oh - i don't think anyone would argue that sysadmins aren't idiots - just in different spheres of knowledge or influence.
i certainly couldn't cope in finance or psycology, but I'm not put into situations where I am expected to have a full working knowledge of the minutae of those fields and then left to my own devices to function - 'idiot be dammed'
That's basically what lawnboy was apparently suggesting - and that's a theory alot of sysadmins would reject in practice (i would love it if everyone could function in that way) but most won't and so it is left to us to safeguard them from themselves as well as others as much as possible. That's all it's about - it's not disdain for the person as a human, just a recognition of their skillset and the expectation that we should realisticlly have for them.
HAHAHA - spoken like the guy not responsible for cleaning up other people's messes and securing mission critical or personal data.
Users choosing their own level of security is why (probably) more than 70% of GeekSquad work is wiping hard drives due to malware.
In the real world of business, it is the sysadmins job to provide the resources to get the job done and keep data safe. That's it. Getting the job done does not include YouTube, Facebook, or Solitare (yes, there are cases where social media is required) You want that - do it at home.
Work is called that for a reason. Hopefully you are fortunate enough to enjoy the work that you do, making it seem less like work, but work it is and shall be and sucks to the whiners.
Decide to let the marketing team decide their own security - a task for which they have neither the training, time, or inclination to do, and now nobody can access anything because the network is overrun with malware.
Businesses run on specialization. Embrace that fact and let people ruin their own equipment. Not the company's.
What if they did. If you like the game enough - you'll go get the hardware. The primary difference here though is that Blizzard is not the manufacturer of the device you play their games on. What would be more likely is if they inked a deal with Dell that would have the next WoW game exclusively playable on Dell OEM.
Wrong - this may kill them in the homebrew or modding market, but MS was fairly efficient in limiting those activities to begin with on the 360.
The only important differentiators for single system buyers is the games available. Do they have the game(s) I want to play (and online with friends)
Storage is not a big deal and most new buyers wont even notice because the products will shortly fall of the shelf - which raises a more interesting question - will this actually end up happening or will Wal-Mart and the like leverage their ample weight against MS and cry foul because of now unsellable inventory?
What artifical means? They are modifying their privately developed and not-required to be standards compliant devices to not be compliant with standard devices. So the hell what? There is nothing artificial about it. I guess Sony is artifically disabling my ability to play 360 games on the Playstation - the monopolizing bastards.
the sheep don't care about any of their most important rights taken away - why would they fuss over this? they'll do whatever it takes to be able to keep watching american idol
not so fast:
Wait till you upgrade to blu-ray. Don't think that it won't become mandatory to have that little baby wired as well, at which point it will be shooting data upstream also.
LAN: The rear-panel Ethernet port gives you access to internet firmware updates. In addition, by connecting the BD-UP5000 to the internet, you may be able to access and enjoy additional content from your HD-DVD disc and download control programs for improved interactivity.
Lol - you know, I actually had a line about Babbage, but deleted it, figuring that there was no need to point out the distinction between what the op was referring to and what Babbage actually designed (but never created).
I think the argument could be made that Bell was in America when the telephone was invented - not conceived.
Regarding the lightbulb - toss up in my opinion. Edison built the first functional working model. Again, the difference between concept and function.
Point taken on the auto's, so I'll submit to Benz, but one also has to look at the timeline / functionality of Selden and the Duryea's vs. the first model of Benz.
Actually, the Internet is the one on the list that I had the most doubt about because there was a lot of work in England as well, even though we mostly recognize ArpaNet as the Internet's birth.
Thanks for the reminder to never count on my memory;)
"Children so stupid they think America invented the Internet, computer, motor car, light bulb, telephone etc ad infinitum...."
Hmmm.....America invented the:
Internet.....check
Computer.....check...holy crap...modern computing actually has it's roots in TEXAS of all places (see the integrated circuit)...so DOUBLE check
Motor Car....check again...lol - who would have thought, surely SOMETHING on this list was not invented by America
Light Bulb....check again, wow
Telephone.....and....wait for it.......check
1. Hard Liquor
2. Pills
3. Step 1 followed by Step 2
4. Step in conjunction with Step 2
5. See Slashdot poll for today - make friends will billionaire space pilot - relocate to the moon. Die when oxygen runs out.
No, it's a problem when the student feels like it is necessary to demonstrate in front of the entire class that he knows more than the teacher.
