I don't bother with robots.txt at all. I asume the user of my bot knows what is right or wrong -- If I was to sell a gun to a guy I wouldn't feel responisble with what (s)he did with it. You just worry about doing what you do, since you can't expect every j(ohn|ane) doe to be an upright citizen.
When it comes to data mining you don't want to limit yourself - that's why user agent spoofing is so widely used... I wonder how many tracking sites out there count spoofing bots on http as either mozilla or IE.
Of course I'm an evil basterd that makes a spider lib with an example simple minded mp3 spider...
I wan't clear... by "not been seen" I implied at level 1. =)
I sent a letter to the ask/. address right after posting this where I was more explict.;)
well, if you have users flooding your system you have the right. Ask some of the guys at telefragged.com about this problem. The bot epidemic bot had this problem, and we got a few ISPs to kick some users. If someone is just going to abuse, then put them away.
I got the entire series and the movies on VCD on eBay. I also got the infamous fan dubbed English version. If you want to watch the movies, but don't speak english - you may be out of luck. Ayanami Rei is... hehehe, I want to spoil the movies, but I won't.;)
He released the quake source for the same reason as the wolfenstien 3d and doom. It was for hobbiest to play with... making new games off the quake engine has a better future for avatar chat ( we used to do this with a quake mod, fyi ), new games like a daggerfall/arena clone, etc. than just one single dumpy old FPS.
The real quake community disbanded a long time ago, since we used to get together and met a lot - now it's just dead with all the new kids running around. Now it's just a game it seems.
Also Quakeforge is making a standard client/server and may be including 'blessed' binaries soon ala some older game that faced and defeated this issue before...
I've written at least one bot and/or mod for each Quake. I'm currently working on a bot that can play all three. I don't wish to GPL my AI code for the sake of interfacing with Q3A.
How do you avoid the GPL?
1. Write CS bots. ( Prepare to be witch hunted. )
OR better...
2. Write a GPLed 'hook' into the Quake game code. Then have the AI off in another program. Use networking to pass info - this is legal.
I've worked on QuakeForge for a short time, and I got flak for doing this - however this is legal. I may want to use this code for commerial or educational use.
( i.e. sell my AI or use for my senior project )
It's perfectly legal to have a GPL'ed program work as a client to a closed source server. I want to make that clear. If you don't want to GPL your source just yet, then try this.
FYI, the 'quake community' pisses me off - when the eraser bot stole one of my old teammate's code and didn't credit him... the quake *community supported pirated intellectual properity because I quote: "We like the bot, leave him alone."
Hey! Don't say that we run IIS... er, ok we suck on server software - but we rule in content.;)
( This is a joking view - I'm not representing PQ as a content provider with this statement. However off the record I hate the IIS servers and MS FTP, oh god make it stop! )
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Yeah, I played Li in SF II and Alpha... it's hard to beat someone that can do 2 air moves!
I don't play female characters or male characters with a preferance - I pick the best one for the job. In LMCTF I knew flag runners would mostly be female models, because they're smaller and harder to see. Also if you perfer a small/fast character - it's going to be the 'demon sucubus bitch' not the '8 foot tall vampire guy'. ( Dark stalkers rip offs )
When I see a *female in #debian I give them the benifit of the doubt, and don't say anything too lewd. Of course after they leave everyone votes on if they were male or female. =)
-- Send more icelandic chicks -- -- Kitty we miss you, sadistic cat! --
Aren't design patterns and modular design the real selling points of C++? You can easily write stand alone objects and make them into shared objects, and this gives you real power. I personally wrote classes in C++ for FTP, HTTP, NNTP, etc - then combined them inside an shared object with a shared interface ( Url ). Now anyone can 'plug-in' and have these features with a great OO interface to my module. Java can't do libs - that's always made it look like a toy langauge to me.
I'm considering buying a PSX2 ( play station 2 ) for a DVD player. However, Sony is one of the major 'evil freedom squishers'... how can you purcahse a DVD player without supporting the comanay?
