in my mind a laser satellite (of whatever kind, IR/gamma/blue/green/red/radio/microwave) which is capable of firing every 120 mins is ITSELF a WMD... sure it may not be capable of wiping out a couple square kilometers of land for one shot, but operating over enought time it would vaporize, kill, maim just as many.
and those "rods from god", in my understanding, were to be used against underground hardeneded bunkers, for destroying the installation. Again playing against the energy curve is a bad idea. You could use a couple thousand soldiers to get the underground bunked without spending a couple billion to develop the system, and a couple hundred million to send it up for launching.
then the satellites you have up there to control global networks/weather/communication/internet/imaging/ec t? launch an interceptor sat, or a nuke in orbit and detonate.
"never mind those 300,000 people that went blind from the nuclear blast in russia, we just cleaned up 14% of chinas weather satellites."
"It makes a hell of a differents, because the chineese will no longer (if they decide to use linux) use non free formats and generations of chineese will not grow up accostumed to MS software, but to linux."
how you got modded up keels me over and over.
linux is free. therefor it cannot be 'sold' to anyone, only the service contract can be sold if it is an enterprise verision bundled by some OSS company.
any chinese company is free to take linux and convert it.
and secondly, if a product is not paid for, aka "copyright infringed upon" by copying and DRM/registration breaking, is it still a sale of forigne goods?
indeed, teflon is responsible for killing some birds, when heated, the fumes go up, and the birds have a very high sensitivity to the fumes, and croak.
guelph isn't all its cracked up to be, im glad someone was able to key in on my local.
guelph admits as many people as possible to get the $$ from them, and from the government (apparently the school gets money for each student attending in each year with the money going up for every level of education that they pass.)
sure sure it gets the award for best undergrad something smorgashboard, but im not seeing anything special there at guelph.
and i think ill change my sig before guelph's grades or my personal info gets cracked by someone:)
after finding a faster way to do a problem, or by skipping steps, and being able to demonstrate to all the teachers how to do complete solutions, in addition to being able to teach my peers...on many tests i recieved very very very very poor grades because i skipped steps, (which were for me, unnessisary because much or all of the math i could do in my head.)
i would proceed to talk to the teacher, (this is more Grade school and HS im talking about) and show them i knew what was going on. They would proceed in 95% of the cases to not increase the marks citing "you did not show the process", i would then state that i knew the process so well that i did not need to write it down 40 times on a test. At this point many of my teachers went into "denial" and cited how marks were given out for parts of the process, and i then rebuttaled with showing that my answer was correct, and an improper process would lead to the wrong answer.
all in all, the teachers were not out for someone who understood the work, but for someone who could replicate what they wrote down, there is precious little room for INNOVATION in the classroom, even at higher levels of learning, this INNOVATION is put very low on a list of things to do.
I liked Comp-Sci classes because i could innovate within a boundry of rules as much as possible. and it was probably my favourite class.
I have found a good peer group, it works out well.
I do blame others, because a 6 year old can only take so much of "you're doing it the wrong way, this is the right way" "but teacher, look at this" "never mind that, do it how i showed you"
In conclusion, by BOLDLY following others, you get no new advancements, but by creating something of your own you innovate and advance yourself and others.(current self challenges are creating an UberFreeTextbook series that is pretty much the best thing for education(complete with quiz questions and many other tidbits, i anticipate it will take 20-30 years to complete)
ps. why is everyone responding anonymously to my original? Scared or something?:)
i would wonder if you have ever been in a situation where your mind is totally focused on something and no other thoughts enter your mind, i call it "zen mode" or "death mode", because nothing really disurbs me, i just work.
if these kids were in "zen mode", they might not have realized their actions were reprehensable.
students POV:
Dude, we got in, took these SSN, didn't do anything with them, we are morally OK. (i and many of my gifted peers tend to factor morality strongly into daily situations)
Teacher POV:
Shit, some students got into the database, we need to make an example of them to show other students to fall into line.
nobody indeed likes a know-it-all, the same goes in competative sports.
"Geeze he won again"
"I hate it how he gets 25 points a game"
People are envyous of what they do not have.
