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MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users

Carl Bialik from the WSJ writes "'When News Corp. bought the social-networking Web site MySpace.com last July, the media company got two surprises, one good and one bad,' the Wall Street Journal reports. The good news: Traffic nearly doubled in the last half of last year. The bad news: MySpace is being criticized for exposing children to risqué content and sexual predators. In response, 'News Corp. plans to appoint a "safety czar" to oversee the site, launch an education campaign that may include letters to schools and public-service announcements to encourage children not to reveal their contact information."

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  1. MySpace PSAs? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    Good to see that another company has found a way to pass off advertising as "public service announcements."

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    1. Re:MySpace PSAs? by ThankfulJosh · · Score: 1

      Uhhh...somehow I don't think "Our website is bookmarked in every NAMBLA member's browser" is exactly going to be a PR coup.

    2. Re:MySpace PSAs? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OTOH, "we have realized that there is a problem and we will do your parenting for you" is very likely to be a PR coup. Since that's apparently what parents want, anyway.

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    3. Re:MySpace PSAs? by hiphophap · · Score: 0
      I saw the wsj article as well. it seems to me the article is trying to pass it off as a geocities. at least thats my thoughts. I think its going to be impossible to stop people from lying about their ages there, as its human nature to lie. I think the better thing to do is to monitor your kids online use (if you can).

      now if you want to see some cars racing on a race track: http://www.thunderbirdnest.com/pictures/thunderfev er/movies/incar.avi (its 20 mb so if you don't have a fast way to download it, don't bother)

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  2. Shoot. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    I guess it's back to trenchcoats, candy, and schoolyards for me.

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    1. Re:Shoot. by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just last week, I was sitting on a bench, in a hallway (talking on my cellphone) when a class let out.

      Some female teacher happened to be walking by at the same moment and she was holding a small bowl with some candy in it.

      She kinda waved it around and said "free candy, please take it, I don't want to have to eat it."

      Now, she had stopped almost exactly in front of me, but on the other side of the hall. It took all my willpower not to blurt out "My mother told me to never take candy from strangers."

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    2. Re:Shoot. by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All these sites could be dangerous. I have looked through MySpace to see if I could get any funny dirt on anyone (Yes, I found funny pics of a coworker in a skimpy outfit hitting a bong, but that's beside the point) With just a first name, approx. age and city, it is so easy to find out someone's address. But what gets even crazier, is that a lot of the profiles have where people work. So when someone says they work at XXXXXX Restaurant on weekends or whatever, it would be very easy to bump into them.
      My friend was on eharmony, and I showed her how easy it was to get people's info. I showed her how you could punch a first name, approx age and city into a site like intellius or zabasearch, and get a last name and an address. It freaked her out enough to where she dropped her subscription...
      I have always thought it would be fun to call a news station during sweeps month and offer to show a reporter how easy it is to get full names and addys from eharmony or yahoo personals etc... for free. You can get a whole lot more info if you are willing to use a paid background check service.
      Dont put anything on the internet you dont want others seeing....

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    3. Re:Shoot. by goodenoughnickname · · Score: 1

      I'm sticking to my Nintendo DS.

    4. Re:Shoot. by trparky · · Score: 1

      Which begs the question....are services offering anonymous domain name registration a good idea? Because a domain's WHOIS record is completely public and contains address info.

    5. Re:Shoot. by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1

      Hmm.. i'm interested in seeing those pictures of your coworker. Can you provide a link?

    6. Re:Shoot. by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1

      The article you linked to mentions chatting with other users on a popular Philadelphia wifi hotspot. I was under the impression that the DS pictochat only works with other DSes in the immediate vicinity and doesn't work with a wifi router (or 'hotspot' as people call them).

    7. Re:Shoot. by goodenoughnickname · · Score: 1

      You'd be right. That's why my comment was rated +5 Funn--wait, what the fuck?!

    8. Re:Shoot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something is severely wrong with the sense of humor around here tonight. How this got modded up so high is beyond me...

    9. Re:Shoot. by dustmite · · Score: 1

      It's Friday night, maybe some of the mods have been drinking :)

    10. Re:Shoot. by Lord+Flipper · · Score: 1

      Was that you?

    11. Re:Shoot. by irenetheno · · Score: 1

      I think most registrars do this, but I know that GoDaddy can "Make any domain private." I think this may involve turning ownership of the domain over to them, but I could be mistaken.

  3. responsible design by Douglas+Simmons · · Score: 1, Funny

    You know what pisses me off? Sites like myspace and stumbleupon that let users hotlink every image on your pr0n site, most often without citing the source. Bandwidth is expensive and this type of crap can push me into the red. It should be illegal.

    1. Re:responsible design by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know what pisses me off? Sites like myspace and stumbleupon that let users hotlink every image on your pr0n site, most often without citing the source. Bandwidth is expensive and this type of crap can push me into the red. It should be illegal.

      Then disable them from hotlinking via http.conf or .htaccess. There are plenty of resources to get information on how to stop it from happening. If you're going to have your site be public and running without hotlinking protection, then it's fair game.

      We don't need legislation when a simple google search and a copy/paste would solve your issues.

    2. Re:responsible design by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      Y'know, ironically enough, your suggestions fall under the subject heading of "responsible design." : p

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    3. Re:responsible design by lowrydr310 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      That's how myspace works. They don't host anything but your user profile (and your personal pictures). Everything else is linked.

      The biggest problem with myspace are all the users who think it's cool to customize your profile with all sorts of random useless crap like large background images, floating images, and ten video clips playing simultaneously.

    4. Re:responsible design by garcia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The biggest problem with myspace are all the users who think it's cool to customize your profile with all sorts of random useless crap like large background images, floating images, and ten video clips playing simultaneously.

      Well, now that geocities is basically dead, the lamers had to go somewhere, right?

    5. Re:responsible design by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      This surprises you how?

      How many people really think there are that many hot girls on MySpace?

      Solution: Setup a simple referrer check for your server. That will stop >90% of people in their tracks.

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    6. Re:responsible design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I highly recommend a good "goatse"ing for anything hotlinked if your web site architecture can handle the replacement without impacting your customers.

    7. Re:responsible design by grub · · Score: 2, Funny


      I recently changed how my site dishes out most pictures with PHP. Picture thieves (or those with broken referrers) get a nice view of goatse guy.

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    8. Re:responsible design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awesome idea, do something you could do in .htaccess in PHP instead, achieving the same result with several order of magnitude more CPU load!

    9. Re:responsible design by PFI_Optix · · Score: 5, Funny

      Reminds me of when a popular forum meme got hotlinked off the creator's server a while back. The myspace kiddies posted it and posted it and posted it, and he let it go for a week...then replaced it with a random image grab from a directory full of goatse-esque images.

      Suddenly myspace was flooded with them, mass bannings occurred, and we all had a great laugh.

      Myspace needs to get their own image hosting that automatically parses hotlinks and caches them on the server...it would save their idi...umm...novice users a lot of grief.

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    10. Re:responsible design by grub · · Score: 1

      PHP is way more flexible for verifying the referal information (ie.: did the actual page(s) with the picture request it or is it likely a domain spoofer (like RefControl for Firefox)

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    11. Re:responsible design by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      I recently changed how my site dishes out most pictures with PHP. Picture thieves (or those with broken referrers) get a nice view of goatse guy.

      SomethingAwful does that. Dear God, though. They don't use goatse. They have many, many things that are as bad as goatse, but that you haven't seen before - so you don't even have your jaded web veteran's defence mechanism of 'oh, how boring, another goatse'.

      I only ever hotlinked to SomethingAwful once. Never again. Uggggggghhhhhhhhhh....

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    12. Re:responsible design by Penguin+Programmer · · Score: 1

      Of course, the smart thing to do is just to use modrewrite to make all those hotlinks show up as goatse. Of course, it doesn't exactly help with the problem of exposing children to inappropriate content, but one for two ain't bad.

    13. Re:responsible design by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Strange. I got the impression that all the pr0n sites hotlink to each other. There's maybe only a couple sites in world that actually have anything and all the rest of pictures are perpetually floating around the net due to cache latency. Or so I've heard.

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    14. Re:responsible design by b1t+r0t · · Score: 1
      Then disable them from hotlinking via http.conf or .htaccess.

      That's way too polite. The BOFH solution is to have off-site references headers redirect to pictures that are "famous" on the internet, such as goatse-man.

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    15. Re:responsible design by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You don't have to be cruel, you could play with their paranoia like this one. (Note: It's clean, but that's a code generated jpg, so who knowns what Slashdot detection hooks are in there.)

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    16. Re:responsible design by Thomas+Miconi · · Score: 1

      Bandwidth is expensive and this type of crap can push me into the red.

      While obviously putting a link to your website in your /. sig will do wonders to your bandwidth consumption :D

      Thomas-

    17. Re:responsible design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Then disable them from hotlinking via http.conf or .htaccess.

      The problem with that is that these myspace users have absolutely no idea of what they did to set your image as their background image in the first place. So after they get a goatse background and do some confused screaming of "omg, I've been hacked!", they plaster over another layer of badly copy/pasted css until it "looks good" (for some incredibly demented value of good) - leaving the old background-image reference right there in their source, sucking up bandwidth forever...

      *idly wonders if all these microsoft image rendering vulnerabilities exist when the image is never actually rendered*

    18. Re:responsible design by Gunny101 · · Score: 1

      Use apache mod_rewrite to prevent sites you don't specify in your .htaccess to link your pictures (movies, etc..).

      Example of a .htaccess I setup for a friends site to display a (bad NSFW) picture in place of all other pictures when linked from other sites. He had a huge problem with this, and the result was very funny.

      Rewriteengine on
      RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
      RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.hostilism.com/.*$ [NC]
      RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://hostilism.com/.*$ [NC]
      RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://psforums.station.sony.com/.*$ [NC]
      RewriteCond %{http_REFERER} !^http://a-z/|[A-Z]|[0-9]|\.)*hostilism\.com/.*$ [NC]
      RewriteCond %{http_REFERER} !^http://a-z/|[A-Z]|[0-9]|\.)*dogsonacid\.com/.*$ [NC]
      RewriteCond %{http_REFERER} !^http://a-z/|[A-Z]|[0-9]|\.)*crewcial\.org/.*$ [NC]
      RewriteRule .*\.(jpg|jpeg|gif|bmp|png)$ http://www.gunny.org/s/gunnypoo2.jpg [R,L]

    19. Re:responsible design by mrjackson2000 · · Score: 1

      anyone that hotlinks images from my server to myspace gets goatse telling them to stop stealing bandwidth

    20. Re:responsible design by damsa · · Score: 1

      Best pron fruitcake analogy ever.

    21. Re:responsible design by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Apropos nothing, my myspace URL is http://www.myspace.com/is_the_new_geocities.

      Well, I thought it was clever at the time. At the time I didn't realize I wasn't the only one making the association, though I probably heard it from somebody else.

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    22. Re:responsible design by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      I once had a page on Geocities back in 1994 or so that was complete with tags!

      Once they progressed to the point where they were littered with ads and silly javascript overlays, I made it a point not to ever visit any geocities page.

    23. Re:responsible design by dustmite · · Score: 1

      Excellent site, btw --- thx! You paying for the bw? Very generous of you!

    24. Re:responsible design by Darby · · Score: 1

      anyone that hotlinks images from my server to myspace gets goatse telling them to stop stealing bandwidth

      Oh dear lord, he does voiceover work?!?

  4. Parents by Dak_Peoples · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Parents need to keep an eye on their kids. Here is an analogy. One would not let them run free through a big city with out a watchful eye. Besides, all the teeny myspace bopers know exactly what they are doing. Generation gap is in effect.

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    1. Re:Parents by PFI_Optix · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Problem is those teens don't have a clue what they're risking. Kids, girls especially, think attention equals respect, and "OMG U R SO BEUTIFULLLLLLLL" is good enough for them. So they do whatever gets them attention, and on the internet the best way for a girl to get attention is to be a cyberslut.

