. When I saw Cindy Shehan in Crawford calling our troops terrorists, I drove out there with 1000 other families and showed my disaproval of Cindy and my support for our troops and their families.
If you actually did support the troops, then you would be more upset that they were set up as terrorists by this administration. You would be pissed off that they were sent over their for an ivory tower intellectual scheme of world domination.
So, save it sparky. You don't give a flying fuck about the troops since you're obviously quite happy to see them disgraced by their CinC. If you did you'd actually do something to support them rather than supporting their exploiters.
Jesus Christ I fucking hate fuckwad lying sacks of shit like you.
Bah, taking things from the Bible out of context was the preferred argument of Christian fanatics throughout history. There are always some of those, but thankfully fewer nowadays.
Dude, no offense, but are you completely batshit fucking insane?!?
Their entire platform is that the founding principle of this country, Liberalism, is a great evil that must be stamped out. They are not talking about new fangled American liberalism. They are talking about "We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal".
Seriously, dude, try actually learning sometihng about the situation rather than whining like a little bitch about how poor little Rummie is being treated exactly as he asked to be.
You have a point on the rest of your post, but this is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Point me to one single "anti-America" story.
Anti-Bush is not anti-America. In absolute fact, anti-Bush *is* pro-America. Pro-Bush is utter disgust, contempt and hatred of America.
Seriously, you should get out of your mom's basement and take a look at what's actually going on. You might notice that this administration has committed numerous acts of treason and aggression against everything America is *supposed* to stand for.
. The effects of the moderation system mean that the majority has sucessfully silenced the minority and opposing opinions are no longer seriously considered. This comment will probably be modded into oblivion.
You, sir have proven yourself to be an idiotic moron. You either don't actually read the site at all or you're a lying sack of shit. In the first place, all points of view are modded up and all points of view are modded down.
Asshats like yourself who whine like little bitches about how you'll get moderated down often get moderated up. It's a typical karma whore tactic.
The reason that you see more people getting pissed off about this administration is the undeniable fact that they are cowards and they are traitors. Only fools or sociopaths could possibly support them at this point due to that simple fact that has been proven over and over again.
So, in conclusion, keep your moronic 24 hour propaganda lies to yourself.
There is no opportunity in the book for the reader, whatever their stripe, to sympathize with the Ingsoc regime.
I disagree.
O'Brien(?? it's been a while) is a party official. He has a nice house, nice stuff, and much more freedom than Winston. Did you read the fairly recent article (posted on/. even) discussing a study that showed that in general, people aren't so much concerned by any absolute sort of wealth, rather how they rank relative to their peers? I'd say that based on that, there is an opportunity for most people to sympathise with the regime. Looking at the current state of the world (China, Iran, Saudi etc etc etc) and all of human history, it's pretty obvious that there is most definately a stripe of person to which those ideas appeal greatly.
I really don't believe this police chief - or hardly anybody for that matter - would read 1984 and think that telescreens, thought police, Minitrue etc are a good thing,
Then you need to study history and human nature. Clearly there have been and are many people who think exactly that.
Consider the part where O'Brien himself likens their regime to a boot stamping on a human face forever. How is anybody going to react to that positively?
Quite obviously, it's their boot, not their face they're picturing. Seriously, did you think that they were thinking it was going to be their face?!?
In Seattle, there have been premeditated murders over the past thirty years by several members of the local county police. Do I trust anyone in the state police and county police? No way, dude!
Seriously, dude. I got the living shit beat out of me by SeattlePD including getting maced while I was already handcuffed face down bleeding from repeated MagLite blows to the head. I don't even think Seattle is particularly bad though. This shit happens all the time everywhere.
Okay, let me give you a little bit of advice: Never tell me my opinion is wrong. Opinions are not supposed to be classified as "right" or "wrong"; they're opinions and are to be classified as "opinionated".
So if I hold the opinion that the earth is flat then it's not wrong?!? Wow, you're way out there.
The fact that you just up and stated that my opinion...is absolutely wrong. Not morally wrong, but factually entirely incorrect... makes me harbor much disrespect for you and will prevent me from responding any further to any content authored by you.
