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Well, I think there are experts who claim Linux violates our intellectual property.
But to the degree that that's the case,
of course we owe it to our shareholders to have a strategy.
And when there is something interesting to say,
you'll be the first to hear it.
"The IT department at my company (approximately some 500 people) is showing signs of incompetence.."
Could you be a little more specific. In what areas are they showing signs of incompetence. A multinational company I recently worked for had twelve techies for the entire London Office of three hundred. That would put your company at 12,500 for a company with 500 techies.
".. and has been ignoring knowledgeable user input for about a year"
When you say `knowledgeable user input' do you mean in a non technical sense and if so could you provide concrete examples please.
"Additionally, they haven't been able to sell needed changes to senior management".
This seems to contradict your earlier statements re `ignoring knowledgeable user input'
"Unacceptable server down time, maxed network storage, and no backups systems have hit the bottom line,"
What causes the server to go down?
What is preventing the 500 techie IT dept from buying extra disk space?
What 12,500 employee company don't keep backups?
".. and those on top are starting to notice."
But you just said `senior management' don't take notice.
"We users are staging a revolt to make IT more responsive to users..
But you just said that the IT dept hadn't..
"been able to sell needed changes to senior management"
Didn't anyone actually read this before responding.
Didn't anyone notice that it is nothing but a self contradictory TROLL.
Incidentally that 12 techie IT team did nothing but run round reinstalling
Windows profiles after senior management decided to 'upgrade`
from Novell to Windows because Winows had active directory(TM)
"Make no mistake, Windows Live is our strategic bet to change the game and win.."
translation: We can't win on technology so we are going to change the rules.
'Windows Live Local search.. "is surpassing our competition with industry-leading technology"'
translation: We produce industry-leading technology despite the fact that we are playing catchup with Google and our sucessive desktop product adds little to the user experience.
"Over the next 3-6 months, we'll ship more innovative technology into the marketplace than during our entire 10-year history,"
translation: We actually shipped innovative technology in the past ten years. At least we'de like to pollute the record with this wish-fulfillment fantasy.
"I know we've spent the last few years coming from behind, but we've truly turned a huge corner," Cole says. "
I thought that corners only came in obtuse and acute angles. How can you logically be coming from behind while turning a huge corner.
Why is a marketing blurb worthy of mention on slashdot?
you provided a link to a site which contains very little if any educational software for children aged about 4-12.
Yet again you perform the subject shuffle. There are none, they are not the right age, they don't have such feeture etc...
Have you ever heard of the scientific principle that you cannot prove the non-existence of something?
Then why make this statement or support it?
'When you says availability of educational software, you mean "none"
I have provided at least one such site and you responded with a trolling tactic. Shame on you:)
proving such software DOES exists should be simple if it truely existed
OK trollie, just the once: The existance of one such site negates the statement re: you mean "none", quod erat demonstrandum.
Show me the Linux equivalent of any of their products and you've convinced me.
For someone who invokes the scientific method you do seem to lack basic skills in logic. I asked for samples of software functionality - not commercial titles. You responded by asking *me* to provide samples of the opposite. Illogical Captain:)
'When you says availability of educational software, you mean "none"' techstar25 (556988)
'Browsing through the tools on that Seul/Edu site, it seems practically none of them are meant for teaching children' mwvdlee (775178)
A bit of a subject shuffle, you did say "you mean "none"'". I provided a link so there is at least one site, isn't there.
'FrontPage (I don't have the spare time to type html)'
People, now we know he's just trolling. No I'm not going to provide links to the numerous WebEditors that are not called FrontPage.
'But feel free to post a link to a quality educational package one Linux that was designed by people knowledgeable'
In other words, please feel free to do my homework for me. I don't *have* to prove there is educational software for Linux. You have to provide proof that there is *none*. I usually see this kind of tactic on Usenet, but carry on why don't you.
'Nearly every one of those applications listed appear very low quality, and very poorly designed, developed by hobbyists.' Pocketfactory (740436)
Are you seriously telling us that you actually tested the over 664 packages on the Seul/Edu site.
Please provide samples of software functionality that is only available on Windows.
Maybe 'cause Linux isn't ready for the desktop...by Pedrito (94783)
'Look, I like Linux in a lot of ways.. I simply find Windows easier to use in a number of ways'
For the average user KDE is indistinguishable from Windows. I've sat people down in front of this KDE desktop and they don't notice. Personally I prefer a desktop uncluttered with feetures which is why I use XFCE.
