And more importantly you don't have batteries to worry about. Imagine having to be careful in the shower cause you know you only have 15 minutes until the internal battery fails.:-\
I agree with that. The we are programmed to think that the horizon is a lot further away than things above us. That does not mean that I agree with the frame of reference argument in the original post (trees, houses etc).
They are two different things and rightly commented as two different explanations in the article.
Shows you how out of touch with reality the EU is.
Hey, they got paid to sit around looking busy didn't they? Just like when they got paid to sit around and write that monstrosity of a "constitution" that went nowhere.
"Near the ground, I consider it in proportion to the objects around it. In the sky, I have no reference"
I've heard that explnation so often so could you please explain why does the sun and moon look bigger on the horizon when you're looking out at sea (no reference) then?
Last time I was in the US, I could always get free internet access from any one of a list of "linksys" wifi networks. Awesome! Thanks for the free internet access linksys!
Hmm... this is so wrong, I'm not sure where to begin. You need a history lesson.
You can begin by telling me when there was ever a palestinian nation.
Israel's handling of the Palestinians has been embarrassing. They can't even build a fence without trying to cheat the Palestinians out of more land and drawing more ire. The concept of "defense" is completely foreign to their "defense" force. IDF can't take incoming pebbles without returning fire on civilians, can't manage to keep explosive-laced terrorists from penetrating their "border", and can't restrain themselves from invading Palestinian homes for the sole purpose of seeing what's on the tele
You are so full of it. The IDF are one of the best anti-terrorist forces in the world. Nothing I say will convince you of that but you're just fucking ignorant. It's not easy to defend against terrorists when you're trying to guarantee everyone's liberties.
Yes, exactly. They bulldoze homes of Palastinian people, and build settlements on their land
Homes used by terrorists or to smuggle weapons (hidden tunnels).
It makes no more sense for you to defend the US' relationship with Israel, than it does for Syria or Lebanon to aid the Palestinians.
No, it does and I've already explained why.
Without US weapons defending Israel (deterrence works great), Israel would now be North Egypt, West Jordon and Southern Lebanon. The concept of a Palestinian state would be a footnote in history. Because of Israel and this whole conflict, Palestinians for the first time in history will get their own country.
Less so, because it's really none of the US' business until one side or the other decides to play fair at least.
How can you reason that it will suddenly become the US's business when one side decides to "play fair"? I've never heard of anything more ridiculous. And by your own standards, isn't it possible that the US has decided that Israel is playing it "fairer"?
The fact is, they should not have those weapons at all. I find the idea of giving someone weapons and calling it humanitarian aid offensive
What? Israel has been attacked by its neighbours who have sworn to "push israel into the sea" and the US shouldn't help Israel defend itself? it is in the best interests of the US and the world that Israel -- a stable multicultural democracy in the middle east -- survives.
Suicide bombers are attempting to show how hopeless they feel about their situation in the very loudest way possible
No, they do it cause they believe they are stupid and think they will get rewarded (sex etc) in heaven. They are idiots and it's no suprise that they generally are very young.
The best thing the world can do at this point is look on with sorrow I'm afraid
You know, there is *much* worse happening in the world. The Israeli/Middle-east conflict is so popular because it's the only place of conflict where the reporters can sit down and have sushi whilst they wirte about how horrible Israel is.
They should consider themselves lucky that the US gives them billions of dollars of weapons to fight enemies that are equiped with rocks and primitive explosives.
WTF? Do you think they use all of those weapons on the Palestinians? The best thing that can happen for Israel is for he world to acknowledge that it *IS* a war. The fact is, if they used those weapons in an all out war, the Palestinians wouldn't have a fucking change.
And to describe palestinian as poor enemies with only rocks and primitive explosives is nothing short of fuckign ignorant. A suicide bomber who can disguise himself, walk into a nightclub and blow himself up is far more dangerous than the restricted actions of the IDF. Especially since it creates a situtation where liberties (including those of Palestinians) have to be exchanged for security.
Enemies that they imposed upon, and enemies that they threaten and steal from when they attempt to expand their borders.
I invite you to read some history and get damn a clue.
A country like Israel, despite being attacked repeatedly by its neighbours, being built up of people who have had their lands stolen off them (in both Europe and Arabia) has managed to develop into the only multi-cultural, multi-ethnic democracy in the middle east. Israel is responsible for inventions ranging from the MRI to ICQ to the Pentium-M.
When was the last time you saw a Jew blowing himself up in Saudi Arabia or Germany demanding their land back? Nope, they just get on with their fucking lives and contribute to humanity instead of becoming career refugees like a certain group of people.
And more importantly you don't have batteries to worry about. Imagine having to be careful in the shower cause you know you only have 15 minutes until the internal battery fails. :-\
Do a google search for al gore and digital brownshirt and you might get what I meant.
Al Gore...is that you?
I agree with that. The we are programmed to think that the horizon is a lot further away than things above us. That does not mean that I agree with the frame of reference argument in the original post (trees, houses etc).
They are two different things and rightly commented as two different explanations in the article.
What the hell kind of OS crashes because of applications? I'm pretty sure OSX has memory and resource protection...
Also, if you're looking towards the sea, you STILL have a frame of reference - the horizon
Are you retarded? How does the horizon act as a frame of reference for *size*?
Well how does the horizon act as a frame of reference for *size*?
Shows you how out of touch with reality the EU is.
