I'm getting the impression that the higher-modded posts want companies like Accuweather to just "go away".
If by "companies like Accuweather", you mean companies that take freely available information and use it to provide a useful service which some might then choose to pay for, then your impression is all wrong.
If by "companies like Accuweather", you mean companies that use the government to take freely available information away from the public so that only they have access to it while still making the public pay to collect it, and then charge the public again for access which we already paid for, then yes absolutely I want them to go away.
If you can come up with any sane sort of reason that companies that attempt such utterly disgusting actions should be allowed to exist, then I'm all ears.
I am sick of the G-D Damned government wasting money that they have taken from me at gunpoint.
So your assertion is that it's not ok to rob us all at gunpoint and give us something back for that money (whether or not you agree that you got full value).
Yet you think that it *is* ok to rob us all at gunpoint and then give the benefits to a corporation who will then charge us again?
I'm sure that you understand how insane that sounds?
Wrong on so many levels. Liberalism is the grand intellectual accomplishment of the enlightenement. It's fundamental essence was boiled down to one sentence: "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal."
It's no surprise that people who seek to benefit financially and criminally at the expense of others e.g. execs at GM, Monsanto etc. enjoy pushing that type of blind ignorant hatred of real American values, but how they manage to rope in those like yourself who are just more victims is amazing to me.
Keep in mind folks, anybody who decries Liberalism is shouting their utter contempt for the foundation of America.
Hitting a moose is much, much worse, most cars are too low and just take out the legs (and then the body takes out the occupants).
I was driving along one day minding my own business when a big freaking brown bear ran across the freeway in front of me. I just had to take my foot off the gas to avoid him as there was plenty of room and I didn't need to slam on the brakes or anything, but I was driving a Honda CRX at the time and if I had hit him (doing 70 or so) I doubt there would have been much left except some twisted metal and a slightly annoyed bear.
There's a difference between voting for republicans and supporting the current Republican party.
If you believe that, then you know nothing about what a party is, why they exist, or what they do.
I disagree with much of the upper echelon of the Republican party. I voted for many (not all) Republican candidates in my district / senators in my state because I believe their vision differs somewhat from some of the detestable portions of the party.
Again the naiveity is startling.
They back the party and the (Republican) president on what the party tells them to or they are not allowed to run as a representative of that party.
If you don't like any of the Policies and goals of the Republican party, which at this point include: Hatred of gays Destruction of the middle class by robbing them and handing the money directly to very profitable corporations Instituting fascism in the US Lying to the American people to start unnecessary wars for the purposes of enriching the very rich at the expense of everybody else. Shoving a bastardized version of christianity down everybody's throat
If you disagree with any of these policies and goals then you can not under any circumstances vote for a Republican for any federal office. If you do vote that way, then regardless of what you say you believe or even what you think you believe you are endorsing those activities.
It doesn't matter one shit what they say they believe in. They will toe the party line. They have already seen what happens to those who don't.
Were there a scrap of integrity in the Republican party, Bush would have been impeached and imprisoned years ago.
I voted for a republican candidate because I believe he was better suited to handle economic problems.
You are flat out wrong. Ever since Reagan, the Republican party has waged an all out war on the poor and middle class. What the fuck do you think "supply side economics" is?
I voted for him because he came from a cultural background that would keep him tolerant of the cultural changes that are going on in my state and in the country as a whole.
So you support the poisoning of the culture with religious hatred? You support blind ignorant hatred of gays? You support robbing the people blind to give the money to the very richest? You support labling anybody who disagrees with the president a traitor and a terrorist supporter? You support the rape of the bill of rights and the FOIA?
Those are the cultural changes going on in our country. We had moved far ahead as a people and your people are fighting tooth and nail to drag us back. But you support that.
I have my reasons and they are not of cowardice, foolishness, or sociopathic.
But they quite obviously do fall directly under foolishness (voting for a Republican for fiscal reasons) and sociopathy (promoting destruction of decades of cultural advances for the purpose of hatred)
No, it really is very simple. Basically all it does is say: If it looks like this or like this or like this.......then it's a number. So the *algorithm* is really simple. Knock yourself out implementing it in some other language that you find non-ugly and then it will be both. Doing that doesn't make it any simpler although it might make it easier to read.
Better yet, just compile the perl code and it will look much nicer;-)
You could make it even more realistic by having a few important messages hidden in the bunch, containing a code he needs to gain access to the meal etc.
Go back and read the second paragraph that you quoted. That was exactly his idea.