Something in the bible about coveting something or other, (neighbors wife?) but it could be applied here too.(coveting the skills/traits of another)
I would also have you note that people who are away from the baseline on IQ tests suffer worse(and more numerous)neurological disorders.
Some people escape them, but often gifted students and up are drawn to focus on non socializing situations(or just get frusterated playing with non gifted peers with a different conception of fun, playing, entertainment, ect) and so have not developed those skills. As a result, their emotional development is limited.
some systems can be gamed, especially in some memorization and regurgitate situations. In 6 days a person can memorize a great deal of information. Lists of figures and facts, along with associated points make for a great deal of knowledge, but applying that knowledge is important also. Knowledge is the first step to wisdom i would think.
of course i was interested in 6 daying the course, just to prove it was possible to myself and to go into the depths of my mind. I Put Myself Up Against The Wall And Knocked It Down The Hard Way.
doing things the hard way often gets you a great deal of animosity rather than being a yessir and following the accepted procedure.(in this case, going to class and lectures..) Attitude is important, but not so important.
And i never said this school didnt challenge me, only this course i wanted to try it on.
and i will not get into the can of worms which is the university education system in any country...(short history, education==bucks, people not getting into education==no bucks, schools decreasing standards to let less educated people in to make more money for the both of them == true)
Students who demonstrate intelligence beyond their years or insight into problems which the teacher cannot comprehend are VERY threatening to the teacher.
I was identified as "gifted" between grades 2 and 3. People didn't have to tell me that, I was understanding concepts beyond the level of my peers, it worked out luckily that i had SEVERAL peers who were approaching the "Gifted" level, and one who was also "gifted".
I would note that due to the inherent difficulties with IQ/aptitude testing in general nothing beyond 2 standard deviations from the norm is measured. If you happen to be two standard deviations or further away (in the higher direction as IQ is measured) then you are considered gifted, to my knowledge.
A demonstration of what I could do was nessisary to myself upon entering university. I used one class with a 100% final (i opted out of the midterm which ws 40%, and the course outline was re-weighted), i skipped all lectures, and classes, and generally ignored the class for 2.5 months, then with about one week left until the final exam, i started studying. In that week i managed to "learn" or as i like to call it, play the system and procure an 85% in the course(Canadian University). I went from nothing to 85% in about 6 days.
Lots of my peers were very mad at me for that, most of them recieved lower than 85%... The teacher was amazed and called me up to see what was going on. He didn't believe that i wasn't cheating and checked my exam against those of students seated around me. Mine checked out perfectly.
long story short, teachers and peers are threatened by those who have exceptional skills and abilities. The government does not do enought to help "gifted" students. By grade 4, i had learned to shut up and stay put. They killed my inner spirit.
Who wants to teach someone who already knows the answers?
we all know this, he blows it up with his jetpack and has problems for the rest of his life with cancer and such.
he brings in the butcher of mon seralit or something and gets all the money he ever wanted, then he has a chance to kill Han and doesn't, because he rules that much.
looks like the site is dead, all gone, the link is to macemulation or something like that.
however, if this company has gone belly up, it likely did not spend muchc money actually developing Cherry-OS and its various products, and if the packages were selling for 10 000 a pop...
someone just got away with a fsck of a lot of money.
i say continue to persue the owner, and civially sue him for money.
take your ID's and swipe them all over the place at every single possible location. overload the database.
hire some leet haxxorrs to steal the database, and watch it all burn to the ground.
or as a last resort, post the ip adress to the server as a link(im assuming its going to be connected to the internet) on the/. front page , instant flaming server.
and finally, im canadian, and i already will need a PASSPORT to cross over into the 'friendly' southern neighbor i have. (currently i can take a 10 min walk, and throw a stone across the boarder)
well i do belive because the server isnt moving relative to the rest of the/. crowd its miles per hit would be zero. pretty good.
(this does not account for the wavelength fluctuations of the server/graviational effects/dead babies/solar eclipses/black holes/white holes/michael jackson/QM effects/microsoft or FUD.)
thanks.
returning you to your regularily programmed state.
