What does X11 have to do with anything? You still aren't dual booting.
iBooks and Powerbooks NIC cards aren't supported by YDL? News to me.
Can't use Flash? What are you taking about?
I'm not sure why Apple often gets the wrath on SlashDot from the Linux community. My only explanation is that Linux users are more often than not also Windows users. They dual boot. They have other PCs laying around running Windows.
Why not use MacOS X and be able to run mainstream apps and have a unix core without dual booting? Why not run Yellow Dog Linux and truly thumb your nose at the MS/Intel duopoly?
Apple is is the same boat as Linux. Trying to tell the world that they have a viable OS platform other than Windows. Apple is succeeding and putting a unix machine on millions of desktops.
Be Happy!
I appreciate the insight, really I do. I never claimed to be an expert. I do what works for us and I've really never had any issue with the data. I'm not really sure where one would pick up Databases 101. People like me are asked to do 10 different things and we don't have the luxury of spending thousands on databases or focusing purely on every morsel of data integrity. My main directive is fast and reliable input of data and then to give that data back in a formatted piece of paper. There is nothing earth-shattering.
It seems some of you are barking up the wrong tree. Some of us simply don't need the functionality of a full featured database system. For mission critical tasks, we buy turnkey products made by people that worry about such things.
I'm really not trying to argue but giving a point of view that many many users of MySQL hold. We need fast containers of data to put things out and pull things out of when called upon.
In a utopian database geek world, you are absolutely correct. An orphan record to me means another record that is never accessed. The orphan does absolutely nothing to the data that is being accessed. A user selects a row in a master table and looks for related records in another table. If a master record is never selected, the orphans aren't either. They just consume disk - no big deal.
I suppose I fall into the realm of "trivial applications" however and if I was writing some sort of banking app, I wouldn't use MySQL. I merely use MySQL to record data and to call up that data when needed.
That may be true. But I personally don't want or need the database to enforce any rules. I know EXACTLY what is being inserted into the database every single time.
You say that I'm wasting time by writing code to do what the database is supposed to do. OK, fine. If I do it your way, I waste time writing endless code to trap errors and recover for the user. I'd rather test the app and be certain the integrity of that data before its inserted. Are you one of these people that just present the user with a cryptic database error instead of testing the code thoroughly?
The one thing I would like is Triggers since I'd like to clean up orphan records but really, not a huge deal.
If his code only allows certain data to be inserted into the fields in his database, whats the issue? I don't get the people who think only the database can possibly manage the itntegrity of the data being inserted. My god man, if you can't validate data before it gets inserted, YOU need to get a new job as well.
A database is a container. The interface to the database and the average user of the database controls how and when data is queried or inserted. I personally don't want to write my code around the database idiosyncrasies. I want the database to do MY bidding. There is no way for a user to circumvent my code and exploit MySQL's limitations.
They didn't GO to college - they were PROFESSORS at MIT and if you happen to dig deeper you'd find that most of the nodes on the Arpanet were on college campuses implemented by college personnel. My god man.
Like I said, do your wives and children a favor and find a better job. I haven't bought a computer in years. My employer buys them for me as well as my internet access at home.
No offense, but perhaps you should spend less time building PC's and more time looking for a better job.
Windows users are cheapest people I've ever seen!
If If If. IF your machine is patched with SP2. Tell that to the thousands of grandmas and yokels buying lousy PCs from their local Sam's Club.
Furthermore, its just a matter of time until the next boneheaded vulnerability in Windows comes to light. But SP2 solves all, right?
Try again next time.
Sounds like you have no idea how to use iTunes and followup the ignorance with falsehoods. You should do some research on topics you obviously are struggling with.
Yes, but the guy is a tool. He attempts to fit piece of shit PC parts inside an engineering marvel. Like the Apple engineers just came up with this over the weekend.
There is no innovation or engineering by PC companies. Stop with the Apple envy and use your enormous clunky tower with your parallel and serial ports. Leave the Apple boxes alone.
Moron.
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Wait. Are you referring to a Windows machine as a "real computer?" Bwahahahahahahaaa Priceless.
Yeah, iPod support EXCEPT for Mac users. What a joke and an insult.