That's too bad. Perhaps in the future you should state your opinions as such rather than claiming that your opinions are what counts for legality, ethics, culture and the rest of the tripe you spouted. Your opinions are *only* applicable to you. That means when you state them as applying to the whole world, you are wrong. Absolutely and totally.
[sarcasam]Thanks for making an assumption about me. I really appreciate it.[/sarcasam] I welcome anyone to disagree or challenge my opinion, or likewise state their own. However, I reiterate that I will not tolerate my opinion being labeled as wrong.
I made no assumptions about you whatsoever. You stated that directly. That is the problem with "opinions" that are statements of your morality applied to other people who are not you.
And in regards to my original post, I still stand by what I said. It is my opinion - my belief - and I maintain it: Prostitution is wrong.
That I have no problem with. That is an opinion. What you did before was claim that *your* baseless opinion was somehow the *one* in line with culture, ethics and the rest which is clearly nonsense.
Prostitution is wrong on many many levels, including various areas (if not all) of law, religion, ethics, and culture.
It is genearally illegal in the US. That has nothing whatsoever to do with right and wrong. Some religions don't like it, some do. Again, there is nothing in any way related to right or wrong. There is nothing whatsoever unethical in prostitution. Immoral? well, that depends entirely on *your* morals. Cultural?!? WTF? How could anything be "culturally wrong" unless you're in China or something?
If you disagree with me, fine. That's your choice. This is just my opinion and I needed to state it.
That's fine, but your "opinion" is absolutely wrong. Not morally wrong, but factually entirely incorrect.
You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. There's an association for "Sex Workers", and they have the gumption to claim discrimination? What bullshit.
Oh, I see. You think that you know what's right and anybody who disagrees is wrong and has no right to express their opinion. I hate to break it to you, but I'd say the average whore has better morals than you.
Sadly, it is all too common that a brush with the Devil leads to a selling of one's soul: Charlie Sheen = Hookers Robert Downey Jr. = Crack Daniel Robbins = ASP.NET
Now hold on a second. What (TF) exactly is wrong with crack and hookers?!?
The heart of the problem here isn't one flavor of superstition versus another, it's the willingness to deal with people as groups, and to follow the orders of leaders instead of applying one's own moral judgement.
Certainly. That's a nice, accurate, fairly complete, concise description which I agree with.
Fundamentalism is at the heart of this problem of whatever stripe. Expand that a bit to "blind adherence to any sort of absolute ideology" and there's the explanation for most of the rest of human history's rottenest episodes.
Don't confuse the best interests of the Iranian people with the best interests of the Iranian government.
Well, I wasn't doing that, but I did apparently miss (a large) part of your point.
There are some analysts who think that President Ahmadi-Nejad is semi-sane, and wants to bring about the "end times", preferably by nuking Isreal.
Does Islam have that too?
He would clearly benefit personally from a war in which hostilities were intiated by someone other than Iran. That would make him a very popular leader of a "just war", and cement his leadership for some time to come.
Regardless of what you think of the Iraq war, it's quite obvious that our military would completely dominate the Iranian military just like in Iraq. Does he fancy hiding out in a box in the desert or something? Presumably, if he gets a nuke, he could detonate it on his own soil and kill a lot of our troops which would certainly cause a change in our plans although I doubt it would be in a way that would help him or his country. I see your point now, I'm just not seeing his point if that's what he's doing. Of course, you did already call his sanity into question which would kind of make any rational discussion of his motives a bit pointless.
Of course, he could be in league with other elements to spread out our military capability I suppose...
Though I vehemently disagree with the current politicization of Christianity, to suggest the fundamental elements of the two are on par is just not rational.
I agree. The Christians are far worse. They just happen to control the largest arsenal in the world so their methods are different.
It's not much of a stretch to see the hand of the current Iranian government in these protests.
Given the motivation you stated, it would seem that Iran would be the *last* one to want to orchestrate anything of the sort at this time indicating either that somebody else's hand is the one pulling the strings or that I missed part of your point.