      Kids think it'll never happen to them. Kidnapping, rape, murder...no matter how many times it happens to people who do the exact same things they do, kids tell themselves that it can't happen to them because they're smarter than that. They're in control. They don't understand that they are completely out of control, and they don't grasp the concept of consequences.

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    2. Re:Parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      on the internet the best way for a girl to get attention is to be a cyberslut


      Well, that goes for boys too.

    3. Re:Parents by PFI_Optix · · Score: 1

      Nah. Trolling, boasting, and shenanigans get boys attention just as well.

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    4. Re:Parents by Xyleene · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When I was a teenager I was pretty average but I had good, smart parents that taught me these things at a very young age. The thing is that this can happen to anyone, anywhere, regardless of the internet. When I was very young we had many discussions about this type of thing. We had secret passwords if a friend was going to pick me up at school and so on. By time I was seven I got the jist of it. THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE OUT THERE! and I acted accordingly. Am I a special case? No, I was seven. Mabey good parenting is the special case....

      At a very young age give your kids the upbringing to make their own informed decisions and they won't dissapoint you.

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    5. Re:Parents by dr_dank · · Score: 2, Funny

      Kidnapping, rape, murder...no matter how many times it happens to people who do the exact same things they do,

      and if Lifetime Original Movies are to be believed, those kidnappings, rapes, and/or murders are likely to be carried out by Judd Nelson.

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    6. Re:Parents by Funkcikle · · Score: 2, Funny
      THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE OUT THERE!

      Ironically, running News Corp. But won't someone think of the children and the poetry they MUST publish? Insert trillions of anime-ish emoticons here showing the sadness.

    7. Re:Parents by russellh · · Score: 1

      Parents need to keep an eye on their kids.

      Indeed... but what you really want to say is: parents need to be able to talk to their kids and their kids need to feel that they can tell their parents anything. (almost anything). Keeping an eye on kids is virtually impossible by the time they are teens. The only way a parent can know what the kids are doing is if the kids feel free to tell their parents and that they will be treated with respect whether they did right or wrong. Open communication is the only way. It starts from the beginning and I have to say it is one of the hardest things to do in this world. I'm sure there are some kids who need to be given commands with dire consequences for crossing the line, but for mine the worst thing that can happen is for them to clam up. I need them to tell me what they're thinking about, what they're doing, etc. They only way they will is if I'm receptive so we can talk about what's happening and then both agree on what's right and what's wrong. That is how I know they will develop understanding, empathy, and good judgement - which are the most important things.

      The problem is so many people today seem deeply selfish and without much empathy; they do not know how to treat other people including their kids in ways that get the results they want. it has little to do with whether they keep an eye on their kids or not.

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    8. Re:Parents by chris_mahan · · Score: 1

      You wants your kids to tell you their problems? You tell them your problems. You level with them as adults and they'll see that you're real. If you shield them, they see you as a "perfect" person and say nothing "bad", and then later they are disillusioned (let's face it you're not perfect) and treat you like dirt.

      My stepdad always treated me liek an intelligent human being, and I have the highest respect for him. And I had respect for him too.

      But that was in France, where people aren't afraid to show their frailty.

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    9. Re:Parents by chris_mahan · · Score: 1

      And I had respect for him too.

      should read:

      And I had respect for him when I was still living at home.

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    10. Re:Parents by Ed_Pinkley · · Score: 1

      When the web was first getting popular, I had several people ask if their kids should be online. Maybe they should get a computer for the kid's room?

      My answer was by (long) analogy: You know those bubble cages that allow your pet hamster to walk around the house without getting stepped on / eaten by the cat? Imagine your child is in a large version of that. It's large enough to protect them but small enough to allow them to get through a door. (I know, I know. Average door is 3 feet, it's a sphere. Use your imagination, ok?) The kid is perfectly safe but they can talk to anyone and they can exchange pictures and / or letters with anyone through a slot. Not bad, right? You can drop them off at a fine museum in New York and they can spend the day enriching their mind.

      Now imagine the child walks outside and over to a high crime area. S/he can go inside strip clubs, adult bookstores, drug dens or what ever. Perhaps they can witness a mugging or a murder. Perhaps they can meet a stranger and give them their address.

      If you are ok with that, you should have no problem with them getting on the internet by themselves.

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  5. This just in... by PFI_Optix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Websites that let children meet random people on the internet are being used by pedophiles.

    Oh, wait...this was talked about almost ten years ago.

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  6. MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Funny

    Step 1. Banning any and all use of the color Pink
    Step 2. Deleting all profiles that use the word "like" more than twice
    Step 3. DeLeTiNg AlL PrOfIlEs ThAt LoOk LiKe ThIs
    Step 4. Making MySpace safe from internet predators
    Step 6. Profit!

    And yes, I want it done in that goddamn order.

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    1. Re:MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users by LoRdTAW · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Step 6. Ban any and all use of music and video that automatically loads and plays.

    2. Re:MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users by hunterx11 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Step 5 really is ???, because I have no idea how they're going to profit after they kick out all of their users with steps 1-4.

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    3. Re:MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2, Funny
      Step 2. Deleting all profiles that use the word "like" more than twice

      You mean, profiles like: "I like programming very much, esp. with languages like Lisp and Scheme"?
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    4. Re:MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users by Firewalker_Midnights · · Score: 1

      " Step 2. Deleting all profiles that use the word "like" more than twice

      You mean, profiles like: "I like programming very much, esp. with languages like Lisp and Scheme"?"


      Silly, MySpace users don't know how to use programming languages.

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    5. Re:MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Well, they could just close the service. AFAICT that would only affect users with profiles like that.

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    6. Re:MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Thanks, now I don't feel so bad any more for not knowing anything about MySpace ;-)

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    7. Re:MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users by tarth · · Score: 2, Funny

      Especially the site administrators...

      Sorry! An unexpected error has occurred.

      This error has been forwarded to MySpace's technical group.

    8. Re:MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean, profiles like: "I like programming very much, esp. with languages like Lisp and Scheme"? Or, you could just say, "I enjoy programming very much, especially with the languages Lisp and Scheme." It's fun being an adult. ;-)

    9. Re:MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      The first step should be banning noscroll backgrounds and background music.

    10. Re:MySpace To Be Made Safer For Users by soapthgr8 · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I don't know Scheme.

  7. What it is with this Administration and Czars? by ReidMaynard · · Score: 1

    What's next? Overlords?

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    1. Re:What it is with this Administration and Czars? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

      What's next? Overlords?

      Well, at least they'll be welcomed.

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    2. Re:What it is with this Administration and Czars? by vertinox · · Score: 4, Funny

      What it is with this Administration and Czars?

      Well the runners up were:

      Lord Safety
      Prince Safety
      King Safety
      Emperor of Safety
      Der Safety Fuer
      Il Safety Duce
      People's Chairman of Safety
      Premiere Safety
      President Safety for Life

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    3. Re:What it is with this Administration and Czars? by Locke03 · · Score: 1

      Personally I would have prefered "High Overlord Safety, Master of all Myspace Content"

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    4. Re:What it is with this Administration and Czars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other rejected titles:
      - Tsarina of Safety
      - Grand Boyar of Safety
      - Archduchess of Safety
      - Khan of Khans of Safety
      - Marquesa of Safety
      - Sultan of Safety (my favorite)

      Group titles rejected because focus groups thought they sounded too "soft":
      - Committee For Public Safety (Republican France)
      - Committee of Governmental Safety (KGB)
      - Central Safety Office (RSHA over Gestapo)
      - Council for Safety (Serbia)
      - Ministry for State Security (Stasi)

  8. new url by solidtransient · · Score: 2, Funny

    so... mysafespacewherenobadpeoplewillgetme.com then?

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  9. Good Candidate for Safety Czar by Billosaur · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dick Cheney

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    1. Re:Good Candidate for Safety Czar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YES! I would love to see some of these predators get blown away with a shotgun blast to the head!

    2. Re:Good Candidate for Safety Czar by tpgp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      hahahahaha!

      It's about time the Steve Ballmer chair throwing /. cliche was replaced. And just in the nick of time, the emperor goes and saves us from tedious repetition.

      Everyone pull together, if you find yourself writing "Steve Ballmer leaned towards the chair, hefted it and....", replace it with "Dick Cheney cocked his shotgun, downed a couple of beers and...."

      We can make this cliche work.

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    3. Re:Good Candidate for Safety Czar by mogwai7 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Looks like he already is:

      http://www.myspace.com/safetyczar

  10. double edged sword by slackaddict · · Score: 1

    I have mixed feelings about MySpace... As a father of a little girl, I don't want censorship but I also don't want her to be exposing herself and revealing personal information that could be used against her by predators. Of course, I could block myspace.com at my firewall but this doesn't stop her from accessing it at her friend's houses. Basically my thoughts on the subject have come down to this: there's really no redeeming qualities about myspace and so much to be abused.

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    1. Re:double edged sword by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      Friendster had a nice setup where your profile could only be viewed by your friends. You could do a search for a name and try to add someone as your friend, but you'll only be able to access their profile once they approve you as a friend.

      I don't think myspace has this option. I don't have any kids, but I have a niece who just turned 12 and is starting to use myspace because her friends use it. I informed my sister-in-law about all the things that are happening and talked to my niece about being careful who she talks to. I even helped her clean up her profile by getting rid of too much personal information. She's young, but she's smart enough to know only to talk to her friends.

      The problem is when you have parents who don't know anything about comptuers or the internet in general and are very naieve about what their kids do online. I think as long as parents are educated about the risks, then everything should be OK.

    2. Re:double edged sword by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, myspace does have the option to lock your profile down so it can only be viewed by friends.

    3. Re:double edged sword by blue_adept · · Score: 1

      For a site with "no redeeming qualities" it sure is popular.

      What you probably mean is, it has no redeeming qualities FOR YOU. But then again, neither do teen idols, glam magazines, and scratch-and-sniff stickers.

      The real question whether the risk of an internet predator outweighs the enjoyment factor. IMO it's a real, but overblown threat... a smaller risk than, say, letting your kid walk to school.

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    4. Re:double edged sword by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      scratch-and-sniff stickers = best invention evar!

    5. Re:double edged sword by HAKdragon · · Score: 1

      myspace has the option of making a profile "friends only", though only a couple of people use that option.

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    6. Re:double edged sword by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 1

      I have mixed feelings about MySpace... As a father of a little girl, I don't want censorship but I also don't want her to be exposing herself and revealing personal information that could be used against her by predators. Of course, I could block myspace.com at my firewall but this doesn't stop her from accessing it at her friend's houses. Basically my thoughts on the subject have come down to this: there's really no redeeming qualities about myspace and so much to be abused.

      First off. You are not your daughter.

      Second. Raise her properly.

      Third. Tough shit. She's going to experience the world no matter how much you hate the thought of it. Someday, she'll be doing things you probably will never be able to accept fully.

      I dont mean to disrespect you or your daughter. Its a matter of perspective. From your perspective, she's your baby. Your blood, the continuation of your life. She is part you. But shes also her. Shes a new person, and she will go on to live life as you have. Often making mistakes and doing things that like all of us do, eventually teach us lessons.

      Its not easy to accept the idea of guys hitting on your daughter. We're guys... we know how we think right? Its not quite something you want to even imagine in realation to your own daughter. Beleive me i know.

      But lifes going to happen no matter what we do.

      The big question is, do we try to throw the raines on life and hold it back as hard as we can. Its wasted effort because no matter how hard you pull, the horse is going to get away from you.

      Life is timeless, its something we're swimming in. We're not controlling it in a glass container. We're the ones traveling through it with many others.

      So do we change life itself, freedoms... do we clamp down on the enjoyment of others because a murder, a sex offender, a jay walker... may just fullfill their role?

