"This insinuation that MS is causing a 'coming divide' in the Linux community
"is he saying he wants FOSS to become, instead of a competitor, more like a kind of cheap subsidiary that innovates principally for Microsoft's benefit? Microsoft gets innovation and code and makes money from it. Maybe some patents you didn't notice, too. Linux vendors on the bridge make some money. You get nothing"
"Linspire has now signed a patent deal with Microsoft, which I'm sure does not surprise you. They've been foreshadowing it for some time. Linspire says that Microsoft will now help them deliver a "better Linux". As you know, that has long been Microsoft's dream"
"BayStar Capital has invested in SCO to the tune of $50 million. They call it a private investment transaction"
They should get in a camera system that recognises number plates, get people to subscribe to store cards and ATM cards, give all government agencies access to your e-mail and browsing habits, that way they could track the people and still pretend they live in a democracy..
"We can't take big risks with our technology," said
Paul Campbell, former Director of the Illinois
Department of Central Management Services, "State
government needs trusted, tested technology that's
reliable and predictable,"
I do not respect a company that gets it's paid shills in the media to refer to Open Source people as zealots and 'lintards'.
"This is a matter of leadership - for us to recognise that the world some times does see open source or open source licences as risky"
Only when the world is being fed lies by the self same SCO/Baystar/MS..
"He also pointed out that many firms shy away from participating on open source mailing lists because discussions there tend to explode into flame wars"
Given that most online forums are infested with paid for or otherwise astroturfers and shills it's not surprising that things decend into flame wars. Anyone who puts forward an opinion that MS product is less then steller is duely targeted with abuse. The response being then used to paint the 'Lintards' in a bad light.
For an example take Rob 'SCO' Enderle..
'many Linux supporters are a bunch of potty-mouthed malcontents. Enterprises are better off staying away from Linux and open source'
'I have a hard time seeing the Zealots as any different from terrorist.. I strongly believe that if September 11 showed us anything, it was that zealots'
"That's a Microsoft product, right? Just checking, that's all"
Not exactly but you do have to ask billg's permission before working on YOUR own code and can't make any money out of it and YOU don't own it. Apart from that YOU are free to do what you want.
To the arse that modded the previous message 'flamebait', why not sod off and go back to patroling the openSUSE forum.
"You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your organization provided that: 1) You receive no consideration; and, 2) you do not bundle or combine the Software with another offering""
"You may not: (1) reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the Software"
"The Software may contain an automatic disabling mechanism that prevents its use after a certain period of time"
"No title to or ownership of the Software is transferred to You.. You acquire only a license to use the Software"
"This Beta Agreement shall terminate upon the earlier of.. written notice of termination by either party, or (v) the date on which You breach any of the terms of this Beta Agreement"
"You may not.. publish or disclose.. the results of any benchmark test of the Software"
What's the whole point of openSUSE again. If the GPL is such an onerous license then why don't Novell strip all GPL licensed code from SUSE Linux, after all, what's only valuable is the kernel, right 'elsewhere'...
What Bruce Wayne does for relaxation has no bearing on the Fake Lyons blog, unless he's given to wearing a pair of Steve Jobes spotted undies while thus engaged. Please don't tell us about your other hobby.
"Windows XP was released with no effective firewall software, leaving users exposed in an online world. The situation was eventually remedied with the inclusion of Windows Firewall in XP Service Pack 2. This application in an of itself wasn't considered the best client firewall out there, but it did (and does) effectively stop incoming traffic"
A software filewall is next to useless as it can be disabled by the malware. You need a standalone embedded solution like what comes on the average ADSL router. Blocking outgoing traffic is also considered de rigueur as it prevents the malware from contacting its host, when the machine invariably gets infected with the next virus.
You mean just like the JAVA virtual machine, the one MS hacked Windows to make not work.
"it becomes clear to me that the Java OS will try to conquer the embedded marketplace from palm pilots over game machines to low-end terminals, while infesting all other computing"
"Instead of beating our heads against the wall trying to produce a portable executable + run-time library solution to compete head-on with Java, we decided to do the following:.. Hard-code support for these features into Win3.1 and Mac versions of IE, including VB script"
Does anyone see nothing wrong in a professional journalist using a fake anonymous blog to post garbage like this.
'Freetards in deep denial..'
"Freetard fails to notice the huge hole in his argument which is that -- imagine Sam Kinison screaming now -- fucking Linux is fucking free you fucking idiot! Linux is even cheaper than Windows"
"Think, jackass. Why is it okay for IBM and its Linux puppets to give software away free but not Microsoft?2
"And you guys are starting to sound like the world's biggeest whiners, constantly blaming everyone around you for your own failures. You're the John Kerry of software"
'In other words: The cat-lady personal-injury lawyer in Iowa who's been
running the shakedown on Microsoft finally decided to take the money and
scoot'
Shilling for SCO..
