"Has this guy ever been pepper sprayed or beaten up before?
People shouldnt have to endure this to receive justice
Shouldn't, but must. On the bright side, if OWS happened a century ago, protesters would almost certainly have been shot by now. So the fact no one has been deliberately gunned down is a type of progress (I'm aware of the veteran disabled by a tear gas canister, but I'm giving the cops the benefit of the doubt that that was an isolated incident).
I find OWS lacking in many ways, and the protestors that make their way into the media tend to be a little embarrassing to listen to because they are generally painfully naive. Still, income disparity is an issue that desperately needs to be addressed, so I'm glad that so many people are fighting to make sure it can't be ignored.
Sorry to reply to my own post, but there is another reason that unauthorized access and trespassing shouldn't be treated the same: physical presence and intent. In order to trespass I believe you have to know you are doing so and be physically present, hence the need for no trespassing signs. But it's completely possible to access a website by accident.
One of my old coworkers once got our office IP address banned by Google. He had decided to *ahem* automate his porn collection by writing a recursive spider to collect.jpg files from porn thumbnail sites based on certain keywords. Unfortunately one of the links lead back to Google, the spider was multithreaded and went nuts, and it started querying Google so fast that it violated Google's ToS. It was never his intention for his porn spider to pound Google, but thanks to a little stupidity it did, and under this he'd be a criminal (instead of just a moron).
It strikes me that they are trying to equate "unauthorized access" of a computer to trespassing. The hitch is that the two don't equate very well, as unauthorized access will vary from situation to situation whereas trespassing is strictly defined. For instance trespassing:
I invite someone over for dinner.
I tell them I have a no shoes in the house rule.
They refuse to take off their shoes.
I tell them to leave, but they refuse.
They are trespassing because they refuse to leave, not taking off their shoes isn't relevant.
Unauthorized access:
I invite someone over for dinner.
I tell them I have a no shoes in the house rule.
They refuse to take off their shoes.
They would now be in criminal violation, just because they didn't follow my rules.
I have a feeling this won't hold up in court, no matter what the DOJ wants. If nothing else, treating ToS as legal documents would be a jurisdictional nightmare. For instance: Would you have to abide by Facebook's ToS on every site with a "Like" button and a FB tracking cookie? If I write in my site's ToS that all spam is unauthorized access, can I get Jeff Bezos thrown in jail every time Amazon sends me another coupon I didn't ask for?
Disabling SSID is clunky too. Both approaches effect the user's experience.
But really what expectation of privacy do you really have when you are broadcasting a radio signal? It's not as if Google is decrypting your data. In the US I believe that would be illegal, and generally not something they would be interested in doing anyway. But recording a signal you are broadcasting I believe is still a-ok.
As far as security goes, I ran an experiment last year and I was really surprised just how bad wireless security really is. I just downloaded KissMac and set it to work on all the wireless networks reaching my computer (about 25 or so usually). I didn't use packet insertion, and I just used the Apple Airport card that came with the computer. Within a week it had cracked every single one that wasn't using WPA2 (nearly none of them were), and filled a hard drive with their network activity. I know that won't surprise a lot of/. users, but I was surprised at just how easy it was, any kid can do it.
There are a number of stylus (stylii?) for the iPad, ones good enough to to draw cartoons, let alone write. I'd probably utilize the camera too though. Just don't let the professors know your filming, lest you give them stage fright.
This is a pretty clunky, it's akin to adding _nomap to every url you don't want indexed. Google might want to come up with a more elegant solution.
At the same time, Google doesn't really need to offer any solution at all. "Is it just me, or should this 'service' be an explicit opt-in?" You are opting in when you decide to start broadcasting radio waves. Complaining about having your wifi recorded is like yelling in a public place and then complaining that people notice.
Google might offer to ignore a network, but no one else will.
I'd tend to agree, with the caveat that I suspect that there likely is a historical bias that we haven't quite caught up with yet. I strongly doubt that you're going to see any racial bigotry in today's market... but it takes a generation or two for people that were discriminated against to catch up. The 1960s weren't so long ago, and even the 90s were profoundly racist. A child requires an upbringing where they are free to explore. It takes time before you start to see a statistically significant number of the children of an oppressed people begin to innovate in hi-tech fields previously unavailable to them.