No, tempest works by catching the CRT output - this product would only allow for locking you out of "unacceptable use". This a measure of content control. In short, they want to give you the shaft. =)
Well, if win9x and NT were OSSed then what about win00? Win00 is "mostly new code", so that means what? Windows is a dead end now anyway... X-box is what MS will really be pushing on coned-sumers, er, consumers. =)
I personally would like to have wine running win9x apps optimized to run on my SMP machine! =)
Well, I'm not a lawyaer. It seems this is like the part of a romantic comedy movie where the priest says "If any person sees why these two should not be wed let..."
They're looking for reasons not to enact this part of a bill as law. I can see lots of problems in it as a legal layman.
It affects you by putting a legal resriction on you as worded in this bill if it become law. It is important, sine it paves the way for companies to charge on a per content usage basis. This is basicly saying everything is going to be DIVX like, in the sense that you don't *own what you buy - you pay for a limited use of a product.
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If this becomes law the US will be shooting itself in the foot in my opinion. If you make a product only obtainable via the black market then the black market will drive the companies out of high profits slowly. I'm all for them going to hell in a hand basket.
That's how it is in china - they don't allow many movies in so they have large black market to sell product there is demand for... It got to the point where who cares about the orignal product, when the black market is providing a better service to the customer base's needs.
In other words I thinking trying to lock down content harder will encourage pricay and leanacy to it even more! This will happen slowly, as the profits slip so will the companies' power to buy legal attacks and busts.
If they want to ruin their bussiness, let them... if this is enacted I'm almost certian it will lead to weaker enforcement of these laws in less than a few years.
Does anyone remember the prohibition? By making alcohol illegal to sell it gave those that risked selling it on the black market more power.
Compile time is I/O bound. Buy a fast SCSI disk, lots of RAM, and a fast bus if you really want to speed it up. =)
A 1Ghz CPU running on a 100Mhz bus with an IDE drive. As for intel HAHAHAHA... sorry it's just that it's so outlandish to expect cpu power alone to improve performane. These intel/AMD press releases are funny. Also things like cache speed being like 3/5 or even 1/2 to 1/3 cpu speed make this even more lauaghable. I think a 4x - 8x ppro ( cache and cpus @ 200Mhz ) are the best x86 machines out for what most of the linux crowd.
I wanna 4x SMP K7 to still up here with my ppro ( socket 8 ) dual workstation.
OpenProjects #debian - in irc you can't run away from the taunting
My friends that runs the smae hardware setup I have, and my NT admin have been testing Win00 betas and run the current release with patches. Form all their input I can tell I don't want Win00, it can't even run legacy win32/win16 apps and games - which was the the only reason I ran winNT at home until wine started running more of the win32/DOS/win16 apps/games I use than NT. They told me what apps/games worked and I trust them enough to believe them - they *like windows and want me to run it, so I doubt they make up negative comments when I asked if win00 is a good option.
"Yea, but the loss from doing all that back/forth wouldn't allow you to get the rates that these guys were moving at..."
That's incorrect. You'd be attaching *from the remote machines, not from yours *via the machines. This is a common misconception about networking + shells/X. You can run code remotely on say machine A and have output on B, put simply...
I hope you see how this works in the large now, AC.
I remember NSA asking for more funds recently. Who knows they could've done it, lol. The point is someone had a motive, but until the motive is knowm we can't really know who it is... unless we trace and trace and read log after log.
Unfortunately, we may never know for sure... I want to know, so I hope they trace and read over the logs. However, there is still a chance the last link in the chain was a setup. =/
I highly doubt an intelligent person or persons would attack from a local area. Who is to say this attack didn't start from say China. However, who says it wasn't script kiddies that did it.
If I were in China and I wanted to hose some US sites...
1. Break into serveral US.edu hosts. 2. Route like hell from nation to nation. 3. Log into the slowest speed school. 4. Log into the next highest speed. 5. Reapeat until all shells are open. 6. DDoS
It would be very hard to trace someone going through 3+ nations with 5+ levels of subnet changes per nation. In fact I'd say you couldn't without breaking the laws yourself. ( Not all nations would give info, or care about X attack. )
Hey, I know. I have a 100Mbps lan in my house, but a 28.8Kbps dailup and that's not even local. I live too far out for IDSN, cable, etc.
