but the majority or liberterians are still compasionate people. It's no excuse for the kinds of things that go on in the US. It's too bad the US has forgotten about the democratic component of thei goverment. If you don't care enough to go out and vote, you deserve to be part of the increasingly poorer and powerless middle and lower classes. Also, you folk in the US seem to fear goverments to the point of paranoia, why is it that you have this fear of governemnt, but almost a love for large corporations? Given the current state of the WTO, corporations have power bordering that of sovereign goverments. I agree, too much gov't power is bad, but so is too much corporate power or too much Big Labour(tm) power.
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Rambone, just 'cause you're a PERL zealot, did you really need to apply your +1 bonus to that post?
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DHCP isn't necessarily about dynamic or static IP addresses only, it's about static *configuration*, which is much more important. If your ISP isn't giving you static IPs, you should probably get on the phone and ask them why. Tell people you know to phone them too (potential customers have more weight that current customers for some ISPs, but getting even 5 seperate calls makes a local ISP sit up and pay attention to the complaint).
Of course, I have no idea what you're talking about wrt a barrier to free speech. If you want free speech, you'll have to start your own ISP, and get your own backbone connections. Hopefully, you won't be violating any agreements with the backbone providers.
This is not a flame against you personally, but I don't want to make a seperate post to this topic. Has anyone reading this website read a thing on IPv6? Almost every question I've seen here could be answered with 10-15 mintues worth of reading at the IPv6 site. If you're curious about IPv6, do some reading, it's going to be more important than any single OS or programming language in the years to come.
Thanks for coming out.
Well, Bill Joy seems to disagree with you, and I would tend to agree with him.
It seems that the people who actually are thinking know that the solution never resides in just the right or the left, especially at the extreme.
One of the huge problems with this, is Monsanto has only one strain of seeds. Places like Etiopia, where wheat (for example) seems to have origintated from, still host 80% or so of the wheat gene pool. This pool is needed for crossbreading of strains to ensure diversity, and to ensure than no one disease or parasite can destroy the whole wheat crop.
That's not good business for Monsanto, and the smaller countries and farmers are worried about what would happen if trade laws forced them to deal with Monsanto. The World Bank and the IMF put pretty tight restrictions on governmental policy for those countries who need to borrow money.
The really sad part is that all the loans to 3rd world countries could be easily forgiven by the west. We lost more in the market crash of 1989 than we would lose in forgiving these debts, and it hasn't seemed to hurt the economy to any degree.
So what's stoping us? The need and want to control to some degree 3rd world (developing) countries.
Every pair of "high profile" brand name shoes I've ever owned lasted me less than a year. I started looking around in smaller shops, skate shops and the like, and found "no-name" brands like Simple, Globe and Circa have served me far better, lasting a good two years per pair. The branding is way less ubiquitous on the shoe itself.
Only paid 80 bucks Canadian for the shoes too, as opposed to the 120 I spend on my last pair of Nike's (about 5 or 6 years ago, when the Cdn dollar was worth something).
And as a PS, talk to any skate-boarder that you know, someone who's been doing it for a while. Almost everyone I talk to says that Airwalks (shoe brand) have gone to shit ever since they got bought and started being manufactured by Nike.
A brand name might be associated with quality, but a lot of time it's an excuse for a company to package crap at an elevated price.
Katz's statement regarding the "itelligensia" is obvious meant to be inflamatory. It's a populist statement to make (given the attitude of your "regular joe" towards the university sytem these days), and Katz has absolutely no ground upon which to make it, which is not usually a requirement for him.
The prof however, made a generalization that's much more than less rational and well founded. Go check out the CS course at your local college or university, ask how many people are SF fans. Lather, rinse and repeat for any group where slashdot type readers (those with an interest in technology and the internet) group.
It's new for nerds baby, and by definition nerds usually like stuff like SF/F.
As I said, it's a matter of degree. You're safe in generalizing that NBA players like to excercise. You're less safe to say that everybody in cleveland would choose Half-Life over Q2.
And some people feel that it's the developer of the software's job to provide the materials used in learning. Not everyone wants to go through soruce code in order to learn a new tool, for most it's a huge waste of time.
However you do your learning, its still your way of doing it.
Even if it's through "getting started" type books proivded by the software company (or whomever is doing the docs for the software)? ;P
Don't be lazy and want everything.
Seriously, why not? what's the logic here, that computers and programming languages *should* be hard to use, and should be a trial to learn?
especially because its entire design is propreitary and meant to make a lot of money as a 'web programming langauge' for its authors
Is this RMS under a pseudonym? A lot of people are in the programming/computer business specifically to make money, what's the problem with that, morally and philisophically?
Proprietary doesn't automatically mean crap. There's a higher level of crapulence in proprietary software, but just because you've had bad experiences (or have heard about them here, and are just playing with the pack) with closed source apps doesn't mean they'll all "junk" as you say. I had a linux FS crap out on me 2 weeks ago, should I now be assuming that every OpenSource project is going to shit on my harddrive and crash? No, I'd be an idiot to do so, as you are when you assume all closed source software is Bad(tm)
It seems that you, just like the majority of ideological zealots here have the attitude that anything you don't agree with is stupid. This makes very little sense to me.
You think that we're morally ok when trading copyrighted materials against current laws. This infers that you don't think copyright law makes any sense. Tell this to Stallman when I go and incorporate GPL licensed code into my binary-only distribution of (insert software/app here).
