DirectX isn't the same thing as OpenGL, however you can compare D3D and OpenGL. DirectX is for sound, input, and rendering not just rendering, kids.
OpenGL will outlive D3D, since it's what big iron and the 'professionals' use for high end graphics. Also hardware vendors produce GL extentions way before D3D work has even started. GL can use extentions made *after it's release to support more features quickly and easily. ( If you're in one of these camps you never done 3d development, or think all computers are consumer PCs. )
Also if you use DirectX, you're limiting yourself needlessly. If you want the "latest and greatest" , then you're not going to use an API that has no modular extention system to support hw/ideas made after the API release. OpenGL can support hw/algorthims that happened *after it's release. OpenGL also runs on manchines a lot more powerful than your pentium 4 you bought at comp usa.
This is clearly an issue of impromper trianing on unices... I mean what are we going to do when Microsoft releases it's BSD distrobution to combat apples? hahaha
You're very wrong. I mean Rich Text Format -- not these word docs with RTF extentions. FYI word supports RTF, but you have to select it in save as type or you get a word doc with RTF extention. RTF can't contain macros.
Clarisworks, MS Office, MS works, Abiword, Star Office, millions of others all use RTF.
You can't go wrong with RTF if you need nice formating, but can't use HTML. I've used Unix/Win/Mac systems for a while -- RTF is the only option -- and no worries about VBAs or platform dependence.
As someone that works with intelligent systems, that made my day. I'm still laughing. Just because your calculator is faster does mean it can do your homework for you in english lit.
Machines do very well with deep and narrow topics: eg expert systems do well at chemical modeling, credit checks, and etc. Chess is also a good example. However when it comes to shallow and broad topics like understanding a children's book -- then machines are very useless.
If I live to see a machine read and understand a children's book, then I will have seen a baby step on the way to an AI that mimics humans...
Machines can't understand many things because of how the experence the world. "You are a sweet person." Why is Sweet a compliament? How do you know this -- yes experence as a person.
Right now DARPA is working on trying to make untethered walkers (can't say names) and scalers ( gecko project ). Machines are hardly useful for much in the way of anything practile without being controled remotely by humans. Work is being done on getting simple mechcanics and understanding of how neural nets work. We only create working machines using techniques from connectionists w/o understanding how the machines learn or what they're actually learning. Sure we have NNs that can drive cars and do amazing human face/voice idenification -- but they don't understand what context or what task they're doing.
Please, it's more likey we'll see alien life before we make our own thinking machine before I die. I have wondered if we'll continue to take the path of medicine and do without knowing exactly how and why... AI is the human genome of computing... It's more likey we'll make an artifical soul ( not a just simple automous lifeforms ) using organic material than the current state logic machines. The reason is we don't understand the how and why...
Sorry for my spelling, but I won't hold your need to correct me agianst you.
2. "Dr. Treister-Goren says that Hal will probably attain adult-level language skills in 10 years."
Marv "Neural Net" Minski would be proud of such an unfounded claim. You can't prediect that far into the future for anything.
BASIC has this WHILE thingy...
We don't need no stinking built-in loop structures!
OpenGL is used for scientific modeling, film fx, and tons of other things. DX ( D3D ) is only good for one thing and that's *PC games. PC games are nothing, since they can't even compete with consoles. DX on Xbox is also a moot point.
The point then? The point is GL will always be what modelers and the R&D depts will use, because it's a stable and modular API.
As for GL games? If you have a game based on GL, it will support more card features months before DX. However you can't use a cookie cutter engine like lilthtech and the like. There sure are more DX games, but they're mostly swill to be honest.
Would you rather have a dozen lithtech based games or something based on UT, Q3A, or etc?
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Please remember when you post the PC gaming market has nothing to do with GL's "life and death".
I was also hinting at the problem with closed source DX games. If you run DX 8.0 you won't be able to play older DX games. If you bought every version of TombRaider ( dear god, why? ), and installed DX 8.0 you would be able to play only the last version.
I work on OGL clones of DX games as a hobby. Once I have my OGL based engine under the game, then I don't have to worry about newer API version breaking my binaries much less source.
I for one still play old DOS games and I enjoy having a 'long shelf life' in the titles I buy. I no longer buy DX based games even if I really want them now. If MarrowWind doesn't move off DX ( xbox/"pc" game ) I will never buy it. I waited years for MarrowWind too...
Hahaha, if you believe those trolls actually produce product then I want to sell you some 'warm' land in russia. APIs don't have market share or profits. That's the problems with kids raized on MS products. They ask "Who is the marker leader?" when they should ask "Who has the best solution?".
Please grow up, before you anger the real developers.
GL is modular and relies on extentions. This produces a far more stable API and allows for the latest bleeding edge tech.
Comparing DX or better D3D to GL is like comparing UNIX to Windows. You can either allow modular ententions or rewrite the API every release, whus breaking backwards compatibility for no reason. GL ext from ATI and Nvidia are much easier to use for development that D3D imho.
Only moogles may disagree. We still love you dan! =)
I wonder if they just read the numbers and said "wow, we could sell a lot of AMD chips. Too bad we don't sell them." Compaq on the other hand *has mobile athlon4s ( morgan which as palimino core ) for sell on laptops right now.
