I saw this article on the front page of the NZ Herald today. I wonder how many media outlets ran it. The site must have been hammered much harder than just a simple Slashdot effect.
Here's some facts... the front server, the one linked above is running Apache on what I think is OS X.
The actual joke database is on a different port - 2001 - and is supposed to be two OS X servers. Whatever it is, it died. Not answering.
Innovation eh? I found this great quote linked from the Microsoft Research page...
Microsoft didn't exactly have a reputation for innovation;
after all, it bought its flagship DOS operating system for a pittance
from a small Seattle company and then licensed it to IBM--and the rest
of the world--for huge profits.
Today, the perception that Microsoft is incapable of innovation is
slowly changing. But critics still decry the company's research
efforts as unimpressive, particularly in light of those by Xerox
Corp.'s fabled Palo Alto Research Center, the yardstick by which all
other computer-science research labs have come to be measured.
I think the 2% that is missing is the Visual Basic scripting. I haven't been able to find that.
Not that I miss the propogation of viruses or anything - just that I can't do some automation.:-)
But yes, it soundly whoops MS Office '97. Far more features. And they are going to lose the "integrated desktop" in version 6, so that is good. Couldn't be more perfect...
I know this is really quite out of place after all the anecdotal evidence and whims being bandied as facts, but here are some quotes from a genuine, honest, professional.
I was surprised to run across these. My sister wandered past and asked if I could scan a page out of a book so she could email it to a friend, and this was the page!
Our sexual desires return for fulfilment to whatever awakened them in the first place. This 'imprinting' must be consciously acknowledged before change can take place.
The belief that one is born homosexual is held on to in order to relieve one of the responsiblity and difficulty of changing a subconscious orientation. The first step out is to agree with God that homosexual activities are sin which one is morally accountable for, and which one can and must be freed from.
People grow into labels. Once the homosexual label is accepted, the implied characteristics being to develop in that life, because what we believe about ourselves is of absolute importance in determining everything that we do and say.
Are homosexuals born that way? I have yet to meet a homosexual who has a good, strong father and an affectionate mother.
We all need non-erotic same-sex love. It is necessary to learn how to distinguish between our sexual need and our non-erotic need for affection.
Premature emotional disengagement between child and same-sex parent, for whatever reason, is the most common cause of homosexual orientation, but not the only one.
Anyone who is insecure, in grief, depressed, rejected, or otherwise severely stressed, is vulnerable to becoming emotionally dependant on another of either gender.
God doesn't tease. If He condemns it, He doesn't cause it. If He causes it, He won't condemn it. If He condemns it, He can also provide the way out if called upon to do so.
Quotes are taken from: pp95, Chapter 20, Living Wisdom, David Riddell; Futher reading: Reparative Therapy, Dr Nicolozi
Also, have a look at Sy Roger's website. Interesting speaker on the topic.
Maybe you or I can't tell, but a trained optometrist sure can.
An optometrist can look at someone's eye and say... "Oh my dog, you've got a huge cataract!", or, "Oh my dog, your retina is torn!", or, "Oh my dog, you need correctional lenses."
So no. Way off topic, and far distinct from reality.
1. The condition does not exist as a physical defect.
And there on the first step your whole analogy falls apart.
Blindness is often caused by birth defects, accidents, aging, etc. It is a physical defect.
You would do well to consider the various opinions objectively before you start applying your "tender loving care". You may be hurting people yourself.
You are correct.
I haven't rubbed shoulders with anyone who identifies themself as a homosexual. I haven't got a friendship with a homosexual of the sort where I could sit them down and talk to them about that sort of thing.
Picking homosexuals at random, eg, that person across the cafe, and then showing them TLC is a bad thing and would come across as patronising.
Most folks want to be cared for a bit, and if they aren't getting affection from the opposite gender, then they could turn to their own for that.
On another note, I have heard doubts over whether Turing really did intentionally kill himself. He had been working with some deadly chemicals, and snacking on an apple while he worked probably wasn't the most clever thing to do...
Homosexuality and gender identity are conditions of birth, and affect something like 11% of the population, to some degree.
Ah, lets think about this for a second... no.
The "homosexuality gene" turned out to be a fraud. The person who thought up that piece of "research" was himself a homosexual. Didn't mention that in the full disclosure section did they now?
In the main, you can not change it.