      We cant live in a world like that.

      Freedom is the best thing we have because ultimately, laws, rules, dictatorships, harsh imprisonments, nazi like militaristic organizations of society... these controlling systems that attempt to fix a problem... ultimately crush freedom. The murders will still take place, the sex offender will still rape, and the jay walker... he'll be beaten to death and tortured under the law as punishment.

      Who do we protect? all of us, or the chance that one of us will fall victom.

      I think thats what the meaning of sad is. tragic is a word for a reason. We can not create a world were we are not able to socialize like the humans we are.

      There is just as much of a chance as a kidnapper being otuside your daughters school, as there is on myspace.

      think about it.

      Both are gathering places for children.

      Shall we put armed soldiers outside of schools? Shall a child only be picked up by their parent or someone with proper security credentials?

      What extent to we go to?

      We're computer guys and i think we as humans realize that the universal truth is that there is no security in life. There's only risk.

    7. Re:double edged sword by ocbwilg · · Score: 1

      I have mixed feelings about MySpace... As a father of a little girl, I don't want censorship but I also don't want her to be exposing herself and revealing personal information that could be used against her by predators. Of course, I could block myspace.com at my firewall but this doesn't stop her from accessing it at her friend's houses. Basically my thoughts on the subject have come down to this: there's really no redeeming qualities about myspace and so much to be abused.

      I empathize with your situation, however, I think that you're going about it all wrong. You are looking for a technological solution for a (potential) social problem. That's a pretty common mistake among us techies (and even more common amoung non-techies), but if you take that approach then you will never get a solution that works (even with censorship). If Myspace is nerfed, people will simply gravitate to other services that are not as restrictive. Myspace will become uncool, and your kids will want to go to whatever the "cool new site" is.

      What you need is a social solution. That means educating our children about the dangers of exposing personal information on the Internet. Teach them now while they are young so that it stays with them for the rest of their lives. Help them develop good habits for using web services. This will require supervision. You'll still need to monitor what web sites your child visits, and if they put up a Myspace or similar page you will need to review it periodically to make sure that your child is staying within the boundaries that you set, and enforce those boundaries.

      No, it will not be easy or convenient. But it will probably be far more effective and less intrusive than technological alternatives.

    8. Re:double edged sword by slackaddict · · Score: 1
      Shall a child only be picked up by their parent or someone with proper security credentials?

      Yes. Day cares and some schools already have the requirement that you have to show ID or be on the "approved list" of people who are allowed to pick up your kid.

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    9. Re:double edged sword by vertinox · · Score: 1

      As a father of a little girl, I don't want censorship but I also don't want her to be exposing herself and revealing personal information that could be used against her by predators.

      I can see your concern, but perhaps it is better to have a sit down talk with her about Internet and shady people. Not just Peds and stalkers, but that people are not always generally nice and sometimes have evil intentions. You know like Scammer and Phisers and even high school boyfriends who won't call after they've taken advantage of her.

      The world is filled with bad people and not just Myspace.

      Chances are if you block Myspace and get her friends parents to do so as well, it will only lead to a false sense of security. Learning to be careful now and having her gain a sense of a situational awareness will not only be useful when she is young but later in life if she faces a problematic or dangerous situation. Unfortunatley, I have no good advice on how to go about doing this other than maybe to look up reading on child saftey and strangers.

      Chances are she'll just as likley be assualted or taken advantage of walk down the street, at school, or at the mall than she will be by someone she meets on myspace. It requires an education rather than ivory tower protectionism.

      Remember, the girl that was murdered by the person she met on Myspace was age 27.

      Hardly a girl at all.

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    10. Re:double edged sword by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 1

      I'm talking about jr high/highscool. Day care is a little different. I'm not sure thats the myspace audience, and it should never be.

    11. Re:double edged sword by PastAustin · · Score: 0
      I'm talking about jr high/highscool. Day care is a little different. I'm not sure thats the myspace audience, and it should never be.



      Hey Jimmy.
      You left your blue race car and your big yellow fire truck at my house. I'm going to get my diaper changed but I'll have my cell phone on me. I know it says online now but Tom said that the online now code isn't working and will be down for an unknown amount of time, so don't try to use their instant messenger. -- it also does not work. He also just posted that login will be down so I guess you won't get this message for a while. Well. W/b.
      Malorie.


      My opinion is teach your kids to take care of themselves and you don't have to worry. There is nothing wrong with having a myspace profile. There's also nothing wrong with it being wide open. The real threat here is getting involved with someone online. I would claim that thing that needs to be avoided is posting your school / work / phone / etc on myspace but really... That info is out there so easily..

      Replace XXX with Lastname,+City,+State

      http://www.google.com/search?sa=X&oi=fwp&pb=f&q=XX X

      Someone sent my girlfriend a text message a while ago who neither of us knew. He gave her his first and last name. Using that I found his address, school, phone, family members, parents are divorced, recently moved. Using Google. Oh yeah and he's 12.

      Also social engineering hasn't even been taken into account here...
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    12. Re:double edged sword by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1
      There is just as much of a chance as a kidnapper being otuside your daughters school, as there is on myspace.
      And if you can eliminate one of those sources of risk, you've reduced the overall risk. Of course, it's possible that she'll meet good people on myspace that she'll learn positive things from, but I think there's better networking sites (like friendster) for teens to participate in.
    13. Re:double edged sword by mongus · · Score: 2, Informative
      I've got a daughter who will be 15 next month. We had a problem with her spending WAY too much time on myspace. She was neglecting her homework and her grades were dropping fast. Most of the time she said she was doing homework on the computer she was actually on myspace.

      I didn't see anything positive about myspace and lots of negatives. I run my own DNS server at home so simply adding an entry for myspace.com quickly fixed the problem.

      She was pretty upset when myspace didn't work anymore but has only complained once or twice. Her grades have jumped back from Ds and Fs to As and Bs and her attitude is much better now.

      BTW, I installed Dan's Guardian before I shut off myspace completely and it blocked probably half of the pages she tried to go to on myspace due to offensive language. I'm not talking about your standard teenager swearing, I mean pretty raunchy stuff.

    14. Re:double edged sword by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Understand that by mentioning any of this, you're opening yourself up to the armchair quarterbacking of thousands of geeks, most of whom have never raised anything more complicated than a goldfish.

      Including me.

      There should be no such thing as offensive language. That would imply that the words and the order in which they are strung together somehow carry more power than the ideas the combination of words conveys. The idea that a simple utteration--a mere string of syllables--should have some inherent moral value is magical thinking to me. This is why it's so hard to get a small child to stop saying the "naughty" word he's just learned: it's a power word, one which causes strange and unmistakable reactions in adults. Ultimately, the value of any communication is in the idea being conveyed, and I don't see how any current filter can make that sort of judgment.

      Having said that, I wouldn't mind seeing a few examples of this "offensive language" you wanted to protect your daughter from. URLs to myspace accounts will suffice. If half of the sites were being blocked, and you seem to generally agree with the filter's criteria, it shouldn't take you long to find examples.

      Now, I may be jumping to conclusions, but it doesn't sound like you actually sat down with your daughter, explained that you were worried about all the time she was spending on myspace, and explained that you were blocking her access. If you blocked the site behind her back, without explaining anything, it shows a worrisome lack of trust between you two. For any given parenting decision, I generally see "lying to your kid" as the wrong choice.

      Finally, you don't need to run your own DNS server to do this. Windows and Linux both have a 'hosts' file that could be tweaked.

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    15. Re:double edged sword by pebs · · Score: 1

      myspace has the option of making a profile "friends only", though only a couple of people use that option.

      The only way to do this is to set your age to 15. If you know another way, please let me know, I'd like to make my profile private.

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    16. Re:double edged sword by mongus · · Score: 1
      I've known WAY too many geeks to take most of their views on family life seriously ;-). I'm actually surprised how many slashdotters do have kids.

      While there are some that believe that language cannot be offensive the majority of the population does find some language to be offensive. Otherwise we wouldn't have any restrictions on what can be aired on TV and movies couldn't carry an R rating due to language. I don't think its the syllables that are the problem. It's the strong emotions that are attached to them. If someone needs to resort to using words for their shock value that makes me question the validity of their argument.

      Most of the sites she would visit are viewable only by people on their friends list. Others have cancelled or been deleted. Here's a few examples of pages that were blocked. The content of each page seems to change frequently so you never know what will be on them.

      Here's one and another and another and another here's a winner or how about this one. All of these are from the filter's log files from October and November of last year for my 14 year old daughter.

      We did sit down and talk to her about the excessive amount of time she was wasting on myspace before I blocked it. The problem was that she would claim to be doing her homework on the computer but actually be on myspace. Her grades went from As and Bs to Ds and Fs.

      The one that finally led me to block it completely was when she wouldn't go to an activity with the rest of the family because she had too much homework but five minutes after we left she was on myspace for about three hours while we were gone.

      In no way did I lie to her. I shut it down and when she asked about it I explained why.

      I run my own DNS server at home because I do web development at home and I've got 8 computers that I don't feel like updating individually.

  11. forget about being safe, just work correctly by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1

    Nevermind trying to be safe. Myspace should make some upgrades so their site is accessible. If you try to go there during the evening, it's very slow and sometimes their site malfunctions.

    1. Re:forget about being safe, just work correctly by ImaNihilist · · Score: 1

      Good. No one should ever be going to MySpace anyway. If I win the PowerBall tomorrow I'm starting a campaign to destroy MySpace.

    2. Re:forget about being safe, just work correctly by Eddy+Da+KillaBee · · Score: 1

      AFAIK, their servers are running Windows 2000. I don't recall Win2k ever handling a huge load like that, especially when a bunch of people are hitting it after they get home from school/work/whatever...

    3. Re:forget about being safe, just work correctly by skiman1979 · · Score: 1

      SOMETIMES myspace malfunctions?! I'm always getting errors on one part of the site or another. Often times the error message doesn't even match what you are doing. There are days where I can click on any link on any page in the entire myspace.com domain and I will get a "user's profile is undergoing special maintenance" error. Doesn't mean I clicked on a profile, but I get the error nonetheless. Then there's the ever so famous "sorry an unexpected error occurred. Myspace tech group has been notified" error. I'd say they could use some upgrades.

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    4. Re:forget about being safe, just work correctly by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Microsoft.com and hotmail run just fine.

      And yes FreeBSD is no longer used on most hotmail servers and teh login servers are run on w2k3.

      If Myspace is too incompetant to use an inferior OS then Tom should be fired for not chosing Solaris or some other technology.

      Myspace is owned by Murdock which owns Fox News. He has billions. So the budget is not the problem but rather incompetance.

      Its sad when %99.99 reliability was once the norm and a %99.97 was considered fireable a few years ago, when myspace has a %40 reliablity.

    5. Re:forget about being safe, just work correctly by jZnat · · Score: 1

      Microsoft knows how to use its own software; other people don't. That's an obvious problem that should be addressed sometime in the near future...

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  12. What do you mean exposing children to predators? by PrimeWaveZ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Have you seen Myspace? It's the 13 year old whorish girls who are talking about their sex lives and their 13 year old boyfriends who want to be pimps who are the dangerous ones on Myspace. That situation makes it a magnet for sex predators, but Myspace seems to be the catalyst for self-destruction as well as a forum for sex predators to find easy (and willing) targets

  13. the world isnt that ugly by bl4h · · Score: 3, Insightful

    way to make the world seem uglier than it really is i dont believe this is as big of a problem as made seem millions of contacts and conversations going on via the internet/myspace everyday without problem. Most human males are true perverts. we just have boundries that we choose not to cross. A small majority lack control of themselves

    1. Re:the world isnt that ugly by frostoftheblack · · Score: 1

      Yes, agreed. Except what is a small majority?