If we look at what people grumble about when it comes to Christians, the most we have is the various gay rights to get married, Intelligent Design debates, and so on.
There is much more to it though. The primary problem with the Christian fundamentalists in America is that they have gotten together as a large, angry, *very* well funded group whose stated purpose is the compete destruction of freedom in America to be replaced with a fundamentalist theocracy.
That is one of my primary *grumbles* and it is far more important and dangerous than the examples you gave. Never forget for one second that nothing short of the complete destruction of the great experiment will satisfy the American fundies.
While you're correct that every relgion has its extremists, why is it that Islam seems to have so many more "extremists," proportionally, than any other religion?
It doesn't. Far fewer in fact. It's just that they generally don't control first world armies, multinational corporations and other overpowering instruments of control. Extremists from other religions are free to make up a pack of lies in order to justify invading whole countries who have no hope of defending themselves.
So, you see, other religion's extremists are far louder, far more violent, and far more extreme. They just have far more power and control over the media so it's played like we were just innocently minding our own business when these vicious subhuman animals attacked us.
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. When I saw Cindy Shehan in Crawford calling our troops terrorists, I drove out there with 1000 other families and showed my disaproval of Cindy and my support for our troops and their families.
If you actually did support the troops, then you would be more upset that they were set up as terrorists by this administration. You would be pissed off that they were sent over their for an ivory tower intellectual scheme of world domination.
So, save it sparky. You don't give a flying fuck about the troops since you're obviously quite happy to see them disgraced by their CinC.
If you did you'd actually do something to support them rather than supporting their exploiters.
Jesus Christ I fucking hate fuckwad lying sacks of shit like you.
Get a spine, and get some integrity.
Bah, taking things from the Bible out of context was the preferred argument of Christian fanatics throughout history. There are always some of those, but thankfully fewer nowadays.
Dude, no offense, but are you completely batshit fucking insane?!?
It was a blatantly political hit piece, painting Rumsfeld and the administration in Gestapo-like terms.
Dude, have you been asleep for the past 6 years?!?!
They put themselves forward as Gestapo like from the very start.
Are you seriously that out of touch with reality!?!?
Seriously, wake the fuck up. If you support this administration then you are a traitor and you despise the principles upon which this country was founded. Cause it's for damn sure that the administration does.
Their entire platform is that the founding principle of this country, Liberalism, is a great evil that must be stamped out. They are not talking about new fangled American liberalism. They are talking about "We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal".
Seriously, dude, try actually learning sometihng about the situation rather than whining like a little bitch about how poor little Rummie is being treated exactly as he asked to be.
the apparent move towards anti-America stories
You have a point on the rest of your post, but this is one of the stupidest things I have ever read.
Point me to one single "anti-America" story.
Anti-Bush is not anti-America. In absolute fact, anti-Bush *is* pro-America.
Pro-Bush is utter disgust, contempt and hatred of America.
Seriously, you should get out of your mom's basement and take a look at what's actually going on. You might notice that this administration has committed numerous acts of treason and aggression against everything America is *supposed* to stand for.
Seriously, wake the fuck up.
. The effects of the moderation system mean that the majority has sucessfully silenced the minority and opposing opinions are no longer seriously considered. This comment will probably be modded into oblivion.
You, sir have proven yourself to be an idiotic moron.
You either don't actually read the site at all or you're a lying sack of shit. In the first place, all points of view are modded up and all points of view are modded down.
Asshats like yourself who whine like little bitches about how you'll get moderated down often get moderated up. It's a typical karma whore tactic.
The reason that you see more people getting pissed off about this administration is the undeniable fact that they are cowards and they are traitors.
Only fools or sociopaths could possibly support them at this point due to that simple fact that has been proven over and over again.
So, in conclusion, keep your moronic 24 hour propaganda lies to yourself.
There is no opportunity in the book for the reader, whatever their stripe, to sympathize with the Ingsoc regime.
/. even) discussing a study that showed that in general, people aren't so much concerned by any absolute sort of wealth, rather how they rank relative to their peers?
I disagree.