"Imagine if the U.S. authorities wanted to do a house search at my home, go through my private papers. There would be a hell of a fight. It's absolutely unacceptable.'"
That would be nice, but I don't think it is very likely. Access to the court system is a matter of how much you are willing to spend, particularly in criminal defense matters.
For a group concerned about military security, like DARPA, denying access based upon behavioural changes may be appropriate. After all, it may demonstrate bribery or blackmail or some other change of heart.
Or getting shot at. Isn't the saying that life in the military consists of long stretches of boredom, occasionally interrupted by brief periods of utter terror? I'd hate to lose access to the network the moment I needed it most just because an IUD just put a shard of metal in my hand, making it difficult to talk or type at my normal rate.
I was just spit balling. Sorry if I've never done any high frequency trading.
Perhaps you should look around and realize that this is Slashdot, not the House of Representatives. This discussion is just food for thought. No one, regardless of their qualifications, is here to solve anything.
I was specifically talking about Window's Genuine Advantage, I should have been more clear. Apple is certainly guilty of some nasty DRM schemes, but they don't really effect me because I don't use the iTunes store, and I deleted the App Store as soon as I noticed it on the doc. I'm only talking about the fact that OS X doesn't hassle me upon installation like Windows does.
Paul's question, "why more folks aren't using FreeBSD on the desktop?" can be answered in two words: hardware support. My business partner is a huge proponent of BSD, and so am I... but the only on the servers.
One time we installed NetBSD on an old laptop. It ran ok so long as you kept the power supply in the office freezer. Otherwise it would start to smoke. No graphics card or wifi, but that's to be expected. And USB devices were pretty hit and miss.
I'm sure BSD (in general) has probably come a long way since then, but I really don't care to find out. Installing a strange new OS doesn't give me satisfaction anymore. I haven't even booted into Linux for a couple years. And I've gotten too lazy to bother with Windows and their crazy DRM schemes. At the risk of sounding like an fanboy, Apple really did something right when they bought NeXTStep. OS X is perfectly positioned at the intersection of power vs convenience. It would be very hard to give up. I'm not exactly thrilled with iOS creeping in, but I suppose if they screw OS X up I can always just install an old version.
It seems to me that we would have far fewer problems if we: 1) Taxed capital gains as income. 2) Added a couple more tax brackets, up to 50% of earnings above $500K 3) Eliminated corporate income tax, and redrafted "corporate personhood".
Taxing capital gains as income would lower the tax rate for low-middle class retired people living off their investments, while doubling it for bankers making over 100K a year in the market. That would take a lot of the incentive out of high frequency trading.
We also need to reform the way we treat corporations. There is no need to tax them, as every penny they make will eventually wind up in someone's hands (where it will be taxed). The flip side is we need to cut way back on their "rights". A corporation should only be empowered to enter into contracts and indemnify it's employees from financial liability. No campaign contributions, no lobbyists, no involvement in politics whatsoever. Their free speech ends at ad copy for their products.
I'm actually a pretty anti-tax person, I don't even like fiat currencies, but within the current system I think those measures would improve things.
There isn't much real information in the "article". There is a 2 minute video of Bill Gates discussing in very broad terms his support of a transaction tax, and his opinion that it will never happen in the US. There is a link to wikipedia describing a Tobin tax, which is a tax on currency exchange transactions. But Gate's doesn't seem to be discussing a tax on currency transactions. Then there is a link to an image of 2007 British tax code, which doesn't exactly explain what Bill is in favor of enacting either.
I sympathize with the parent's outlook. How can we trust US government officials to not slant the playing field toward the wealthy (their "base", as Bush famously called them)?
A hand built PC vs an iMac isn't a very good comparison, as you're not factoring in labor, marketing, industrial design, support, etc. all of which are factors that contribute to the iMacs price. Cutting out marketing, and even industrial design (I'm not asking you to hit the iMac's diminutive footprint), if you were going to sell your hand-built machines as a full time business, how much would you charge to research, build, and support them?