I've been using PC laptops for a while. I mostly repair and build from 'parts' systems to afford a new one every 6 weeks. I don't think Dell is an option for a linux lappy from my experenice. Compaqs are so easy to repair and *upgrade, so why bother with Dell anyway. Let's try to get Compaq to sell us Athlon4s with linux. Now if they just have geforce go or something more like radeon on the cheap ones. =)
Adobe can't have it's cake and eat it too. Everyone should try to pressure Adobe into paying for his defense. This way they can't just start 'dumping' on the DoJ.
iirc you have to still select all mails in a folder; ctrl+y ( apply filters ) to apply filters to stored mail.
Also the mailbox format is easy to remover - I corrupted my inbox several times now -- often all I have to do is remove the *.ibex for that folder and it's fixed...
I have been using as my primary mailer for months now.
MSPT is tricking the monkeys into coding it for them! Those cheeky monkeys indeed. "We can get them to code it them chnage the license. We fire all our programmers and just repeat! yay!"
The main points are:
* PS2 is multi processor MIPS ( vector processors )
* It's easy to embed
* It has a small form factor
* Xbox is a consumer uniprocessor PC
* Xbox is well... a huge box
Thank you, drive thru
Let's sue for use of spare cycles by screensavers that auto update over the net too. I work for an.edu in GA ( and I'm not speaking for them ) - and if installing mozilla (not on the sw list, because no one *bought it) is a high crime they'll have to lock up SAs up to middle management for life. Coutersuit for defamation?
Yeah, you have to buy a remote. Also Xbox is a consumer PC bascily with nForce audio and video. PS2 emotion engine is a MP MIPS machine ( Versions of MIPS run everything from toasters to clusters. They're also better suited for military applications for certian reasons... I'm sorry I can't say why the merikan SS is knocking on my door... )
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I'd like to inform everyone in these groups:
a) OpenGL is dead!
b) OpenGL is out of date
c) Let's ditch OpenGL and do DirectX
DirectX isn't the same thing as OpenGL, however you can compare D3D and OpenGL. DirectX is for sound, input, and rendering not just rendering, kids.
OpenGL will outlive D3D, since it's what big iron and the 'professionals' use for high end graphics. Also hardware vendors produce GL extentions way before D3D work has even started. GL can use extentions made *after it's release to support more features quickly and easily. ( If you're in one of these camps you never done 3d development, or think all computers are consumer PCs. )
Also if you use DirectX, you're limiting yourself needlessly. If you want the "latest and greatest" , then you're not going to use an API that has no modular extention system to support hw/ideas made after the API release. OpenGL can support hw/algorthims that happened *after it's release. OpenGL also runs on manchines a lot more powerful than your pentium 4 you bought at comp usa.
>but they have some excellent software and hardware,
> and i have no major anti-microsoft sentiments.
hey, that's means you work for microsoft don't you? =)
This is clearly an issue of impromper trianing on unices... I mean what are we going to do when Microsoft releases it's BSD distrobution to combat apples? hahaha
They use Quake3 frame rates to sell cards. Like it or not, most kiddies buy cards soley on quake3 demo playback scores.
If you ask me this isn't an isolated case of 'data fixing' -- it happens all the time. Research *all equipment purchases.
buyer beware.
Yeah, XEmacs with gtk widgets and all that -- also a little more up to date than the XEmacs-gtk.
You're very wrong. I mean Rich Text Format -- not these word docs with RTF extentions. FYI word supports RTF, but you have to select it in save as type or you get a word doc with RTF extention. RTF can't contain macros.
Please don't spread lies.
Clarisworks, MS Office, MS works, Abiword, Star Office, millions of others all use RTF.
You can't go wrong with RTF if you need nice formating, but can't use HTML. I've used Unix/Win/Mac systems for a while -- RTF is the only option -- and no worries about VBAs or platform dependence.
As someone that works with intelligent systems, that made my day. I'm still laughing. Just because your calculator is faster does mean it can do your homework for you in english lit.
Machines do very well with deep and narrow topics: eg expert systems do well at chemical modeling, credit checks, and etc. Chess is also a good example. However when it comes to shallow and broad topics like understanding a children's book -- then machines are very useless.
If I live to see a machine read and understand a children's book, then I will have seen a baby step on the way to an AI that mimics humans...
Machines can't understand many things because of how the experence the world. "You are a sweet person." Why is Sweet a compliament? How do you know this -- yes experence as a person.
Right now DARPA is working on trying to make untethered walkers (can't say names) and scalers ( gecko project ). Machines are hardly useful for much in the way of anything practile without being controled remotely by humans. Work is being done on getting simple mechcanics and understanding of how neural nets work. We only create working machines using techniques from connectionists w/o understanding how the machines learn or what they're actually learning. Sure we have NNs that can drive cars and do amazing human face/voice idenification -- but they don't understand what context or what task they're doing.
