my concern for the integrity lies in the fact that the sample came from a very narrow demographic/geographic selection. Totally reasonable concern.
I would be interested to see the same study done with...8-15 year-olds...across ethnic backgrounds...spans more than a few school districts and/or municipal water systems...
Well, do you really think that that won't happen once *a* target gene has been identified?
Did the scientists avoid crossing ethnic backgrounds so that they would not have to deal with that slippery slope?
I'd imagine based on your earlier questions that it was more a question of isolation. Once you have something to look at with an isolated number of variables, doesn't it make more sense to get those findings before moving on to....say....the whole diversity of humanity?
Seriously, they aren't hawking a pill yet. IANAGenetecist, but if there's anything to this particular study that will happen.
One of the local businesses used to hire students on summer vacation for clean-up of the property and shop. Few skills required, good hours, etc. But, once the minimum wage got over $3/hour, it was less expensive for the owners to do that work themselves. No more low-skill jobs there, and no chance to get your foot in the door for the high-skill, high-paying jobs in the rest of the plant.
I'd say the extra cost should probably go under the heading of "investing in the future". Well, unless that is, they expect the government to pick up the tab for doing that training that is really their responsibility. If they want people to learn *their* business isn't it reasonable that they should pick up the tab for training them?
Maybe not though. Were they in favor of huge tax increases on businesses in order to properly train their future employees?
Then maybe you should actually learn something about the subject before spouting off on it?
but facism is no different than communism.
It most certainly is different. There are many similarities, and many of the negative effects are similar, but they are fundamentally different.
Whoever came up with this dual definition was an idiot. Both forms are formed from the same roots - trends towards government control.
Conservatism is called conservatism for a reason - because it wants the least government control possible, as opposed to liberalism, which is trying to control every aspect of people's lives.
No, they were not an idiot. There are fundamental differences between the Left and the Right. The fact that you can spout this shows that you know nothing at all about the subject, yet you still feel the need to spout it.
You are right that both the Left and the Right want big government control. Your statement that conservatism is called that for a reason is one of the most backwardsass Orwellian things I have ever heard.
Conservatism is right wing, Socialism and Communism are Left wing. Do you even know what they are right or left of?!?
That's right. Liberalism.
Liberalism is the philosophy that all people are created equal and the individual is the important element of a society. Individual liberty is the hallmark of Liberalism.
The Left is defined by agreeing with Liberalism in that all people are created equal but believing further that the power of the state should be used to enforce that. Is that clear, "Comrade"?
The Right is defined by disagreeing with the fundamental tenent of Liberalism that all people are created equal further, they believe that the power of the state should be used to *prevent* equality. That is why the party on the Right is *always* the party of the wealthy elite.
So conservatives, who believe in using the power of the government to ban people from getting married becasue they don't like who those people are. They believe in using the power of the state to promote the wealthy elite at the expense of the general populace. They believe in using the power of the state to prevent people from being allowed to see or hear anything "dirty". Seriously dude, you're spouting utter crap which doesn't stand up to a single second of thought.
Now, the term "Liberal" has been under attack by both the Left and the Right in America for a long time since they are both in favor of big oppressive government. Of course, there really is no Left in this country. What we have are a moderately right wing party which has a number of Left-Fascists in it as well (the Democrats) and an extremist right wing party (the Republicans).
Seriously dude, if you don't even understand the basics of political systems don't spout nonsense. Certainly don't say you don't want to start a politics war when you're spouting nonsense that 5 minutes of research would have clued you in on.
you can bet that your trash company is not your government, but rather a private firm that has a contract with your government.
So you're saying that they socialized the costs and privatized the profits? So the government takes our money and gives it to a for profit company guaranteeing that it will always cost us more than it costs to do it?
If you look at England as a model of the way this is heading, they used to own a ton of companies in the 70s and 80s and was more of a socialist environment. What happened? Rampant waste, deadlines missed, sky high taxes and an overall stagnate economy. In the 90's they began privatizing these corporations and they became profitable and well run. No more taxes being dumped into these wasteful programs.