'It doesn't matter which version of Windows you run (okay, not necessarily with '95, '98 or something even more ancient) you can install the same.exe file and run it'
Under Windows, Acrobat Reader refused to install until I installed some service pack. Installing version X of something breaks version Y of something else. Have you never ever come across the term DLL hell.
'Installing apps in Linux, especially the less popular ones, can be a very trying experience'
Personally I find YaST to be perfectly straight forward in installing as it automatically installs the requisite packages. Where a 'click.here.to.install' package isn't available the RPM installer handles it equally well even if you have to type $rpm -ivh filename.rpm to install or rpm -Uvh filename.rpm to upgrade.
Where I have attempted to compile from source and run into difficulties, I emailed the developers and what's more got a reply. The problem being that I didn't RTFM
'I generally see the failings in being the areas that affect your non-tech users. Ease of use, ease of finding apps, ease of installing said apps'
Nonsense, for the average user they can Browse, Email, Edit documents and burn CDs without the danger of wiping out their C:\Windows folder into the bargan.
'MS, for all of their faults, have done a pretty good job of making stuff easy to use. It comes, in part, from spending a great deal of time and money doing usability testing of their software'
Have you actually tried to do real work under the default desktop in XP. To do a search you have to click start->search, disable the talking dog, select from: 'search for pictures', 'search for files', disable the talking dog, 'on this computer', 'on the lan', 'the C: drive', 'the D: drive', 'the internet', subselection, search by date, disable the talking dog, browse folders, select folders to browse etc.... (disable the talking dog)
Under bash type.. $locate file.
'Another failing in Linux is that, a lot of apps aren't terribly easy to use. Many Linux developers, especially for smaller apps, still have a tendency to focus on command-line apps. MPlayer, for example: An app for watching movies, is command-line'
The Mplayer I am using requires no command line usage. Whice version are you refering to?
'Most non-tech users don't even know Windows has a command line. They don't need to know. That's a good thing.
I can think of nothing an average user might need that they cannot do through the GUI.
was.. Diebold Whistle-Blower Charged With Felony Access
'the whistle-blower, Stephen Heller, has been charged in L.A. Superior Court with felony access to computer data, commercial burglary, and receiving stolen property.'
Is anyone in Diebold ever going to be held accountable?
'Some security experts believe hackers are becoming more interested in writing nasty code for Macs precisely because of reports of its relative immunity to security woes,'
These are the same 'security experts' that were upto recently predicting that no one was writing malware for the Mac precisly bqcause of its low userbase.
'Apple itself has gone out of its way not to promote the Mac's relative safety, lest it tempt hackers to prove the company wrong. Apple declined to discuss the topic of security in depth for this article.'
This would also be news to the Apple developers. Does this 'security experts' have any citations for this statement. Also OS X is based on bsdUnix which by default works on the least privilege model they are currently innovating into Vista.
"Litigation suits can be tremendously expensive, with the cost easily exceeding what you paid for the software many times over''
For a company that warns off others against using Open Source because of litigation concerns they do seem to spend an inordinant amount of time in court defending itself against accusations of violating/stealing other peoples IP.
"As an industry leader, we are committed to spreading awareness on the issue among the Indian CIOs so they can make the best software decision that will best meet their business needs while at the same time balancing the risks involved,''
As a convicted monopolist, we are committed to spreading as much fud amoung CIOs so as we can scare them off buying anything other thing MS as well as forcing up the cost of Open Source through the use of bogus IP litigation concerns.(end translation)
Most people have little to fear as you're not big enough to go after. Unlike Apple, Amazon or Blackberry for instance. Good times ahead for the lawyers I guess. The root cause of the current IP racket is the US Patent Office and its predilection to grant nonsensical patents. We need less IP law not more. Lets see where doing business with a 'legimite' software company gets you:
Pronouncments like this also give the impression that MS is in some way directing the development of the Open Source model. That and the use of the word 'open' at every opportunity. It's called stealing mindshare.
"We have an impact from what people call the ripple effect... What would actually happen if we were in that environment?"
We hope to gain some control over that environment by engaging with it. He also had this to say previously..
But MS Open Standards does not actually mean the protocols and interfaces are in the public domain does it. A royalty free license is still tied to Microsoft. But keep on repeating the word 'open'.
"Linux is somewhat inferior to commercial offerings when considered as a general-purpose desktop operating system"
I'm sorry Bill, but you just lost your credibility. (Sent from a SuSE Desktop. No viruses, no blue screens etc..)