Absolute nonsense. With Turing the government thought a few hormone injections could solve it. Well, no. Maybe they should have applied leaches in the hope they'd extract the homosexuality from the blood? Quack medical science...
Homosexuality is a conscious decision. People's tastes are conditioned by what they are told.
People like you spout that homosexuality is this, its that, etc, then people believe it. You know horoscopes? How vague and predictable can you get! But no, humans look for some sign of order and come up with the wrong conclusions. Exactly the same with homosexuality.
The same people that are somehow homosexual because of their genes are the exact same people who are being told from the street corners that you could be homosexual, go try it out to make sure.
What a stupid perverse society. If we were really meant to be homosexual then we would be hermaphrodites. Are you surprised that men don't have vaginas, and women don't have penises? Perhaps homosexuality is peversion. Ever think of that?
So no, stop spouting lies about homosexuality. Instead actually try and help people who have been fooled into that lie. They don't need your criticism, they just need some tender cult deprogramming and some real considerate love like anyone else.
Unless there are local root exploits or privilege elevations that a server is vulnerable to, exploiting correctly setup (chroot / set uid / set gid) daemons will have minimal impact.
Assume my smtpd was completely full of bugs. Assume that it was successfully exploited. What damage will I be vulnerable to? Somebody gets to add malicious emails to my SMTP message queue. Well, not a huge deal.
If you've got take the time you can minimise the potential impact of an attack from complete r00ting to temporary Denial of Service.
Heck, I've toyed with writing a proof of concept *nix verison of Code Red using wu-ftp vulnerabilities, rpc.statd vulnerabilities, telnetd vulnerabilities, sendmail vulnerabilities and even BIND vulnerabilities.
wu-what? Don't run that thing.
rpc.statd? Nup, not here.
telnetd? Surely you jest!
sendmail? Ha ha! You must be kidding. qmail (Most people in my LUG run qmail, Exim, or Postfix.)
BIND? Not here.
So tell me again... what was the worm exploiting?
Just like with Code Red attacking IIS, the daemon affected had somehow escaped Quality Assurance without being properly checked (as most of the above software has also) and shouldn't have been run.
So I gotta ask, is Microsoft having a clean sweep in that report a result of their monopoly position with viruses? Or have they innovated in new ways to get infected?
According to the wHOIS info, battlebots.org was registered in August 2000:
Record created: 2000-08-28 06:52:41 UTC by CORE-80
The.com flavour was registered much before that:
Record created on 03-Mar-1999.
Still, CC may have bought the domain off a previous owner.
I thought the whole purpose of having.org and.com was so that different things with the same name could be accomodated. For example, some company has my initials, but I didn't sue their pants off because they have the commercial flavour, and I got the organisation flavour domain name.
August's Netcraft survey has been released. Apache shows a smidgen of a decrease due to some hosting company finally completing conversion of a couple of sites to different software.
So who was right when last month I said that the trend wouldn't continue unless there were a couple thousand more sites left to convert? Was it me or that sold-out journalist?
What happened when an acorn fell on Chicken Little's head? She ran off to the King to tell him the sky was falling.
So an acorn fell on Apache's head. Are you going to run off to tell the CEO the sky is falling as well?
Indeed it is a good read. I'm part way through the transcript of when they were before John P Lane.
Pretty much the whole way through, MonsterHut was spouting BS and attempting to weasel out of answering the Court's questions. Have a read of this. They are fighting over whether enough people have complained about the spamming:
(Page 32) THE COURT: So do you agree, Plaintiffs, that the two percent doesn't apply, as counsel has just stated?
MR. TOOHEY: No, your Honor. We think, and I know you don't want to see my charts, but I've got charts that show the number of E-mails that have been sent out.
THE COURT: Huge number. Huge number. In the millions.
MR. TOOHEY: Sixty-nine million, versus less than eighteen hundred complaints.
THE COURT: Clearly eighteen hundred would not be two percent of the volume up to a point.
MR. TOOHEY: That's correct.
Having read the above ^^^, I gotta say, those people that say "Just delete spam" are helping spammers. Of course the ISP isn't going to get 2% complaints when 99% of the people are just hitting delete! I send spam reports all the time. Use SpamCop, it helps a lot.
And also, the above number is pretty shocking. 69 million emails!