Well, you're either a troll or have no clue how the privatization in England actually went. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think many people in England actually agree with you. Now all of the problems you mentioned are *worse*. The service is worse, and the separate train lines are incompatible.
Some things will never work privatized, and some things go straight to shit because of the way they are privatized. The British train system is the latter.
But what it absolutely isn't is what you said.
Seriously dude, you might make some attempt to actually figure out the facts before you spout nonsense propaganda.
The United States is probably the country farthest from communism in this day and age,
Sure, but you are aware that what you just said makes a pretty damn good definition of Fascism aren't you? Seriously, Fascism was invented for the express purpose of being as far away from communism as possible.
We fought a big war a while ago against that very thing, now we have people bragging about how we're exactly that. Truly frightening.
Looks like I will be moving to Packet8 a little sooner than I thought.
I've been with them for over a year in Chicago with no complaints. My mom signed up with them on my recommendation in Seattle and cancelled soon after due to poor service so YMMV.
Then maybe it shouldn't have the same freakin' name as a certain Messianic figure who has nothing to do with the changing of the seasons. Not to mention the "Mass" in the name. In short, if what you say is true, then there's absolutely no reason to call it Christmas.
Well, besides a long tradition, there isn't any reason to call it that. There is a reason why it is called that though. The early Christian church did a lot of the old Embrace Extend Extinguish back in the day. Winter solstice they called Christmas and said it's now a celebration of Jesus. The saints are just a replacement for the various polytheistic pantheons that were subverted. Christianity really is just a "religious greatest hits". They have it all. Cannibalism, human sacrifice. It was built up by cherry picking various parts of various other religions that had been around over the years.
Were you just kidding, or do you really not know anything about the origin of Christianity?
"Fevered" politically-correct "delusions" such as "some Americans are Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, or atheists"? Check your own damned fever.
Hardly. I'm an atheist, and I've always celebrated Christmas. It's the freaking winter solstice celebration and has been since long before Christianity even existed. Heck, if there ever was a Jesus, then most evidence points to him having been born in the summer. It isn't even remotely a religious holiday in general although there are those who treat it as such.
I celebrate it as the end of the year, it's a time when most people have time off and I can get together with family and friends I haven't seen in some time. All of my family and most of my wife's live on the West Coast (From San Diego to Vancouver) and we live in Chicago. It's really nice to know that there's a time we can plan well in advance to head home and everybody will be there.
So, if you live in America, then you will "have" a Christmas whether or not you do anything that day or not. The OP was exactly right. Whoever modded him flamebait was an idiot.
Hmmm, I'm atheist. I don't say that what I believe is anything more than that, a belief. I don't think the existence of a god makes sense, but I also don't claim that to be scientific fact. I believe there is no god, there is no doubt in my mind. Is that a religion? Yes, of course it is.
Well, your particular individual "beliefs" might play out that way, but there's no need for all of that.
The simple fact is that everybody in the entire history of the world was born an atheist. Many people at some point choose to begin believing in a god, the vast majority of the time because their parents drum into their heads from birth that if they don't, they'll burn.
Just because you don't choose to buy into any particular brand of nonsense that somebody is pushing doesn't mean that you're being "religious" about it.
There is a whole bunch of crap people try to sell all the time which I don't see any need to believe.
That doesn't mean that I am religiously not believing in them. It just means that I think their ideas are without merit. All religion falls squarely under that description, so I am an atheist ("A"= without "theism"=belief in god(s) ), but that is in no way, shape, or form religious in any way. It's just simple common sense.
Of course, you believe or don't believe what you want for your own reasons and that might not apply to you.
You see, they say that their products are entirely spyware-free. Wait... does that mean that their products do not have any other spyware and their product does not have any spyware attached -- the whole program is just spyware, nothing else..
Oh come now, it's totally straight forward. Their products are entirely Spyware and you get them for free.
Heh, I just got 2 Netgear WGR614 Wireless-G routers, a PCMCIA and a PCI wireless G card for $25 out of pocket with a $40 rebate to send in. Grand total? -$15.00.