Company time and resources have nothing to do with copyright issues, and the email in question (unless you broke into someone else's mailbox) falls distinctly under fair use.
If you feel that you have the moral right to trade copyrighted music via the internet, great, bully for you. You are still breaking the law and comitting theft of copyrighted material, plain and simple.
The word "theft" only loses it's meaning if you've turned off your brain, no matter how many times you bandy it about.
Prices haven't dropped in the past 10 years because consumers are stupid, it's as simple as that. The way to force a price drop in the market is to stop buying when things become too expensive. The fact that CDs are selling means they're obiviously not too expensive. You can go on and on all you want about "poor" highschool students, but I know plenty of highschool students with part time jobs and large CD collections.
If consumers want lower prices on CDs they should stop buying them. The fact that people are still buying CDs in record number seems to indicate that prices aren't *really* too high, at least not high enough to prevent people from going out and getting the latest CD they want.
Breaking the law and violating artist's rights has nothing to do with acceptable market action. If you're too cheap or poor to buy CDs, don't, get a radio, buy them used, whatever. Citing high prices as a justification for breaking the law is idiocy.
BTW, do you mind if I come over and steal your work? I feel that market prices for whatever you do are too high. I'm just trying to have an effect on the market.
Thanks in advance!
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Hate against gays, and the demonization of so-called "welfare mothers" (whose existance I'm not even sure about). The GOP, like every classic right wing party, loves to pick on the poor. They're an easy scapegoat for a mismanaged gov't and for people who don't like to pay their taxes.
http://zeus.theos.com/deraadt/coremail.html
Theo's got a "bad attitude", but from the looks of the email on that page, no worse than any of the other NetBSD founders. At least DeRaadt seems to give an honest opinion, instead of playing politics.
--sarcasm alert--
And, OH, MY, GOD! Someone in a linux/BSD forum who's rude and unfriendly to people who are flooding them. Who the fuck would think they've got the right to be rude, or curse via electronic communications.
Obviously you've never been to #linux on DALnet or EFnet.
I was going to mod this thread, but I feel I really need to reply.
With simply the volume of laws in most western countries these days, most people are doing things that are wrong every day. I can't count the number of time I've broken the little laws in this world, jaywalking, parking violations, and I'm sure I break the fire code at work at least once of twice a day. Most of things things just shouldn't be punised or even noted by some higher aithority. It would take us most of our concentration every day to follow all the laws of the land, and it would take a police several magnitudes larger than exists now (at least in my city, about 6k officers for 660k residents) to even start enforcing all the laws.
You say that Big Brother keeps us safe, and it's a good thing that we're being watched. Who's watching Big Brother? If such organizations as the CSE, CSIS, the RCMP (Candian gov't branches), the NSA, FBI etc are watching us in secret, who are they accountable to? Who do I go to complain to if I feel I have a problem with these organizations?
The biggest question though, is: Where do I go when I want privacy? Do I have to turn my house into an electronic stonghold? What happens when I don't have the money for that, do I have to live in a small town just to get away from being watched?
Giving up privacy for security, and giving up my freedom to allow someone to watch me in some Big Brother capacity is something I would never consent to, and would fight as much as I could. If the Canadian government ever stoops to such tactics I'm leaving the country.
This is insane! This is analogous to me getting thrown in jail for telling someone where my neighbor keeps his crowbar, because they might go borrow it and use it to commit a crime!
The MPAA has lost it's mind. Is it just a case of too many lawyers trying to manufacturer a need for their services, or are the media execs really that power and money hungry?
See, that's the wonderful thing about a free market, if they're not making a profit out of it, they can either raise the price, reduce their costs, or get out of the business. It's as simple as that.
Even us commies up here in Canada recognize basic market principles.
Yeah, and maybe for a large percentage of the computer using population out there.
Until you people realize that the majoirty of people in this planet have no interest in becoming a computer guru/expert/techinician, and don't want to have to learn anything about there computer except for how to use apps, Linux won't get anywhere on the desktop.
Have you ever actually read the BSD style licenses? You can take code from a CSD project, change it, compile it and sell it for cash, never having to release your changes.
That, is true freedom. You're not living on the programmer's good graces, in fact, the code no longer has to have anything to do with the original programmer, except for a credit for the work.
I feel that the last question asked falls squarely under "Stuff that Matters". I'm pretty sure a good portion of the Slashdot readership agrees with me. It's completely up to the interviewee whether or not she wants to answer the question, but the rules were followed, and the fact that she didn't answer makes me wonder why she is reluctant to explain the views (political or otherwise) she holds.
Or perhaps she just doesn't read slashdot interviews and isn't aware that most people get asked "off-topic" questions. ;)
The vaunted US system. I love a system where more money is spent each year on the military than on helping the poor and the sick. You could go all liberterian on me and tell me that the poor should be helping themselves or some such nonsense, but the majority or liberterians are still compasionate people. It's no excuse for the kinds of things that go on in the US. It's too bad the US has forgotten about the democratic component of thei goverment. If you don't care enough to go out and vote, you deserve to be part of the increasingly poorer and powerless middle and lower classes. Also, you folk in the US seem to fear goverments to the point of paranoia, why is it that you have this fear of governemnt, but almost a love for large corporations? Given the current state of the WTO, corporations have power bordering that of sovereign goverments. I agree, too much gov't power is bad, but so is too much corporate power or too much Big Labour(tm) power.
Rambone, just 'cause you're a PERL zealot, did you really need to apply your +1 bonus to that post?
Oh, do you live in Seattle?