I mean arent bar codes really obvious? But well. Not so much, until you have them.
Given that the idea of codes goes back at least as far as Julius Caesar, I'd say yes it is obvious. It's just another code. Now, the idea that you can use a mechanical device to read those codes and have them uniquely associated with actual items is fairly novel at least. Put it together in a working model, and then (and only then ) you have something worth allowing a patent on.
Fair enough. I was listening to some old MDC (80s punk band) recently and that was one of the lines from one song. That quote stuck in my head as amazingly perceptive given that it's 20+ years old now.
It's people like you that polarize the electorate and make political discourse like brothers arguing over who can swallow more goldfish.
Hardly. I put forward a statement that I am convinced is a fact. I am offering an opportunity to all comers to come up with one possible situation that does not neatly fit those facts. Nobody has yet endeavored to do so.
The whole fucking country was polarized by the Republican hate machine (Rush, Hannity, Coulter etc. etc. etc.)'s dedication to the poisoning of public discourse long ago.
I don't have the ability to throw you off of this thread for stating a non extremist right wing viewpoint unlike those I mentioned.
It's not that simple.
In general, I agree with you. In this case, you're wrong. If you don't think so, all you have to do is come up with one possible rational sane argument to support the current Republican party. Is it really that hard? Well, of course. That's my point. You have whined like a little bitch, but you have offered nothing to refute it.
Sorry, I've not only seen no such demonstration, I've heard quite a lot of information to the contrary, not least from people who work in the same organization as the woman in question (I live in the DC area - unless you're a complete basement dweller, it's hard not to make at least some friends in that arena).
I don't live in that area, so while I'm not a basement dweller, I have no such insights. I know that he has been fingered as the person who released that information. I also know a fair bit about his history, which is among the sleaziest in the sleaziest of all professions. Given that there is nobody else (well, besides our enemies) who would benefit by the release of that information I'm really at a loss as to who else it could be especially given the administrations complete stonewall on it. So proven in a court of law? Never happen with this administration. Proven to me. Yep.
Treason, in my mind, is more like using the last few minutes of your time in office as president to dole out presidential pardons to fugitive millionaires with family members that have promised to help finance your legacy library in Little Rock.
Wow, I was really hoping it wouldn't even go to DvR
I hate both parties. Their very existence is completely contary to what this country could be. They exist solely to game the system.
Clinton is gone now, and Kerry never was.
The Bush family though is quite possibly the worst possible choice.
Good old Prescott was almost brought up on the treason charges he richly earned by trading with the Nazis while we were at war with them.
George senior was head of the CIA when Kennedy was assassinated. I certainly have no new information on that particular incident, but it is certainly critical that the details of that become public knowledge yet the records are sealed until everybody involved is dead. Again, I have no particular speculations, but if there is anybody in the world who would know the details he's it. And given that you live in that area, you must know more than most that knowledge is power.
Then you have the fact that he was essentially president while Reagan was in office since Reagan was a vegetable. What happened there? Torture schools in Central America, various terrorists funded, trained and supplied (wow, including those who we're at "war" with now), the CIA taking an active role in the interntional cocaine trade (seriously check their website), trading drugs for weapons to sell to more terrorists since they couldn't get the money from congress to do it.
What happened? Well, good old George senior pardoned them all. Now they're making millions doing radio shows (Ollie North), or given control over Total information awareness (Poindexter... oh right, that went away when it didn't get the right approval numbers..sure it did). Or good lord (different area of crime, but..) Henry mother fucking "The illegal we do right away the unconstitutional takes a kittle longer" can't leave the god damned country because he would get prosecuted for crimes against humanity in several countries and rightly so Kissenger was the first choice to head up quite possibly the single most important investigation in the history of this nation.
Then you have the S&L scandal. Oh good lord what do you know. Bushes galore were neck deep in that. That was billions (some would put it at over a trillion) dollars stolen from you, me and everybody else. Wow, again nothing happens.
Then you have the 2000 elections. Well, if you can still defend any Bush at this point, you clearly haven't looked very deeply into what went on there.
So Clinton? Kerry? If I knew nothing about them and you called them scum, I would not disagree based solely upon the nature of the system. But three generations of organized, well orchestrated treason.... the comparison is nonexistant.
Personally I don't care how many meetings an executive branch official has as they form their personal opinions about how to for
I disagree. I will say that anybody who expected it to make much of a difference probably falls there though.
Anyone that thinks one party is morally better than the other is clearly in category 2 (and possibly 3).
