There were other Basics, BBC Basic and Sinclair BASIC are two that come to mind. Is Microsoft the same company that remade BOOLEAN as a TRISTATE value, eg TristateUseDefault, TristateTrue, TristateFalse...
"A couple of years of not archiving emails due to configuration errors"
Like, where are all the tapes of the nightly, weekly and monthly SYSTEM BACKUPS. They do keep backups of the IT system of the Government of the worlds greatest democracy.
Like, I worked for a ten man architect outfit and even they managed to figure out that they needed backups. We didn't have to hire in a special contractor, we bought a HP Surestore tape unit..:)
"they changed it to a manual process, where aides would manually sort emails one by one into individual PST files"
This is total nonsense, a generic backup application copies the files to tape. The only skill involved being the ability to swap the Monday tape for the Tuesday tape. The backup system copies all file types regardless of whether they are PST or not.
"In my opinion, one of the most worrying trends in the computer security world was Bruce Schneier's turn from crypto guru to security consultant"
You're entitled to your opinion, in the great scheme of things, a worse trend was when billg decided to embed Internet Explorer in the OS so as to kill Netscape.
Why not a closed.source.innovating.through.innovation.ideological.terrorist. Did someone pay him to say this, is this a new paradigm we are being primed with, to equate 'open source' with terrorism, similarly to how some time back, every other movie terrorist was a card carrying towel.head..:)
If the movie turms out like real life then later on it'll turn out that Tony Stark is secretly funding Osama bin Stane so as he can offer protection to the citizens and the benefits of purchasing product that is fully protected by intellectual property laws..:)
"New software was pushed out 6 months ago to replace the infringing software"
Like where does it say that, do you have any citations. If as you say new software was pushed out then why did they lose the ruling and why are they appealing.
"Dish is now saying that they actually will appeal this verdict all the way to the Supreme Court"
"Where you have entire IT departments.. doing 90% of their work.. on Microsoft products"
Don't you meant when they buy a 'computer' and then spend the same again on software licenses to get it to do anything..:)
I'm was contracted in a multi-national Employment Agency, it's XP on the desktop, Internet Explorer/msOffice/Exchange and Citrix into a SQL database. That and a stack of shared folders into the main office. You also have to drill down ten folders to find anything. Browsing is slow as molasses as they have Websense/AntiVirus installed to protect us from the Internet. To be quite honest, if we changed over, no-one would even notice.
"ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE Powerpoint"
Where's that quote from, you're kidding, who said that..:)
"I've run into a several Google security people at conferences like Blackhat and RSA. They've always struck me as rather arrogant, self absorbed, and poorly informed"
Who did you represent at these conferences, what were the names of these 'Google security people'. It's not that I don't doubt your word or anything.
"now even more computers are controlling these things, like windows desktops, but they are interfacing with the old control system usually"
The problem isn't with the 'old control system' but with the 'computers', the one that was/is designed with Internet security in mind, that is precicly where the problem lies, as the main article so succinctly demonstrates. Where they had full effective control of the system within minutes.
"Maintaining an air gap and keeping the computers off the internet is a nice thought, but its just not going to stay isolated"
The main reason they *still* use the Interent to relay SCADA traffic is, that it is cheap. It is possible to connect to the Internet and have security, an embedded OS running on a private VPN is once way. That way you wouldn't have to worry when some 'virus' comes knocking on some port.
It's mind boggling that they *still* have Windows/SCADA units directly connected to the Internet. Considering the scare in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and the blackout I previously mentioned. Has time stood still in the last eight years?
"What if the attackers were able to compromise systems monitoring the water supply for Manhattan?"
It is obvious that IPTV does not scale and is bandwidth hungry. eg For 1000 people watching the same program the server has to er.. serve up 1000 IP streams. Some kind of peer to peer solution at the ISPs is what's needed. That way they only need to download one stream from the IPTV company and then redistribute it on the local network. ISPs usually have masses of bandwidth to spare on their one internal network. A hack of Multicasting and VPN would do it..
"So the question is who pays? Should the content owners, who make the profits pay for the extra infrastructure or should the consumer pay?"
Given the low price they are charging for 'unlimited broadband' it's obvious it isn't either broadband or unlimited. Maybe they should stop the false advertising. It is also obvious that the ISPs don't have to infrastructure in place to support such services as iPlayer. To do so would cost them money. If the BBC and other IPTV companies want them to carry the traffic then they should at least carry part of the cost. Another solution would be to charge a real price for 'unlimited broadband', which would be ten time the current cost.
'O2 Broadband, £7.50 per month , up to 8Mb download speed, unlimited usage, 1.3Mb upload speed'
That should of course be 8Mb shared between you and the other 49 customers connected to the same switch and only late at night or at weekends as they choke off home bandwidth during business hours. Also you'll only get high speed for the first week, after which they'll wind it back down again..:)
'They sent the workers an e-mail about a plan to cut their benefits and included a link to a Web site where they could find out more'
'When employees clicked on the link, they were directed to a Web server set up by Winkler and his team. The employees' machines displayed an error message, but the server downloaded malware that enabled the team to take command of the machines.