AMD has always had a great utility to display information about the running processor. It works on any processor. I've used it on a Athlon/Thunderbird, K6, Athlon, and even an Intel Celery.
Did you even bother to check with Netcraft as to what the actual cause of Apache's drop was? Are you there? Wakey, wakey?
Since you can't be bothered to follow the link, here's the quote:
Microsoft gains around five and a half per cent of web hosts this
month, and almost 2% of active sites. Primarily this is a result of
two large US installations converting from Solaris.
The large free hosting company Namezero, hosted on the Exodus network, has migrated its front end systems to Windows 2000, as has part of the Network Solutions domain registration system. Network Solutions has moved physically from Digex, to Interland, [where Microsoft held a minority interest, prior to the sale to Micron] as part of the process.
What will happen next month? Apache won't be losing ground, unless Namezero had a couple of thousand domains lying around somewhere on Apache and decide to change them to IIS as well.
Namezero have thousands of domains. As for physical servers, no, they don't have many. The drop in numbers is due to a couple of free web sites that Namezero hosted being shifted.
I don't think it bodes badly for Apache. The author of the article linked was a troll, and comes from an disreputabletrollishbundle of bollocks organisation. Do you think I believe their trash? As much as I eat my faeces.
You may have followed the link to look over the remnants of Quokka. The Quokka photos are at the site of Cowan Alexander Equipment Group, who say:
Cowan Alexander Equipment Group is a leading, national auction company providing capital recovery solutions to
leaders in technology, finance and industry.
See that? Leaders in technology! Leaders in getting thrashed by the dotcom stupidity...
(I just checked the section 508 website. They are using the ALT tags for holding long descriptions. Tut tut. And they have a big spiel about Javascript requirements and popping up new windowss. Both are naughty evil things to do. Hypocrites.)
Look, the people who are infected are too dumb to look after something as critical as a web server. The reason they got in trouble was because they were too dumb to keep up with patches. Don't go and do their work for them, or they will never learn.
What is the best way to learn? With a parent blasting you for a huge bandwidth bill. For your boss firing you for letting the company's database get owned. Having customers ripping you to shreds for destroying something important.
Not until they realise the severity of their actions will they begin to learn. Let them stew in their own "security patch" juices for a bit, and when they are done, pull them out and point them at alternatives.
As someone said before, otherwise you will hear conversations like this:
Hey Bob, you fixed your server for that worm thinga-me-doo-what?
Na Dave, I'm just waiting for the worm that patches it to come past. Someone will write one soon.
On Monday a gentleman on the IBM public relations team talk to the local LUG.
In his presentation he spoke about how Samba is so widely implemented MS would be silly to break compatibility with it, for fear of the backlash of all the irate customers.
Maybe he underestimated MS's stupidity, or perhaps he underestimated the power of their marketing team.
In the past they have slipped various other incompatibilities in that you wouldn't believe, but the lemmings upgraded.
Aw man, and in other news it rips me to hear that a major government department wanted to move to Linux but had to continue with NT because there weren't enough people with Linux experience available.:-(
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I saw this article on the front page of the NZ Herald today. I wonder how many media outlets ran it. The site must have been hammered much harder than just a simple Slashdot effect.
Here's some facts ... the front server, the one linked above is running Apache on what I think is OS X.
The actual joke database is on a different port - 2001 - and is supposed to be two OS X servers. Whatever it is, it died. Not answering.
More details ...
This requires big metal because it needs big power! Nobody said the hardware was free.
If you spend megabucks on hardware, not having to pay for the software softens the blow.
On the other hand, requiring a bunch of machines running Windows to do the exact same task can be expensive too.
Linux is more cost effective because you aren't shelling out several billion in software.
Innovation eh? I found this great quote linked from the Microsoft Research page ...
I think the 2% that is missing is the Visual Basic scripting. I haven't been able to find that.
Not that I miss the propogation of viruses or anything - just that I can't do some automation. :-)
But yes, it soundly whoops MS Office '97. Far more features. And they are going to lose the "integrated desktop" in version 6, so that is good. Couldn't be more perfect ...
I believe you. I'm not saying that homosexuality is non existant. It just isn't as huge as it is supposed to be.
I know this is really quite out of place after all the anecdotal evidence and whims being bandied as facts, but here are some quotes from a genuine, honest, professional.