"Knowing more in an area" is pretty vague. Do you really expect a flesh and blood teacher to have the sum of all human knowledge at their fingertips?
"The stuff they use to teach the class" is also vague. Do you get pissed when the teacher can't turn the projector on? Heck, 75% of./ is probably employed because of one word: SPECIALIZATION
It isn't the teacher's freaking job to know the difference between Firefox and IE (even if it is a computer class that is teaching ANYTHING other than
A. web development
B. The differences between Firefox and IE
Any other course than those two options and the teacher is perfectly fine in not knowing that anything other than IE exists because it DOESN'T MATTER. Were the other kids complaining: "Hey, this site won't render in IE - I'm getting X error"? The teacher has the right and obligation to be in complete control of their environment. The teacher was unfamiliar with Firefox and wanted to kid to close it. Maybe the teacher knew it shouldn't have been installed. Maybe the teacher knew that multiple tabs could aid in cheating or give some other unfair advantage the other kids didn't have being on (crappy) IE. Maybe the teacher knew that IT has Group Policy established that prevents kids from clearing browsing history and cache from IE, but that Firefox wouldn't be limited and wants to make sure that the kid isn't violating web use policy.
The fact is - the teacher told him to do something and he refused. Twice.
The kid was told to do something and back-talked. Was he right? Technically yes. But sorry dude - you are about to hit the real world. Someone in authority tells you to do something - you do it. Then, after class, you go the teacher and say - "may I show you what I was using and why?" Have a discussion, demonstrate that you weren't being disrespectful or devious and you won't have a problem.
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There - fixed that for ya - Tyler Perry's Medea
Greek goddess goes to jail ya'll
Google is your friend:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/firefoxadm/
oh - i don't think anyone would argue that sysadmins aren't idiots - just in different spheres of knowledge or influence.
i certainly couldn't cope in finance or psycology, but I'm not put into situations where I am expected to have a full working knowledge of the minutae of those fields and then left to my own devices to function - 'idiot be dammed'
That's basically what lawnboy was apparently suggesting - and that's a theory alot of sysadmins would reject in practice (i would love it if everyone could function in that way) but most won't and so it is left to us to safeguard them from themselves as well as others as much as possible. That's all it's about - it's not disdain for the person as a human, just a recognition of their skillset and the expectation that we should realisticlly have for them.
Your link sir:
(note - this is the actual study publication - not the Ars news story about said publication)
http://media.haymarketmedia.com/Documents/1/SharekWogalterFakeWarning_publicationFinal_805.pdf
HAHAHA - spoken like the guy not responsible for cleaning up other people's messes and securing mission critical or personal data. Users choosing their own level of security is why (probably) more than 70% of GeekSquad work is wiping hard drives due to malware. In the real world of business, it is the sysadmins job to provide the resources to get the job done and keep data safe. That's it. Getting the job done does not include YouTube, Facebook, or Solitare (yes, there are cases where social media is required) You want that - do it at home.
Work is called that for a reason. Hopefully you are fortunate enough to enjoy the work that you do, making it seem less like work, but work it is and shall be and sucks to the whiners.
Decide to let the marketing team decide their own security - a task for which they have neither the training, time, or inclination to do, and now nobody can access anything because the network is overrun with malware.
Businesses run on specialization. Embrace that fact and let people ruin their own equipment. Not the company's.
What if they did. If you like the game enough - you'll go get the hardware. The primary difference here though is that Blizzard is not the manufacturer of the device you play their games on. What would be more likely is if they inked a deal with Dell that would have the next WoW game exclusively playable on Dell OEM.
Wrong - this may kill them in the homebrew or modding market, but MS was fairly efficient in limiting those activities to begin with on the 360.
The only important differentiators for single system buyers is the games available. Do they have the game(s) I want to play (and online with friends)
Storage is not a big deal and most new buyers wont even notice because the products will shortly fall of the shelf - which raises a more interesting question - will this actually end up happening or will Wal-Mart and the like leverage their ample weight against MS and cry foul because of now unsellable inventory?
