This is a totally good idea and should be implemented by educational and business institutions and here's why:
#1 It creates awareness for the issue.
#2 It will make people pay attention to the URL when using the web.
#3 By inciting #2 it will make basic internet security main stream.
It's relevant but please don't talk about Bittorrent in the context of this case as if that was the protocol used. It's not fair and it's totally off topic.
If the logic you provided was deemed legitimate in the eyes of the judge then the RIAA would have to provide evidence as such. I don't think, however, that the RIAA has this evidence nor can they get it because I highly doubt the conditions of that time are still in place.
A lot of comments I'm reading assume that this case is about Bittorrent where if you guys bother to rtfa (read the f article) you would know that this case is about Kazaa.
Most cases that get to court are about Kazaa and the Gnutella network because with Bittorrent the evidence brought to court is usually very vague and not enough to get a good ruling for the RIAA.
What makes the Gnutella network different is that a user shares files inside of a "Shared" directory therefore making it much easier to prove that a person at a given IP was infringing on copyright. However, the judge today created a huge setback for the RIAA by ruling that simply having files in a publicly available directory is not "intent to distribute" in-in of itself. The RIAA must prove that she not only made the files public but also announced to some 3rd party that they can take them.
The concept is called the "make available" theory and it looks like today in the Southern District of New York that theory is no longer valid.
It's a bunch of screenshots of Kazaa showing a listing of files that was in her shared folder. Essentially the RIAA lawyers argued that by simply having the files in that directory she was inciting others to infringe on their copyrights. This concept is called the "make available" theory. The judge threw it out.
She gave the RIAA thirty days to make a new argument against this lady but to do so they have to show that she communicated with a 3rd party to 'offer to distribute' and that the intent in doing so was for "the purpose of further distribution".
Clearly, they have no way of obtaining this information because it most likely doesn't exist and because this is a civil case they have no way to obtain more evidence short of her giving them an instant messaging, E-mail, or phone transcript / recording with her saying "Hey, go on Kazaa, look up my name and download X, Y, and Z songs". In other words, they're screwed.
Now next time how about reading the god damn article!!!
There's no way they can prove that the "defendant made an 'offer to distribute,' and that the offer was for "'the purpose of further distribution,'". Nail in the coffin.;)
The Actiontec routers aren't that bad to be honest. It's 802.11G is fantastic and it's a pretty feature rich router. I'm pretty unhappy with the fact that it's firmware is skinned up in crappy red Verizon. It's not really the branding that I care about but more the fact that every time I have to make a change in the router I have to look at a very badly designed skin.
One other limitation on the router is a very small DNS cache. Not very good for multitaskers.
Only thing keeping me with Comcast Internet is that it's the only thing available here. (Temple University campus within eyesight of the new Comcast Tower in Philadelphia). It's kinda sad that Comcast has the philly area by the balls. They have a duopoly with Verizon on Internet around here and I don't see Verizon laying down any fiberoptic lines in this ghetto ass neighborhood.
Just remember Creative, the geeks control the network.
We are the ones that fix computers for friends and relatives. Slashdot readers alone probably account for a good sizable chunk of all your sales ever so what do you think will happen when we stop recommending your brand to the people who don't know any better. Or better yet, say it sucks?
Your company won't be the first to die in the flames of a hoard of angry geeks and you certainly won't be the last.
It's sad when incompetent people fail to do a job they were payed to do but then a guy with much less in resources goes and does it no problem. Sadly this is happening more and more lately.
Even if they "get it", nothing changes. What exactly are they going to do with this new found knowledge? The central point of entry into the social arena is still the front page of the mainstream media. Someone has to read it in the first place once to pass it on to their friends.
Unless of course they decide to throw up a couple of AIM bots to link me to random news articles and then that will be the beginning of the end.:(
(In all seriousness though there's still the block button)
This is what happens if contracts are awarded to companies that have CEOs with connections to politicians. Politicians clearly have no fucking clue what it's involved so they simply accept the status quo from these leeches!
The fact of the matter is this job could be done with this setup: -Each hand held machine would collect data as it's received and store locally. -Once back at the office they would be connected to the LAN with an Internet connection to a main server at census offices with an SSL encryption that would simply upload the results.
