Is this true, anymore? Solaris 10 has a whole new services manager that only uses/etc/rc?.d for backwards compatibility. After playing with it a bit, the new services manager is actually quite an improvement (CLI-based, no renaming links in a half dozen directories to change something; it also speeds boot times greatly).
I took a brief look at Cold Fusion a while back, and the one thing I remember is that I instantly "got it". It's pretty much among the most highly digested development platforms out there. Compared to learning and discussing J2EE/.NET, I can see how a forum on Cold Fusion might seem unusally friendly.
When people develop for Linux, they should do the best job they can for the Linux environment, not worry about whether it can be ported to other, proprietary platforms.
What about other non-proprietary platforms?
So, for starters, there's Linux, of course, but also OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenSolaris, soon, and many others that are useful but less publicised (meaning I don't recall their names).
Perhaps we can include Darwin, too, but that sits a little more on the fence, in terms of the closed portions of Mac OS.
BTW, Java works on pretty much all of the above with little or no porting effort.
Actually, don't languages have to be bent to fit in.NET? It seems it really isn't "any language", but, instead, it's "any language that plays by our rules."
This C# vs. Java troll just never dies. A very small portion of.NET is "standardized". The rest is 100% proprietary to Microsoft, is almost certainly patent encumbered, and has the business ethic of Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer to back it up.
You want to use Java, because it is actually vastly more open than.NET will ever be. Is it not true that IBM has its own JDK? Is it not true that IBM and Sun are competitors? Why does Sun tolerate this? Because they want it that way!
Is it also not true that Apple (technically a Sun competitor) also has their own JDK? What about the JDKs available for Linux (technically a competitor to Solaris) and FreeBSD (also technically a competitor to Solaris)? Need I mention that there is a full-blown JDK for Windows? Windows! Sun doesn't even sell Windows!
Sun openly wants Java to be used widely and by many companies. What has Microsoft openly said about.NET and Mono? I would be interested in seeing what their official PR on this matter is.
Well, perhaps inviting some more people if only to help digest the volume of issues in the bug tracker would be helpful. Sometimes secretaries really are essential. (It sucks, BTW, that secretaries are falling out of fashion because the engineers can do their own flight reservations on some crappy website. That's a waste of time, dammit, when someone else can do it much more efficiently.)
"Unfortunately, the Mozilla project is IMHO far, far too dependent on Bugzilla for interaction. There must be mailing lists, somewhere, but the newsgroups they used in the early days are sprawling and mostly abandoned."
The problem is that communication problems scale exponentially with the number of people. I posted something to a really big OSS project mailing list recently, and it took well over a week for someone to respond just to tell me I didn't post properly (no response to my question at all). It took another several days before someone to reply anything remotely helpful in advancing my ability to take the next step.
Another thing that really bugs me is the "one issue per issue entry" zealots. If I post a related question in with the issue, something that is minor relative to the issue, I shouldn't be flamed for it and then ignored. It's like those people who get all fired up over top-posting in mailing lists. Get over it, people!
One other problem, I think, is the size of these projects, which compounds the documentation issue. Linux, OpenOffice.org, and Mozilla have enormous user bases, which is good, but the barriers to going from user to developer are immense.
These projects rival the biggest commercial products in size, but employees of commercial projects get non-trivial company-provided training and mentorship. For anyone to accomplish this on their own requires an unusual amount of motivation and intelligence.
Given that sufficient motivation and intelligence are unusual, the developers who are there tend to be busy enough to not have time to really give mailing lists and issue databases the attention they need. It would be interesting to see what the average time-to-live for an issue at these projects is.
Another indicator is that most of the developers on these projects are paid to do so by Red Hat, Sun, IBM, Novell, HP, etc. in one way or another, meaning the barriers to entry are even sufficient to require compensation.
It uses an open documented file format, for starters. StarOffice has PDF export on the main button bar, I suppose OO.org does too? PDF is also an open documented file format.
Microsoft really doesn't do open or documented. They try to spin it as if they do, but they really don't. Why should they? Lock-in is all they have as a reliable marketing device.
"But there's no way I'd let a Linux 2.6 system touch a server. None of the distros that care about stability will touch 2.6 (Debian, Slackware, etc). If I couldn't use OpenBSD, those are the only Linuxes I would touch.
It's annoying because Linux 2.4 getting pretty long in tooth. This obsession with new features is keeping the kernel that already has lots of good features from being usable."