I lied on my application for a job, instead of putting OO.org, abiword, wordperfect, ect as my expert skills......
i put down Word. i put down Excel. i put down Powerpoint.
I had to do "skill testing", which included a typing test for speed/accuracy on some other app, making a chart in excel, and EXACTLY copying a letter from a printed page to word.
Suffice is to say, i got the job, but i havn't used Word/Excel for a few years now. On all my applications i still write down Word/Excel/Powerpoint. When the landscape of office applications changes, i will switch my 'expertise' to the current wordprocessor/spreadsheet/presentation software of the day.
I have beaten the system. I suggest you do the same if you have confidence in your skills.
i just ran out of mod points...else i would have done it myself.
this is very important, instead of inciting a stumbling in the dark/. mob of opinions allow us to understand the situation by using good journalistic practices(not the ones commonly used in the media today)
"But it *would* have happened eventually, because in infinity, all possible things happen. "... Particularly, in the real world, doing some things changes the world so that other things can't be done. If Adam and Eve had said "Ok, we're not supposed to eat from this tree... let's chop it down to make sure we can't" then no matter how infinite the amount of time they lived, they couldn't have eaten from it.
"
You have got a good point, but let me counter with some QM that I learned.
Let us say you hit your head on a wall, you are immortal, the wall is immortal(assume proton and neutron decay does not occur), and both the wall and you are made up of regular atoms.
Now, let T approach infinity, and the chance for any atom in the wall to not impact any atoms in your body when hitting the wall with your head is represented by P.
If P is non-zero, (and by definition, the wall and you being a collection of normal atoms minus proton neutron decay) as T->inf the chance of a successful pass through the wall approaches 1.
Your arguement is wrong because you attempt to push a mathematical reason into the Physical and Quantum Mechanical Fields where that kind of math may not always apply at fringe situations.
Since Adam and Eve were regular immortal human beings, eventually they would have done EVERYTHING. They would have been platypus'es after (10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10!)! seconds maybe, I don't know what/when they would have been, but I DO know they would have done everything physically possibly and impossible with an infinite amount of time.
I just love it when another country impresses its ideals on the rest of the world;
As a person living in Canada I Have Already Emailed my Member of Parliment encouraging for strong independant action in all fields, highlighting this IP issue. Canada needs to make its own laws, and adhere to the WTO on matters of international trade, and the USA will ignore the WTO and anyone else if their policies are not benifitial to them.
Case and point, softwood lumber, sugar, steel, and tobacco industry tariffs and that stupid act which allows companies harmed to recompense themselves off of the tariff fund.
The USA is only hurting itself for international relationships, and we Canadians live mostly a couple 100 Km from the border.
if the troops behaved badly/improperly in the line of duty then they already have serious rammifications and consequences. They killed a hostage negotiator/retriever. Both sides are argueingn about what went on, the USA says its ok, Italy, the people in the car, and other witnesses say it was not ok(ie the soldiers behaved wrongly and fired without adequate warning).
and i believe this is a report, not a feverishly published piece of information, it has already gone through the spin cycle that is washington, and exxonerates the soldiers of all responsibility.
classification isn't so good when the italians may publish their side of the story too. it only weakens the USA's position in the media (less material to work with)
Slashdot Mirror
in my mind a laser satellite (of whatever kind, IR/gamma/blue/green/red/radio/microwave) which is capable of firing every 120 mins is ITSELF a WMD... sure it may not be capable of wiping out a couple square kilometers of land for one shot, but operating over enought time it would vaporize, kill, maim just as many.
and those "rods from god", in my understanding, were to be used against underground hardeneded bunkers, for destroying the installation. Again playing against the energy curve is a bad idea. You could use a couple thousand soldiers to get the underground bunked without spending a couple billion to develop the system, and a couple hundred million to send it up for launching.
weaponizing of space is a bad idea.
c t? launch an interceptor sat, or a nuke in orbit and detonate.
nuff said.
then the satellites you have up there to control global networks/weather/communication/internet/imaging/e
"never mind those 300,000 people that went blind from the nuclear blast in russia, we just cleaned up 14% of chinas weather satellites."