Factoring back in industrial design: if you look at Apple's market share it's telling that in the areas where design matters most, they are excelling. In the desktop market design is more of a luxury, but it's more critical in the laptop market (where Apple's market share is much higher). Building a desktop from parts isn't much of a challenge, but building a laptop from parts is. Building one that can compete with a Macbook Pro is very hard.
Wow, that's a ripoff all right. The last two places I've lived took bank transfers, no fee. The current place knows they can't get away with a fee like that as the alternative is to drop off the check on my way in at the front dest. I imagine they prefer the transfer as it eliminates the possibility of bouncing checks.
But you're right in the sense that rent is pretty much the last hold out. Mortgages are generally all electronic now. I don't think I've paid anything else with a check since the 90s. All my bills are auto-billed. It was actually a problem when I moved to a different state, because they wanted a utility bill in addition to a lease to establish residency and I didn't have any.
The Netflix exodus wasn't just because of the price increase. People understand price increases. It was about the non-chalent contempt that they showed their customers by wording their email "don't you dare complain, the increase is less then the cost of that fancy coffee you're sucking on". The price increase was of course a big factor, but compared to renting at Blockbuster in the 90s, even with the increase Netflix is a steal. The Quickster thing was just icing, the cake was baked and burned.
It was the sort of dumbass move only someone with a job title that abbreviates to a three letter acronym could make. Speaking as the CEO of a small company, I'd say that the brass had their heads so far up their own asses that they honestly couldn't see what was going to happen. My advice: if you're the CEO, you owe it to the company to spend at least 3 hours a day doing customer service or tech support, so that you know what the people you are serving want. Even if you can't give it to them, you know what to shoot for. Otherwise, you can let a singe sentence slide (the latte thing in Netflix case) and ruin a business hundreds or thousands of people have worked tirelessly on.
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"Has this guy ever been pepper sprayed or beaten up before?
People shouldnt have to endure this to receive justice
Shouldn't, but must. On the bright side, if OWS happened a century ago, protesters would almost certainly have been shot by now. So the fact no one has been deliberately gunned down is a type of progress (I'm aware of the veteran disabled by a tear gas canister, but I'm giving the cops the benefit of the doubt that that was an isolated incident).
I find OWS lacking in many ways, and the protestors that make their way into the media tend to be a little embarrassing to listen to because they are generally painfully naive. Still, income disparity is an issue that desperately needs to be addressed, so I'm glad that so many people are fighting to make sure it can't be ignored.
Sorry to reply to my own post, but there is another reason that unauthorized access and trespassing shouldn't be treated the same: physical presence and intent. In order to trespass I believe you have to know you are doing so and be physically present, hence the need for no trespassing signs. But it's completely possible to access a website by accident.
.jpg files from porn thumbnail sites based on certain keywords. Unfortunately one of the links lead back to Google, the spider was multithreaded and went nuts, and it started querying Google so fast that it violated Google's ToS. It was never his intention for his porn spider to pound Google, but thanks to a little stupidity it did, and under this he'd be a criminal (instead of just a moron).
One of my old coworkers once got our office IP address banned by Google. He had decided to *ahem* automate his porn collection by writing a recursive spider to collect
It strikes me that they are trying to equate "unauthorized access" of a computer to trespassing. The hitch is that the two don't equate very well, as unauthorized access will vary from situation to situation whereas trespassing is strictly defined. For instance trespassing:
I invite someone over for dinner.
I tell them I have a no shoes in the house rule.
They refuse to take off their shoes.
I tell them to leave, but they refuse. They are trespassing because they refuse to leave, not taking off their shoes isn't relevant.
Unauthorized access:
I invite someone over for dinner.
I tell them I have a no shoes in the house rule.
They refuse to take off their shoes.
They would now be in criminal violation, just because they didn't follow my rules.
I have a feeling this won't hold up in court, no matter what the DOJ wants. If nothing else, treating ToS as legal documents would be a jurisdictional nightmare. For instance: Would you have to abide by Facebook's ToS on every site with a "Like" button and a FB tracking cookie? If I write in my site's ToS that all spam is unauthorized access, can I get Jeff Bezos thrown in jail every time Amazon sends me another coupon I didn't ask for?