Why is it that companies constantly over complicate the operation?
Videogame developers do a better job of all of this on a tighter budget with less people and are expected to do so in less time!! Why are we paying them if the job isn't done? Cut them off now and get someone else for the job.
Exactly, which is why the future of companies that make money from computers would be mostly relegated to support and installation. In other words the marginal cost of man power.
Microsoft: Because backwards compatibility is always > then innovation. Translation: Stagnation Apple: Design over usability. Let's also not forget the Safari forced installation through update from a few days ago. iTunes and Quicktime border on malware these days.
And Google..... the haters are it's competitors cause Google gives away what Microsoft charges $400+ for.
Your installed OS on your HOME computer is protected by the fourth amendment since it's within your home. They would need a search warrant. Any evidence gathered without one gets thrown out. Then again if you're a terrorist....
What is smart one decade doesn't mean it's smart the next decade. The industry changes and so do the tools used.
Today's businesses wants solutions, not mathematicians.
The tools (Frameworks and programming languages) available to web developers like PHP, ASP.NET, and AJAX all require little to no high level math. A simple understanding of boolean algebra (logic gates) and middle school algebra is sufficient. Why waste my time on derivatives if I can use that time to learn these in-demand tools and be ahead in the industry before even graduating?
This simple misunderstanding of today's industry is why the people who graduate today are relegated to being Microsoft Certified drones that might be able to solve a simple problem but can't grasp the concept of Client/Server until you explain it to them for the 100th time.
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This is a totally good idea and should be implemented by educational and business institutions and here's why: #1 It creates awareness for the issue. #2 It will make people pay attention to the URL when using the web. #3 By inciting #2 it will make basic internet security main stream.
It's relevant but please don't talk about Bittorrent in the context of this case as if that was the protocol used. It's not fair and it's totally off topic.
If the logic you provided was deemed legitimate in the eyes of the judge then the RIAA would have to provide evidence as such. I don't think, however, that the RIAA has this evidence nor can they get it because I highly doubt the conditions of that time are still in place.
A lot of comments I'm reading assume that this case is about Bittorrent where if you guys bother to rtfa (read the f article) you would know that this case is about Kazaa.
Most cases that get to court are about Kazaa and the Gnutella network because with Bittorrent the evidence brought to court is usually very vague and not enough to get a good ruling for the RIAA.
What makes the Gnutella network different is that a user shares files inside of a "Shared" directory therefore making it much easier to prove that a person at a given IP was infringing on copyright. However, the judge today created a huge setback for the RIAA by ruling that simply having files in a publicly available directory is not "intent to distribute" in-in of itself. The RIAA must prove that she not only made the files public but also announced to some 3rd party that they can take them.
The concept is called the "make available" theory and it looks like today in the Southern District of New York that theory is no longer valid.
Rtfa!!!!! This is Kazaa, not bittorrent.
Check out
Exhibit B Part 1: http://www.ilrweb.com/viewILRPDF.asp?filename=elektra_barker_complaintexBpt1
Exhibit B Part 2: http://www.ilrweb.com/viewILRPDF.asp?filename=elektra_barker_complaintexBpt1
It's a bunch of screenshots of Kazaa showing a listing of files that was in her shared folder. Essentially the RIAA lawyers argued that by simply having the files in that directory she was inciting others to infringe on their copyrights. This concept is called the "make available" theory. The judge threw it out.
She gave the RIAA thirty days to make a new argument against this lady but to do so they have to show that she communicated with a 3rd party to 'offer to distribute' and that the intent in doing so was for "the purpose of further distribution".
Clearly, they have no way of obtaining this information because it most likely doesn't exist and because this is a civil case they have no way to obtain more evidence short of her giving them an instant messaging, E-mail, or phone transcript / recording with her saying "Hey, go on Kazaa, look up my name and download X, Y, and Z songs". In other words, they're screwed.
Now next time how about reading the god damn article!!!
There's no way they can prove that the "defendant made an 'offer to distribute,' and that the offer was for "'the purpose of further distribution,'". Nail in the coffin. ;)
Fair enough but it is important to note that most people tend to have biases towards hardware based on one or two bad experiences.
rtfa, if you don't notice a difference you gotta be blind....