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    2. Re:the world isnt that ugly by ocbwilg · · Score: 1

      way to make the world seem uglier than it really is i dont believe this is as big of a problem as made seem millions of contacts and conversations going on via the internet/myspace everyday without problem/

      There was this interesting experiment done recently that had a "demo" available on the web about human perception. Basically, they were experimenting on the effects of graphic images on human perception. The demo showed a slide show of neutral images, displaying each image for around a second. Then somewhere in the sequence were two images shown back to back. The first was a picture of a severed arm or something similar, and the second was a picture of a tower that was rotated 90 degrees to the left or right, so that the building was on it's side. Almost none of the people in the experiment could tell which way the picture of the building was rotated. In fact, most of them never even "saw" the picture of the building.

      They were actually able to determine that an image can be so shocking that you are actually temporarily "blinded" to the mundane. I think that something like this happens on a larger level. The "13 year old whorish girls" stand out on Myspace because they are (relatively) shocking. Nobody remembers the 2 million 13 year old girls who post about how they hate their math class because it is mundane. Everyone remembers the one story of an abduction, but doesn't think twice about the 46 million stories about people on Myspace who weren't abducted that day.

      Most human males are true perverts.

      Yeah, I agree 100%. Just don't tell my wife.

  14. Good thing by Tweekster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that sexual predators are not in the offline world and only on webites... oh wait. they exist there. Is it that difficult to tell kids to not give out private info. (yes myspace can contain some info, but largely that is gonna be pretty useless, you have to actually talk to the person to get anything) Children are not exposed to predators through myspace, they are already exposed everyday. Is it that difficult for parents to practice a little bit of, oh i dont know, PARENTING. Maybe if your kid isnt smart enough to not give out info to everyone they meet online, they shouldnt be allowed online.

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    1. Re:Good thing by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      True that. It would be completely within reason to review your child's myspace page and find out a little bit about their contacts. In fact, it would be pretty much negligent to not do so, in addition to talking to them about the dangers that exist and what information is not acceptable for them to post on their page. Of course, you're going to find someone who signed their guestbook using profanity or inuendo and have to figure out how much you want your kid conversing with them, but you'll encounter that elsewhere, too. Really, it would be prudent to make sure the internet is only one part of their social life. If they don't get out and interact with people directly, before you know they'll be surfing worse sites (I'm talking about Slashdot).

  15. Yes, I'm sure it's much safer now... by martinultima · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ...especially considering that I just deleted the account I never even signed up for in the first place. I hate those stupid sites. Besides, everyone knows that the only real site for all things Martin Ultima is http://ultima-inet.kicks-ass.org/~multima. So there!

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  16. The dangers are real by TechnoGuyRob · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While it may seem silly, the dangers explained in the article are reality. Myspace has 56 million users. With all of the personal information I have seen on profiles, it is only expectable that it is misused someday.

    A few months ago, a friend of a student at my school experienced a horrible ordeal. Her best friend was murdered and raped by an assaulter who had obtained her personal information from her "Facebook" (another popular--mainly among college students--online community service).

    Either way, I find it absurd how much people disclose on their profiles. I won't post any links, but people have their addresses, home phone numbers, and--the perfect appetizer for an attacker--half-dressed pictures. I don't know about you, but that smells like trouble to me.

    1. Re:The dangers are real by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      Girls and guys I know call Facebook: Stalkerbook

      And you're right, people are fscking stupid for posting their home/cellphone numbers, their class list, their drunken pics and a million other bits of information that have turned Facebook into a disaster waiting to happen.

      In Facebook's defense, you can limit the people who see your profile to friend's only.

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    2. Re:The dangers are real by JaffaKREE · · Score: 1

      This is really on-target. These 18 year old girls will put things like "I work weekends at Target in Conshohocken, PA". That's ALL it takes. Every interested lunatic now has a picture and a place of employment, which is a half-step from home address.

    3. Re:The dangers are real by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Facebook isn't anywhere nearly as hazardous as myspace.

      For starters, the only people who can view your profile are those who go to your school or you have explicitly listed as a friend. You can also choose to restrict access to your profile even further to people at your school you have listed as friends, etc.... Facebook takes it a step further by customizing who can see what. Rigt now, anybody can see my picture, musical tastes, and other generic information -- only friends can see anything personal beyond that (phone numbers, screen names, email addresses, etc.)

      Likewise, facebook has a basic user-authentication scheme that prevents you from registering unless you have a university email account. It's not completely foolproof, but works well enough to block out virtually all online predators.

      In the case of the student you mention, this means that the girl was either 'friends' with the assailant, or he went to the same school. In either case, that leaves him with plenty of other information sources to find her personal information.

      I go to a tiny liberal arts college. Everybody knows everybody as it is. Anything on my facebook could easily be figured out from other public information sources (Campus Phonebook, etc...). In a large (20,000+) university, I could see that privacy might be an issue, but here, it simply isn't.

      Likewise, facebook is a tad 'cleaner' than myspace by preventing users from using any sort of markup (HTML,CSS,Javascript, etc.) in their profiles.

      Comparing facebook to myspace is like comparing apples to oranges. Anyone trying to stalk on facebook is wasting their time. Facebook is for networking with people you know (innocuous). Myspace is for meeting new people you've never met (sketch)

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    4. Re:The dangers are real by masdog · · Score: 1

      Its amazing how many stupid people there are on Facebook. I've seen some rather attractive girls post their addresses and phone numbers for everyone at the school to see. I've seen student-athletes and Fraternity members who are under the drinking age post pictures of themselves drinking alcohol by the gallons.

      Not only can this stuff effect a future job, but it can also get disciplined by the school. I'm surprised that none of the athletes have been suspended from their team for having those pictures on their profile.

    5. Re:The dangers are real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well maybe they'll learn when they get raped. Personally, I think these kids are outrageously stupid for giving their personal information to Rupert Murdoch. The fact that they're also handing out their info to a world of sexual predators...I hadn't even gotten that far!

    6. Re:The dangers are real by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      This is really on-target. These 18 year old girls will put things like "I work weekends at Target in Conshohocken, PA". That's ALL it takes. Every interested lunatic now has a picture and a place of employment, which is a half-step from home address.

      It's lovely how we've created a society where everybody is defenseless and thus has to live life in fear and partial hiding just to avoid getting raped in a parking lot after work.

      This can't be the optimal solution.

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  17. You let your little girl watch porn? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    At your house? You let her watch porn at her friends?

    Children should be supervised. Period. and if they're not then you should take whatever steps are necessary, including preventing access to friends who are a poor influence, you're the responsible adult after all.

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    1. Re:You let your little girl watch porn? by slackaddict · · Score: 1

      you're absolutely right. responsible supervision is the correct way to handle the situation.

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    2. Re:You let your little girl watch porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what? Fuck you guys. I sure as hell know I wanted to see porn when I was a little kid.

    3. Re:You let your little girl watch porn? by Helios1182 · · Score: 1

      Exactly. My parents always knew the parents of my friends at that age. They knew what went on, and it was their responsibility to do so.

  18. Pure PR by TheCoders · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously, what is a "safety czar" going to accomplish, other than blanketing parents with FUD? The only benefit I can see to this is that it will bring the issue of 'net safety to the forefront again, though the merits of that are questionable, considering the amount of hype these "internet stalkers" get on the local news anyway.

    Parents, listen up! Do not let the safety czar be in charge deciding what's right for your kids. The only people who should be making those type of decisions are you, the parents. Think about it: the czar has hundreds of thousands of sites to monitor; you have one (per kid). It's a much easier job for you.

    1. Re:Pure PR by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      Before you get modded up too far.

      Did it ever occur to you that the Safety Czar's job might be to get good information into the hands of parents abd schools so that the educators can do their jobs properly?

      There is always going to be a certain amount of FUD flying around any issue, if for no other reason than a small (and by small I mean large) group of Relegious Asshats are running around screaming [X] is the devil and will make you go blind.

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    2. Re:Pure PR by wealthychef · · Score: 1
      Did it ever occur to you that the Safety Czar's job might be to get good information into the hands of parents abd schools so that the educators can do their jobs properly?

      Sure, there's no danger of something like child protection on the Internet becoming politicized, especially under a conservative "faith-based" administration that is SO careful and thoughtful with the facts. No way this Csar will end up circulating hysterical "faith-based information," screaming about the need for Internet "control of perverts," thus curtailing important free speech in the name of protecting little Sally from goatse man. Pardon my sarcasm, but really, I believe we need to choose freedom over security on this one without a doubt.

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  19. Links??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where are these teen amateurs porn star ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H students you speak of?

  20. Daily Show Clip by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's a hysterical clip from the Daily Show about this very topic. Wait for the punch line at the end.

    1. Re:Daily Show Clip by jonoid · · Score: 1

      Here is the link to the original Google video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4698898666 405139932&q=daily+show+social+networking

      I find I get much smoother video playback with the download.
    2. Re:Daily Show Clip by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 2

      I'll paraphrase it for people who don't want to click.

      On the downside, these social networking sites are filled with sexual predators. On the more positive side, these social networking sites are also filled with sexual prey.

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    3. Re:Daily Show Clip by jonoid · · Score: 1

      Meh, I didn't notice that the URL I provided is accessible by clicking the orange "This works much better than the Comedy Central site" text directly above the video. Why would they link THAT text to the Google Video page? I think a simple "Link to original Google Video" would be effective.

    4. Re:Daily Show Clip by johansalk · · Score: 1

      What's hysterial about it? I watched the whole episode and I found this clip very unfunny and quite annoying, particularly this Demetri Martin guy. It stood out as too stylised, and he stood out as too self-indulgent and self-advertising, whoring. For example, I don't care that he can play the acoustic guitar. I don't care about his self-portraits. I don't care about getting to know his mother or grandmother. I found him incredibly annoying, perhaps the worst clip I ever saw on the daily show, and I'm a big daily show fan.

  21. How annoying by Skythe · · Score: 0

    Users can prevent people seeing their profiles. Users can prevent people from being 'their friend'. If a parent is that concerned about their child's wellbeing from 'sexual predators', then why not just ask that they make their profile only viewable to their friends? Anyone who is stupid enough to disclose their address and phone number to a complete stranger is a dork.

  22. Maybe they can't learn by MikeRT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was 12 in 1995 when the Internet started becoming semi-mainstream. My family has had real access since about that time. We knew back then that you don't go revealing information online unless you're in a position to defend yourself. Now that I'm a man, I can handle some of my information being availible online where others can see it. I just took it as a given that there were bad people out there looking for victims. These kids don't.

    Maybe they can't learn the danger. I've had girls argue that they realistically should be able to dress like strippers, go anywhere and not even get cat calls. Sorry, but as much as I'd like to live in such a peaceful world, you cannot do that and be safe. You have to live with the realization that there are evil people out there who are quite willing to hurt you and yours. You have to live like you live in a world with both great good and beauty and great evil and ugliness.

    I think that the idealized vision of childhood that many parents have has contributed to these kids not understanding what is going on. The girls in particular are almost totally incapable of understanding that that 25 year old who wants to have a "heart-to-heart" conversation with a 15 year old is probably just trying to get some. They're special, the other girls aren't. I for one will disabuse any daughter of mine of this princess complex.

    Until parents raise their kids to become adults capable of living in a world where evil people exist and desire to screw over everyone else, no one will learn, and at this point I don't care. It's like the people who still get sued by the RIAA for copyright infringement. You knew the danger, you did it anyway. MySpace isn't the problem, the teens and their parents are the problems. Maybe if parents would stop thinking about the kids and **DO** something about the kids, they'd be safe and more mature. As always, it's easier to do nothing, complain and foist the problem onto others. It's your computer, your teen, your problem.

    1. Re:Maybe they can't learn by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I've had girls argue that they realistically should be able to dress like strippers, go anywhere and not even get cat calls. Sorry, but as much as I'd like to live in such a peaceful world, you cannot do that and be safe.