I was hoping AOL, Earthlink ( I use MindSpring ), and the other ISPs would push out here sooner with all the cable vs ISPs goings on back last summer. (?)
..but I guess I'll have to settle for overnight apt-get's.
When you say linux, what do you mean? Is linux just the kernel, the GNU binaries as well, or the entire distrobution?
See it's hard to say what linux IS. Some distrobutions have more bugs than others, and some kernels have more bugs than others. Also add to the fact that linux is being developed and debugged 24/7 worldwide. Look at the developer map on www.debian.org and see what I mean.
I can assure you from working on many projects, some open source some closed source - that linux's development cycle can't be held to the same pattern as MS windows, HP UNIX, etc. Linux is a distributed and large development effort with massive talent and harsh peer review. I wrote a small piece of code that was bug free. ( Very small i.e. near useless code is the only code that can bug free. ) And I still got email about a possible buffer overflow that could happen when the library was used with 'application X'.
Don't try and see releases as linux as a finished product, instead view it as a work of art - always adapting, always changing, always improving...
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I don't bother with robots.txt at all. I asume the user of my bot knows what is right or wrong -- If I was to sell a gun to a guy I wouldn't feel responisble with what (s)he did with it. You just worry about doing what you do, since you can't expect every j(ohn|ane) doe to be an upright citizen.
When it comes to data mining you don't want to limit yourself - that's why user agent spoofing is so widely used... I wonder how many tracking sites out there count spoofing bots on http as either mozilla or IE.
Of course I'm an evil basterd that makes a spider lib with an example simple minded mp3 spider...
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Somebody help me get up support for DSL here in Ranburne, AL =)
You need to join a software project and read the linux-devel list. It's very hard to release such code without someone noticing...
I remember a thread on linux kernel about trojan patches - they'd be eliminated by the streamlining of the code before they'd make it to the release.
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I wan't clear... by "not been seen" I implied at level 1. =)
/. address right after posting this where I was more explict. ;)
I sent a letter to the ask
well, if you have users flooding your system you have the right. Ask some of the guys at telefragged.com about this problem. The bot epidemic bot had this problem, and we got a few ISPs to kick some users. If someone is just going to abuse, then put them away.
Are we off topic yet?
We need to filter out certian users like the account trolls - so why not make it so that you can filter posts by the user's krama rating?
/. crew to report abuse on the board to the ISPs. You can have the kids kicked off the net - that would be funny. =)
Then after 5 mark downs, they can't be seen.
Also we could get
I got the entire series and the movies on VCD on eBay. I also got the infamous fan dubbed English version. If you want to watch the movies, but don't speak english - you may be out of luck. Ayanami Rei is... hehehe, I want to spoil the movies, but I won't. ;)
He released the quake source for the same reason as the wolfenstien 3d and doom. It was for hobbiest to play with... making new games off the quake engine has a better future for avatar chat ( we used to do this with a quake mod, fyi ), new games like a daggerfall/arena clone, etc. than just one single dumpy old FPS.
The real quake community disbanded a long time ago, since we used to get together and met a lot - now it's just dead with all the new kids running around. Now it's just a game it seems.
Also Quakeforge is making a standard client/server and may be including 'blessed' binaries soon ala some older game that faced and defeated this issue before...
Eat debian it's good for foo! *bar
I've written at least one bot and/or mod for each Quake. I'm currently working on a bot that can play all three. I don't wish to GPL my AI code for the sake of interfacing with Q3A.
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How do you avoid the GPL?
1. Write CS bots. ( Prepare to be witch hunted. )
OR better...
2. Write a GPLed 'hook' into the Quake game code.
Then have the AI off in another program.
Use networking to pass info - this is legal.
I've worked on QuakeForge for a short time, and I got flak for doing this - however this is legal. I may want to use this code for commerial or educational use.