Interesting, but again I see a difference even though it is a far smaller one than should be expected by any decent citizen of a free country.
The democrats are owned primarily by the movie and music industries. Granted they are completely sickening fascist fucks. The Republicans are owned by the oil and weapons industries who use murder to increase profit.
There is (in my mind) a slight moral difference between the crimes their respective owners compel their tools to commit.
I don't see how your hatred of Republicans makes you patriotic.
It doesn't.
The voting public re-elected Bush, who's name probably makes you vomit with rage because you are a loud mouth who can't keep yourself from forcing your opinion down the throats of anyone who diagrees.
Wow. your delusional understanding of reality is astounding. Posting what I am stating is a fact on a website == forcing my opinion down somwbody's throat?!? Put down the glass pipe and step away from the crack rock.
The public voted for who they want. You call them a group of stupid cowardly sociopaths.
Half of the voting population voted for who we're currently burdened with. A fairly large number of them have realised what a horrendous mistake they made. The rest, I did call exactly that. You have as yet been unable to actually present an argument to contradict that.
Why is your opinion any more valid than that of those who voted Republican
I've put a great deal of thought into ti. Again, it's not people who voted that way that I'm talking about. It's just those who can look at what that has caused and still think that was the right decision regardless of who they voted for or even if they did vote.
or even those of George W. Bush himself?
Because he is a liar, a coward, and a traitor.. Additionally his "opinions" are not even consistent, let alone defensible.
I am not a Republican, but I certainly have many close, intelligent, brave, and sane friends who are so I take personal offense to your blatantly ignorant statement.
Then rather than make some wild ignorant rant, why not put forward one of their arguments for being such (that presumably you don't find convincing yet don't feel fits one of those categories) and prove me incorrect? Heck, that way rather than being "offended" like a little bitch you could actually demonstrate a grasp of human nature and current events?
think the main problem in this country and probably in the world is people like you, people who immediately write off anyone who has a different opinion as being wrong, and not just wrong, they are stupid, cowardly, and insane. You offer no proof to support any of your radically generalized claims, which leads me to believe that you yourself are nothing more than an angry radical with an axe to grind.
Well, you are completely off base on all of your assumptions. First, I didn't immediately do anything. This is a conclusion that I have reached over many years.
Second, it has nothing to do with whether or not somebody agrees with me or not. It has to do with hearing various cases of faulty reasoning over and over and managing to fit each and every one of them into one (or more) of these categories.
Third, while I didn't offer any proof of my claim since proving a claim such as that in general is impossible, I did offer to demonstrate how any particular such reason fits into one of those categories. You failed to actually offer any possible explanation which you claim does not fall into one of them. This does indeed make it impossible for me to demonstrate the factualness of my claim with regard to your particular reasoning.
Fourth, I certainly am angry as is every other sane patriotic person in this country. If the notion that the founding principles of this country are truly beautiful and that those who want to destroy them are people who are either deluding themselves or insane is radical, then I'm a radical. I prefer the term patriot though. Although when the leaders are traitors, patriotism is radical.
The way you have summed up everyone who disagrees with your beliefs reminds me of a child that simply declares that everyone who disagrees is wrong, then covers their ears and screams la la la la la la.
Well, then you need to think it through a little better. Think of it more as how analysis can lead one to divide the integers up into even and odd or negative and positive. Rather than spout off a bunch of ill thought out nonsense, all you have to do is demonstrate one single rational reason for supporting the current republican party that doesn't fall into one of those categories. If I'm truly so far out I would think that would be easy.
If you mean "pork", then "a plague on both their houses" is more accurate.
Certainly.
If you mean transfer of capital from one group to another through direct payments by the government, then the Republicans are not the worst perpetrators here.
Well, except that they are. Look at farm subsidies. Look at the fact that there is a very large net drain from the "blue states" to the "red states". In fact, with very few exceptions, the Red states economies depend entirely upon welfare from the blue states.
Additionally, I mean the latest energy bill, I mean the energy policy that was pushed through in darkened rooms which we are still not alloowed to know the details of. I mean this war which was a gift to the oil companies and Haliburton.
First, take a moment to consider the context in which I was replying. It was an ill-considered troll feeding moment, and the GP's rhetorical silliness (traitors in the White House, neo-cons destroying space shuttles, our horrible economy, blah blah)
Certainly the space shuttle garbage was what tipped the comment off as a troll.