I was surprised to run across these. My sister wandered past and asked if I could scan a page out of a book so she could email it to a friend, and this was the page!
Quotes are taken from: pp95, Chapter 20, Living Wisdom, David Riddell; Futher reading: Reparative Therapy, Dr Nicolozi
Also, have a look at Sy Roger's website. Interesting speaker on the topic.
Maybe you or I can't tell, but a trained optometrist sure can.
An optometrist can look at someone's eye and say ... "Oh my dog, you've got a huge cataract!", or, "Oh my dog, your retina is torn!", or, "Oh my dog, you need correctional lenses."
So no. Way off topic, and far distinct from reality.
And there on the first step your whole analogy falls apart.
Blindness is often caused by birth defects, accidents, aging, etc. It is a physical defect.
You are correct.
I haven't rubbed shoulders with anyone who identifies themself as a homosexual. I haven't got a friendship with a homosexual of the sort where I could sit them down and talk to them about that sort of thing.
Picking homosexuals at random, eg, that person across the cafe, and then showing them TLC is a bad thing and would come across as patronising.
Homosexuals are people too.
Well in this case you really misunderstood me. :-)
Most folks want to be cared for a bit, and if they aren't getting affection from the opposite gender, then they could turn to their own for that.
On another note, I have heard doubts over whether Turing really did intentionally kill himself. He had been working with some deadly chemicals, and snacking on an apple while he worked probably wasn't the most clever thing to do ...
Ah, lets think about this for a second ... no.
The "homosexuality gene" turned out to be a fraud. The person who thought up that piece of "research" was himself a homosexual. Didn't mention that in the full disclosure section did they now?
Absolute nonsense. With Turing the government thought a few hormone injections could solve it. Well, no. Maybe they should have applied leaches in the hope they'd extract the homosexuality from the blood? Quack medical science ...
Homosexuality is a conscious decision. People's tastes are conditioned by what they are told.
People like you spout that homosexuality is this, its that, etc, then people believe it. You know horoscopes? How vague and predictable can you get! But no, humans look for some sign of order and come up with the wrong conclusions. Exactly the same with homosexuality.
The same people that are somehow homosexual because of their genes are the exact same people who are being told from the street corners that you could be homosexual, go try it out to make sure.
What a stupid perverse society. If we were really meant to be homosexual then we would be hermaphrodites. Are you surprised that men don't have vaginas, and women don't have penises? Perhaps homosexuality is peversion. Ever think of that?
So no, stop spouting lies about homosexuality. Instead actually try and help people who have been fooled into that lie. They don't need your criticism, they just need some tender cult deprogramming and some real considerate love like anyone else.
Unless there are local root exploits or privilege elevations that a server is vulnerable to, exploiting correctly setup (chroot / set uid / set gid) daemons will have minimal impact.
Assume my smtpd was completely full of bugs. Assume that it was successfully exploited. What damage will I be vulnerable to? Somebody gets to add malicious emails to my SMTP message queue. Well, not a huge deal.
If you've got take the time you can minimise the potential impact of an attack from complete r00ting to temporary Denial of Service.
wu-what? Don't run that thing.
rpc.statd? Nup, not here.
telnetd? Surely you jest!
sendmail? Ha ha! You must be kidding. qmail (Most people in my LUG run qmail, Exim, or Postfix.)
BIND? Not here.
So tell me again ... what was the worm exploiting?
Just like with Code Red attacking IIS, the daemon affected had somehow escaped Quality Assurance without being properly checked (as most of the above software has also) and shouldn't have been run.
So I gotta ask, is Microsoft having a clean sweep in that report a result of their monopoly position with viruses? Or have they innovated in new ways to get infected?
According to the wHOIS info, battlebots.org was registered in August 2000:
The .com flavour was registered much before that:
Still, CC may have bought the domain off a previous owner.
I thought the whole purpose of having .org and .com was so that different things with the same name could be accomodated. For example, some company has my initials, but I didn't sue their pants off because they have the commercial flavour, and I got the organisation flavour domain name.
August's Netcraft survey has been released. Apache shows a smidgen of a decrease due to some hosting company finally completing conversion of a couple of sites to different software.
So who was right when last month I said that the trend wouldn't continue unless there were a couple thousand more sites left to convert? Was it me or that sold-out journalist?