"It makes a hell of a differents, because the chineese will no longer (if they decide to use linux) use non free formats and generations of chineese will not grow up accostumed to MS software, but to linux."
how you got modded up keels me over and over.
linux is free. therefor it cannot be 'sold' to anyone, only the service contract can be sold if it is an enterprise verision bundled by some OSS company.
any chinese company is free to take linux and convert it.
and secondly, if a product is not paid for, aka "copyright infringed upon" by copying and DRM/registration breaking, is it still a sale of forigne goods?
k.thx.byby.
indeed, teflon is responsible for killing some birds, when heated, the fumes go up, and the birds have a very high sensitivity to the fumes, and croak.
i belive you need 25 STR to throw such a weapon and have it return to you...
Nethack for PS3/XBox360 anyone?
guelph isn't all its cracked up to be, im glad someone was able to key in on my local.
:)
guelph admits as many people as possible to get the $$ from them, and from the government (apparently the school gets money for each student attending in each year with the money going up for every level of education that they pass.)
sure sure it gets the award for best undergrad something smorgashboard, but im not seeing anything special there at guelph.
and i think ill change my sig before guelph's grades or my personal info gets cracked by someone
i know some people at windsor, it is pretty easy.
there are ways to kill a mans inner spirit,
:)
after finding a faster way to do a problem, or by skipping steps, and being able to demonstrate to all the teachers how to do complete solutions, in addition to being able to teach my peers...on many tests i recieved very very very very poor grades because i skipped steps, (which were for me, unnessisary because much or all of the math i could do in my head.)
i would proceed to talk to the teacher, (this is more Grade school and HS im talking about) and show them i knew what was going on. They would proceed in 95% of the cases to not increase the marks citing "you did not show the process", i would then state that i knew the process so well that i did not need to write it down 40 times on a test. At this point many of my teachers went into "denial" and cited how marks were given out for parts of the process, and i then rebuttaled with showing that my answer was correct, and an improper process would lead to the wrong answer.
all in all, the teachers were not out for someone who understood the work, but for someone who could replicate what they wrote down, there is precious little room for INNOVATION in the classroom, even at higher levels of learning, this INNOVATION is put very low on a list of things to do.
I liked Comp-Sci classes because i could innovate within a boundry of rules as much as possible. and it was probably my favourite class.
I have found a good peer group, it works out well.
I do blame others, because a 6 year old can only take so much of
"you're doing it the wrong way, this is the right way"
"but teacher, look at this"
"never mind that, do it how i showed you"
In conclusion, by BOLDLY following others, you get no new advancements, but by creating something of your own you innovate and advance yourself and others.(current self challenges are creating an UberFreeTextbook series that is pretty much the best thing for education(complete with quiz questions and many other tidbits, i anticipate it will take 20-30 years to complete)
ps. why is everyone responding anonymously to my original? Scared or something?
i would wonder if you have ever been in a situation where your mind is totally focused on something and no other thoughts enter your mind, i call it "zen mode" or "death mode", because nothing really disurbs me, i just work.
if these kids were in "zen mode", they might not have realized their actions were reprehensable.
students POV:
Dude, we got in, took these SSN, didn't do anything with them, we are morally OK. (i and many of my gifted peers tend to factor morality strongly into daily situations)
Teacher POV:
Shit, some students got into the database, we need to make an example of them to show other students to fall into line.
nobody indeed likes a know-it-all, the same goes in competative sports.
"Geeze he won again"
"I hate it how he gets 25 points a game"
People are envyous of what they do not have.
Something in the bible about coveting something or other, (neighbors wife?) but it could be applied here too.(coveting the skills/traits of another)
I would also have you note that people who are away from the baseline on IQ tests suffer worse(and more numerous)neurological disorders.