      Not only that, but if you dress in a way designed to provoke a reaction, you had best expect one. It doesn't excuse the cat calls, and it sure as hell doesn't excuse anything more, but anyone who wants to dress like a hooker and doesn't expect to be treated like one is a fucking moron. That includes little girls. They don't know the full repercussions of what they're doing (leading men on) but they SURE as hell know they're going to get a reaction. That's why they dress that way.

      I think that the idealized vision of childhood that many parents have has contributed to these kids not understanding what is going on. The girls in particular are almost totally incapable of understanding that that 25 year old who wants to have a "heart-to-heart" conversation with a 15 year old is probably just trying to get some. They're special, the other girls aren't. I for one will disabuse any daughter of mine of this princess complex.

      I think that the real problem is that the "civilized" world looks so safe. I mean, around here (Lake County, CA, USA) there's nine jillion cops driving around at all times (last I looked, we had the most cops per capita of anywhere in the US, but that was a few years back) and you're sitting on this picturesque lake... well, when the algae's not blooming. But anyway. Look a little closer, and you can see that this is one of the Methamphetamine capitals of the USA. Check the lake county sheriff webpage and you can see an endless string of bookings every day - and the population of this county is between jack and shit.

      If we put more grisly pictures on the news more often, maybe kids would relate to it. Television seems to be the only thing raising most children anyway.

      MySpace isn't the problem, the teens and their parents are the problems.

      That's pretty much always the case, though, except when we're talking about life in the ghetto or something. People are not taking responsibility for raising their children. It would be better to live on a commune someplace and wear rope sandals and eat only what you can grow, than to park your kid in front of the TV and the school and the day care and...

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    2. Re:Maybe they can't learn by Jester99 · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but if you dress in a way designed to provoke a reaction, you had best expect one. It doesn't excuse the cat calls, and it sure as hell doesn't excuse anything more, but anyone who wants to dress like a hooker and doesn't expect to be treated like one is a fucking moron.

      Dave Chapelle said it best: "If you dress like a stripper, no, that doesn't actually make you a stripper... But you do have to realize, you are wearing a stripper's uniform, which is damned confusing to us guys."

    3. Re:Maybe they can't learn by kent_eh · · Score: 1

      Maybe they can't learn the danger. I've had girls argue that they realistically should be able to dress like strippers, go anywhere and not even get cat calls.
      I remember in a Spider Robinson book (Night Of Power, IIRC), a bodyguard was admonishing his young female client for "why you gotta make my job so hard" by asking her "would you walk around in Central Park with hundred dollar bills hanging out of all of your pockets? Well, by dressing like that, you're doing the same thing."

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    4. Re:Maybe they can't learn by rkanodia · · Score: 1

      I get the same problem; every time I wear my Raiders jersey, people treat me like a pro football player!

    5. Re:Maybe they can't learn by skiman1979 · · Score: 1

      I agree. Myspace itself isn't the problem. ANY site can be abused. If the site lets minors on, there will be predators looking to find them. I suppose next we'll blame the malls for how children act in them?

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    6. Re:Maybe they can't learn by JimBobJoe · · Score: 1

      The girls in particular are almost totally incapable of understanding that that 25 year old who wants to have a "heart-to-heart" conversation with a 15 year old is probably just trying to get some.

      I believe this to be a myth.

      25 year olds chasing around 15 year olds are likely not "all" about the sex. After all, it's extremely difficult, relatively speaking, to get sex from 15 year olds (who have such things as parents, curfews, conservative sleep schedules, school, their own virginity and likely a conservative view on it...et cetera.)

      Whereas a 19-21 year old has no curfew, likely drinks like a fish, has no parents to worry about, has a less conservative view about sex, and that's a a short list of reasons why it's a lot easier to get sex from them than a 15 year old.

      Any 25 year old seeking a 15 year old for easy sex is a straight up moron. I don't believe they exist, and haven't seen a lick of evidence to suggest they do (relationships that you see in the newspaper about adults and under 16 year olds tend to be well-developed and complex.)

  23. No reason for worry. by reverendslappy · · Score: 1

    The site is so slow and half the fucking features broken so often that it's practically impossible for regular users to find people, let alone predators. Seriously, I'm embarrassed for the folks that run that thing... It seems to me that the same 13 year-olds that make up the majority of the user base are also the ones responsible for maintaining the site. You'd think with as much cash as they probably have on hand now they'd be able to get their act together.

    1. Re:No reason for worry. by straightcash · · Score: 1

      They don't have to. The kids won't ever leave the site no matter how shitty it is. It has also been suggested that the site is difficult to use and still remains so to get experienced users comfortable and to keep them tied down to their interface. I've gone through my friends myspace user interface and it is amazingly non-intuitive.

  24. Here's a radical concept..... by 8127972 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    .... How about partents take some responsiblity for what their kids surf?

    Nah. Won't work. Too much effort on their part.

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    1. Re:Here's a radical concept..... by cheinz · · Score: 2, Informative

      The problem is slightly more complex than you obviously understand. I filter Internet access at home, and my daughter has been explicitly banned from myspace.com for the exact reasons everyone has been ranting about. She was lying about her age so she could talk to her friends online and meet new people. She was starting to get to know some people who were older and had expectations of behavior from her. Once I implemented a very strict Internet filtering at the house, she just logs on from the schools library. At least at home I was able to monitor all of her activities, but the other facilities that provide Internet access lack either the capability or desire to restrict sites. The problem is that the youth of this country actually think they have control of their lives. They don't understand that dangerous people are out there, and they don't have the ability to fend for themselves. My daughter is starting to figure this out, but it took the rape of one of her friends to finally start to get it. I would also like to point out that this is not a new trend. We had it in our youth too. Every one of us, at one point, thought we were invincible and nothing bad could happen to us. Every person I know has felt like they were in control of their lives at some point. It's just more dangerous now, as evil people have access to newer, better resources. Just my .02

    2. Re:Here's a radical concept..... by JWtW · · Score: 1

      The problem really isn't that complex. I grew up basically in charge of my life from the age of 12 (not just thinking--I had to be), and while it broadened my 'scope' somewhat, it also had detrimental effects. I never went to college, barely graduated high school, and went into the military due to a lack of options. It has served me well, don't get me wrong, but it was at the cost of tuition to the school of hard knocks. I feel I could have been so much more at this point in life. But, I'm digressing too much.

      I've also had friends a the other end of the spectrum. They were locked down tightly, and they only managed to become extremely crafty in their 'ways'. They were my worst influences.

      I think the obvious answer is balance. It's much harder now that the local hangout is the entire world--literally--but I feel that comunication, understanding, and basic knowledge of the world your child is living in goes a long way to protecting them, no, helping them recognize the hurtful things in life. I've lamented about this in previous posts, but it has gotten all too acceptable to turn our kids over to society at a very young age (i.e. daycare, school with no one at home when they got there...).

      Talk to them. Know where they are, but don't be a jerk about it. Be a friend, but still be in charge. Be a friend to their friends, but still be in charge. Check your own self once in a while to make sure you're consistent.

      You will never control the ether. You will never control the little individual you've created. However, you can be a part of it. Teach it, and embrace it.....

  25. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On a less dangerous, but still serious note-
    Myspace needs a discalimer that says "this site may be hazardous to your career"
    There is a rash of mid twenties people on there, and they post risque pics and comments. And guess what, someone in your office, has checked out myspace looking for people from work. And although you may act professional and dress conservatively at work, those pics from myspace with you in your short skirt and hitting a bong will get passed around the office. And right or wrong, it will change people's perceptions of you....

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  26. Misleading title by British · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I read the article title, I thought it was going to be made safer from a technical viewpoint. A little too much freedom is given in page design, resulting in the ultimate stress test for loading images in a single page in FireFox, over-decoration of a web page to the point of unreadability(how do you get a 50% pixel covering OVER an entire web page?), and the possibilities of trojans,etc.

    What myspace needs(besides bandwidth) is a "safe mode" where it uses the default CSS layout.

  27. I tried... by mangus_angus · · Score: 1

    Myspace for a while,but between the millions of teenagers whineing about how their life sucks and no one understand them, and the 40 year old men pretending to be teenagers who's life sucks and nobody understands them, I couldn't ever seem to logon with out some sort of error.

  28. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by GreekPimpSlap · · Score: 0

    so i take it you've seen my profile

  29. What will he prevent? by Milio · · Score: 5, Funny

    So if the Drug Czar works to prevent drug use, and the Terrorism Czar works to prevent terrorism, what does the Safety Czar work to prevent?

    1. Re:What will he prevent? by harshmanrob · · Score: 0

      Nothing...all of these "czars" are there just to make people feel all warm and fuzzy just before they get the crap knocked out of them. For example: War on Drugs: more drugs War on Illiteracy: higher drop out rates, lowest test scores in the 1st world War on Poverty: more people unemployed during Bush II than any other time in US history War on Terrorism: Likely the end of US as we know it. Every "war on" anything has proven to do two things: increase taxes on the average person and never acutally achieve any of the goals of "war on" sets out to do. Not to mention US foreign policy (since Nixon created the War on Drugs), more people have been killed than by Cancer and Heart Disease combined since numbers were recorded. The coming censorship and likely jailing of those on Myspace once again shows a "do as I say, not as I do" political system.

    2. Re:What will he prevent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even worse, the Freedom Czar.

    3. Re:What will he prevent? by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      Lawsuits against News Corp.

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  30. MySpace will not be popular for long... by harshmanrob · · Score: 0

    For some odd reason, the neocons like to impose morals and values on the common people, while exempting themselves of course. With all of the pr()n, filth, hookups and what not at MySpace, that will likely get stopped and membership will drop like a rock. Looks like a new vacuum has started to form and someone will need to fill it with a MySpace-replacement.

    1. Re:MySpace will not be popular for long... by Liquorman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      That "odd 0reason" you mention is the vote of the religious right, which was the key to Bush's victory in the last election.

  31. Does that include stopping MySpace Spyware ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  32. Perhaps I'm missing something.... by Stalus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Last I checked, MySpace isn't supposed to be open to those under the age of 18... which is why all of the 13 year olds on there have a profile that says that they're 23. Those under 18 are ineligible to sign up. Perhaps these letters to parents should mention that their children are lying about their age in the first place to sign in, instead of implying the MySpace isn't protecting their children.

    1. Re:Perhaps I'm missing something.... by frostoftheblack · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's 14, not 18. # Eligibility. Membership in the Service is void where prohibited. By using the Website and the Service, you represent and warrant that all registration information you submit is truthful and accurate and that you agree to maintain the accuracy of such information. You further represent and warrant that you are 14 years of age or older and that your use of the MySpace.com shall not violate any applicable law or regulation. Your profile may be deleted without warning, if it is found that you are misrepresenting your age. Your Membership is solely for your personal use, and you shall not authorize others to use your account, including your profile or email address. You are solely responsible for all Content published or displayed through your account, including any email messages, and for your interactions with other members.

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    2. Re:Perhaps I'm missing something.... by AsnFkr · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think 13 year olds can legitimately sign up, but their accounts are marked as "private" (only people on their friends list can view the full profile) until they are 15.

    3. Re:Perhaps I'm missing something.... by darkmonkeh · · Score: 1

      The rules state they should be over 14, however they do lie. Although you got the ages wrong, you make a good point.

    4. Re:Perhaps I'm missing something.... by Stalus · · Score: 1

      Ah.. ok. I just assumed with all of the teens with profiles saying they were in their 20s that the cutoff was 18. Thanks for the correction.

    5. Re:Perhaps I'm missing something.... by cfulmer · · Score: 1

      If myspace actually were limited to those over 18, it would have what, maybe 10% of the subscribers it has now? Most of their growth is from people who aren't supposed to be there. Myspace is successful because kids lie about their ages.

      There's a good analogy here to bars and alcohol -- if you're 13 and go to a bar, you can't just lie to the bouncer, say that you're 23 and expect to get in.