Please, it's more likey we'll see alien life before we make our own thinking machine before I die. I have wondered if we'll continue to take the path of medicine and do without knowing exactly how and why... AI is the human genome of computing... It's more likey we'll make an artifical soul ( not a just simple automous lifeforms ) using organic material than the current state logic machines. The reason is we don't understand the how and why...
Sorry for my spelling, but I won't hold your need to correct me agianst you.
1. "child language language experts"
PARSE ERROR!
2. "Dr. Treister-Goren says that Hal will probably attain adult-level language skills in 10 years."
Marv "Neural Net" Minski would be proud of such an unfounded claim. You can't prediect that far into the future for anything.
BASIC has this WHILE thingy...
We don't need no stinking built-in loop structures!
OpenGL is used for scientific modeling, film fx, and tons of other things. DX ( D3D ) is only good for one thing and that's *PC games. PC games are nothing, since they can't even compete with consoles. DX on Xbox is also a moot point.
The point then? The point is GL will always be what modelers and the R&D depts will use, because it's a stable and modular API.
As for GL games? If you have a game based on GL, it will support more card features months before DX. However you can't use a cookie cutter engine like lilthtech and the like. There sure are more DX games, but they're mostly swill to be honest.
Would you rather have a dozen lithtech based games or something based on UT, Q3A, or etc?
-------
Please remember when you post the PC gaming market has nothing to do with GL's "life and death".
May the mongoose save your soul!
I was also hinting at the problem with closed source DX games. If you run DX 8.0 you won't be able to play older DX games. If you bought every version of TombRaider ( dear god, why? ), and installed DX 8.0 you would be able to play only the last version.
I work on OGL clones of DX games as a hobby. Once I have my OGL based engine under the game, then I don't have to worry about newer API version breaking my binaries much less source.
I for one still play old DOS games and I enjoy having a 'long shelf life' in the titles I buy. I no longer buy DX based games even if I really want them now. If MarrowWind doesn't move off DX ( xbox/"pc" game ) I will never buy it. I waited years for MarrowWind too...
Hahaha, if you believe those trolls actually produce product then I want to sell you some 'warm' land in russia. APIs don't have market share or profits. That's the problems with kids raized on MS products. They ask "Who is the marker leader?" when they should ask "Who has the best solution?".
Please grow up, before you anger the real developers.
GL is modular and relies on extentions. This produces a far more stable API and allows for the latest bleeding edge tech.
Comparing DX or better D3D to GL is like comparing UNIX to Windows. You can either allow modular ententions or rewrite the API every release, whus breaking backwards compatibility for no reason. GL ext from ATI and Nvidia are much easier to use for development that D3D imho.
Only moogles may disagree. We still love you dan! =)
Sam, do you get the joke about calling you sasami on OPN irc yet?
o/~ pretty mutation - magical recall! o/~
Agian, good luck at your new job!
-- Mongoose
I wonder if they just read the numbers and said "wow, we could sell a lot of AMD chips. Too bad we don't sell them." Compaq on the other hand *has mobile athlon4s ( morgan which as palimino core ) for sell on laptops right now.
I've been using PC laptops for a while. I mostly repair and build from 'parts' systems to afford a new one every 6 weeks. I don't think Dell is an option for a linux lappy from my experenice. Compaqs are so easy to repair and *upgrade, so why bother with Dell anyway. Let's try to get Compaq to sell us Athlon4s with linux. Now if they just have geforce go or something more like radeon on the cheap ones. =)
Adobe can't have it's cake and eat it too. Everyone should try to pressure Adobe into paying for his defense. This way they can't just start 'dumping' on the DoJ.
I use evolution, and it allows attachments to be run ( with some tweaking ) as well as opened for viewing...
I doubt I'll ever have that problem, because javascript and etc has no real power on my machine.
If you use outlook that's your problem.
iirc you have to still select all mails in a folder; ctrl+y ( apply filters ) to apply filters to stored mail.
Also the mailbox format is easy to remover - I corrupted my inbox several times now -- often all I have to do is remove the *.ibex for that folder and it's fixed...
I have been using as my primary mailer for months now.
New Mexico!
=p
Aren't all the OSS project leads primma donnas? I don't see anything wrong with it, and I'm always right... =)
MSPT is tricking the monkeys into coding it for them! Those cheeky monkeys indeed. "We can get them to code it them chnage the license. We fire all our programmers and just repeat! yay!"
=)
The main points are:
* PS2 is multi processor MIPS ( vector processors )
* It's easy to embed
* It has a small form factor
* Xbox is a consumer uniprocessor PC
* Xbox is well... a huge box
Thank you, drive thru
Let's sue for use of spare cycles by screensavers that auto update over the net too. I work for an .edu in GA ( and I'm not speaking for them ) - and if installing mozilla (not on the sw list, because no one *bought it) is a high crime they'll have to lock up SAs up to middle management for life. Coutersuit for defamation?
Yeah, you have to buy a remote. Also Xbox is a consumer PC bascily with nForce audio and video. PS2 emotion engine is a MP MIPS machine ( Versions of MIPS run everything from toasters to clusters. They're also better suited for military applications for certian reasons... I'm sorry I can't say why the merikan SS is knocking on my door... )
we all love you in #loki oc
*paws at oc's face