Yes, but most people don't walk around with scanners in their pocket.
Yes they do, they're called phones.
Disabling SSID is clunky too. Both approaches effect the user's experience.
/. users, but I was surprised at just how easy it was, any kid can do it.
But really what expectation of privacy do you really have when you are broadcasting a radio signal? It's not as if Google is decrypting your data. In the US I believe that would be illegal, and generally not something they would be interested in doing anyway. But recording a signal you are broadcasting I believe is still a-ok.
As far as security goes, I ran an experiment last year and I was really surprised just how bad wireless security really is. I just downloaded KissMac and set it to work on all the wireless networks reaching my computer (about 25 or so usually). I didn't use packet insertion, and I just used the Apple Airport card that came with the computer. Within a week it had cracked every single one that wasn't using WPA2 (nearly none of them were), and filled a hard drive with their network activity. I know that won't surprise a lot of
There are a number of stylus (stylii?) for the iPad, ones good enough to to draw cartoons, let alone write. I'd probably utilize the camera too though. Just don't let the professors know your filming, lest you give them stage fright.
This is a pretty clunky, it's akin to adding _nomap to every url you don't want indexed. Google might want to come up with a more elegant solution.
At the same time, Google doesn't really need to offer any solution at all. "Is it just me, or should this 'service' be an explicit opt-in?" You are opting in when you decide to start broadcasting radio waves. Complaining about having your wifi recorded is like yelling in a public place and then complaining that people notice.
Google might offer to ignore a network, but no one else will.
I'd tend to agree, with the caveat that I suspect that there likely is a historical bias that we haven't quite caught up with yet. I strongly doubt that you're going to see any racial bigotry in today's market... but it takes a generation or two for people that were discriminated against to catch up. The 1960s weren't so long ago, and even the 90s were profoundly racist. A child requires an upbringing where they are free to explore. It takes time before you start to see a statistically significant number of the children of an oppressed people begin to innovate in hi-tech fields previously unavailable to them.
"Imagine if the U.S. authorities wanted to do a house search at my home, go through my private papers. There would be a hell of a fight. It's absolutely unacceptable.'"
That would be nice, but I don't think it is very likely. Access to the court system is a matter of how much you are willing to spend, particularly in criminal defense matters.
For a group concerned about military security, like DARPA, denying access based upon behavioural changes may be appropriate. After all, it may demonstrate bribery or blackmail or some other change of heart.
Or getting shot at. Isn't the saying that life in the military consists of long stretches of boredom, occasionally interrupted by brief periods of utter terror? I'd hate to lose access to the network the moment I needed it most just because an IUD just put a shard of metal in my hand, making it difficult to talk or type at my normal rate.
I was just spit balling. Sorry if I've never done any high frequency trading.
Perhaps you should look around and realize that this is Slashdot, not the House of Representatives. This discussion is just food for thought. No one, regardless of their qualifications, is here to solve anything.
I was specifically talking about Window's Genuine Advantage, I should have been more clear. Apple is certainly guilty of some nasty DRM schemes, but they don't really effect me because I don't use the iTunes store, and I deleted the App Store as soon as I noticed it on the doc. I'm only talking about the fact that OS X doesn't hassle me upon installation like Windows does.
Operations in the US would generally require employees on US soil or US citizens. Both are already taxed.
Paul's question, "why more folks aren't using FreeBSD on the desktop?" can be answered in two words: hardware support. My business partner is a huge proponent of BSD, and so am I... but the only on the servers.
One time we installed NetBSD on an old laptop. It ran ok so long as you kept the power supply in the office freezer. Otherwise it would start to smoke. No graphics card or wifi, but that's to be expected. And USB devices were pretty hit and miss.
I'm sure BSD (in general) has probably come a long way since then, but I really don't care to find out. Installing a strange new OS doesn't give me satisfaction anymore. I haven't even booted into Linux for a couple years. And I've gotten too lazy to bother with Windows and their crazy DRM schemes. At the risk of sounding like an fanboy, Apple really did something right when they bought NeXTStep. OS X is perfectly positioned at the intersection of power vs convenience. It would be very hard to give up. I'm not exactly thrilled with iOS creeping in, but I suppose if they screw OS X up I can always just install an old version.