      Myspace has created a web site that is very attractive for kids. They benefit from the large number of kids who lie about their ages. They accept the answer to the "how old are you" question at face value. Are you claiming that they have no responsibility to those kids? "Well, they're lying, so we have no responsibility?"

      You cannot reasonably expect 13-year-olds to have developed the same judgment and sense of morality that a 25-year-old has. So, we shift partial responsibility for kids to the adults who deal with them -- that's why selling cigarettes and alcohol to minors is a crime and why there's a special crime called "statutory rape".

      Sure, parents need to deal with this, but MySpace needs to be more responsible as well.

    6. Re:Perhaps I'm missing something.... by milkmood · · Score: 1

      It was changed to 14 sometime last year. I don't let my kids lie to get what they want, so they were not allowed to use it until they turned 14, at which time, their mother and I control their access to it, at least until they're 16.

      Over the line? Too friggin' bad. Some will appreciate it some won't. We do what we have to to raise our kids right.

    7. Re:Perhaps I'm missing something.... by Mrcowcow · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is 14, not 18. However, your profile cannot be viewed by anyone other than your friends unlles you are 16 or over. So thats why everyone's profile says they are 16 or 17 years old.

    8. Re:Perhaps I'm missing something.... by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      You should also mention that profiles for those under 16 are restricted, so in some ways the cutoff age is 16. There are some kids clearly underage that lie in order to have a page. Others lie in order to have unrestricted pages, while some kids 16 and old lie in order to have their page restricted.

    9. Re:Perhaps I'm missing something.... by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      How should they do this, by forcing users to click "ENTER" to certify that they are of age? MySpace does the same thing that porn sites do. If that's not good enough then there's a larger problem than just mySpace.

    10. Re:Perhaps I'm missing something.... by cfulmer · · Score: 1

      Well, there's no doubt that there's a bigger problem than just myspace. Any system that relies on minors accurately reporting their age is seriously flawed. But, I don't think that the argument "well, porn sites do it, so it must be ok" will get very far. Talk about adopting the lowest common demoninator.

  33. Re:This is what happens when a Corporation buys... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every american should take a picture of themselves jerking off or fucking someone, something, anything... and post it to myspace as a public protest on one weekend.
    I am afraid that if these pics were posted, it would lead to a lot more jerking off, which would lead to lost productivity as well as a possible shortage of KY Jelly and Jerkins, and unfortunately also petroleum based products such as Vaseline.

  34. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by cmorriss · · Score: 1

    That's exactly the point of creating a safety czar and starting an advertising campaign. The "13 year old whorish girls" don't realize what they are getting in to and they need to be made aware of it.

    While it's true that some will continue, others will see that what they're doing may be dangerous and at least clean up the personal information from their page.

    This can also be very helpful to parents who don't realize the consequences of what their children are doing.

    I don't think you can fault myspace for this. They're just trying to improve their site and Profit!

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  35. "Czar" has a double meaning by gurutechanimal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The term "czar" has a special place in the lexicon of politics, both corporate and government. Whenever there's a situation that has no fix (or no fix that can be reasonably attained), the powers-that-be appoint a czar to oversee the situation.

    For example, in the US govt there are appointed Drug Czars, Immigration Czars, Energy Czars, Education Czars, and a whole bunch of Czar's who oversee areas of policy that are not really meant to be improved, but still need to be shown as something that is being addressed and taken care of. Appointed Czar's usually have no power, very little budget, and are all show, appointed for the purpose of silencing and placating critics. The Czars don't actually have to "fix" anything, since the areas of policy that they're "put in charge of" are literally beyond fixing. They just have to show up to work and fight the good fight; in this way, the powers-that-be can say that they're doing something about the problem, while not actually having to allocate any significant resources to fix anything.

    So, when MySpace (or any other company or organization) appoints a Czar to make everyone safer, take it with a grain of salt. Czar is code word for "fuck off, critics, you're in the way of higher profit and/or control over our subjects".

    Just my $0.02

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    1. Re:"Czar" has a double meaning by robertjw · · Score: 1

      So, when MySpace (or any other company or organization) appoints a Czar to make everyone safer, take it with a grain of salt.

      Exactly. NewsCorp and Rupert Murdoch are not stupid. They bought MySpace to make money and that money comes from the 13 and 14 year old kids. They aren't going to do anything that will make it difficult for those kids to access the site.

    2. Re:"Czar" has a double meaning by Lazy+Reader · · Score: 1

      So when someone is appointed to oversee p2p sharing will they be the kazaa czar?

  36. News Corp. by StikyPad · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    News Corp. holdings:

    • The New York Post
    • FOX News
    • MySpace

    Nuff said.
  37. The dangers are real EVERYWHERE. by absurdist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Life is NOT, repeat, NOT safe. No matter how much you may try to child-proof it. People die. It's inevitable. Some die peacefully in their sleep, some die horrible bloody violent deaths. It's all a crapshoot. Throw incredible stupidity into the mix, and you have the human condition. It exists on the net, and anywhere and everywhere else you have people.

    And BTW, your FOAF story reeks of bullshit to me.

    1. Re:The dangers are real EVERYWHERE. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So you just get done saying that every part of life is dangerous, and then you say you don't believe that something horrible happened to someone? Make up your fucking mind.

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    2. Re:The dangers are real EVERYWHERE. by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1

      There's no contradiction. It's perfectly possible to believe that lots of bad things happen, and still smell the sweet odor of urban legend on a particular "A friend of one of my students' best friends" story. If I admit that people sometimes hire dangerously irresponsible babysitters, am I expected to buy that one story about the stoned babysitter cooking a baby in the oven? I hope not.

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  38. MySpace is a disease. by ImaNihilist · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    They should stop the "MySpace problem" at it roots: delete MySpace.

  39. Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Hey, dipshit! Yeah, you, Mr. Safety Czar.

    How about you start telling parents to raise their own freaking kids properly instead of pushing this crap off on the rest of us?

    Personally, I don't give half a pitcher of warm spit about Myspace or the people who frequent it. Seems to me, though, that the problem of 13 year old girls either turning into emo train wrecks because it's 'cool' or flying to zimbabwe to meet sexual predators could be much more easily uprooted at the source.

    That is, the 13 year old teenage girls.

  40. Yes, all true, but... by C10H14N2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ..."think of the children" is the tiredest mantra for controlling everything and anything.

    They're looking for the thrill. Kids are reckless. The kids that get in trouble on the internet are the same ones that would get in trouble at the mall or wherever. If they end up as drug-addicted sex slaves because of some chatroom troll, they'd probably end up there anyway with some dude they met at the local foodcourt. People don't like admitting that because it implies they're bad parents, so they run off and try to sterilize the entire world--and won't do a damned bit of good because it's a moving target. Teenagers are in it for the thrill. Remove it and both they and the predators will move somewhere else. Education is the only answer and, sadly, no matter how much you try to protect the children and control the adults that prey on them, many will still get into trouble.

  41. There's a case about this RIGHT NOW in Honolulu by Shag · · Score: 2, Informative

    The mom and stepdad of a 14-year-old boy were, um, not amused to see a 30-year-old guy their son had met on MySpace. At 11:30 PM. In their son's bed. And he'd brought a gay porn DVD and 2 gay porn magazines with him, how thoughtful. Of course, since Hawaii raised its age of consent from 14 to 16 a few years back, said 30-year-old is now in deep shit, and will probably stay so for a "nui loa" time.

    Linkage:

    Police arrest man found in teen's bed, Honolulu Star-Bulletin
    Man Accused Of Luring Teen On MySpace.com, KITV-4
    Man accused of using internet website to meet teen, KHON-2
    Hawaii Too Soft On Online Predators?, KGMB-9
    Man, 30, indicted in sex assault on teen, Honolulu Advertiser

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    1. Re:There's a case about this RIGHT NOW in Honolulu by ocbwilg · · Score: 0

      Colasacco is accused of communicating with the boy through the Internet on three separate dates, starting on Jan. 14 when he allegedly met the boy at a movie theater and fondled him.

      He also met with the boy again on Feb. 8 through the computer and gave him pornographic materials, the indictment said.

      On Sunday, he again communicated with the boy through the computer and gave him two magazines and a DVD showing naked men and sex acts, according to the indictment and a police affidavit.

      From the article it sounds like he originally met the kid at the movies, and then moved to communicating online. So is the whole Myspace part just added hysteria? Before the days of Myspace how do you think this man would have communicated with the kid? Telephone? Meet him in other semi-public places?

    2. Re:There's a case about this RIGHT NOW in Honolulu by Shag · · Score: 1

      I think they've worded it really poorly, and meant to say that he is accused of using the internet to set up meetings with the boy at least three times.

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    3. Re:There's a case about this RIGHT NOW in Honolulu by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I think they've worded it really poorly, and meant to say that he is accused of using the internet to set up meetings with the boy at least three times.

      Is that a crime now? Using the Internet to setup a meeting with a teenager?

      By all means hang him in the public square by his nuts for a day before carting him off to jail for having gay sex with an underaged boy, but punish the crime, not anything that you can ascribe 'Internet' to for PR.

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    4. Re:There's a case about this RIGHT NOW in Honolulu by Shag · · Score: 1

      Is that a crime now? Using the Internet to setup a meeting with a teenager?

      I haven't checked the Hawaii Revised Statutes, but it's entirely possible that it would be something that isn't the crime itself, but gets you in more trouble. Like conspiracy is. Whether it's a crime would tend to vary by jurisdiction, I'm sure.

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  42. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 1

    13 year old girl acting like a whore...

    and you call the guy whos attracted to them a predator?

    Take the notion of age out of it.

    She could be sucking cock after school more than you could imagine....

    Whos wrong?

    The guy shes flirting with?

    Is it the guys fault for being tempted by a sexually active girl?

    (again take age out of it)

    Now put age into it.

    I'm not sure we'll ever figure this out, but lets not act as if our teens are so innocent.

    They are having sex, drinking, smoking, flirting, you name it.

    Chances are they're enjoying themselves too.

    I dont think they're as innocent as we make them out to be when we talk publically aobut them on tv.

    We're too ashamed to recognize that we were once children and did similar things.

    I think the issues are more complex than we tend to admit.

    FOX corp sure as hell aint going to fix it. And i wouldnt want to live in a world where they fix it for us.

    No thank you. We're a free nation, not a corporate run puritan nation.. (oh wait.. sorry we are)

  43. Re:This is what happens when a Corporation buys... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Do you have a surplus of

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    tags that you're trying to get rid of?

  44. How is this localized to myspace? by makoffee · · Score: 1

    I stand by the statement that children shouldn't use the internet unsupervised. At least then you can add some perspective the first time they're exposed to "fisting" videos.

    And kids be sure to delete your history and temporary internet files!

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  45. Oblig by erkokite · · Score: 1

    In Pre-Soviet Myspace Czar watches YOU!

  46. But can they keep it safe from Edison? by bopo · · Score: 1

    This is totally off topic, I know, but Warren Ellis rocks my world.

    Edison Hate Future.

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    1. Re:But can they keep it safe from Edison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Warren Ellis [post-]rocks my world"

      Mine too. I was just listening to Ocean Songs the other day. I didn't know until now that he has a comic-writing alternate personality.

  47. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by a803redman · · Score: 1

    AOL chant rooms in 1994 were way more scary! Anyway Myspace is our fault, we are the kind of people who have enabled it, built the tech that makes it possible and yes even some of us visit. I think it all goes back to paying attention to what our kids do, teach them not to be sluts. Teach them that its not all about easy, immediate pleasure. That the best things are worked for. We have have to lead by example. Or get a fake account and spy on them. either way. myspace.com/803redman Its my real account.

  48. hmm... by oPless · · Score: 1

    and here I was thinking they were going to have a preferences panel to stop all the activex and flash shit that crashes camino.