"the Free Software Foundation doesn't want royalties--it wants you to burn down your house, or at the very least share it with cloners"
Providing a unique interpretation of GPL licensed code..
"For the past two years Fleury's company, Atlanta, Ga.-based JBoss, has been stealing business from IBM (nyse: IBM - news - people ) by giving away a set of open source programs"
Spining an acqusition for IBM into a death spiral of Open Source..
"Sounds like the dot-com bubble, except that this time it's not just
investors who will get burned. Customers are taking a risk too. Because
when these open source software providers burn through their venture
funding and go out of business"
Managing to get the words fanatics, stalinist, paranoia, zeolots and conspiracy into a mention of Open Source.
"Mickos is being denounced as a traitor by noisy fanatics in the open source software community"
"For die-hard open-source zealots, this difference is not just a matter of personal preference or technical advantage; it's a holy war. And SCO is the Great Satan"
'Nasty as the open source crunchies might be, they may be nothing compared to the hardball tactics for which Oracle is known'
"Then I can only assume that consistent formatting is not an issue with you and your co-workers. But it is with me, and my experience sharing files between MS Office and Open Office is uniformly negative"
Try and open a MS OFFICE file on another computer with a different make of printer and the formatting gets mixed up. If you want to preserve formatting then use PDF.
was: Re:Fantasy
Three reasons why Linux cannot be used in an enterprise environment:
"I am unaware of a framework that allows corporate system administrators to change a setting on all of their Linux PC's at the same time.."
"Novell ZENworks helps customers eliminate administrator effort and reduce IT costs while delivering the IT resources that users need, when they need them--all based on identity. It provides an integrated set of cross-platform tools that automate management across the lifecycle of desktops, laptops, server, and handheld devices"
"when things go wrong, you can point your finger at Microsoft.."
"So you bought the product and got it installed. Now what? Don't worry--we don't leave you hanging. We've got world-class training and round-the-clock support at your beck and call. We're here for you"
"on the job market, a worthy knowledge of Linux.. is hard to find"
You're kidding, once you have a core understanding of the protocols then admin on a Linux box is a doddle.
"There was a report several years ago that the US had used the rock outcroppings behind Osama in one of his videos to attempt to locate him. I wonder if some of these modifications are made to make locating them more difficult?"
They used the same image with the same default admin password on all the machines. How he was caught. He then used a remote desktop app to control the machines and wrote msgs in notpad to the admin. He says there were lots of people on at the same time as him. The machines contained nothing but low level logistic and stock records. Besides which Gary was smoking so much dope at the time that he forgot what he saw.
"The Americans have a secret spaceship?" I ask.
"That's what this trickle of evidence has led me to believe."
Now if they would only fight their terrorist wars in SecondLife, wouldn't that be just peachy. That way I would only have to contend with the maintenance crew the next time I take a tube ride. Engines keep falling off, glue on the electric rails ignites etc. I'd much prefer if the gov didn't announce the next security threat, ignorance is bliss...
I don't understand why they have to choose, Secondlife, couldn't they fork out on a Counterstrike server. After all I would have thought they would want to keep the 'training' secret.
"Is it game over for OpenDocument? Probably. We've been expecting Massachusetts ITD to publicly revise its open formats mandate to include Office Open XML (OOXML) ever since Louis Gutierrez resigned as CIO in early October 2006. That was as clear a signal that ODF had failed in Massachusetts as needed by anyone in the know"
How can you equate political machinations with the the technical merits of a document format. If OOXML was so technically superior then why did MS need to get the decision to go with ODF reversed and Peter Quinn effectivly FIRED.
Yea I know, they just cut his funding and ignored his recommendations.. same thing...
Slashdot Mirror
"This insinuation that MS is causing a 'coming divide' in the Linux community
"is he saying he wants FOSS to become, instead of a competitor, more like a kind of cheap subsidiary that innovates principally for Microsoft's benefit? Microsoft gets innovation and code and makes money from it. Maybe some patents you didn't notice, too. Linux vendors on the bridge make some money. You get nothing"
"Linspire has now signed a patent deal with Microsoft, which I'm sure does not surprise you. They've been foreshadowing it for some time. Linspire says that Microsoft will now help them deliver a "better Linux". As you know, that has long been Microsoft's dream"
"BayStar Capital has invested in SCO to the tune of $50 million. They call it a private investment transaction"
"On the top it's constrained by the Unix and socket interfaces. That doesnt leave a whole lot of room for innovative bits in the middle"
What can't Unix sockets do exactly?