I do believe that this is true overall, but I wonder if it's true with servers where they might be replaced with Windows Server 2000 or 2003?
Well one data point from the small company I work for.
We have 20 Linux servers all running gentoo. We have support for the hardware, but not the OS. My new baby (dual Opteron) is in charge of cross compiling updates for all the other machines as well as network and server monitoring (nagios, cacti, snort etc). Additionally it connects across all tiers, so we can centrally manage all other servers including remote desktop to our remaining Windows servers which are being fazed out.
Anyhow, that's what we have for what that's worth. We are not running any big commercial software packages though.
I said they have every right to kill their own market.
Right, and the way they are trying to apply this "right" is exactly what I said. That is what people are complaining about, and that is what you keep defending.
but under Bush (love him, hate him or anything in between on other issues, like bungling the Hurricane Katrina situation in New Orleans) you got to admit he supports religion (he has an office of faith based initiatives).
No, as you demonstrated by mentioning the "Office", he supports merging religion and government. That can only lead to corruption of religion as has been demonstrated every time it's been tried.
So clearly, he does not support religion even though he says he does.
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my concern for the integrity lies in the fact that the sample came from a very narrow demographic/geographic selection.
....say....the whole diversity of humanity?
Totally reasonable concern.
I would be interested to see the same study done with...8-15 year-olds...across ethnic backgrounds...spans more than a few school districts and/or municipal water systems...
Well, do you really think that that won't happen once *a* target gene has been identified?
Did the scientists avoid crossing ethnic backgrounds so that they would not have to deal with that slippery slope?
I'd imagine based on your earlier questions that it was more a question of isolation. Once you have something to look at with an isolated number of variables, doesn't it make more sense to get those findings before moving on to
Seriously, they aren't hawking a pill yet. IANAGenetecist, but if there's anything to this particular study that will happen.
I've done two things that very few legislators in this country have... I've read the constitution, and I understand it.
Not that you haven't, but...
Take the third step: Believe in it, and you will have made yourself entirely unelectable.
Sad but true.
I wonder how many other positive genes manifest only in males?
The main one is technically called "The Power of the Pole"
Use it wisely, my son.
It said whiLe females... not whiTe females...
;-)
Damn. Maybe prison can smarten this one up as well
No offense brother (OP). Glad you're doing better.
I was wondering why a librarian would care... does that mean I fail?
Depends. Did she take off her glasses and dance for you around and whatnot?
One of the local businesses used to hire students on summer vacation for clean-up of the property and shop. Few skills required, good hours, etc. But, once the minimum wage got over $3/hour, it was less expensive for the owners to do that work themselves. No more low-skill jobs there, and no chance to get your foot in the door for the high-skill, high-paying jobs in the rest of the plant.
I'd say the extra cost should probably go under the heading of "investing in the future".
Well, unless that is, they expect the government to pick up the tab for doing that training that is really their responsibility. If they want people to learn *their* business isn't it reasonable that they should pick up the tab for training them?
Maybe not though. Were they in favor of huge tax increases on businesses in order to properly train their future employees?
I don't want to start a gigantic politics war
Then maybe you should actually learn something about the subject before spouting off on it?
but facism is no different than communism.
It most certainly is different. There are many similarities, and many of the negative effects are similar, but they are fundamentally different.
Whoever came up with this dual definition was an idiot. Both forms are formed from the same roots - trends towards government control.
Conservatism is called conservatism for a reason - because it wants the least government control possible, as opposed to liberalism, which is trying to control every aspect of people's lives.
No, they were not an idiot. There are fundamental differences between the Left and the Right. The fact that you can spout this shows that you know nothing at all about the subject, yet you still feel the need to spout it.
You are right that both the Left and the Right want big government control.
Your statement that conservatism is called that for a reason is one of the most backwardsass Orwellian things I have ever heard.
Conservatism is right wing, Socialism and Communism are Left wing. Do you even know what they are right or left of?!?
That's right. Liberalism.
Liberalism is the philosophy that all people are created equal and the individual is the important element of a society. Individual liberty is the hallmark of Liberalism.