( i.e. sell my AI or use for my senior project )
It's perfectly legal to have a GPL'ed program work as a client to a closed source server. I want to make that clear. If you don't want to GPL your source just yet, then try this.
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FYI, the 'quake community' pisses me off - when the eraser bot stole one of my old teammate's code and didn't credit him... the quake *community supported pirated intellectual properity because I quote: "We like the bot, leave him alone."
I'm not bitter. =)
Hey! Don't say that we run IIS... er, ok we suck on server software - but we rule in content. ;)
( This is a joking view - I'm not representing PQ as a content provider with this statement. However off the record I hate the IIS servers and MS FTP, oh god make it stop! )
Yeah, I played Li in SF II and Alpha... it's hard to beat someone that can do 2 air moves!
I don't play female characters or male characters with a preferance - I pick the best one for the job. In LMCTF I knew flag runners would mostly be female models, because they're smaller and harder to see. Also if you perfer a small/fast character - it's going to be the 'demon sucubus bitch' not the '8 foot tall vampire guy'. ( Dark stalkers rip offs )
When I see a *female in #debian I give them the benifit of the doubt, and don't say anything too lewd. Of course after they leave everyone votes on if they were male or female. =)
-- Send more icelandic chicks --
-- Kitty we miss you, sadistic cat! --
Aren't design patterns and modular design the real selling points of C++? You can easily write stand alone objects and make them into shared objects, and this gives you real power. I personally wrote classes in C++ for FTP, HTTP, NNTP, etc - then combined them inside an shared object with a shared interface ( Url ). Now anyone can 'plug-in' and have these features with a great OO interface to my module. Java can't do libs - that's always made it look like a toy langauge to me.
Oh the humanity! Stop the insanity!
Didn't we learn from that charlton heston flick not to do this?
I'm considering buying a PSX2 ( play station 2 ) for a DVD player. However, Sony is one of the major 'evil freedom squishers'... how can you purcahse a DVD player without supporting the comanay?
Send in complaints with registraion card?
Buy on eBay, not retail.
What?
No, tempest works by catching the CRT output - this product would only allow for locking you out of "unacceptable use". This a measure of content control. In short, they want to give you the shaft. =)
Well, if win9x and NT were OSSed then what about win00? Win00 is "mostly new code", so that means what? Windows is a dead end now anyway... X-box is what MS will really be pushing on coned-sumers, er, consumers. =)
I personally would like to have wine running win9x apps optimized to run on my SMP machine! =)
Well, I'm not a lawyaer. It seems this is like the part of a romantic comedy movie where the priest says "If any person sees why these two should not be wed let ..."
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They're looking for reasons not to enact this part of a bill as law. I can see lots of problems in it as a legal layman.
It affects you by putting a legal resriction on you as worded in this bill if it become law. It is important, sine it paves the way for companies to charge on a per content usage basis. This is basicly saying everything is going to be DIVX like, in the sense that you don't *own what you buy - you pay for a limited use of a product.
Don't read below here if you dont' want to think.
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If this becomes law the US will be shooting itself in the foot in my opinion. If you make a product only obtainable via the black market then the black market will drive the companies out of high profits slowly. I'm all for them going to hell in a hand basket.
That's how it is in china - they don't allow many movies in so they have large black market to sell product there is demand for... It got to the point where who cares about the orignal product, when the black market is providing a better service to the customer base's needs.
In other words I thinking trying to lock down content harder will encourage pricay and leanacy to it even more! This will happen slowly, as the profits slip so will the companies' power to buy legal attacks and busts.
If they want to ruin their bussiness, let them... if this is enacted I'm almost certian it will lead to weaker enforcement of these laws in less than a few years.
Does anyone remember the prohibition?
By making alcohol illegal to sell it gave those that risked selling it on the black market more power.
Excuse me? Who would run a mission critical server on an x86? I see AMD and intel both on the low end server/end consumer market.
I still wonder about PSX2 and other appliances vs PCs - will programmers like us be the only ones with PCs soon?