    I hate having umpteen videos and mp3s and a dozen flash movies start all at once!

    Not to mention 1995 wanting their webdesigns back

    *sigh*

    1. Re:hmm... by zoloto · · Score: 1

      I use pith helmet with safari (there are other ways to do this in ff/ie etc)
      There is an option to disable all plugins. pdf (should ALWAYS be off anyways), audio, video, java scripting (not even my bank uses that!) and flash (disabled ONLY when I go to HSR)

      YMMV

    2. Re:hmm... by oPless · · Score: 1

      Alas safari seems to be corrupt on my machine, and camino's free, and standards compliant - I also found that camitools has a nice interface to override CSS on a per site basis, so there is the potential there for something similar to greasemonkey on FF.

      Well I'm happy with it :o)

  49. How is this MySpace's problem...? by norman619 · · Score: 1

    Sorry but I fail to see how this is MySpace's problem. It's just the cybersapce equiv of any mall/playground/park. When a child get's approached by a perv in any of those locations do we plame the owners for any harm that comes to the child? Nope. Why? Because it's crazy to expect anyone to be aware of the activities of evryone on the property. It's even crazier when you think of the number of users on myspace comapred to the number of people in parks and/or malls at any given time. When will people stop pushing the respocibility of the parent off on to others? The owners of MySpace should place some kind of password validation to help protect themselves from the lawsuits of parents not willing to accept their parental resp. It's not very hard to make sure your kids aren't browsing to places you don't want them to in your own home. What they do outside of the home is beyond your control. This is nothing new. AOL has long been known as a pedophile haven for many many many years. I remember when damn near all the pedophiles busted were using AOL to chat with their intended target. MySPace is just today's scapegoat. I'm gonna be a father soon and am as worried as anyone else about how to protect my kids from unsavory people. But I do not expect others to do my job for me.

  50. Completely useless! by socalmk · · Score: 1

    A "safety czar?" Another empty promise aimed to enable bad parents to keep not doing their job and sleep better at night. How can they possibly attempt to police Myspace? Either they won't and nothing will change or it will become too restrictive and kids will just start going elsewhere; and then the predators will follow.

  51. Michael Brown is your man! by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Not only did he do a heckuva job during Katrina, but I hear he's looking for work.

    -Eric

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  52. MySpace bit me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A: I'm scared.
    B: Don't be scared.
    A: How can I trust anyone.
    B: You can trust me.
    A: Say, isn't that Lewis Carrol?
    B: Yes.
    A: I thought he was dead.
    B: Normally, yes, but this is cyber space. 'Lots going on here.
    A: Still, creepy.
    B: No argument here. Don't go to the online photo studio when he's working there.

  53. Free Advertising by Nept · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'News Corp. plans to appoint a "safety czar" to oversee the site, launch an education campaign that may include letters to schools and public-service announcements

    so free advertising for MySpace targeted at their #1 demographic? See kids, MySpace is dangerous. Oooh ... Ahhh ... Where can I sign up?

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  54. OmG u are teh Funniez!!1!.!one!! by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 0, Troll

    Wow that's so funny because, like, he shot someone, right? W0oot wow you rulzed teh Int@rwebs!

    Listen, I'll let you use that joke for another week, but then that's it. No more.

  55. I just wish.. by Kylere · · Score: 1

    I just wish they would stop all the silly little emo-kiddies from hotlinking.

  56. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by seann · · Score: 1

    "Johnson, I've seen some riske pictures of you on myspace."
    "Mr President?"
    "Come to our party this weekend :D"

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  57. Most pedophiles are female? Most witches were too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    It might surprise you, but MOST pedofiles are female, not male. I said most pedophiles, not most convicted pedophiles. The stereotype of some middle aged balding man stalking children on the internet and setting up clandestine rendeveous is just that, a bigotted stereotype. Women by far and large have far more acess to children, whether their own, or others peoples children, and by far make up the bulk of all child care workers. Women just don't get caught, because they do it always on the sly and always under the guise of responsibility.

    Lets see? Who is most likely to get in your little kids pants? The lonely shy old guy down the street raking the leaves in his yard? Or that woman at the child care day center that changes your kids diapers every afternoon and wipes them clean? How about the babysitter you leave them with? How about your wife, because you don't like cahnge diapers? Your family doctor, when you take your kid in for a check up? I thought so.

    The friendly old guy down the street you think is weird and who you are spreading whispered slander and suspicions about around the neighborhood is just being friendly because he's lonely and has no access to your kids pants.

    Most people "assume" women just have more integrity and care and would never do such to children because of their natural assumed inclinations to "motherhood" (rather ignoring that there is a counterpart natural guy inclidnation to something called fatherhood). At any rate, I decided to put this to the test.

    I made a profile of someone who looks like a little girl on mate1, which allows female to female communication for free. Its been up for over a year now, and let me tell you, I can be logged in for only minutes and I get flooded by sleezy chat requests and emails from an ocean of lesbians. You think guys are perverts? They can't hold a candle to depraved imaginations and fantasies of lesbian and bisexual women.

    As a control, I made a profile of a friendly average looking guy at the same time, just to see how much interest he would get from females. I would subtract that amount from the amount the girl profile got. Let me tell you, they don't even compare. I get maybe a few winks a month and emails to his account. To the girls account, I must get 30 emails a day from perverted females wanting to write nasty to her or meet in person.

    Makes you think, don't it?

    You know, this whole pedophile scare thing though, has all been done before in history. Except back then it wasn't pedophiles, they were called "witches". All you had to be was accused of being a witch, and all kinds of injustices and slander was levied against you, and in the end you ended up dead whether you confessed or not. This pedophile witchhunt is just that, a witchhunt. Have you ever met a pedophile? I don't imagine so? And of those that are out there, are they really bad people, or just lonely misguided people. Everytime I go to the mall I can walk through an ocena of people without ever being spoken to... which makes me wonder... our society of fear of the unknown grossly isolates us from each other.

    As I studied and read on it further, I began to think in caveman terms, that what is called pedophila actually had some purpose in our evolution. Most instincts did, its just our modern interpretation that labels them as evil. For example, murder was a way to defend yourself and survive, but today it is socially unacceptable. The same for theft. Rape, possibly considered one of the most heinous of crimes today, is deeply ingrained into our biological strata as the fundamental way to perpetuate the species. If you watch animal species, you see, probably about half the sex is consensual, and half is not at all.

    So where does pedophilia, this interest in childrens genitalia, fit into our evolutionary instinct tree, even though today it is socially unacceptable? Well, if children aren't cleaned up after they defecate, I imagine all kinds of nasty infections and so on can result. T

  58. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe Some people want to be found by sexual predators

  59. Re:This is what happens when a Corporation buys... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time to take your meds, John.

  60. Damn dirty whores by 77Punker · · Score: 1

    So it all boils down to this: act like a whore and you'll get treated like a whore. So simple; so perfect.

  61. Myspace has built in safety protocols by Gary+Destruction · · Score: 1

    Everytime a teenager tries to view an inappriopriate profile they get a white screen that says,"Sorry! An unexpected error has occurred!"

  62. A better idea by MayorDefacto · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would like it better if Myspace appointed a "pages-that-don't-cause-my-browser-to-buffer-overr un-and-implode-cazr" Seriously, those assholes who have 10 inline videos running at the same time should be lined up and shot.

    1. Re:A better idea by Cnik70 · · Score: 1

      Thank god I'm not the only one who feels this way. I don't see why people feel the nned to post a million f'ing music videos on their profile page.

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  63. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by smbarbour · · Score: 1

    AOL chant rooms in 1994 were way more scary!

    I'd be scared of AOL chant rooms too!

  64. Myspace must die. by jcuervo · · Score: 1

    But not because of paedophiles and whatnot. If you aren't supervising your kids when they're not old enough to know better, it's your fault. </caps>

    By the way: yes, I do have a Myspace page. Apparently, I'm not the first person to create a Myspace profile just to tell Myspace lusers how much I hate them. :P

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    1. Re:Myspace must die. by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      I only use myspace because my friends are on it. I hate it personally

  65. myspace expects you to give out info by brlewis · · Score: 1

    As a kid signing up for a big, important web site, how are you supposed to say no when they ask you for (at a minimum) your age, zip code and birthday? Surely the creators of that web site know what they're doing, right? And how as a kid are you suppposed to know that people can find you using that information?

    You get a sequentially-allocated identity immediately (straightforward to fish for) that is public for whatever window of time it takes you to figure out how to make it private. Of course, getting popular on myspace is a lot easier with a public profile anyway. With a private one, all your friends need to give their personal information to myspace too.

  66. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In my school there are 13 people that are suspended due to pictures from Facebook.com. There were at least 30 more people that the administration could have suspended if they had bothered. Some of them were perfect students (strait As).

  67. mall/playground/park/MySpace by brlewis · · Score: 1
    It's just the cybersapce equiv of any mall/playground/park.
    Exactly. If people at the park dressed and talked the way they do on myspace, I wouldn't let my own kids play there either.
  68. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 1

    I know its funny, but it also is serious. For example, someone in my department has a myspace that says they are looking for a career change... Who would be dumb enough to let that hang out in public?

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  69. profiles that use the word "like" more than twice by brlewis · · Score: 1

    (> (like-instances your-sentence) 2) ==> #f

  70. Myspace already cleaning up, annoying some by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    One of SF's club kids had pictures from her LA porno shoot and her InkyGirls photos on Myspace. Myspace made her take them down. Now she only has the poster for her strip club and an R-rated image up. Annoyed at this, she started up her own pay site, off Myspace.

    How can Myspace survive when they're pushing off their most productive members?

  71. I've seen very few sane people on Myspace by Donniedarkness · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My sister has an account, and I created one named "Tom Therapist" (Tom The rapist) to see if she would accept his friend invite. She is 14 and my "character", Tom, was 29. He had no information listed, other than his name and age. She accepted, and she has waaaay too much personal info on her myspace.

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    1. Re:I've seen very few sane people on Myspace by identity0 · · Score: 1

      Uh, you do realize that 'Therapist' spells - wait for it - Therapist?

      Yes, I've pointed that out to my therapist, who found it rather amusing.

      Granted, I would not post too much personal info online regardless of what the other dude was called, but your example was not really all that good.

    2. Re:I've seen very few sane people on Myspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      That is probably why he mentioned that in his post.
      "Tom Therapist" (Tom The rapist)
    3. Re:I've seen very few sane people on Myspace by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      Yeah, so? people put all sorts of stuff on their pages and say all sorts of things. I doubt rapists advertise themselves as such as a pickup line.

      Many people, probably most, approve most anyone who requests it. Just what kind of personal information does a 14 year old put on his site that places him at risk? Address? Telephone? I never see those things. What I do see are the city, the school, and sometimes IM handles. That's hardly terrible stuff.

      If Tom the Rapist talked his 14 year old target into meeting him then that would be different. Adding him means nothing.

  72. myspace should take responsibilty for proxys by micromegas · · Score: 1

    I know I know it's not their fault...As a tech. admin for a highschool, I see the monumental waste of time and possible dangers as students spend time on myspace. I've blocked myspace.com (via squidgaurd) but the proxys make it impossible to restrict access.

  73. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by darkmeridian · · Score: 2, Funny

    I use my myspace site to try to improve my co-worker's perception of me.

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  74. Easy Solution by tfcdesign · · Score: 1

    Require age & digital signature. Separate the under 18 results from the over 18. Allow under 18 users to opt in to the over 18 but no optin to under 18 for over 18 users. Or in other words dis allow viewing of under 18 users buy over 18 users unless the under 18 user mannually opts in.

    When the under 18 user signs up, they get the warning text about sexual predators. For those who are already signed up, send an email.

    I cant believe, even though there is no proof MySPace had anything to do with a crime, that this happeniong and people are making such a big deal.