The Left is defined by agreeing with Liberalism in that all people are created equal but believing further that the power of the state should be used to enforce that. Is that clear, "Comrade"?
The Right is defined by disagreeing with the fundamental tenent of Liberalism that all people are created equal further, they believe that the power of the state should be used to *prevent* equality. That is why the party on the Right is *always* the party of the wealthy elite.
So conservatives, who believe in using the power of the government to ban people from getting married becasue they don't like who those people are. They believe in using the power of the state to promote the wealthy elite at the expense of the general populace. They believe in using the power of the state to prevent people from being allowed to see or hear anything "dirty". Seriously dude, you're spouting utter crap which doesn't stand up to a single second of thought.
Now, the term "Liberal" has been under attack by both the Left and the Right in America for a long time since they are both in favor of big oppressive government.
Of course, there really is no Left in this country.
What we have are a moderately right wing party which has a number of Left-Fascists in it as well (the Democrats) and an extremist right wing party (the Republicans).
Seriously dude, if you don't even understand the basics of political systems don't spout nonsense. Certainly don't say you don't want to start a politics war when you're spouting nonsense that 5 minutes of research would have clued you in on.
you can bet that your trash company is not your government, but rather a private firm that has a contract with your government.
So you're saying that they socialized the costs and privatized the profits?
So the government takes our money and gives it to a for profit company guaranteeing that it will always cost us more than it costs to do it?
Yep, that's fascism.
If you look at England as a model of the way this is heading, they used to own a ton of companies in the 70s and 80s and was more of a socialist environment. What happened? Rampant waste, deadlines missed, sky high taxes and an overall stagnate economy. In the 90's they began privatizing these corporations and they became profitable and well run. No more taxes being dumped into these wasteful programs.
Well, you're either a troll or have no clue how the privatization in England actually went. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think many people in England actually agree with you.
Now all of the problems you mentioned are *worse*.
The service is worse, and the separate train lines are incompatible.
Some things will never work privatized, and some things go straight to shit because of the way they are privatized. The British train system is the latter.
But what it absolutely isn't is what you said.
Seriously dude, you might make some attempt to actually figure out the facts before you spout nonsense propaganda.
The United States is probably the country farthest from communism in this day and age,
Sure, but you are aware that what you just said makes a pretty damn good definition of Fascism aren't you?
Seriously, Fascism was invented for the express purpose of being as far away from communism as possible.
We fought a big war a while ago against that very thing, now we have people bragging about how we're exactly that.
Truly frightening.
Looks like I will be moving to Packet8 a little sooner than I thought.
I've been with them for over a year in Chicago with no complaints.
My mom signed up with them on my recommendation in Seattle and cancelled soon after due to poor service so YMMV.
Then maybe it shouldn't have the same freakin' name as a certain Messianic figure who has nothing to do with the changing of the seasons. Not to mention the "Mass" in the name. In short, if what you say is true, then there's absolutely no reason to call it Christmas.
Well, besides a long tradition, there isn't any reason to call it that.
There is a reason why it is called that though. The early Christian church did a lot of the old Embrace Extend Extinguish back in the day. Winter solstice they called Christmas and said it's now a celebration of Jesus.
The saints are just a replacement for the various polytheistic pantheons that were subverted.
Christianity really is just a "religious greatest hits". They have it all. Cannibalism, human sacrifice. It was built up by cherry picking various parts of various other religions that had been around over the years.
Were you just kidding, or do you really not know anything about the origin of Christianity?
can you imagine what the paper would look like if they gave references for every press release they printed?
Like an actual journalistic publication put out by people who would have the foggiest idea of what integrity was if it bit them on the ass?
Damn Dude.
That's Raging Bull, not Rocky.
"Fevered" politically-correct "delusions" such as "some Americans are Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, or atheists"? Check your own damned fever.
Hardly.
I'm an atheist, and I've always celebrated Christmas. It's the freaking winter solstice celebration and has been since long before Christianity even existed. Heck, if there ever was a Jesus, then most evidence points to him having been born in the summer.