You are quite correct, Google didn't invent any of the above and what is more to the point doesn't claim to have but do deserve some credit for Gmail and the rest.
According to this blog entry MS invented Ajax in 1998: "All of the pieces of AJAX.. have been available in Internet Explorer for some time, and Outlook Web Access.. since 1998"
I've just patented a method for comparing source code trees and tell Senior Gonzales that he is now violating my Intellectiual Property and I'm going to sue his ass off (as they say in America).
"Isn't this already being pioneered in San Francisco and countless other places?"
Yae, but MS invented it first in 2006 and these others retrospectivly (through a wormhole) just copied Microsoft's innovation. The same way Google copied MS Ajax and Yahoo copied Hotmail (sarcasm).
"Vista takes security to the next level. There are literally too many changes to list here, from the bidirectional software firewall.."
A software firewall isn't really a firewall more an emulation of one that runs as a system process one that can be hijacked by the next virus/worm.
And one that wasn't 'bidirectional' was never a real firewall in the first place> That you have now to tout such as innovative is ludicrous.
"to Windows Services Hardening, which prevents obscure background processes from being hijacked and changing your system.."
When you say 'takes security to the next level' you do mean Windows security, don't you ?
"Perhaps most crucial (and least sexy) is the long-overdue User Account Protection,"
Err.. SuDO ?
"Internet Explorer.. tabbed pages"
Yawn..
"new antiphishing features.."
How about a system that is immune to phishing, not that would be really innovative.
"IE7 on Vista will run in what Microsoft calls "protected mode""
You mean like Firefox running as a user proccess under Linux or Safari under OS X.
"The new OS tightly integrates instant desktop search.."
The old embed, engulf, make impossible to remove and devour switcheroo.
"And now key components, such as the Windows Defender antispyware module.."
How about building a system that didn't get hijecked by spyware just by browsing a web site. Not that would really be innovative, for Microsoft that is.
"You can also restrict each account's access by time of day or day of the week."
More innovation?..
What's left, translucent windows that goes wavey when you move them. That I should live in such times..
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Could not connect: User root has already more than 'max_user_connections' active connections
Vista to eradicate spyware
See Slashdot Trolled
.. Rejected Tuesday March 14, @02:15PM
See also patenting the patently obvious
What is preventing the 500 techie IT dept from buying extra disk space?
What 12,500 employee company don't keep backups? But you just said `senior management' don't take notice. But you just said that the IT dept hadn't
Didn't anyone notice that it is nothing but a self contradictory TROLL.
Incidentally that 12 techie IT team did nothing but run round reinstalling
Windows profiles after senior management decided to 'upgrade`
from Novell to Windows because Winows had active directory(TM)
That would of course be the default value.
:)
Possible where MS got the idea to make boolean tristate, as in TRUE, FALSE or DEFAULT
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Please provide samples of software functionality that is only available on Windows.
Where I have attempted to compile from source and run into difficulties, I emailed the developers and what's more got a reply. The problem being that I didn't RTFM Nonsense, for the average user they can Browse, Email, Edit documents and burn CDs without the danger of wiping out their C:\Windows folder into the bargan. Have you actually tried to do real work under the default desktop in XP. To do a search you have to click start->search, disable the talking dog, select from: 'search for pictures', 'search for files', disable the talking dog, 'on this computer', 'on the lan', 'the C: drive', 'the D: drive', 'the internet', subselection, search by date, disable the talking dog, browse folders, select folders to browse etc
Under bash type
I can think of nothing an average user might need that they cannot do through the GUI.
What ever you do - under no circumstances move to Open Source :]
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Please provide samples of software functionality that is only available on Windows.
These are the same 'security experts' that were upto recently predicting that no one was writing malware for the Mac precisly bqcause of its low userbase.
This would also be news to the Apple developers. Does this 'security experts' have any citations for this statement. Also OS X is based on bsdUnix which by default works on the least privilege model they are currently innovating into Vista.
For a company that warns off others against using Open Source because of litigation concerns they do seem to spend an inordinant amount of time in court defending itself against accusations of violating/stealing other peoples IP.