You would be very hard pressed to argue that there are not traitors in the white house though. The demonstrated fact of Rove's treason aside, the simple fact that our national energy policy was set in closed meetings which we, the ignorant masses are *still to this day* not allowed to know the details of and which included Ken Lay is one of the most blatant acts of treason ever commited in this country. That was Cheney with Bush's express approval. Can you provide an honest reasoned argument that this is not treason? A free country depends absolutely upon an open, transparent government. This administration has done more than any (that I am aware of... certainly more than any in recent decades) other to eradicate transparency and to deny the people their ability to engage in that most patriotic of acts....watching their government's actions.
Add in their blatant media manipulation with the rape of the FOIA, with their replacement of actual scientists in various departments with industry shills, and you have what is known as fascism. What else could you possibly call that?!?
How is even attempting to prevent the people from being able to watch the government (barring nuclear secrets, troop movements, and *actual* issues of national security) anything but treason???
We truly, acually, really are dealing with issues that could make the economic and social impact of 9/11 look trivial, and I have an interest in at least attempting to squash the "traitors in the White House" silliness
I agree that we are dealing with serious issues. We diverge where what you call "silliness" is in actuality fact as demonstrated by my argument above. I feel that the last person who could be capable of actually dealing with the issues is one who hasn't got a shred of integrity left. From the people who he has surrounded himself with to the fact that he promotes those who have demonstrated the *least* competence to the fact that he is actively working against government transparancy and freedom in this country to his blatant lies while selling the Iraq war to his complete and utterly blatant disregard for the opinion of half of this country while claiming a mandate to his blatant violation of his oath of office by promoting an amendment to the constitution for the explicit purpose of discriminating against a group of people based solely upon blind hatred to the fact that his argument in favor of that and his argument in the Schiavo matter were diametrically opposed demonstrating pure hypocrisy.
All of these things together make him utterly useless in rational negotiations and diplomacy, and further he has taken America's name, integrity, honor, and standing in the world and dragged it down to probably its lowest level ever.
There is no greater force for democracy and liberty, right now, this minute, than the U.S., warts and all.
As I said this is an arguable point, but it is not a simple argument, and it is in no way clear that it is true. I can argue that Chavez is actually a far stronger force in this direction than the US. Not trying to convince you that it's true or even that I believe it but to sketch a reasonable argument:
He stands as an example of how by rejecting the World Bank and the IMF's standard policies he has managed to have his country's economy not be devestated. He stands as proof of the (really quite obvious) idea that selling off your entire country's critical infrastructure to foreign businesses will put you in a hole that you may well never be able to climb out of and that by not doing so, you will be in far better shape. Further because he stands as a clear reminder that IMF/WB policies are a
Because the US is the single greatest defender of democracy in the history of the world.
Come on now, Dude. I often disagree with what you say, but you generally make good points and back them up with rational thought but this is so far over the top it is completely ridiculous.
I mean whether or not we are is certainly an arguable point (although many coups and American trained death squads are certainly tough to argue around), but that that is the reason we were attacked is so far beyond wrong that is has passed far beyond the realm of sanity. Seriously, you must know by this point in your life that pretty much nothing is that simple. While the US certainly isn't alone in culpability and we weren't even involved when the shit started in the middle east, the simple basic unarguable historical facts demonstrate absolutely that that blatant neo-con agenda pushing sound bite is false. You have no possible ground to argue that point, and you have certainly lowered my opinion of you (for whatever that is worth) by pushing a blatant lie created to promote an agenda established well before the attacks on us. My opinion aside, you *have* lowered yourself by doing so.
Ignore the *fact* that we have on numerous occasions helped to overthrow *Democratically elected* leaders for the purpose of installing brutal dictators in the interest of corporate profits.
Ignore the *fact* that due to this we are both directly and indirectly responsible for the brutal murder and torture of people all over the world whose only crime was trying to wrest self determination and democracy from the grip of these brutal dictators whose death squads *we trained*.
Ignore the fact that we are right now propping up the brutal dictatorial regime in Saudi Arabia that *funded the fucking terrorists who attacked us*.
Sure, ignore these basic, absolutely established facts, ignore all of human history, ignore everything you know about human nature, and ignore everything you know specifically about the members of the current administration. Once you throw all of that aside, then sure, they hate us for our freedom.
Given your history of rational argument, unless somebody hijacked your account, what you have demonstrated is known as cognitive dissonance.