    As an over 18 person, I would PREFER to have under 18 online users blocked from my blogs and networking accounts. And myself, blocked from theirs.

  75. do me a favore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    call Rupert Murdoch
    tell him to look on America's Most Wanted for child molesters
    I'm so sorry
    3

  76. Re:Most pedophiles are female? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, you must be trolling. You're spouting what sounds suspiciously like nonsense and offering absolutely no statistical or scientific evidence. I don't deny there are female molesters, but until you show me even a smidgen of real evidence, you're just full of opinions and bull.

  77. re: Cheney for Safety Czar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Safety Off" Czar, more like ;)

  78. EMO KIDS by Danzigism · · Score: 2, Funny
    i'm personally just tired of emo kids.. the Myspace trend, just like New Wave and Hair Metal, will die out, and we'll look back and laugh at all the idiots showing off their stupid haircuts, and the guys that wear women's jeans with white studded belts..

    I also think Myspace is like a Lazy Man's Blog.. creeps rather check out how their lady friends are "looking" instead of reading about how they're "doing".. just another source of anonymity for stalkers.. screw SpySpace..

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    1. Re:EMO KIDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. kids with the stupid hankerchief in their back pocket.

      2. kids with poor taste in music.

      3. kids who are property of corporate youth america (it's fuckin newscorp) and somehow think their rebels.

      and my personal favorite

      4. kids who think their are web designers because they put a music video on their myspace, but dont know what HTML is let alone what it stands for.

    2. Re:EMO KIDS by Danzigism · · Score: 1

      HAHAHAHA :-D great run-down of those little fuckin bastards...

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  79. For Chuck, read Dick... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guns don't kill people, Dick Cheney kills people.

    Two spruced up cliches for the price of one!

  80. Well Duh! by Luscious868 · · Score: 1
    MySpace is being criticized for exposing children to risqué content and sexual predators.

    Oh, please! I get sick and tired of hearing it. On the Internet you can go anywhere and do anything. That means that predators are going to go the places the kids go ... just like in real life ... whether or it be MySpace, Yahoo Chat, AOL, etc. IMHO it's the parents and the pedaphiles who are at fault here. You need to monitor your children. You need to watch them when you go out and if you have a computer with an Internet connection at home then you need to watch them there too. We're all busy but if you don't have time to actually be a parent then you shouldn't have had children. Stop blaming everyone and everything else because you can't or won't do your job.

    Rational readers can stop now cause I'm pissed and I'm going to vent. Not to go off on a rant here but man oh man do some Baby Boomers and some of the older Gen X'ers ever piss me off. Everything is all about them and nothing is ever their fault. With that "me, me, me, now, now, now" attitude (which is reflected wonderfully by the national debt and the fiscal insoundness of Socail Security and Medicare) you guys are really doing a bang up job of keeping everyting in order for the next generation. You know for a group of people who claims to care so much for your children you are really leaving us all up shit creek....

    I'm not excusing my own generation either because lord knows most of us have that attidue as well but with parents like ours, can you really blame us? What I'm trying to figure out is how the hell you came from the Greatest Generation. They damn near sacrificed everything in order to make this world a better place for those of us who came after only to raise a group of children who, on the face of it, couldn't care less about anyone other than themselves. Flame on ....

  81. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by masdog · · Score: 1

    Myspace isn't the only site that needs that warning. Facebook needs it as well.

  82. Make myspace safer? by Scorchen · · Score: 1

    Someone needs to rent a couple botnets and dDos the shit out of myspace for months until its users go back to their dark rooms/mall.

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  83. Try making it safer for browsers by zantolak · · Score: 1

    If I had a nickel for every time some MySpace profile with several embedded videos nearly crashed Mozilla, News Corp. wouldn't own it. Seriously, get rid of , the illegible text and eye-damaging backgrounds are barely tolerable without lousy music blaring in your ears.

  84. Re:Most pedophiles are female? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I thought so at first. But women can be disasters as childrearing too. Just look at the portrayal of the mother on Family Guy...she raised a fat, dumb son, an ugly daughter, a baby who hates her, and is married to a fag. Or the Simpsons, where Marge is emotionally void and confused/overwhelmed by basic tasks. Seems like these broken-family stereotypes exist for a reason.

    As for guys, we are made to feel uncomfortable around younger women, even when the girls like it. Chalk it up to jealousy from married males, but the deck is stacked against young girls getting with the young men they admire. Lesbo peodophile theories aside, I think this is mostly what the poster was railing against, and it represents the worst aspects of our guilt-ridden Catholic society - that which you most want, is regarded by law as the least natural.

  85. Might be related to this incident by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone got killed at a party this week, which went got out of hand after being advertised at myspace: http://www.berkeleydaily.org/text/article.cfm?issu e=02-14-06&storyID=23417

  86. The real question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The real question is why anyone would knowingly support Rupert Murdoch? From the quick look I took, I see people trying their best to show how "individual" and "creative" they are [fuck the system] yet don't seem to have a problem supporting something which undermines the very principles that they hold dear. I see it as nothing more than an example of vanity over intelligence.

    Hard for me to take any of it (or them) seriously. Perhaps this is why you won't find those with an ounce of integrity on myspace. They're too busy living and supporting those things which matter.

  87. Google's not much better... by RoadWarriorX · · Score: 1

    Ever go to Google Images? It's pretty straight-forward to turn off their SafeSearch feature and view free p0rn. I do not hear anyone complaining about that.

    Alas, it still boils down to monitoring your children's Internet time. Pay attention, parents! How about using that time more effectively? Like going to the art museaum, or to a baseball game, or have family time game night?

  88. People take more risks on the Internet by Nerdposeur · · Score: 1
    The kids that get in trouble on the internet are the same ones that would get in trouble at the mall or wherever.

    Really? Are Slashdotters, as a rule, as outspoken in real life as they are here? I doubt it. Do email flamewars erupt more easily than real life arguments? Yes.

    From the safety of their computers, even shy people will do riskier things. What the parent poster was saying is that kids don't take to heart the fact that real-life predators may be watching them online. How we solve this problem is debatable, but I agree that it exists.

    1. Re:People take more risks on the Internet by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1

      ...I didn't disagree that the problem exists. However, the "real" damage occurs offline and it does take a willful act to get there.

      I think what people disagree about here is that teenagers are in fact willfully pursuing these things and that if they had a nice, clean, safe on-line environment, the urge to pursue these things would magically disappear. On the contrary, I think it's pretty likely that for those who are willfully engaging in these things, the more they know they're being policed, the more likely they'll be to go somewhere else... just like in the "real world."

  89. MySpace doesn't have to suck by Sloppy · · Score: 1
    You can't block the whole internet without completing DOSing yourselves. And when you get down to it, MySpace is just a structured hosting service. Your daughter could just as easily put up a web page anywhere else and include too much personal info on it. Just teach your daughter to be careful, and then not only does MySpace cease to be a threat, but the rest of the 'net does too. MySpace isn't a special case, and any policy that treats it as such, will fail.

    there's really no redeeming qualities about myspace and so much to be abused.
    MySpace is what you make of it. If you don't put crap on your profile, then your profile won't be crap (except for the ads). If you don't friend weirdos, then you won't be interacting with weirdos. It's merely a slice of life, so if MySpace doesn't have any redeeming qualities, then you're not going to find redeeming qualities anywhere else on the net, either. Browse Slashdot at -1 to see what I'm talking about.

    FWIW, I've gotten quite a bit out of that piece of junk. It helps me keep up with my favorite local bands, and I met my girlfriend there (and we're both in our mid 30s!). View it as a tool and you'll find some way to use it.

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  90. Czars, Schmars... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

    I want to be the Rasputin.

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  91. About that by JPriest · · Score: 1

    They could restrict the information people are willing ot give out simply by making changes to the web site. To me "launch an education campaign that may include letters to schools and public-service announcements" sounds like "lunch a huge advertisement campaign targeted at the people we are claiming to be protecting"

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  92. I'm glad they're doing this by sulliva · · Score: 1

    I used to work at a Public School as a computer technician, and out of nowhere came a huge uproar about this. Nosy teacher aides got pointing out specific things in kids profiles, like "I love to smoke pot" or nonsense like that... making it even a bigger problem. I immediately shut down access to the site, but it still didn't stop the kids from accessing it at home, and they ended up having a state trooper come in the next day and talk to kids about making their profiles less specific. Kids are stupid. Real stupid. I saw profiles with kids full names and phone numbers.

  93. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by glenstar · · Score: 1

    I wonder what that poor fucknuts is going to say when he logs in tomorrow and sees 25,000 new profile views? Alas.... that is not even close to some of the worst profiles.

  94. Its already safe %50 of the time by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    ... due to its uptime rating in the %50 range.

    At least it seems that way to me or you get in and you have to hit reload 10x in a row or the back button because of random error messages.

    Funny how real administrators conser %99.97 low and fireable yet Tom remains employeed??

  95. Interesting marketing tactic... by MotherSuperior · · Score: 1
    What's always sort of bothered me about all the criticism surrounding Myspace lately is the source. I rarely even see it mentioned, except on Fox News, and my local Fox affiliate. (Fox is owned by News Corp, for you cave-dwellers). I also couldn't help but notice that all this criticism started shortly after News Corp's acquisition of Myspace.

    For some reason, the phrase 'There's no such thing as bad publicity' suddenly came to mind. Especially in the case of my local Fox affiliate station. I literally watch this because it can occasionally rival the Daily Show for humor value, if you can stop your heart from breaking about the fact that it's being passed off as actual journalism. Just in the words the anchors were using, as they were describing this potential evil known as Myspace.com - it sounded like an advertisement. KTXL Fox 40 has always been extremely ham-handed about the things you know are being whispered on the set before tape starts rolling, which is where I derive the humor value, and also a scrap of insight about what the more subtle news organizations are doing. That being said, Fox 40 has reported on this 'scandal' constantly since the acquisition, and I've heard it mentioned no small number of times on Fox News, either. Now I ask you - what purpose could News Corp and it's affiliates possibly have for attacking a sister company? Driving up hits, perhaps? Shocked, outraged parents signing on to see what the fuss is all about - and more insiduously - children and teenagers who might be prone to looking for explicit sexual material anyway due to things like... oh, I don't know. Being in the range of 14-18 years old. They might as well have said 'Hey, teens! Surf to Myspace.com, and get laid tonight!'.

    There may very well be data that contradicts me here, but from personal observation, I haven't seen a whole lot of 6 year olds with myspace profiles. Not that influencing a 15 year old into the sack makes you an upstanding citizen. It just seems that Myspace's target market is the exact group of people that are going to be the most easily coerced into sexual relations. Imagine you're 17 years old, watching Fox News with the parents, with hormones spilling out your ears. Your local anchor tells you about all this explicit material, and potential to 'get a piece', and even throws in that your parents will disapprove! Sounds like a commercial to me. And a rather twisted one at that.

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  96. Re:Safer? Troll??? by catdevnull · · Score: 1

    My, the moderators have no sense of humor today....

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  97. Coincidence..well, not really ;-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I happen to do tech support for a major notebook manufacturer. I had a call from some girl who gets internet through her college residence asking me why she is not able to access the web site (while other web sites work fine). I wish I could recall if this happened before or after this story was posted.

  98. Re:What do you mean exposing children to predators by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    In my school there are 13 people that are suspended due to pictures from Facebook.com. There were at least 30 more people that the administration could have suspended if they had bothered. Some of them were perfect students (strait As).

    God, let's hope they never show at a Frat Party. Half the damn school will be on leave.

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  99. You mean like this girl.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.myspace.com/brandymalone
    She works in Nashville radio

  100. Reply to sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Having a smoking section in a public restaurant is like having a peeing section in a public swimming pool."

    I disagree:

    Pee is not carcinogenic.
    It takes a lot more people peeing to make the swimming pool stink.
    People may be able to choose where they pee, but they can't choose whether they pee.