O'Brien(?? it's been a while) is a party official. He has a nice house, nice stuff, and much more freedom than Winston. Did you read the fairly recent article (posted on
I'd say that based on that, there is an opportunity for most people to sympathise with the regime.
Looking at the current state of the world (China, Iran, Saudi etc etc etc) and all of human history, it's pretty obvious that there is most definately a stripe of person to which those ideas appeal greatly.
I really don't believe this police chief - or hardly anybody for that matter - would read 1984 and think that telescreens, thought police, Minitrue etc are a good thing,
Then you need to study history and human nature. Clearly there have been and are many people who think exactly that.
Consider the part where O'Brien himself likens their regime to a boot stamping on a human face forever. How is anybody going to react to that positively?
Quite obviously, it's their boot, not their face they're picturing.
Seriously, did you think that they were thinking it was going to be their face?!?
But only if the right party (insert here) were in power they would do this correctly...
INSERT failed. Field "right party" does not exist.
In Seattle, there have been premeditated murders over the past thirty years by several members of the local county police. Do I trust anyone in the state police and county police? No way, dude!
Seriously, dude. I got the living shit beat out of me by SeattlePD including getting maced while I was already handcuffed face down bleeding from repeated MagLite blows to the head.
I don't even think Seattle is particularly bad though. This shit happens all the time everywhere.
I fuck my wife, and don't find the process embarassing at all.
;-)
Note the hilighted bit of your quote.
I'm sure you don't find it the least bit embarassing.
Now on the other hand, if you had to fuck his wife, that's a different story
Okay, let me give you a little bit of advice: Never tell me my opinion is wrong. Opinions are not supposed to be classified as "right" or "wrong"; they're opinions and are to be classified as "opinionated".
So if I hold the opinion that the earth is flat then it's not wrong?!?
Wow, you're way out there.
The fact that you just up and stated that my opinion
That's too bad. Perhaps in the future you should state your opinions as such rather than claiming that your opinions are what counts for legality, ethics, culture and the rest of the tripe you spouted. Your opinions are *only* applicable to you. That means when you state them as applying to the whole world, you are wrong. Absolutely and totally.
[sarcasam]Thanks for making an assumption about me. I really appreciate it.[/sarcasam] I welcome anyone to disagree or challenge my opinion, or likewise state their own. However, I reiterate that I will not tolerate my opinion being labeled as wrong.
I made no assumptions about you whatsoever. You stated that directly. That is the problem with "opinions" that are statements of your morality applied to other people who are not you.
And in regards to my original post, I still stand by what I said. It is my opinion - my belief - and I maintain it: Prostitution is wrong.
That I have no problem with. That is an opinion. What you did before was claim that *your* baseless opinion was somehow the *one* in line with culture, ethics and the rest which is clearly nonsense.
anyone that hotlinks images from my server to myspace gets goatse telling them to stop stealing bandwidth
Oh dear lord, he does voiceover work?!?
Prostitution is wrong on many many levels, including various areas (if not all) of law, religion, ethics, and culture.
It is genearally illegal in the US. That has nothing whatsoever to do with right and wrong.
Some religions don't like it, some do. Again, there is nothing in any way related to right or wrong.
There is nothing whatsoever unethical in prostitution. Immoral? well, that depends entirely on *your* morals.
Cultural?!? WTF? How could anything be "culturally wrong" unless you're in China or something?
If you disagree with me, fine. That's your choice. This is just my opinion and I needed to state it.
That's fine, but your "opinion" is absolutely wrong. Not morally wrong, but factually entirely incorrect.
You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. There's an association for "Sex Workers", and they have the gumption to claim discrimination? What bullshit.
Oh, I see. You think that you know what's right and anybody who disagrees is wrong and has no right to express their opinion.
I hate to break it to you, but I'd say the average whore has better morals than you.
In return, I will give you a number crunching program in Visule Basic. Unfortunately, the only number it crunches is '4' :-)
Do you have a copy in any linux compatible language?
I had no idea how freaking many 4's I have. This could really get to be a problem soon....
darby@gentoo_laptop ~ $ slocate 4 | wc -l
74714
Sadly, it is all too common that a brush with the Devil leads to a selling of one's soul:
Charlie Sheen = Hookers
Robert Downey Jr. = Crack
Daniel Robbins = ASP.NET
Now hold on a second.