"these computer systems were not designed with the internet in mind. SCADA systems that control physical systems over a wide geographic area were built before the internet even existed"
I assume you mean by 'these computers' Microsoft Windows, and Windows was most certanly designed for the Internet and security at the very least from Windows NT. Connecting these 'computers' through the Internt was an economic measure, designed to save on maintaining a private network. What's mind boggling is that they are still connecting such 'computers' to the Internet in 2008. Have these 'computer' professionals learned nothing since the Blackout of 2003. See also SQL virus takes down Nuclear Power Plant SPDS system.
>> it's you walking down the street carrying one that scares me..:)
> Why? I'm rational.
I don't want to carry an AK47 on the way to the supermarket and you do, now just who is being rational. Your (non-sic) mental landscape must be a very scary place..:)
>> your [sic] still driven by the same basic instincts
> And you aren't?
Never said that, but I do know that I don't want *my* particular tribe getting access to assault rifles, you don't know them like I do..:)
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"QBasic was a long way there already"
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.NET is not basic
There were other Basics, BBC Basic and Sinclair BASIC are two that come to mind. Is Microsoft the same company that remade BOOLEAN as a TRISTATE value, eg TristateUseDefault, TristateTrue, TristateFalse
was: Re:VB
Whitehouse Emails Were Lost Due to "Upgrade"
Suspicious DOJ edits of Wikipedia
"He was very into Linux as well as PHP/MySQL coding"
.. lets rewrite the headline to 'PHP/MySQL drove my younger brother to suicide' ..
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Oh, well
Hey, kdawson, this place used to be about technology
"A couple of years of not archiving emails due to configuration errors"
.. :)
.. :)
Like, where are all the tapes of the nightly, weekly and monthly SYSTEM BACKUPS. They do keep backups of the IT system of the Government of the worlds greatest democracy.
Like, I worked for a ten man architect outfit and even they managed to figure out that they needed backups. We didn't have to hire in a special contractor, we bought a HP Surestore tape unit
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was: Re:Interesting take on what REALLY happened
"they changed it to a manual process, where aides would manually sort emails one by one into individual PST files"
This is total nonsense, a generic backup application copies the files to tape. The only skill involved being the ability to swap the Monday tape for the Tuesday tape. The backup system copies all file types regardless of whether they are PST or not.
"In my opinion, one of the most worrying trends in the computer security world was Bruce Schneier's turn from crypto guru to security consultant"
You're entitled to your opinion, in the great scheme of things, a worse trend was when billg decided to embed Internet Explorer in the OS so as to kill Netscape.
have you no shame .. what next a musical set in the concentraton camps .. :)
Why not a closed.source.innovating.through.innovation.ideological.terrorist. Did someone pay him to say this, is this a new paradigm we are being primed with, to equate 'open source' with terrorism, similarly to how some time back, every other movie terrorist was a card carrying towel.head .. :)
.. :)
If the movie turms out like real life then later on it'll turn out that Tony Stark is secretly funding Osama bin Stane so as he can offer protection to the citizens and the benefits of purchasing product that is fully protected by intellectual property laws
"and the lesson to be learned from this: don't trust an Irishman to do anything right"
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It was designed by an Englishman and built by a British company in what was still part of the British Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Star_Line
"Weak Rivets May Have Sped Sinking of Titanic"
I always thought it was hitting an ICEBERG that sunk the Titanic..
"New software was pushed out 6 months ago to replace the infringing software"
Like where does it say that, do you have any citations. If as you say new software was pushed out then why did they lose the ruling and why are they appealing.
"Dish is now saying that they actually will appeal this verdict all the way to the Supreme Court"
"Where you have entire IT departments .. doing 90% of their work .. on Microsoft products"
.. :)
.. :)
Don't you meant when they buy a 'computer' and then spend the same again on software licenses to get it to do anything
I'm was contracted in a multi-national Employment Agency, it's XP on the desktop, Internet Explorer/msOffice/Exchange and Citrix into a SQL database. That and a stack of shared folders into the main office. You also have to drill down ten folders to find anything. Browsing is slow as molasses as they have Websense/AntiVirus installed to protect us from the Internet. To be quite honest, if we changed over, no-one would even notice.
"ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE Powerpoint"
Where's that quote from, you're kidding, who said that
"I've run into a several Google security people at conferences like Blackhat and RSA. They've always struck me as rather arrogant, self absorbed, and poorly informed"
.. :)
Who did you represent at these conferences, what were the names of these 'Google security people'. It's not that I don't doubt your word or anything.