The idea that anybody could, at this point, still attempt to defend this administration is bizarre enough. The fact that an ordinarilly well-reasoned person such as yourself does it and to do so has to resort to demonstrably insane arguments to do so is a clear indicator of how far this nation has fallen away from our founding principles.
It really saddens me, but you have through your own actons and with malice aforethought destroyed all the respect that I had for you (again, for whatever that's worth. )
It always good to keep the emergency binaries around on a critical server:
Nice!. Thanks.
I only had problems with that when I ran out of disc space on/var, but even then portage aborted before merging.
Hmmm... It was step 20 something out of 80 something, so the previous steps had completed. Possibly/var is full, but I can't check until I get down there and boot off the live CD.
The only problem I have is when somebody defends something or someone with the "it's legal, so it is okay" argument.
Well, hopefully for consistency's sake you also have a problem when people use the "it's illegal, so it's not ok" argument as well. I think that one is at least as retarded, usually much more so.
I had a machine swapping itself to dead on a glibc compile...
Bleagh. I just killed one of our servers on a glibc compile (well, as part of emerge -uD world). It's being repurposed, so we decided to update it. Halfway through the glibc compile it decided that/var/lib/portage was a read only filesystem. Now, ls, vi, top, df, mount etc etc etc all return I/O errors. Of course reboot and shutdown do the same thing:-(
Luckily it's supposed to be a mirror of another machine that made it past that part so I'll just clone that one next time I go out to the cage.
I don't think you've ever installed OpenBSD;-) Easiest install ever. It's text based, but the installer holds your hand and walks you through it. I replaced my firewall because the NICs were failing and I had an extra machine. It took me 30 minutes before the new one was up and running NAT, Port forwarding for my web server, reverse proxy to hit said web server from inside etc. and that includes figuring out the changes in pf.conf (and the fact that nat.conf was merged into it.)
It was just as easy when I originally built the other machine 3 or 4 years ago.
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I'm getting the impression that the higher-modded posts want companies like Accuweather to just "go away".
If by "companies like Accuweather", you mean companies that take freely available information and use it to provide a useful service which some might then choose to pay for, then your impression is all wrong.
If by "companies like Accuweather", you mean companies that use the government to take freely available information away from the public so that only they have access to it while still making the public pay to collect it, and then charge the public again for access which we already paid for, then yes absolutely I want them to go away.
If you can come up with any sane sort of reason that companies that attempt such utterly disgusting actions should be allowed to exist, then I'm all ears.
I am sick of the G-D Damned government wasting money that they have taken from me at gunpoint.
So your assertion is that it's not ok to rob us all at gunpoint and give us something back for that money (whether or not you agree that you got full value).
Yet you think that it *is* ok to rob us all at gunpoint and then give the benefits to a corporation who will then charge us again?
I'm sure that you understand how insane that sounds?
-- Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Wrong on so many levels.
Liberalism is the grand intellectual accomplishment of the enlightenement. It's fundamental essence was boiled down to one sentence:
"We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal."
It's no surprise that people who seek to benefit financially and criminally at the expense of others e.g. execs at GM, Monsanto etc. enjoy pushing that type of blind ignorant hatred of real American values, but how they manage to rope in those like yourself who are just more victims is amazing to me.
Keep in mind folks, anybody who decries Liberalism is shouting their utter contempt for the foundation of America.
Hitting a moose is much, much worse, most cars are too low and just take out the legs (and then the body takes out the occupants).
I was driving along one day minding my own business when a big freaking brown bear ran across the freeway in front of me. I just had to take my foot off the gas to avoid him as there was plenty of room and I didn't need to slam on the brakes or anything, but I was driving a Honda CRX at the time and if I had hit him (doing 70 or so) I doubt there would have been much left except some twisted metal and a slightly annoyed bear.
The Bears? I thought WI had the Packers?
;-)
They do. That's why the Bears are so comfortable there
There's a difference between voting for republicans and supporting the current Republican party.
If you believe that, then you know nothing about what a party is, why they exist, or what they do.
I disagree with much of the upper echelon of the Republican party. I voted for many (not all) Republican candidates in my district / senators in my state because I believe their vision differs somewhat from some of the detestable portions of the party.
Again the naiveity is startling.
They back the party and the (Republican) president on what the party tells them to or they are not allowed to run as a representative of that party.
If you don't like any of the Policies and goals of the Republican party, which at this point include:
Hatred of gays
Destruction of the middle class by robbing them and handing the money directly to very profitable corporations
Instituting fascism in the US
Lying to the American people to start unnecessary wars for the purposes of enriching the very rich at the expense of everybody else.