What does X11 have to do with anything? You still aren't dual booting. iBooks and Powerbooks NIC cards aren't supported by YDL? News to me. Can't use Flash? What are you taking about?
I'm not sure why Apple often gets the wrath on SlashDot from the Linux community. My only explanation is that Linux users are more often than not also Windows users. They dual boot. They have other PCs laying around running Windows. Why not use MacOS X and be able to run mainstream apps and have a unix core without dual booting? Why not run Yellow Dog Linux and truly thumb your nose at the MS/Intel duopoly? Apple is is the same boat as Linux. Trying to tell the world that they have a viable OS platform other than Windows. Apple is succeeding and putting a unix machine on millions of desktops. Be Happy!
I appreciate the insight, really I do. I never claimed to be an expert. I do what works for us and I've really never had any issue with the data. I'm not really sure where one would pick up Databases 101. People like me are asked to do 10 different things and we don't have the luxury of spending thousands on databases or focusing purely on every morsel of data integrity. My main directive is fast and reliable input of data and then to give that data back in a formatted piece of paper. There is nothing earth-shattering. It seems some of you are barking up the wrong tree. Some of us simply don't need the functionality of a full featured database system. For mission critical tasks, we buy turnkey products made by people that worry about such things. I'm really not trying to argue but giving a point of view that many many users of MySQL hold. We need fast containers of data to put things out and pull things out of when called upon.
In a utopian database geek world, you are absolutely correct. An orphan record to me means another record that is never accessed. The orphan does absolutely nothing to the data that is being accessed. A user selects a row in a master table and looks for related records in another table. If a master record is never selected, the orphans aren't either. They just consume disk - no big deal. I suppose I fall into the realm of "trivial applications" however and if I was writing some sort of banking app, I wouldn't use MySQL. I merely use MySQL to record data and to call up that data when needed.
That may be true. But I personally don't want or need the database to enforce any rules. I know EXACTLY what is being inserted into the database every single time. You say that I'm wasting time by writing code to do what the database is supposed to do. OK, fine. If I do it your way, I waste time writing endless code to trap errors and recover for the user. I'd rather test the app and be certain the integrity of that data before its inserted. Are you one of these people that just present the user with a cryptic database error instead of testing the code thoroughly? The one thing I would like is Triggers since I'd like to clean up orphan records but really, not a huge deal.
If his code only allows certain data to be inserted into the fields in his database, whats the issue? I don't get the people who think only the database can possibly manage the itntegrity of the data being inserted. My god man, if you can't validate data before it gets inserted, YOU need to get a new job as well.
A database is a container. The interface to the database and the average user of the database controls how and when data is queried or inserted. I personally don't want to write my code around the database idiosyncrasies. I want the database to do MY bidding. There is no way for a user to circumvent my code and exploit MySQL's limitations.
They didn't GO to college - they were PROFESSORS at MIT and if you happen to dig deeper you'd find that most of the nodes on the Arpanet were on college campuses implemented by college personnel. My god man.
I'd Google BBN if I were you.
Leo Beranek and Richard Bolt were both professors at MIT who formed a consulting company and then proceeded to create the ARPANET for the military.
Like I said, do your wives and children a favor and find a better job. I haven't bought a computer in years. My employer buys them for me as well as my internet access at home.
We only use Xserves. We have about 50 of them.
Me too. 11 years ago I was using Mosaic on an IBM RS/6000 at a University.
No offense, but perhaps you should spend less time building PC's and more time looking for a better job. Windows users are cheapest people I've ever seen!
Exactly. And Symantec basically abandoned the Mac platform years ago so they can kiss my arse.
If If If. IF your machine is patched with SP2. Tell that to the thousands of grandmas and yokels buying lousy PCs from their local Sam's Club. Furthermore, its just a matter of time until the next boneheaded vulnerability in Windows comes to light. But SP2 solves all, right? Try again next time.
Sounds like you have no idea how to use iTunes and followup the ignorance with falsehoods. You should do some research on topics you obviously are struggling with.
Yes, but the guy is a tool. He attempts to fit piece of shit PC parts inside an engineering marvel. Like the Apple engineers just came up with this over the weekend. There is no innovation or engineering by PC companies. Stop with the Apple envy and use your enormous clunky tower with your parallel and serial ports. Leave the Apple boxes alone. Moron.