What (TF) exactly is wrong with crack and hookers?!?
I can't decide on a capture card and finding a usable remote that's not insanely overpriced
;-)
;-)
I highly recommend the Hauppaugue PVR-350. Hardware MPEG encode and decode, comes with a remote that's supported by mythtv out of the box.
It's around $170 for card, remote, cables etc.
Supported perfectly.
Anyhow, that's what I run and what my parents and inlaws all run (Birthday presents from yours truly
XBox and HDTV, I can't help you on
When you skip an entire release, Microsoft's OS products are a lot more enticing :D
In general, sure, but if you were on 95, skipped 98 and landed on ME....you crapped out.
Free AIDS included?
We've really gone too far if you have to pay extra for that.
The heart of the problem here isn't one flavor of superstition versus another, it's the willingness to deal with people as groups, and to follow the orders of leaders instead of applying one's own moral judgement.
Certainly. That's a nice, accurate, fairly complete, concise description which I agree with.
Fundamentalism is at the heart of this problem of whatever stripe. Expand that a bit to "blind adherence to any sort of absolute ideology" and there's the explanation for most of the rest of human history's rottenest episodes.
What makes you think those people represent the neocon movement?!
The simple fact that it's their movement and they are the ones doing all the moving.
Look at what the people around you (in the real world) are saying!
Given that the basis of the movement is selling a great lie to the public, how would that be in any way relevant?
Don't confuse the best interests of the Iranian people with the best interests of the Iranian government.
Well, I wasn't doing that, but I did apparently miss (a large) part of your point.
There are some analysts who think that President Ahmadi-Nejad is semi-sane, and wants to bring about the "end times", preferably by nuking Isreal.
Does Islam have that too?
He would clearly benefit personally from a war in which hostilities were intiated by someone other than Iran. That would make him a very popular leader of a "just war", and cement his leadership for some time to come.
Regardless of what you think of the Iraq war, it's quite obvious that our military would completely dominate the Iranian military just like in Iraq. Does he fancy hiding out in a box in the desert or something? Presumably, if he gets a nuke, he could detonate it on his own soil and kill a lot of our troops which would certainly cause a change in our plans although I doubt it would be in a way that would help him or his country. I see your point now, I'm just not seeing his point if that's what he's doing.
Of course, you did already call his sanity into question which would kind of make any rational discussion of his motives a bit pointless.
Of course, he could be in league with other elements to spread out our military capability I suppose...
Though I vehemently disagree with the current politicization of Christianity, to suggest the fundamental elements of the two are on par is just not rational.
I agree. The Christians are far worse. They just happen to control the largest arsenal in the world so their methods are different.
It's not much of a stretch to see the hand of the current Iranian government in these protests.
Given the motivation you stated, it would seem that Iran would be the *last* one to want to orchestrate anything of the sort at this time indicating either that somebody else's hand is the one pulling the strings or that I missed part of your point.
If we look at what people grumble about when it comes to Christians, the most we have is the various gay rights to get married, Intelligent Design debates, and so on.
There is much more to it though. The primary problem with the Christian fundamentalists in America is that they have gotten together as a large, angry, *very* well funded group whose stated purpose is the compete destruction of freedom in America to be replaced with a fundamentalist theocracy.
That is one of my primary *grumbles* and it is far more important and dangerous than the examples you gave. Never forget for one second that nothing short of the complete destruction of the great experiment will satisfy the American fundies.
While you're correct that every relgion has its extremists, why is it that Islam seems to have so many more "extremists," proportionally, than any other religion?
It doesn't. Far fewer in fact.
It's just that they generally don't control first world armies, multinational corporations and other overpowering instruments of control. Extremists from other religions are free to make up a pack of lies in order to justify invading whole countries who have no hope of defending themselves.
So, you see, other religion's extremists are far louder, far more violent, and far more extreme. They just have far more power and control over the media so it's played like we were just innocently minding our own business when these vicious subhuman animals attacked us.