I've used Macs for quite some time but can't find any convincing reason to use OS X besides that it looks nice.
Here's my reasons main for using it:
Photoshop. I mostly use GIMP, but there are many things that can only be done in Photoshop.
WiFi that works.
Power management that works, complete with sleep mode (needed on my laptop)
I also love the beautiful eyecandy. Makes staring at the screen all day pleasant. Hopefully much of that will work in the recent OpenGL accellerated X projects, but it will probably take a while to get the same level of polish and elegance that OS X has.
PostgreSQL requires more work than that. By default it uses ident authentication which, ihmo, isn't good. For example, if you install phpPgAdmin you can log in as any user simply by typing in the username and anything you want for the username. Not cool. Enabling proper auth such as md5 isn't very easy for a n00b.
Personally, I'm hoping that PostgreSQL takes all of this as a notice to make their DBMS easier to use for new users. I use PostgreSQL heavily and it's an excellent DBMS, but for a new user it's quite difficult to set up.
I like arTs. and dcop. and KDE. They're designed with some sense of... well, sense.
I like KDE very much, eventhough I'm now primarily using Enlightenment. I don't like arts though. It would be decent if every app I used it, but most don't. I keep arts running but I have it release the device after 5 seconds so it doesn't lock out my other programs from sound.
Seriously, for applications written for KDE, KDE is fast (even on my PoS 500MHz Dell).
I agree. It's very fast compared to GNOME (in my experience, anyway). But if you think it's fast, you really need to try Enlightenment or IceWM. Those are blazing, even with Enlightenment's eyecandy.
the virtualized filesystem is so nice that its something I'd like to be ported to bash's userspace
That is a feature I love, though it would be better if other applications (OpenOffice for example) could make use of it. I use fish:// pretty heavily. (Kate is my editor)
Konqueror is crap compared to Firefox
What I like about Konqueror is it doesn't crash all the time like Firefox. Ever try to use myspace.com with Firefox?
It will be out the same day as Duke Nukem Forever.
Right now it's still in the planning phase (the "screenshots" are just mockups), and probably won't hit beta until at least the fall. Anyway, I'm looking forward to it being released. I might even switch back from Enlightenment.
BTW, if you have not tried Enlightment give it a try. It's not the easiest thing to use (takes getting used to), but it's so nice and so amazingly fast even on slow machines.
When I get home, the last thing I want is to figure out why my network card isn't working after the latest upgrade.
Have you even used Linux in the last 6 or so years? I use Linux on three machines at home, and manage several dozen at work. The only problems I ever had with hardware not working after an update was with propreitary drivers (nVidia). And that's not even an issue any more thanks to Livna.
I'm not interested in finding out that I need to upgrade 15 different libraries before I can upgrade KDE--because I've been doing it all day long. I just want to get on my computer and do what I've got to do.
Yeah, running "yum update" is the most difficult thing in the world to do (or use the default nightly update). Are you using a souce based distro or something? If you using something like Fedora, Suse, Mandriva, Ubuntu, etc the dependecies are handled automatically.
where are all the kick ass media players for KDE that need aRTS?
amaroK. Try it, it is awesome. I personally cannot stand using Arts. The good thing is that amaroK has different output plugins, including Helix, GStreamer, and Xine (the best, IMHO).
Open Kcontrol, expand "Sound and Multimedia", click on "System Notifications", click the "Apply to all applications" checkbox, and click on the "Turn Off All" button. Problem solved. Or just kill the PoS Arts.
The real problem is it's slow... even in comparison to Gnome.
I'm not sure about that. I used KDE heavily up until the 3.5 release (I now use Enlightenment DR17 + Gnome), but KDE has always felt so much faster. Windows seem to open faster, when I hit Alt-F2 the dialog opens instantly, when I click a menu I don't have to watch it draw itself, etc. I kept trying Gnome but always ended up frustrated with it until I replaced Metacity with Enlightenment (before switching to Gnome I was using just Enlightenment). Using the Gnome parts still feel sluggish, though (OpenSUSE 10 and Fedora Core 4).
Really. Can't Google port their code to something like wxWidgets? The API is similar to Windows but it works so much nicer. I love how it makes apps look and feel native on the running platform.
I know you listed that as not working right, but I've had very good experiences with it. I do a lot of audio editing (~5G/song) and also run multiple VMWare images (all 2G+). No problems at all.
Are you sure your HD is good? What distro are you using?
You should take a look at Wildfire. It has a GPL'd version and commercial version (extra features and support). At work I use the GPL'd Wildfire and it is excellent. It's also very easy to install, basically all you have to do is install the RPM and open a web brower to configure it.
I've used Macs for quite some time but can't find any convincing reason to use OS X besides that it looks nice.
Here's my reasons main for using it:
I also love the beautiful eyecandy. Makes staring at the screen all day pleasant. Hopefully much of that will work in the recent OpenGL accellerated X projects, but it will probably take a while to get the same level of polish and elegance that OS X has.
VMWare Workstation works quite well for virtual servers. I run a Windows 2000 virtual server underneath one of the Linux servers. Works fine.