Can you provide any examples of these 'innovative bits'?
was: Re:Beg to differ
"GPLv3 Enforcement: This Could Become a Bumpy Road"
"Working Together As a Community to Leave Behind Microsoft Media Formats"
"Separating the Weak From the Strong"
"No matter how hard we try to down play it, the patent threats and deals that are being made because of them are hurting the community - it's a simple fact. The real trick will be to see who sticks this out and who falls back to closed source alternatives, as we see Linux getting split with IP politics"
Don't comment on the article, instead talk about the layout ..
ws: Re:Where's the beef?
Where exactly in the article did you see FUD ..
was: Re:Why is Slashdot..
Where exactly in the article did you see FUD ..
was: Re:Sounds Like FUD To Me
They should get in a camera system that recognises number plates, get people to subscribe to store cards and ATM cards, give all government agencies access to your e-mail and browsing habits, that way they could track the people and still pretend they live in a democracy ..
In a flash advert immediatly below the story:
..
.. :)
STATE GOVERNMENT
SAYS LINUX WAS TOO BIG A RISK
-------
"We can't take big risks with our technology," said
Paul Campbell, former Director of the Illinois
Department of Central Management Services, "State
government needs trusted, tested technology that's
reliable and predictable,"
FUD + ADVERT == FudVERT
Taco, have you no shame
I do not respect a company that gets it's paid shills in the media to refer to Open Source people as zealots and 'lintards'.
..
..
.. I strongly believe that if September 11 showed us anything, it was that zealots'
"This is a matter of leadership - for us to recognise that the world some times does see open source or open source licences as risky"
Only when the world is being fed lies by the self same SCO/Baystar/MS
"He also pointed out that many firms shy away from participating on open source mailing lists because discussions there tend to explode into flame wars "
Given that most online forums are infested with paid for or otherwise astroturfers and shills it's not surprising that things decend into flame wars. Anyone who puts forward an opinion that MS product is less then steller is duely targeted with abuse. The response being then used to paint the 'Lintards' in a bad light.
For an example take Rob 'SCO' Enderle
'many Linux supporters are a bunch of potty-mouthed malcontents. Enterprises are better off staying away from Linux and open source'
'I have a hard time seeing the Zealots as any different from terrorist
"That's a Microsoft product, right? Just checking, that's all"
Not exactly but you do have to ask billg's permission before working on YOUR own code and can't make any money out of it and YOU don't own it. Apart from that YOU are free to do what you want.
To the arse that modded the previous message 'flamebait', why not sod off and go back to patroling the openSUSE forum.
was: SUSE (Score:0, Flamebait)
"You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your organization provided that: 1) You receive no consideration; and, 2) you do not bundle or combine the Software with another offering""
.. You acquire only a license to use the Software"
.. written notice of termination by either party, or (v) the date on which You breach any of the terms of this Beta Agreement"
.. publish or disclose .. the results of any benchmark test of the Software"
...
"You may not: (1) reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the Software"
"The Software may contain an automatic disabling mechanism that prevents its use after a certain period of time"
"No title to or ownership of the Software is transferred to You
"This Beta Agreement shall terminate upon the earlier of
"You may not
What's the whole point of openSUSE again. If the GPL is such an onerous license then why don't Novell strip all GPL licensed code from SUSE Linux, after all, what's only valuable is the kernel, right 'elsewhere'
What Bruce Wayne does for relaxation has no bearing on the Fake Lyons blog, unless he's given to wearing a pair of Steve Jobes spotted undies while thus engaged. Please don't tell us about your other hobby.
was: Re:Dan Lyons (Score: weird)
"What's the big security problem with XP? It installed by default with a firewall that denied inbound connections"
...
'Storm Worm' Sweeps Into U.S.
Click and install is what
"Windows XP was released with no effective firewall software, leaving users exposed in an online world. The situation was eventually remedied with the inclusion of Windows Firewall in XP Service Pack 2. This application in an of itself wasn't considered the best client firewall out there, but it did (and does) effectively stop incoming traffic"
A software filewall is next to useless as it can be disabled by the malware. You need a standalone embedded solution like what comes on the average ADSL router. Blocking outgoing traffic is also considered de rigueur as it prevents the malware from contacting its host, when the machine invariably gets infected with the next virus.
You mean just like the JAVA virtual machine, the one MS hacked Windows to make not work.
.. Hard-code support for these features into Win3.1 and Mac versions of IE, including VB script"
"it becomes clear to me that the Java OS will try to conquer the embedded marketplace from palm pilots over game machines to low-end terminals, while infesting all other computing"
"Instead of beating our heads against the wall trying to produce a portable executable + run-time library solution to compete head-on with Java, we decided to do the following:
"You're not suggesting that The Secret Diary is professional journalism, are you? .."
No, I say that the secret diary was done by a professional journalist with an agenda. Someone else don't agree with the 'humour' either.
Why I Don't Think Dan Lyons is Funny
Does anyone see nothing wrong in a professional journalist using a fake anonymous blog to post garbage like this.