Shoving a bastardized version of christianity down everybody's throat
If you disagree with any of these policies and goals then you can not under any circumstances vote for a Republican for any federal office.
If you do vote that way, then regardless of what you say you believe or even what you think you believe you are endorsing those activities.
It doesn't matter one shit what they say they believe in. They will toe the party line. They have already seen what happens to those who don't.
Were there a scrap of integrity in the Republican party, Bush would have been impeached and imprisoned years ago.
I voted for a republican candidate because I believe he was better suited to handle economic problems.
You are flat out wrong.
Ever since Reagan, the Republican party has waged an all out war on the poor and middle class. What the fuck do you think "supply side economics" is?
I voted for him because he came from a cultural background that would keep him tolerant of the cultural changes that are going on in my state and in the country as a whole.
So you support the poisoning of the culture with religious hatred?
You support blind ignorant hatred of gays?
You support robbing the people blind to give the money to the very richest?
You support labling anybody who disagrees with the president a traitor and a terrorist supporter?
You support the rape of the bill of rights and the FOIA?
Those are the cultural changes going on in our country. We had moved far ahead as a people and your people are fighting tooth and nail to drag us back.
But you support that.
I have my reasons and they are not of cowardice, foolishness, or sociopathic.
But they quite obviously do fall directly under foolishness (voting for a Republican for fiscal reasons) and sociopathy (promoting destruction of decades of cultural advances for the purpose of hatred)
I mean WTF dude?
No, it really is very simple.
;-)
Basically all it does is say:
If it looks like this or like this or like this.......then it's a number.
So the *algorithm* is really simple.
Knock yourself out implementing it in some other language that you find non-ugly and then it will be both. Doing that doesn't make it any simpler although it might make it easier to read.
Better yet, just compile the perl code and it will look much nicer
You could make it even more realistic by having a few important messages hidden in the bunch, containing a code he needs to gain access to the meal etc.
Go back and read the second paragraph that you quoted. That was exactly his idea.
I mean arent bar codes really obvious? But well. Not so much, until you have them.
Given that the idea of codes goes back at least as far as Julius Caesar, I'd say yes it is obvious. It's just another code.
Now, the idea that you can use a mechanical device to read those codes and have them uniquely associated with actual items is fairly novel at least.
Put it together in a working model, and then (and only then ) you have something worth allowing a patent on.
Fair enough.
I was listening to some old MDC (80s punk band) recently and that was one of the lines from one song. That quote stuck in my head as amazingly perceptive given that it's 20+ years old now.
Well, I hoped for it and I got it :-)
Thanks. You're probably a real nice person to live around.
It's people like you that polarize the electorate and make political discourse like brothers arguing over who can swallow more goldfish.
Hardly. I put forward a statement that I am convinced is a fact. I am offering an opportunity to all comers to come up with one possible situation that does not neatly fit those facts. Nobody has yet endeavored to do so.
The whole fucking country was polarized by the Republican hate machine (Rush, Hannity, Coulter etc. etc. etc.)'s dedication to the poisoning of public discourse long ago.
I don't have the ability to throw you off of this thread for stating a non extremist right wing viewpoint unlike those I mentioned.
It's not that simple.
In general, I agree with you.
In this case, you're wrong.
If you don't think so, all you have to do is come up with one possible rational sane argument to support the current Republican party. Is it really that hard? Well, of course. That's my point.
You have whined like a little bitch, but you have offered nothing to refute it.
Sorry, I've not only seen no such demonstration, I've heard quite a lot of information to the contrary, not least from people who work in the same organization as the woman in question (I live in the DC area - unless you're a complete basement dweller, it's hard not to make at least some friends in that arena).
I don't live in that area, so while I'm not a basement dweller, I have no such insights. I know that he has been fingered as the person who released that information. I also know a fair bit about his history, which is among the sleaziest in the sleaziest of all professions.
Given that there is nobody else (well, besides our enemies) who would benefit by the release of that information I'm really at a loss as to who else it could be especially given the administrations complete stonewall on it. So proven in a court of law? Never happen with this administration. Proven to me. Yep.
Treason, in my mind, is more like using the last few minutes of your time in office as president to dole out presidential pardons to fugitive millionaires with family members that have promised to help finance your legacy library in Little Rock.
Wow, I was really hoping it wouldn't even go to DvR
I hate both parties. Their very existence is completely contary to what this country could be. They exist solely to game the system.