The Actiontec routers aren't that bad to be honest. It's 802.11G is fantastic and it's a pretty feature rich router. I'm pretty unhappy with the fact that it's firmware is skinned up in crappy red Verizon. It's not really the branding that I care about but more the fact that every time I have to make a change in the router I have to look at a very badly designed skin. One other limitation on the router is a very small DNS cache. Not very good for multitaskers.
Only thing keeping me with Comcast Internet is that it's the only thing available here. (Temple University campus within eyesight of the new Comcast Tower in Philadelphia). It's kinda sad that Comcast has the philly area by the balls. They have a duopoly with Verizon on Internet around here and I don't see Verizon laying down any fiberoptic lines in this ghetto ass neighborhood.
Yea cause the amount bandwidth taken up by a thousand spam e-mails isn't equivalent to 10 frames of 1080p. :P
Just remember Creative, the geeks control the network.
We are the ones that fix computers for friends and relatives. Slashdot readers alone probably account for a good sizable chunk of all your sales ever so what do you think will happen when we stop recommending your brand to the people who don't know any better. Or better yet, say it sucks?
Your company won't be the first to die in the flames of a hoard of angry geeks and you certainly won't be the last.
It's sad when incompetent people fail to do a job they were payed to do but then a guy with much less in resources goes and does it no problem. Sadly this is happening more and more lately.
Even if they "get it", nothing changes. What exactly are they going to do with this new found knowledge? The central point of entry into the social arena is still the front page of the mainstream media. Someone has to read it in the first place once to pass it on to their friends.
:(
Unless of course they decide to throw up a couple of AIM bots to link me to random news articles and then that will be the beginning of the end.
(In all seriousness though there's still the block button)
So now instead of me having the choice of walking into a store and buying a CD I'm forced to?
Who says that just because I use the Internet I ever listen to your music?
Get out of my fucking wallet!
Thanks for validating what the competent people have been saying all along.
This is what happens if contracts are awarded to companies that have CEOs with connections to politicians. Politicians clearly have no fucking clue what it's involved so they simply accept the status quo from these leeches!
The fact of the matter is this job could be done with this setup:
-Each hand held machine would collect data as it's received and store locally.
-Once back at the office they would be connected to the LAN with an Internet connection to a main server at census offices with an SSL encryption that would simply upload the results.
Why is it that companies constantly over complicate the operation?
Videogame developers do a better job of all of this on a tighter budget with less people and are expected to do so in less time!! Why are we paying them if the job isn't done? Cut them off now and get someone else for the job.
News as in news. Old news is !news.
/sigh
Exactly, which is why the future of companies that make money from computers would be mostly relegated to support and installation. In other words the marginal cost of man power.
Hardly news considering the article was posted on Oct 12th, 2004!
Who the hell approved this?
Microsoft: Because backwards compatibility is always > then innovation. Translation: Stagnation
Apple: Design over usability. Let's also not forget the Safari forced installation through update from a few days ago. iTunes and Quicktime border on malware these days.
And Google..... the haters are it's competitors cause Google gives away what Microsoft charges $400+ for.
Your installed OS on your HOME computer is protected by the fourth amendment since it's within your home. They would need a search warrant. Any evidence gathered without one gets thrown out. Then again if you're a terrorist....
Yea, if that certificate let me get a 120k/year job then sure.....
How long until someone codes a bot so I can get free shit?
What is smart one decade doesn't mean it's smart the next decade. The industry changes and so do the tools used.
Today's businesses wants solutions, not mathematicians.
The tools (Frameworks and programming languages) available to web developers like PHP, ASP.NET, and AJAX all require little to no high level math. A simple understanding of boolean algebra (logic gates) and middle school algebra is sufficient. Why waste my time on derivatives if I can use that time to learn these in-demand tools and be ahead in the industry before even graduating?
This simple misunderstanding of today's industry is why the people who graduate today are relegated to being Microsoft Certified drones that might be able to solve a simple problem but can't grasp the concept of Client/Server until you explain it to them for the 100th time.