"As an industry leader, we are committed to spreading awareness on the issue among the Indian CIOs so they can make the best software decision that will best meet their business needs while at the same time balancing the risks involved,''
As a convicted monopolist, we are committed to spreading as much fud amoung CIOs so as we can scare them off buying anything other thing MS as well as forcing up the cost of Open Source through the use of bogus IP litigation concerns.(end translation)
Most people have little to fear as you're not big enough to go after. Unlike Apple, Amazon or Blackberry for instance. Good times ahead for the lawyers I guess. The root cause of the current IP racket is the US Patent Office and its predilection to grant nonsensical patents. We need less IP law not more. Lets see where doing business with a 'legimite' software company gets you:
A List of Microsoft Litigation
Microsoft Litigation
Just using the conference to confuse, confound and inject a little fud ..
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... What would actually happen if we were in that environment?"
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"I personally don't believe tech support calls for a commodity product is sustainable,"
No one ever made money out of Open Source
"In many regards, the Microsoft open-source story lends itself to a great metaphor of David and Goliath," "That is a challenge over perception"
One way of meeting the challenge is to hire on the best out of Open Source taking them out of the Gene pool.
"Microsoft has benefited from OSS, has participated in OSS projects, and feels that OSS will continue to have an important role in the ecosystem"
Pronouncments like this also give the impression that MS is in some way directing the development of the Open Source model. That and the use of the word 'open' at every opportunity. It's called stealing mindshare.
"We have an impact from what people call the ripple effect
We hope to gain some control over that environment by engaging with it. He also had this to say previously
When we think about criteria around interoperability, we will have a great foundation in Longhorn to help exercise the criteria around that."
Open Source does not equal Open Standards.
But MS Open Standards does not actually mean the protocols and interfaces are in the public domain does it. A royalty free license is still tied to Microsoft. But keep on repeating the word 'open'.
"Linux is somewhat inferior to commercial offerings when considered as a general-purpose desktop operating system"
I'm sorry Bill, but you just lost your credibility. (Sent from a SuSE Desktop. No viruses, no blue screens etc
http://fudwatcher.blogspot.com/
You are quite correct, Google didn't invent any of the above and what is more to the point doesn't claim to have but do deserve some credit for Gmail and the rest.
.. have been available in Internet Explorer for some time, and Outlook Web Access .. since 1998"
According to this blog entry MS invented Ajax in 1998: "All of the pieces of AJAX
http://fudwatcher.blogspot.com/
I've just patented a method for comparing source code trees and tell Senior Gonzales that he is now violating my Intellectiual Property and I'm going to sue his ass off (as they say in America).
http://fudwatcher.blogspot.com/
"Isn't this already being pioneered in San Francisco and countless other places?"
Yae, but MS invented it first in 2006 and these others retrospectivly (through a wormhole) just copied Microsoft's innovation. The same way Google copied MS Ajax and Yahoo copied Hotmail (sarcasm).
Why don't the lawyers provide indemnification against getting "computer viruses".?
Why don't they make an OS that is immune from getting viruses just by clicking on a hot link or opening an attachment?
http://fudwatcher.blogspot.com/
"Vista takes security to the next level. There are literally too many changes to list here, from the bidirectional software firewall .."
.."
.. SuDO ?
.. tabbed pages"
..
.."
.."
.."
..
..
A software firewall isn't really a firewall more an emulation of one that runs as a system process one that can be hijacked by the next virus/worm.
And one that wasn't 'bidirectional' was never a real firewall in the first place> That you have now to tout such as innovative is ludicrous.
"to Windows Services Hardening, which prevents obscure background processes from being hijacked and changing your system
When you say 'takes security to the next level' you do mean Windows security, don't you ?
"Perhaps most crucial (and least sexy) is the long-overdue User Account Protection,"
Err
"Internet Explorer
Yawn
"new antiphishing features
How about a system that is immune to phishing, not that would be really innovative.
"IE7 on Vista will run in what Microsoft calls "protected mode""
You mean like Firefox running as a user proccess under Linux or Safari under OS X.
"The new OS tightly integrates instant desktop search
The old embed, engulf, make impossible to remove and devour switcheroo.
"And now key components, such as the Windows Defender antispyware module
How about building a system that didn't get hijecked by spyware just by browsing a web site. Not that would really be innovative, for Microsoft that is.
"You can also restrict each account's access by time of day or day of the week."
More innovation?
What's left, translucent windows that goes wavey when you move them. That I should live in such times
Fudwatcher
Maybe it's because you don't notice the deterioration in dumb people.
I see dumb people... they're everywhere.
They walk around like everyone else.
They don't even know that they're dumb.
Fudwatcher
What did Steve Jobs have to say when John C. Dvorak asked him to confirm this?
Fudwatcher
The irony is that TPM *is* the backdoor into the system. fudwatcher