It seems to me that we would have far fewer problems if we: 1) Taxed capital gains as income. 2) Added a couple more tax brackets, up to 50% of earnings above $500K 3) Eliminated corporate income tax, and redrafted "corporate personhood".
Taxing capital gains as income would lower the tax rate for low-middle class retired people living off their investments, while doubling it for bankers making over 100K a year in the market. That would take a lot of the incentive out of high frequency trading.
We also need to reform the way we treat corporations. There is no need to tax them, as every penny they make will eventually wind up in someone's hands (where it will be taxed). The flip side is we need to cut way back on their "rights". A corporation should only be empowered to enter into contracts and indemnify it's employees from financial liability. No campaign contributions, no lobbyists, no involvement in politics whatsoever. Their free speech ends at ad copy for their products.
I'm actually a pretty anti-tax person, I don't even like fiat currencies, but within the current system I think those measures would improve things.
There isn't much real information in the "article". There is a 2 minute video of Bill Gates discussing in very broad terms his support of a transaction tax, and his opinion that it will never happen in the US. There is a link to wikipedia describing a Tobin tax, which is a tax on currency exchange transactions. But Gate's doesn't seem to be discussing a tax on currency transactions. Then there is a link to an image of 2007 British tax code, which doesn't exactly explain what Bill is in favor of enacting either.
I sympathize with the parent's outlook. How can we trust US government officials to not slant the playing field toward the wealthy (their "base", as Bush famously called them)?
A hand built PC vs an iMac isn't a very good comparison, as you're not factoring in labor, marketing, industrial design, support, etc. all of which are factors that contribute to the iMacs price. Cutting out marketing, and even industrial design (I'm not asking you to hit the iMac's diminutive footprint), if you were going to sell your hand-built machines as a full time business, how much would you charge to research, build, and support them?
Factoring back in industrial design: if you look at Apple's market share it's telling that in the areas where design matters most, they are excelling. In the desktop market design is more of a luxury, but it's more critical in the laptop market (where Apple's market share is much higher). Building a desktop from parts isn't much of a challenge, but building a laptop from parts is. Building one that can compete with a Macbook Pro is very hard.
Wow, that's a ripoff all right. The last two places I've lived took bank transfers, no fee. The current place knows they can't get away with a fee like that as the alternative is to drop off the check on my way in at the front dest. I imagine they prefer the transfer as it eliminates the possibility of bouncing checks.
The spelling is correct in the US. From the New Oxford American Dictionary:
cheque |tek|
noun
British spelling of check 3.
check 2 |CHek|(Brit. cheque )
noun
a written order to a bank to pay a stated sum from the drawer's account: he was awarded a check for $1,000.
ORIGIN early 18th cent. (originally denoting a check stub): variant of check1, in the sense ‘device for checking the amount of an item.’
Actually no, I pay my rent electronically.
But you're right in the sense that rent is pretty much the last hold out. Mortgages are generally all electronic now. I don't think I've paid anything else with a check since the 90s. All my bills are auto-billed. It was actually a problem when I moved to a different state, because they wanted a utility bill in addition to a lease to establish residency and I didn't have any.
What the hell is a check?
whoosh
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The Netflix exodus wasn't just because of the price increase. People understand price increases. It was about the non-chalent contempt that they showed their customers by wording their email "don't you dare complain, the increase is less then the cost of that fancy coffee you're sucking on". The price increase was of course a big factor, but compared to renting at Blockbuster in the 90s, even with the increase Netflix is a steal. The Quickster thing was just icing, the cake was baked and burned.
It was the sort of dumbass move only someone with a job title that abbreviates to a three letter acronym could make. Speaking as the CEO of a small company, I'd say that the brass had their heads so far up their own asses that they honestly couldn't see what was going to happen. My advice: if you're the CEO, you owe it to the company to spend at least 3 hours a day doing customer service or tech support, so that you know what the people you are serving want. Even if you can't give it to them, you know what to shoot for. Otherwise, you can let a singe sentence slide (the latte thing in Netflix case) and ruin a business hundreds or thousands of people have worked tirelessly on.