Compile time is I/O bound. Buy a fast SCSI disk, lots of RAM, and a fast bus if you really want to speed it up. =)
A 1Ghz CPU running on a 100Mhz bus with an IDE drive. As for intel HAHAHAHA... sorry it's just that it's so outlandish to expect cpu power alone to improve performane. These intel/AMD press releases are funny. Also things like cache speed being like 3/5 or even 1/2 to 1/3 cpu speed make this even more lauaghable. I think a 4x - 8x ppro ( cache and cpus @ 200Mhz ) are the best x86 machines out for what most of the linux crowd.
I wanna 4x SMP K7 to still up here with my ppro ( socket 8 ) dual workstation.
OpenProjects #debian - in irc you can't run away from the taunting
My friends that runs the smae hardware setup I have, and my NT admin have been testing Win00 betas and run the current release with patches. Form all their input I can tell I don't want Win00, it can't even run legacy win32/win16 apps and games - which was the the only reason I ran winNT at home until wine started running more of the win32/DOS/win16 apps/games I use than NT. They told me what apps/games worked and I trust them enough to believe them - they *like windows and want me to run it, so I doubt they make up negative comments when I asked if win00 is a good option.
"Yea, but the loss from doing all that back/forth wouldn't allow you to get the rates that these guys were moving at..."
That's incorrect. You'd be attaching *from the remote machines, not from yours *via the machines. This is a common misconception about networking + shells/X. You can run code remotely on say machine A and have output on B, put simply...
I hope you see how this works in the large now, AC.
I remember NSA asking for more funds recently. Who knows they could've done it, lol. The point is someone had a motive, but until the motive is knowm we can't really know who it is... unless we trace and trace and read log after log.
Unfortunately, we may never know for sure... I want to know, so I hope they trace and read over the logs. However, there is still a chance the last link in the chain was a setup. =/
I highly doubt an intelligent person or persons would attack from a local area. Who is to say this attack didn't start from say China. However, who says it wasn't script kiddies that did it.
.edu hosts.
If I were in China and I wanted to hose some US sites...
1. Break into serveral US
2. Route like hell from nation to nation.
3. Log into the slowest speed school.
4. Log into the next highest speed.
5. Reapeat until all shells are open.
6. DDoS
It would be very hard to trace someone going through 3+ nations with 5+ levels of subnet changes per nation. In fact I'd say you couldn't without breaking the laws yourself. ( Not all nations would give info, or care about X attack. )
Just my US coin dollar...
Hey, I know. I have a 100Mbps lan in my house, but a 28.8Kbps dailup and that's not even local. I live too far out for IDSN, cable, etc.
I was hoping AOL, Earthlink ( I use MindSpring ), and the other ISPs would push out here sooner with all the cable vs ISPs goings on back last summer. (?)
..but I guess I'll have to settle for overnight apt-get's.
I'll try and answer this is with "plain talk".
When you say linux, what do you mean? Is linux just the kernel, the GNU binaries as well, or the entire distrobution?
See it's hard to say what linux IS. Some distrobutions have more bugs than others, and some kernels have more bugs than others. Also add to the fact that linux is being developed and debugged 24/7 worldwide. Look at the developer map on www.debian.org and see what I mean.
I can assure you from working on many projects, some open source some closed source - that linux's development cycle can't be held to the same pattern as MS windows, HP UNIX, etc. Linux is a distributed and large development effort with massive talent and harsh peer review. I wrote a small piece of code that was bug free. ( Very small i.e. near useless code is the only code that can bug free. ) And I still got email about a possible buffer overflow that could happen when the library was used with 'application X'.
Don't try and see releases as linux as a finished product, instead view it as a work of art - always adapting, always changing, always improving...
Hopefully microsoft will ship a service pack CD to at least fix the insecure index servers. Anyone recall the exsploits in gold that got pressed? =)
Let's hope a script kiddie won't be able to use these exsploits, because now with a well known about DDoS you'll see copycats.
If microsoft didn't ship service packs and I was say yahoo, and I got DoSed because of know holes unplugged - I would have to file charges...
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The ____ part of the ____ is the ___.