This is why you should be using Solaris 10 on your servers;)
I bet IBM, Sun, and Dell all celebrated, too, seeing HP go down the tubes. What are HP going to do, now? Somehow hire back all the people who knew everything?
I think HP should buy Infinium Labs and go into the game console business. Put an Itanium in them and sell them also as bathroom space heater entertainment center combo units. Bonus points if they put a toilet paper roll holder on top and put an Elmo spin brush in the box.
Find something easier, lest you burn out and become useless. If you feel you are doing the work of two people, it's because your company is too greedy and short sighted to hire someone else. Once they ruin you, they'll just hire some naive college graduate and ruin them too.
How about you or someone else reveal the company name as 'anonymous coward' if need be, to save the souls of others, who should not be harmed needlessly.
Best of all in that review, the Athlons smoked the P4s, and even the P4s smoked the P4s (The pentiums overheated! The author had to take the cover off of his case!).
Even though Intel is the market leader, AMD has produced some really impressive chips (faster _and_ cooler than P4).
"I can't stand that 60Hz strobe or the washed-out colors. Any suggestions?"
Actually, any good brand-name compact flourescent bulb is fine, IMO. They sell them for like $2 a piece, now, which puts the break even point close enough to be worth it.
Just don't skimp. I made the mistake of buying a cheapo bulb at a closeout a while back and soon realized why they were on closeout (harsh nasty light).
The people complaining the loudest are probably the ones who bought SUVs to be fashionable but didn't think what "40 Gallons" on the window sticker really meant.
LOL, recognizing that your neighbors can help heat your apartment is really smart. This is one advantage of not getting an end unit, although there's always the added risk of one more neighbor.
Of course conservation isn't the silver bullet of environmentalism, but to say conservation is bad is nuts. If I can save a hundred dollars in heating fuel, I will.
Probably the biggest thing is to turn down thermostats in winter and up in summer. Electricity/Heating Fuel are the biggest bills aside from debt payments, it appears.
Actually getting code into a non-trivial project means you were able to navigate unresponsive mailing lists and over-booked bug tracking systems to actually get something done. That's not a small feat, IMO.
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And how is C# useful without
Solaris >=2 is SVR4-based...
/etc/rc?.d for backwards compatibility. After playing with it a bit, the new services manager is actually quite an improvement (CLI-based, no renaming links in a half dozen directories to change something; it also speeds boot times greatly).
Is this true, anymore? Solaris 10 has a whole new services manager that only uses
What about Qt?
I took a brief look at Cold Fusion a while back, and the one thing I remember is that I instantly "got it". It's pretty much among the most highly digested development platforms out there. Compared to learning and discussing J2EE/.NET, I can see how a forum on Cold Fusion might seem unusally friendly.
When people develop for Linux, they should do the best job they can for the Linux environment, not worry about whether it can be ported to other, proprietary platforms.
What about other non-proprietary platforms?
So, for starters, there's Linux, of course, but also OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenSolaris, soon, and many others that are useful but less publicised (meaning I don't recall their names).
Perhaps we can include Darwin, too, but that sits a little more on the fence, in terms of the closed portions of Mac OS.
BTW, Java works on pretty much all of the above with little or no porting effort.
Actually, don't languages have to be bent to fit in
This C# vs. Java troll just never dies. A very small portion of
You want to use Java, because it is actually vastly more open than
Is it also not true that Apple (technically a Sun competitor) also has their own JDK? What about the JDKs available for Linux (technically a competitor to Solaris) and FreeBSD (also technically a competitor to Solaris)? Need I mention that there is a full-blown JDK for Windows? Windows! Sun doesn't even sell Windows!
Sun openly wants Java to be used widely and by many companies. What has Microsoft openly said about
Well, perhaps inviting some more people if only to help digest the volume of issues in the bug tracker would be helpful. Sometimes secretaries really are essential. (It sucks, BTW, that secretaries are falling out of fashion because the engineers can do their own flight reservations on some crappy website. That's a waste of time, dammit, when someone else can do it much more efficiently.)
"Unfortunately, the Mozilla project is IMHO far, far too dependent on Bugzilla for interaction. There must be mailing lists, somewhere, but the newsgroups they used in the early days are sprawling and mostly abandoned."
The problem is that communication problems scale exponentially with the number of people. I posted something to a really big OSS project mailing list recently, and it took well over a week for someone to respond just to tell me I didn't post properly (no response to my question at all). It took another several days before someone to reply anything remotely helpful in advancing my ability to take the next step.