PostgreSQL requires more work than that. By default it uses ident authentication which, ihmo, isn't good. For example, if you install phpPgAdmin you can log in as any user simply by typing in the username and anything you want for the username. Not cool. Enabling proper auth such as md5 isn't very easy for a n00b.
s tgres.html
http://developer.apple.com/internet/opensource/po
Personally, I'm hoping that PostgreSQL takes all of this as a notice to make their DBMS easier to use for new users. I use PostgreSQL heavily and it's an excellent DBMS, but for a new user it's quite difficult to set up.
Well, I haven't tried it but eGroupware does support XML-RPC and it can sync (both ways) with clients such as KDE's Korganizer/Kontact.
I does calendars, project management, wiki, issue tracking, email, etc. It's a great app, fully web based and it now uses AJAX. Give it a try.
http://www.egroupware.org/
Chicken sexer
You don't want to help encourage illiterate cops learn to read?
And just what do you do when the application that you need to install isn't in your distribution's binary repository?
Use the AutoPackage. If there isn't one, request one from the developers.
You do know that Gnucash will run on OSX, right? Fink ported it.
Fish does SSH. Heh, I didn't even know ssh:// worked.
wxWidgets is not limited to the UI. It includes threading, networking, sockets, file io, printing, etc.
I like arTs. and dcop. and KDE. They're designed with some sense of... well, sense.
I like KDE very much, eventhough I'm now primarily using Enlightenment. I don't like arts though. It would be decent if every app I used it, but most don't. I keep arts running but I have it release the device after 5 seconds so it doesn't lock out my other programs from sound.
Seriously, for applications written for KDE, KDE is fast (even on my PoS 500MHz Dell).
I agree. It's very fast compared to GNOME (in my experience, anyway). But if you think it's fast, you really need to try Enlightenment or IceWM. Those are blazing, even with Enlightenment's eyecandy.
the virtualized filesystem is so nice that its something I'd like to be ported to bash's userspace
That is a feature I love, though it would be better if other applications (OpenOffice for example) could make use of it. I use fish:// pretty heavily. (Kate is my editor)
Konqueror is crap compared to Firefox
What I like about Konqueror is it doesn't crash all the time like Firefox. Ever try to use myspace.com with Firefox?
Personally I'd rather be sober than drink that shit.
It will be out the same day as Duke Nukem Forever.
Right now it's still in the planning phase (the "screenshots" are just mockups), and probably won't hit beta until at least the fall. Anyway, I'm looking forward to it being released. I might even switch back from Enlightenment.
BTW, if you have not tried Enlightment give it a try. It's not the easiest thing to use (takes getting used to), but it's so nice and so amazingly fast even on slow machines.
It works, but you have to use SSH forwarding and launch it from xterm. Ie:
ssh -X <host> quanta
I do that on my laptop (PowerBook w/ Tiger) fairly regularly.
When I get home, the last thing I want is to figure out why my network card isn't working after the latest upgrade.
Have you even used Linux in the last 6 or so years? I use Linux on three machines at home, and manage several dozen at work. The only problems I ever had with hardware not working after an update was with propreitary drivers (nVidia). And that's not even an issue any more thanks to Livna.
I'm not interested in finding out that I need to upgrade 15 different libraries before I can upgrade KDE--because I've been doing it all day long. I just want to get on my computer and do what I've got to do.
Yeah, running "yum update" is the most difficult thing in the world to do (or use the default nightly update). Are you using a souce based distro or something? If you using something like Fedora, Suse, Mandriva, Ubuntu, etc the dependecies are handled automatically.
where are all the kick ass media players for KDE that need aRTS?
amaroK. Try it, it is awesome. I personally cannot stand using Arts. The good thing is that amaroK has different output plugins, including Helix, GStreamer, and Xine (the best, IMHO).
Agreed. At least it's easy to fix, though:
Open Kcontrol, expand "Sound and Multimedia", click on "System Notifications", click the "Apply to all applications" checkbox, and click on the "Turn Off All" button. Problem solved. Or just kill the PoS Arts.
The real problem is it's slow ... even in comparison to Gnome.
I'm not sure about that. I used KDE heavily up until the 3.5 release (I now use Enlightenment DR17 + Gnome), but KDE has always felt so much faster. Windows seem to open faster, when I hit Alt-F2 the dialog opens instantly, when I click a menu I don't have to watch it draw itself, etc. I kept trying Gnome but always ended up frustrated with it until I replaced Metacity with Enlightenment (before switching to Gnome I was using just Enlightenment). Using the Gnome parts still feel sluggish, though (OpenSUSE 10 and Fedora Core 4).
Really. Can't Google port their code to something like wxWidgets? The API is similar to Windows but it works so much nicer. I love how it makes apps look and feel native on the running platform.
I've been in public K12 far the last twelve years and never heard of such a thing. Is that really true? It sounds ridiculous.
Did you pass English?
I know you listed that as not working right, but I've had very good experiences with it. I do a lot of audio editing (~5G/song) and also run multiple VMWare images (all 2G+). No problems at all.
Are you sure your HD is good? What distro are you using?
It isn't truely beta. It was a product from Giant until M$ bought it. I've been using it on many computers it works quite well.
You should sell the business users F-Prot. It also has very cheap volume licensing.
You should take a look at Wildfire. It has a GPL'd version and commercial version (extra features and support). At work I use the GPL'd Wildfire and it is excellent. It's also very easy to install, basically all you have to do is install the RPM and open a web brower to configure it.