Clinton is gone now, and Kerry never was.
The Bush family though is quite possibly the worst possible choice.
Good old Prescott was almost brought up on the treason charges he richly earned by trading with the Nazis while we were at war with them.
George senior was head of the CIA when Kennedy was assassinated. I certainly have no new information on that particular incident, but it is certainly critical that the details of that become public knowledge yet the records are sealed until everybody involved is dead. Again, I have no particular speculations, but if there is anybody in the world who would know the details he's it.
And given that you live in that area, you must know more than most that knowledge is power.
Then you have the fact that he was essentially president while Reagan was in office since Reagan was a vegetable. What happened there? Torture schools in Central America, various terrorists funded, trained and supplied (wow, including those who we're at "war" with now), the CIA taking an active role in the interntional cocaine trade (seriously check their website), trading drugs for weapons to sell to more terrorists since they couldn't get the money from congress to do it.
What happened? Well, good old George senior pardoned them all. Now they're making millions doing radio shows (Ollie North), or given control over Total information awareness (Poindexter... oh right, that went away when it didn't get the right approval numbers..sure it did).
Or good lord (different area of crime, but..) Henry mother fucking "The illegal we do right away the unconstitutional takes a kittle longer" can't leave the god damned country because he would get prosecuted for crimes against humanity in several countries and rightly so Kissenger was the first choice to head up quite possibly the single most important investigation in the history of this nation.
Then you have the S&L scandal. Oh good lord what do you know. Bushes galore were neck deep in that.
That was billions (some would put it at over a trillion) dollars stolen from you, me and everybody else. Wow, again nothing happens.
Then you have the 2000 elections. Well, if you can still defend any Bush at this point, you clearly haven't looked very deeply into what went on there.
So Clinton? Kerry?
If I knew nothing about them and you called them scum, I would not disagree based solely upon the nature of the system.
But three generations of organized, well orchestrated treason.... the comparison is nonexistant.
Personally I don't care how many meetings an executive branch official has as they form their personal opinions about how to for
Anyone who voted PERIOD is in category 2.
I disagree.
I will say that anybody who expected it to make much of a difference probably falls there though.
Anyone that thinks one party is morally better than the other is clearly in category 2 (and possibly 3).
Interesting, but again I see a difference even though it is a far smaller one than should be expected by any decent citizen of a free country.
The democrats are owned primarily by the movie and music industries. Granted they are completely sickening fascist fucks.
The Republicans are owned by the oil and weapons industries who use murder to increase profit.
There is (in my mind) a slight moral difference between the crimes their respective owners compel their tools to commit.
I don't see how your hatred of Republicans makes you patriotic.
It doesn't.
The voting public re-elected Bush, who's name probably makes you vomit with rage because you are a loud mouth who can't keep yourself from forcing your opinion down the throats of anyone who diagrees.
Wow. your delusional understanding of reality is astounding. Posting what I am stating is a fact on a website == forcing my opinion down somwbody's throat?!?
Put down the glass pipe and step away from the crack rock.
The public voted for who they want. You call them a group of stupid cowardly sociopaths.
Half of the voting population voted for who we're currently burdened with.
A fairly large number of them have realised what a horrendous mistake they made.
The rest, I did call exactly that.
You have as yet been unable to actually present an argument to contradict that.
Why is your opinion any more valid than that of those who voted Republican
I've put a great deal of thought into ti.
Again, it's not people who voted that way that I'm talking about.
It's just those who can look at what that has caused and still think that was the right decision regardless of who they voted for or even if they did vote.
or even those of George W. Bush himself?
Because he is a liar, a coward, and a traitor.. Additionally his "opinions" are not even consistent, let alone defensible.
I am not a Republican, but I certainly have many close, intelligent, brave, and sane friends who are so I take personal offense to your blatantly ignorant statement.
Then rather than make some wild ignorant rant, why not put forward one of their arguments for being such (that presumably you don't find convincing yet don't feel fits one of those categories) and prove me incorrect? Heck, that way rather than being "offended" like a little bitch you could actually demonstrate a grasp of human nature and current events?
think the main problem in this country and probably in the world is people like you, people who immediately write off anyone who has a different opinion as being wrong, and not just wrong, they are stupid, cowardly, and insane. You offer no proof to support any of your radically generalized claims, which leads me to believe that you yourself are nothing more than an angry radical with an axe to grind.
Well, you are completely off base on all of your assumptions.
First, I didn't immediately do anything.
This is a conclusion that I have reached over many years.