Some people escape them, but often gifted students and up are drawn to focus on non socializing situations(or just get frusterated playing with non gifted peers with a different conception of fun, playing, entertainment, ect) and so have not developed those skills. As a result, their emotional development is limited.
some systems can be gamed, especially in some memorization and regurgitate situations. In 6 days a person can memorize a great deal of information. Lists of figures and facts, along with associated points make for a great deal of knowledge, but applying that knowledge is important also. Knowledge is the first step to wisdom i would think.
of course i was interested in 6 daying the course, just to prove it was possible to myself and to go into the depths of my mind. I Put Myself Up Against The Wall And Knocked It Down The Hard Way.
doing things the hard way often gets you a great deal of animosity rather than being a yessir and following the accepted procedure.(in this case, going to class and lectures..) Attitude is important, but not so important.
And i never said this school didnt challenge me, only this course i wanted to try it on.
and i will not get into the can of worms which is the university education system in any country...(short history, education==bucks, people not getting into education==no bucks, schools decreasing standards to let less educated people in to make more money for the both of them == true)
this story is relevant because people like wine, and were not able to order out of state wine in some cases without tariffs.
modparent up,
Students who demonstrate intelligence beyond their years or insight into problems which the teacher cannot comprehend are VERY threatening to the teacher.
I was identified as "gifted" between grades 2 and 3. People didn't have to tell me that, I was understanding concepts beyond the level of my peers, it worked out luckily that i had SEVERAL peers who were approaching the "Gifted" level, and one who was also "gifted".
I would note that due to the inherent difficulties with IQ/aptitude testing in general nothing beyond 2 standard deviations from the norm is measured. If you happen to be two standard deviations or further away (in the higher direction as IQ is measured) then you are considered gifted, to my knowledge.
A demonstration of what I could do was nessisary to myself upon entering university. I used one class with a 100% final (i opted out of the midterm which ws 40%, and the course outline was re-weighted), i skipped all lectures, and classes, and generally ignored the class for 2.5 months, then with about one week left until the final exam, i started studying. In that week i managed to "learn" or as i like to call it, play the system and procure an 85% in the course(Canadian University). I went from nothing to 85% in about 6 days.
Lots of my peers were very mad at me for that, most of them recieved lower than 85%... The teacher was amazed and called me up to see what was going on. He didn't believe that i wasn't cheating and checked my exam against those of students seated around me. Mine checked out perfectly.
long story short, teachers and peers are threatened by those who have exceptional skills and abilities. The government does not do enought to help "gifted" students. By grade 4, i had learned to shut up and stay put. They killed my inner spirit.
Who wants to teach someone who already knows the answers?
i wanted to mod you, but instead i will use gas constants.....
i mole of gas is about 22 litres of volume.
therefore you need a HUGE SPACE to HOLD that many atoms. It's different story when talking about one mole of mercury, or iron, or some solid....
pv=nrt
p=nrt/v
p=(1)(8.314)(298)/Volume of choice (metres cubed)
note there are 100*100*100 cm^3 in a meter^3
how big is the ipod again?
oh ya, pretty much 20 cm^3 so the pressure for a mole of a gas would be HUGE HUGE, and have risk of pressure causing explosion.
mod me up
like i said, giving up all of these smarts is the best thing for the world. screw those journals.
we all know this, he blows it up with his jetpack and has problems for the rest of his life with cancer and such.
he brings in the butcher of mon seralit or something and gets all the money he ever wanted, then he has a chance to kill Han and doesn't, because he rules that much.
he rules. ig88 drools.
looks like the site is dead, all gone, the link is to macemulation or something like that.
however, if this company has gone belly up, it likely did not spend muchc money actually developing Cherry-OS and its various products, and if the packages were selling for 10 000 a pop...
someone just got away with a fsck of a lot of money.
i say continue to persue the owner, and civially sue him for money.
buy mccdonalds and throw it around the store,
/. front page , instant flaming server.
take your ID's and swipe them all over the place at every single possible location. overload the database.
hire some leet haxxorrs to steal the database, and watch it all burn to the ground.
or as a last resort, post the ip adress to the server as a link(im assuming its going to be connected to the internet) on the
and finally, im canadian, and i already will need a PASSPORT to cross over into the 'friendly' southern neighbor i have. (currently i can take a 10 min walk, and throw a stone across the boarder)
i got nothing else.
well i do belive because the server isnt moving relative to the rest of the /. crowd its miles per hit would be zero. pretty good.