For one thing - don't confuse dealers with manufacturers
What artifical means? They are modifying their privately developed and not-required to be standards compliant devices to not be compliant with standard devices. So the hell what? There is nothing artificial about it. I guess Sony is artifically disabling my ability to play 360 games on the Playstation - the monopolizing bastards.
the real question is do they send them around clockwise or counter-clockwise?
i thought the death squads will solve our midget problem....
the sheep don't care about any of their most important rights taken away - why would they fuss over this? they'll do whatever it takes to be able to keep watching american idol
in soviet russia, the boxes pay for....wait, that doesn't make any sense - damn this meme
'no remote 'loggers' when I spin a silver disc!'
not so fast: Wait till you upgrade to blu-ray. Don't think that it won't become mandatory to have that little baby wired as well, at which point it will be shooting data upstream also.
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_305BD5000/Samsung-BD-UP5000.html?tp=171&tab=detailed_info
LAN: The rear-panel Ethernet port gives you access to internet firmware updates. In addition, by connecting the BD-UP5000 to the internet, you may be able to access and enjoy additional content from your HD-DVD disc and download control programs for improved interactivity.
Lol - you know, I actually had a line about Babbage, but deleted it, figuring that there was no need to point out the distinction between what the op was referring to and what Babbage actually designed (but never created).
;)
I think the argument could be made that Bell was in America when the telephone was invented - not conceived.
Regarding the lightbulb - toss up in my opinion. Edison built the first functional working model. Again, the difference between concept and function.
Point taken on the auto's, so I'll submit to Benz, but one also has to look at the timeline / functionality of Selden and the Duryea's vs. the first model of Benz.
Actually, the Internet is the one on the list that I had the most doubt about because there was a lot of work in England as well, even though we mostly recognize ArpaNet as the Internet's birth. Thanks for the reminder to never count on my memory
Transparent GIF via GIMP + print to transparency?
"Children so stupid they think America invented the Internet, computer, motor car, light bulb, telephone etc ad infinitum...."
Hmmm.....America invented the:
Internet.....check
Computer.....check...holy crap...modern computing actually has it's roots in TEXAS of all places (see the integrated circuit)...so DOUBLE check
Motor Car....check again...lol - who would have thought, surely SOMETHING on this list was not invented by America
Light Bulb....check again, wow
Telephone.....and....wait for it.......check
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1012_051012_hornet_video.html
The only thing this video is missing is a tiny bee Wilhelm scream
Your options:
1. Hard Liquor
2. Pills
3. Step 1 followed by Step 2
4. Step in conjunction with Step 2
5. See Slashdot poll for today - make friends will billionaire space pilot - relocate to the moon. Die when oxygen runs out.
finally, Microsoft is taking it in the backdoor - about freaking time.
So, maybe they aren't disappearing at all - the telco's are having them eliminated so the free-netter's can't put the bees to this nefarious use.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070223-bees.html
btw - has anyone made a honeypot joke yet?
Correction:
"Everybody lies"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(TV_series)
No, it's a problem when the student feels like it is necessary to demonstrate in front of the entire class that he knows more than the teacher. "Knowing more in an area" is pretty vague. Do you really expect a flesh and blood teacher to have the sum of all human knowledge at their fingertips? "The stuff they use to teach the class" is also vague. Do you get pissed when the teacher can't turn the projector on? Heck, 75% of ./ is probably employed because of one word: SPECIALIZATION
It isn't the teacher's freaking job to know the difference between Firefox and IE (even if it is a computer class that is teaching ANYTHING other than
A. web development
B. The differences between Firefox and IE
Any other course than those two options and the teacher is perfectly fine in not knowing that anything other than IE exists because it DOESN'T MATTER. Were the other kids complaining: "Hey, this site won't render in IE - I'm getting X error"? The teacher has the right and obligation to be in complete control of their environment. The teacher was unfamiliar with Firefox and wanted to kid to close it. Maybe the teacher knew it shouldn't have been installed. Maybe the teacher knew that multiple tabs could aid in cheating or give some other unfair advantage the other kids didn't have being on (crappy) IE. Maybe the teacher knew that IT has Group Policy established that prevents kids from clearing browsing history and cache from IE, but that Firefox wouldn't be limited and wants to make sure that the kid isn't violating web use policy.
The fact is - the teacher told him to do something and he refused. Twice.
The kid was told to do something and back-talked. Was he right? Technically yes. But sorry dude - you are about to hit the real world. Someone in authority tells you to do something - you do it. Then, after class, you go the teacher and say - "may I show you what I was using and why?" Have a discussion, demonstrate that you weren't being disrespectful or devious and you won't have a problem.
Pretty sure WW is doing exactly what he wants to be doing with his life and making a living at it. Pretty good in my book.