Who invented 'heap overflow '
"now even more computers are controlling these things, like windows desktops, but they are interfacing with the old control system usually"
The problem isn't with the 'old control system' but with the 'computers', the one that was/is designed with Internet security in mind, that is precicly where the problem lies, as the main article so succinctly demonstrates. Where they had full effective control of the system within minutes.
"Maintaining an air gap and keeping the computers off the internet is a nice thought, but its just not going to stay isolated"
The main reason they *still* use the Interent to relay SCADA traffic is, that it is cheap. It is possible to connect to the Internet and have security, an embedded OS running on a private VPN is once way. That way you wouldn't have to worry when some 'virus' comes knocking on some port.
It's mind boggling that they *still* have Windows/SCADA units directly connected to the Internet. Considering the scare in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and the blackout I previously mentioned. Has time stood still in the last eight years?
"What if the attackers were able to compromise systems monitoring the water supply for Manhattan?"
It is obvious that IPTV does not scale and is bandwidth hungry. eg For 1000 people watching the same program the server has to er .. serve up 1000 IP streams. Some kind of peer to peer solution at the ISPs is what's needed. That way they only need to download one stream from the IPTV company and then redistribute it on the local network. ISPs usually have masses of bandwidth to spare on their one internal network. A hack of Multicasting and VPN would do it ..
"So the question is who pays? Should the content owners, who make the profits pay for the extra infrastructure or should the consumer pay?"
.. :)
Given the low price they are charging for 'unlimited broadband' it's obvious it isn't either broadband or unlimited. Maybe they should stop the false advertising. It is also obvious that the ISPs don't have to infrastructure in place to support such services as iPlayer. To do so would cost them money. If the BBC and other IPTV companies want them to carry the traffic then they should at least carry part of the cost. Another solution would be to charge a real price for 'unlimited broadband', which would be ten time the current cost.
'O2 Broadband, £7.50 per month , up to 8Mb download speed, unlimited usage, 1.3Mb upload speed'
That should of course be 8Mb shared between you and the other 49 customers connected to the same switch and only late at night or at weekends as they choke off home bandwidth during business hours. Also you'll only get high speed for the first week, after which they'll wind it back down again
'They sent the workers an e-mail about a plan to cut their benefits and included a link to a Web site where they could find out more'
..
'When employees clicked on the link, they were directed to a Web server set up by Winkler and his team. The employees' machines displayed an error message, but the server downloaded malware that enabled the team to take command of the machines.
"Then we had full system control," Winkler says.
"It was effective within minutes."'
Any guess as to which Operating System this malware runs on
"these computer systems were not designed with the internet in mind. SCADA systems that control physical systems over a wide geographic area were built before the internet even existed"
I assume you mean by 'these computers' Microsoft Windows, and Windows was most certanly designed for the Internet and security at the very least from Windows NT. Connecting these 'computers' through the Internt was an economic measure, designed to save on maintaining a private network. What's mind boggling is that they are still connecting such 'computers' to the Internet in 2008. Have these 'computer' professionals learned nothing since the Blackout of 2003. See also SQL virus takes down Nuclear Power Plant SPDS system.
>> it's you walking down the street carrying one that scares me .. :)
.. :)
.. :)
> Why? I'm rational.
I don't want to carry an AK47 on the way to the supermarket and you do, now just who is being rational. Your (non-sic) mental landscape must be a very scary place
>> your [sic] still driven by the same basic instincts
> And you aren't?
Never said that, but I do know that I don't want *my* particular tribe getting access to assault rifles, you don't know them like I do
"Your attempt to somehow associate my desire to legally own the guns I use with anti-black racism says a lot about how poorly informed you are"
.. :)
It's not your 'desire to legally own the guns' that scares me, it's you walking down the street carrying one that scares me
You see, your still driven by the same basic instincts that allowed humanity to be a successful hunter/gatherer on the African planes millennia ago.
"Beware the beast man, for he is the devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, or lust or greed"
http://www.scifiscripts.com/scripts/planetofapes67.txt
"That's some pretty breathtakingly BS crap, there. Wow"
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OK, how's this for BS, Heston joined the NRA because it protects us from the government and the KKK isn't a racist organization
"it's really other people they fear"
.. er, people with guns that they fear .. :)
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.. er African Americans getting hold of guns .. :)
Oh contraire, it's really other apes
His flirtation with the NRA was more to do with him missing all the attention he got as a Hollywood star
The NRA was formed soon after KKK was banned, presumably as a response to whiteys fear of some nig
What 'insecure' OS would that be. A real solution would be to use one of thiose bootable CDs.
http://www.ubuntu.com/
"They're not going to talk to a lot of people and brag about any terrorist activity they may be involved in." Well DOH !!!!
Panda Labs talks up the malware scare to sell PRODUC~1 ..
"The report also covers a number of other topics and makes predictions about the types of attacks computer users may see in the future"
Like, what kind of 'computers' does the vast majority of this malware run on.