Hey, they got paid to sit around looking busy didn't they? Just like when they got paid to sit around and write that monstrosity of a "constitution" that went nowhere.
Have you tried this yourself because I have many times and I call bullshit. It doesn't work.
The frame of reference theory is wrong. the sun and moon still look larger if you have no frame of reference (from a plane or towards the sea).
Didn't he say that the size of the moon at the horizon is the actual real size and it's when it's in trhe sky that it's illusionary?
"Near the ground, I consider it in proportion to the objects around it. In the sky, I have no reference"
I've heard that explnation so often so could you please explain why does the sun and moon look bigger on the horizon when you're looking out at sea (no reference) then?
I agree. Stoner hippies who live at home and don't work should be paid the same as an electrical engineer. Sounds fairer no?
Last time I was in the US, I could always get free internet access from any one of a list of "linksys" wifi networks. Awesome! Thanks for the free internet access linksys!
You are a fucking moron. How can anyone be so inane?
Clearly your religion is stupidity.
Hmm... this is so wrong, I'm not sure where to begin. You need a history lesson.
You can begin by telling me when there was ever a palestinian nation.
Israel's handling of the Palestinians has been embarrassing. They can't even build a fence without trying to cheat the Palestinians out of more land and drawing more ire. The concept of "defense" is completely foreign to their "defense" force. IDF can't take incoming pebbles without returning fire on civilians, can't manage to keep explosive-laced terrorists from penetrating their "border", and can't restrain themselves from invading Palestinian homes for the sole purpose of seeing what's on the tele
You are so full of it. The IDF are one of the best anti-terrorist forces in the world. Nothing I say will convince you of that but you're just fucking ignorant. It's not easy to defend against terrorists when you're trying to guarantee everyone's liberties.
Explain these then.
Yes, exactly. They bulldoze homes of Palastinian people, and build settlements on their land
Homes used by terrorists or to smuggle weapons (hidden tunnels).
It makes no more sense for you to defend the US' relationship with Israel, than it does for Syria or Lebanon to aid the Palestinians.
No, it does and I've already explained why.
Without US weapons defending Israel (deterrence works great), Israel would now be North Egypt, West Jordon and Southern Lebanon. The concept of a Palestinian state would be a footnote in history. Because of Israel and this whole conflict, Palestinians for the first time in history will get their own country.
Less so, because it's really none of the US' business until one side or the other decides to play fair at least.
How can you reason that it will suddenly become the US's business when one side decides to "play fair"? I've never heard of anything more ridiculous. And by your own standards, isn't it possible that the US has decided that Israel is playing it "fairer"?
The fact is, they should not have those weapons at all. I find the idea of giving someone weapons and calling it humanitarian aid offensive
What? Israel has been attacked by its neighbours who have sworn to "push israel into the sea" and the US shouldn't help Israel defend itself? it is in the best interests of the US and the world that Israel -- a stable multicultural democracy in the middle east -- survives.
Suicide bombers are attempting to show how hopeless they feel about their situation in the very loudest way possible
No, they do it cause they believe they are stupid and think they will get rewarded (sex etc) in heaven. They are idiots and it's no suprise that they generally are very young.
The best thing the world can do at this point is look on with sorrow I'm afraid
You know, there is *much* worse happening in the world. The Israeli/Middle-east conflict is so popular because it's the only place of conflict where the reporters can sit down and have sushi whilst they wirte about how horrible Israel is.
Oh, like no Governments except for the Israeli government spys on other nations.
Get some fucking perspective.
They should consider themselves lucky that the US gives them billions of dollars of weapons to fight enemies that are equiped with rocks and primitive explosives.
WTF? Do you think they use all of those weapons on the Palestinians? The best thing that can happen for Israel is for he world to acknowledge that it *IS* a war. The fact is, if they used those weapons in an all out war, the Palestinians wouldn't have a fucking change.
And to describe palestinian as poor enemies with only rocks and primitive explosives is nothing short of fuckign ignorant. A suicide bomber who can disguise himself, walk into a nightclub and blow himself up is far more dangerous than the restricted actions of the IDF. Especially since it creates a situtation where liberties (including those of Palestinians) have to be exchanged for security.
Enemies that they imposed upon, and enemies that they threaten and steal from when they attempt to expand their borders.
I invite you to read some history and get damn a clue.
A country like Israel, despite being attacked repeatedly by its neighbours, being built up of people who have had their lands stolen off them (in both Europe and Arabia) has managed to develop into the only multi-cultural, multi-ethnic democracy in the middle east. Israel is responsible for inventions ranging from the MRI to ICQ to the Pentium-M.
When was the last time you saw a Jew blowing himself up in Saudi Arabia or Germany demanding their land back? Nope, they just get on with their fucking lives and contribute to humanity instead of becoming career refugees like a certain group of people.
just look at Israel and what they do
What exactly? Protect their citizens (15% of which is Arab by the way)?
No, governments should do nothing while palestinians blow up kids in nightclubs and school buses.
And how are you supposed to handwrite if you don't use an electromagnetic (wacom) digitizer?
Your hand would make the cursor go all over the place.
and more with any company that publically masterbates in front of a croud
But clearly you have no problems with a thousand geeks masturbating in front of you everyday or you wouldn't be here.
This thread is getting lame.
OMFG Bush Sux0rs!!!!!!!!
You are *so* brave to say that on slashdot.
OMG, so am I. *WANK* *WANK*
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