Another thing that really bugs me is the "one issue per issue entry" zealots. If I post a related question in with the issue, something that is minor relative to the issue, I shouldn't be flamed for it and then ignored. It's like those people who get all fired up over top-posting in mailing lists. Get over it, people!
One other problem, I think, is the size of these projects, which compounds the documentation issue. Linux, OpenOffice.org, and Mozilla have enormous user bases, which is good, but the barriers to going from user to developer are immense.
These projects rival the biggest commercial products in size, but employees of commercial projects get non-trivial company-provided training and mentorship. For anyone to accomplish this on their own requires an unusual amount of motivation and intelligence.
Given that sufficient motivation and intelligence are unusual, the developers who are there tend to be busy enough to not have time to really give mailing lists and issue databases the attention they need. It would be interesting to see what the average time-to-live for an issue at these projects is.
Another indicator is that most of the developers on these projects are paid to do so by Red Hat, Sun, IBM, Novell, HP, etc. in one way or another, meaning the barriers to entry are even sufficient to require compensation.
It uses an open documented file format, for starters. StarOffice has PDF export on the main button bar, I suppose OO.org does too? PDF is also an open documented file format.
Microsoft really doesn't do open or documented. They try to spin it as if they do, but they really don't. Why should they? Lock-in is all they have as a reliable marketing device.
"But there's no way I'd let a Linux 2.6 system touch a server. None of the distros that care about stability will touch 2.6 (Debian, Slackware, etc). If I couldn't use OpenBSD, those are the only Linuxes I would touch.
;)
It's annoying because Linux 2.4 getting pretty long in tooth. This obsession with new features is keeping the kernel that already has lots of good features from being usable."
This is why you should be using Solaris 10 on your servers
I bet IBM, Sun, and Dell all celebrated, too, seeing HP go down the tubes. What are HP going to do, now? Somehow hire back all the people who knew everything?
I think HP should buy Infinium Labs and go into the game console business. Put an Itanium in them and sell them also as bathroom space heater entertainment center combo units. Bonus points if they put a toilet paper roll holder on top and put an Elmo spin brush in the box.
it's all to do with the amount of sugar you eat
It has to do with how much a person abuses themselves in general, and some people are inherently more susceptible to that abuse.
When OS/2 went down at friot-lay, no more fritos...not good times.
I'm sure millions of beating hearts had a moment of silence for the sudden halt in frito production (either that or they all had heart attacks).
Find something easier, lest you burn out and become useless. If you feel you are doing the work of two people, it's because your company is too greedy and short sighted to hire someone else. Once they ruin you, they'll just hire some naive college graduate and ruin them too.
How about you or someone else reveal the company name as 'anonymous coward' if need be, to save the souls of others, who should not be harmed needlessly.
Best of all in that review, the Athlons smoked the P4s, and even the P4s smoked the P4s (The pentiums overheated! The author had to take the cover off of his case!).
Even though Intel is the market leader, AMD has produced some really impressive chips (faster _and_ cooler than P4).
Simple, trade in your heating-oil furnace for a P4.
I want to heat my home not burn it down!
"I can't stand that 60Hz strobe or the washed-out colors. Any suggestions?"
Actually, any good brand-name compact flourescent bulb is fine, IMO. They sell them for like $2 a piece, now, which puts the break even point close enough to be worth it.
Just don't skimp. I made the mistake of buying a cheapo bulb at a closeout a while back and soon realized why they were on closeout (harsh nasty light).
Why are people bitching about that?!
The people complaining the loudest are probably the ones who bought SUVs to be fashionable but didn't think what "40 Gallons" on the window sticker really meant.
I live in an apartment...
LOL, recognizing that your neighbors can help heat your apartment is really smart. This is one advantage of not getting an end unit, although there's always the added risk of one more neighbor.
Of course conservation isn't the silver bullet of environmentalism, but to say conservation is bad is nuts. If I can save a hundred dollars in heating fuel, I will.
Probably the biggest thing is to turn down thermostats in winter and up in summer. Electricity/Heating Fuel are the biggest bills aside from debt payments, it appears.
Actually getting code into a non-trivial project means you were able to navigate unresponsive mailing lists and over-booked bug tracking systems to actually get something done. That's not a small feat, IMO.
Reading his last paragraph, it sounds as if he would be a shoe-in for Sun's marketing dept.