(this does not account for the wavelength fluctuations of the server/graviational effects/dead babies/solar eclipses/black holes/white holes/michael jackson/QM effects/microsoft or FUD.)
thanks.
returning you to your regularily programmed state.
I lied on my application for a job, instead of putting OO.org, abiword, wordperfect, ect as my expert skills......
i put down Word.
i put down Excel.
i put down Powerpoint.
I had to do "skill testing", which included a typing test for speed/accuracy on some other app, making a chart in excel, and EXACTLY copying a letter from a printed page to word.
Suffice is to say, i got the job, but i havn't used Word/Excel for a few years now. On all my applications i still write down Word/Excel/Powerpoint. When the landscape of office applications changes, i will switch my 'expertise' to the current wordprocessor/spreadsheet/presentation software of the day.
I have beaten the system. I suggest you do the same if you have confidence in your skills.
And M$ says OSS is communist, what a bunch of hippocrites!
people blind from birth will not be able to use this to see. Their brains havn't even developed the "code" to interpret the optic nerve signals.
people who have lost eyes, or through macular degeneration, will be able to regain some of their lost visual freedom.
excellent work scientists, keep it up.
mod him up scotty.
/. mob of opinions allow us to understand the situation by using good journalistic practices(not the ones commonly used in the media today)
i just ran out of mod points...else i would have done it myself.
this is very important, instead of inciting a stumbling in the dark
"
...
"But it *would* have happened eventually, because in infinity, all possible things happen. "
Particularly, in the real world, doing some things changes the world so that other things can't be done. If Adam and Eve had said "Ok, we're not supposed to eat from this tree... let's chop it down to make sure we can't" then no matter how infinite the amount of time they lived, they couldn't have eaten from it.
"
You have got a good point, but let me counter with some QM that I learned.
Let us say you hit your head on a wall, you are immortal, the wall is immortal(assume proton and neutron decay does not occur), and both the wall and you are made up of regular atoms.
Now, let T approach infinity, and the chance for any atom in the wall to not impact any atoms in your body when hitting the wall with your head is represented by P.
If P is non-zero, (and by definition, the wall and you being a collection of normal atoms minus proton neutron decay) as T->inf the chance of a successful pass through the wall approaches 1.
Your arguement is wrong because you attempt to push a mathematical reason into the Physical and Quantum Mechanical Fields where that kind of math may not always apply at fringe situations.
Since Adam and Eve were regular immortal human beings, eventually they would have done EVERYTHING. They would have been platypus'es after
(10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10!)! seconds maybe, I don't know what/when they would have been, but I DO know they would have done everything physically possibly and impossible with an infinite amount of time.
I just love it when another country impresses its ideals on the rest of the world;
As a person living in Canada I Have Already Emailed my Member of Parliment encouraging for strong independant action in all fields, highlighting this IP issue. Canada needs to make its own laws, and adhere to the WTO on matters of international trade, and the USA will ignore the WTO and anyone else if their policies are not benifitial to them.
Case and point, softwood lumber, sugar, steel, and tobacco industry tariffs and that stupid act which allows companies harmed to recompense themselves off of the tariff fund.
The USA is only hurting itself for international relationships, and we Canadians live mostly a couple 100 Km from the border.
ps The border is unguarded too.
mod parent down
if the troops behaved badly/improperly in the line of duty then they already have serious rammifications and consequences. They killed a hostage negotiator/retriever. Both sides are argueingn about what went on, the USA says its ok, Italy, the people in the car, and other witnesses say it was not ok(ie the soldiers behaved wrongly and fired without adequate warning).
and i believe this is a report, not a feverishly published piece of information, it has already gone through the spin cycle that is washington, and exxonerates the soldiers of all responsibility.
classification isn't so good when the italians may publish their side of the story too. it only weakens the USA's position in the media (less material to work with)
Word.
..... /. editors...
I'm looking at the title and i KNOW einstien did not discover any sort of ring thing....
how about 'Near perfect gravitational Lensing observed"
or
"Gravitational lensing futher supported by exceptional evidence."