..'
n -deep-denial.html
'Freetards in deep denial
"Freetard fails to notice the huge hole in his argument which is that -- imagine Sam Kinison screaming now -- fucking Linux is fucking free you fucking idiot! Linux is even cheaper than Windows"
"Think, jackass. Why is it okay for IBM and its Linux puppets to give software away free but not Microsoft?2
"And you guys are starting to sound like the world's biggeest whiners, constantly blaming everyone around you for your own failures. You're the John Kerry of software"
http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/07/freetards-i
Shilling for MICROS~1
..
..
..
'In other words: The cat-lady personal-injury lawyer in Iowa who's been running the shakedown on Microsoft finally decided to take the money and scoot'
Shilling for SCO
"the Free Software Foundation doesn't want royalties--it wants you to burn down your house, or at the very least share it with cloners"
Providing a unique interpretation of GPL licensed code
"For the past two years Fleury's company, Atlanta, Ga.-based JBoss, has been stealing business from IBM (nyse: IBM - news - people ) by giving away a set of open source programs"
Spining an acqusition for IBM into a death spiral of Open Source
"Sounds like the dot-com bubble, except that this time it's not just investors who will get burned. Customers are taking a risk too. Because when these open source software providers burn through their venture funding and go out of business"
Managing to get the words fanatics, stalinist, paranoia, zeolots and conspiracy into a mention of Open Source.
"Mickos is being denounced as a traitor by noisy fanatics in the open source software community"
"For die-hard open-source zealots, this difference is not just a matter of personal preference or technical advantage; it's a holy war. And SCO is the Great Satan"
'Nasty as the open source crunchies might be, they may be nothing compared to the hardball tactics for which Oracle is known'
"Then I can only assume that consistent formatting is not an issue with you and your co-workers. But it is with me, and my experience sharing files between MS Office and Open Office is uniformly negative"
Try and open a MS OFFICE file on another computer with a different make of printer and the formatting gets mixed up. If you want to preserve formatting then use PDF. was: Re:Fantasy
Three reasons why Linux cannot be used in an enterprise environment: "I am unaware of a framework that allows corporate system administrators to change a setting on all of their Linux PC's at the same time .."
.."
.. is hard to find"
"Novell ZENworks helps customers eliminate administrator effort and reduce IT costs while delivering the IT resources that users need, when they need them--all based on identity. It provides an integrated set of cross-platform tools that automate management across the lifecycle of desktops, laptops, server, and handheld devices"
"when things go wrong, you can point your finger at Microsoft
"So you bought the product and got it installed. Now what? Don't worry--we don't leave you hanging. We've got world-class training and round-the-clock support at your beck and call. We're here for you"
"on the job market, a worthy knowledge of Linux
You're kidding, once you have a core understanding of the protocols then admin on a Linux box is a doddle.
Re:Two reasons why Linux cannot be used
"There was a report several years ago that the US had used the rock outcroppings behind Osama in one of his videos to attempt to locate him. I wonder if some of these modifications are made to make locating them more difficult?"
He could have been taken when the CIA met with Bin Landin at the American Hospital two months before 9/11 or when the FBI met with Bin Landin in California in 1986.
was: Re:Done for their safety?
They used the same image with the same default admin password on all the machines. How he was caught. He then used a remote desktop app to control the machines and wrote msgs in notpad to the admin. He says there were lots of people on at the same time as him. The machines contained nothing but low level logistic and stock records. Besides which Gary was smoking so much dope at the time that he forgot what he saw.
"The Americans have a secret spaceship?" I ask.
"That's what this trickle of evidence has led me to believe."
"Some kind of other Mir that nobody knows about?"
"I guess so," says Gary.
"What were the ship names?"
"I can't remember," says Gary. "I was smoking a lot of dope at the time. Not good for the intellect."
They should let him light up a spliff in the dock, that way his memory should return.
Now if they would only fight their terrorist wars in SecondLife, wouldn't that be just peachy. That way I would only have to contend with the maintenance crew the next time I take a tube ride. Engines keep falling off, glue on the electric rails ignites etc. I'd much prefer if the gov didn't announce the next security threat, ignorance is bliss ...
I don't understand why they have to choose, Secondlife, couldn't they fork out on a Counterstrike server. After all I would have thought they would want to keep the 'training' secret.
Write once thermal magnetic paper tape or digital optical tape
"Is it game over for OpenDocument? Probably. We've been expecting Massachusetts ITD to publicly revise its open formats mandate to include Office Open XML (OOXML) ever since Louis Gutierrez resigned as CIO in early October 2006. That was as clear a signal that ODF had failed in Massachusetts as needed by anyone in the know"
.. same thing ...
How can you equate political machinations with the the technical merits of a document format. If OOXML was so technically superior then why did MS need to get the decision to go with ODF reversed and Peter Quinn effectivly FIRED.
Yea I know, they just cut his funding and ignored his recommendations