What happened when an acorn fell on Chicken Little's head? She ran off to the King to tell him the sky was falling.
So an acorn fell on Apache's head. Are you going to run off to tell the CEO the sky is falling as well?
Indeed it is a good read. I'm part way through the transcript of when they were before John P Lane.
Pretty much the whole way through, MonsterHut was spouting BS and attempting to weasel out of answering the Court's questions. Have a read of this. They are fighting over whether enough people have complained about the spamming:
(Page 32) THE COURT: So do you agree, Plaintiffs, that the two percent doesn't apply, as counsel has just stated?
MR. TOOHEY: No, your Honor. We think, and I know you don't want to see my charts, but I've got charts that show the number of E-mails that have been sent out.
THE COURT: Huge number. Huge number. In the millions.
MR. TOOHEY: Sixty-nine million, versus less than eighteen hundred complaints.
THE COURT: Clearly eighteen hundred would not be two percent of the volume up to a point.
MR. TOOHEY: That's correct.
Having read the above ^^^, I gotta say, those people that say "Just delete spam" are helping spammers. Of course the ISP isn't going to get 2% complaints when 99% of the people are just hitting delete! I send spam reports all the time. Use SpamCop, it helps a lot.
And also, the above number is pretty shocking. 69 million emails!
You're not trying to start a religious war are you?
:-P
This thing is old. It's gone. It's over.
The restraining order was dated the 23rd March 2001 with a hearing on 3 April 2001.
They even have a transcript for the hearing. I'm just downloading it now, so I can't tell you what the outcome of the case was.
AMD has always had a great utility to display information about the running processor. It works on any processor. I've used it on a Athlon/Thunderbird, K6, Athlon, and even an Intel Celery.
http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/bin/cpuinfo.exe [evil-trojan.com ;]
And the driver information page: http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/bin/cpuinfo.txt
Worth noting: my AMD processor had an extra 10MHz thrown in free compared to the rating. :-)
Did you even bother to check with Netcraft as to what the actual cause of Apache's drop was? Are you there? Wakey, wakey?
Since you can't be bothered to follow the link, here's the quote:
What will happen next month? Apache won't be losing ground, unless Namezero had a couple of thousand domains lying around somewhere on Apache and decide to change them to IIS as well.
Namezero have thousands of domains. As for physical servers, no, they don't have many. The drop in numbers is due to a couple of free web sites that Namezero hosted being shifted.
I don't think it bodes badly for Apache. The author of the article linked was a troll, and comes from an disreputable trollish bundle of bollocks organisation. Do you think I believe their trash? As much as I eat my faeces.
You may have followed the link to look over the remnants of Quokka. The Quokka photos are at the site of Cowan Alexander Equipment Group, who say:
See that? Leaders in technology! Leaders in getting thrashed by the dotcom stupidity ...
Thanks you for saying that.
Validation should be server-side, pages should work, and be accessible to everyone. And US government agencies have an extra responsibility.
(I just checked the section 508 website. They are using the ALT tags for holding long descriptions. Tut tut. And they have a big spiel about Javascript requirements and popping up new windowss. Both are naughty evil things to do. Hypocrites.)
Look, the people who are infected are too dumb to look after something as critical as a web server. The reason they got in trouble was because they were too dumb to keep up with patches. Don't go and do their work for them, or they will never learn.
What is the best way to learn? With a parent blasting you for a huge bandwidth bill. For your boss firing you for letting the company's database get owned. Having customers ripping you to shreds for destroying something important.
Not until they realise the severity of their actions will they begin to learn. Let them stew in their own "security patch" juices for a bit, and when they are done, pull them out and point them at alternatives.
As someone said before, otherwise you will hear conversations like this:
On Monday a gentleman on the IBM public relations team talk to the local LUG.
In his presentation he spoke about how Samba is so widely implemented MS would be silly to break compatibility with it, for fear of the backlash of all the irate customers.
Maybe he underestimated MS's stupidity, or perhaps he underestimated the power of their marketing team.
In the past they have slipped various other incompatibilities in that you wouldn't believe, but the lemmings upgraded.
Aw man, and in other news it rips me to hear that a major government department wanted to move to Linux but had to continue with NT because there weren't enough people with Linux experience available. :-(
What do they use on Hotmail? Isn't that McAfee or something?
So that is a likely possibility.