It isn't even remotely a religious holiday in general although there are those who treat it as such.
I celebrate it as the end of the year, it's a time when most people have time off and I can get together with family and friends I haven't seen in some time. All of my family and most of my wife's live on the West Coast (From San Diego to Vancouver) and we live in Chicago. It's really nice to know that there's a time we can plan well in advance to head home and everybody will be there.
So, if you live in America, then you will "have" a Christmas whether or not you do anything that day or not.
The OP was exactly right. Whoever modded him flamebait was an idiot.
Hmmm, I'm atheist. I don't say that what I believe is anything more than that, a belief. I don't think the existence of a god makes sense, but I also don't claim that to be scientific fact. I believe there is no god, there is no doubt in my mind. Is that a religion? Yes, of course it is.
Well, your particular individual "beliefs" might play out that way, but there's no need for all of that.
The simple fact is that everybody in the entire history of the world was born an atheist.
Many people at some point choose to begin believing in a god, the vast majority of the time because their parents drum into their heads from birth that if they don't, they'll burn.
Just because you don't choose to buy into any particular brand of nonsense that somebody is pushing doesn't mean that you're being "religious" about it.
There is a whole bunch of crap people try to sell all the time which I don't see any need to believe.
That doesn't mean that I am religiously not believing in them. It just means that I think their ideas are without merit.
All religion falls squarely under that description, so I am an atheist ("A"= without "theism"=belief in god(s) ), but that is in no way, shape, or form religious in any way.
It's just simple common sense.
Of course, you believe or don't believe what you want for your own reasons and that might not apply to you.
You see, they say that their products are entirely spyware-free. Wait... does that mean that their products do not have any other spyware and their product does not have any spyware attached -- the whole program is just spyware, nothing else..
Oh come now, it's totally straight forward.
Their products are entirely Spyware and you get them for free.
Heh, I just got 2 Netgear WGR614 Wireless-G routers, a PCMCIA and a PCI wireless G card for $25 out of pocket with a $40 rebate to send in. Grand total? -$15.00.
;-)
My wife is a demon on Fat Wallet
Sam Adams is the hoppiest beer that I know of
;-)
Damn, dude, you need to get out more
Try an IPA if you want to try a really hoppy beer.
I recommend Rogue brewery's I^2PA. That's really *really* hoppy though, so you might not like it.
Few beer drinkers know that amongst all plants the closest relative of hops is cannabis.
You can actually splice branches of one onto the other.
but it would seem clear that not everyone could be drunk at the same time.
;-)
It's worth a try though
Let's just hope Trojan is one of the sponsers or we could have some serious consequences.
I do believe that this is true overall, but I wonder if it's true with servers where they might be replaced with Windows Server 2000 or 2003?
Well one data point from the small company I work for.
We have 20 Linux servers all running gentoo.
We have support for the hardware, but not the OS.
My new baby (dual Opteron) is in charge of cross compiling updates for all the other machines as well as network and server monitoring (nagios, cacti, snort etc).
Additionally it connects across all tiers, so we can centrally manage all other servers including remote desktop to our remaining Windows servers which are being fazed out.
Anyhow, that's what we have for what that's worth. We are not running any big commercial software packages though.
Last time I checked... that little number after the ^ is what 'math people' call an 'exponent'. You'll learn about that next year in algebra.
When you're this completely wrong, you might think about not trying to be a complete dick about it.
In laymans terms, the exponent is a constant the variable keeps being raised to the *same* power. That is a geometric progression.
If the exponent were the variable, like say e^x then it would be exponential.
I said they have every right to kill their own market.
Right, and the way they are trying to apply this "right" is exactly what I said.
That is what people are complaining about, and that is what you keep defending.
but under Bush (love him, hate him or anything in between on other issues, like bungling the Hurricane Katrina situation in New Orleans) you got to admit he supports religion (he has an office of faith based initiatives).
No, as you demonstrated by mentioning the "Office", he supports merging religion and government.
That can only lead to corruption of religion as has been demonstrated every time it's been tried.
So clearly, he does not support religion even though he says he does.