Second, it has nothing to do with whether or not somebody agrees with me or not. It has to do with hearing various cases of faulty reasoning over and over and managing to fit each and every one of them into one (or more) of these categories.
Third, while I didn't offer any proof of my claim since proving a claim such as that in general is impossible, I did offer to demonstrate how any particular such reason fits into one of those categories. You failed to actually offer any possible explanation which you claim does not fall into one of them. This does indeed make it impossible for me to demonstrate the factualness of my claim with regard to your particular reasoning.
Fourth, I certainly am angry as is every other sane patriotic person in this country. If the notion that the founding principles of this country are truly beautiful and that those who want to destroy them are people who are either deluding themselves or insane is radical, then I'm a radical.
I prefer the term patriot though.
Although when the leaders are traitors, patriotism is radical.
The way you have summed up everyone who disagrees with your beliefs reminds me of a child that simply declares that everyone who disagrees is wrong, then covers their ears and screams la la la la la la.
Well, then you need to think it through a little better.
Think of it more as how analysis can lead one to divide the integers up into even and odd or negative and positive.
Rather than spout off a bunch of ill thought out nonsense, all you have to do is demonstrate one single rational reason for supporting the current republican party that doesn't fall into one of those categories. If I'm truly so far out I would think that would be easy.
If you mean "pork", then "a plague on both their houses" is more accurate.
Certainly.
If you mean transfer of capital from one group to another through direct payments by the government, then the Republicans are not the worst perpetrators here.
Well, except that they are.
Look at farm subsidies.
Look at the fact that there is a very large net drain from the "blue states" to the "red states".
In fact, with very few exceptions, the Red states economies depend entirely upon welfare from the blue states.
Additionally, I mean the latest energy bill, I mean the energy policy that was pushed through in darkened rooms which we are still not alloowed to know the details of.
I mean this war which was a gift to the oil companies and Haliburton.
First, take a moment to consider the context in which I was replying. It was an ill-considered troll feeding moment, and the GP's rhetorical silliness (traitors in the White House, neo-cons destroying space shuttles, our horrible economy, blah blah)
Certainly the space shuttle garbage was what tipped the comment off as a troll.
You would be very hard pressed to argue that there are not traitors in the white house though. The demonstrated fact of Rove's treason aside, the simple fact that our national energy policy was set in closed meetings which we, the ignorant masses are *still to this day* not allowed to know the details of and which included Ken Lay is one of the most blatant acts of treason ever commited in this country. That was Cheney with Bush's express approval. Can you provide an honest reasoned argument that this is not treason? A free country depends absolutely upon an open, transparent government. This administration has done more than any
(that I am aware of... certainly more than any in recent decades) other to eradicate transparency and to deny the people their ability to engage in that most patriotic of acts....watching their government's actions.
Add in their blatant media manipulation with the rape of the FOIA, with their replacement of actual scientists in various departments with industry shills, and you have what is known as fascism.
What else could you possibly call that?!?
How is even attempting to prevent the people from being able to watch the government (barring nuclear secrets, troop movements, and *actual* issues of national security) anything but treason???
We truly, acually, really are dealing with issues that could make the economic and social impact of 9/11 look trivial, and I have an interest in at least attempting to squash the "traitors in the White House" silliness
I agree that we are dealing with serious issues. We diverge where what you call "silliness" is in actuality fact as demonstrated by my argument above.
I feel that the last person who could be capable of actually dealing with the issues is one who hasn't got a shred of integrity left. From the people who he has surrounded himself with to the fact that he promotes those who have demonstrated the *least* competence to the fact that he is actively working against government transparancy and freedom in this country to his blatant lies while selling the Iraq war to his complete and utterly blatant disregard for the opinion of half of this country while claiming a mandate to his blatant violation of his oath of office by promoting an amendment to the constitution for the explicit purpose of discriminating against a group of people based solely upon blind hatred to the fact that his argument in favor of that and his argument in the Schiavo matter were diametrically opposed demonstrating pure hypocrisy.
All of these things together make him utterly useless in rational negotiations and diplomacy, and further he has taken America's name, integrity, honor, and standing in the world and dragged it down to probably its lowest level ever.
There is no greater force for democracy and liberty, right now, this minute, than the U.S., warts and all.
As I said this is an arguable point, but it is not a simple argument, and it is in no way clear that it is true.
I can argue that Chavez is actually a far stronger force in this direction than the US. Not trying to convince you that it's true or even that I believe it but to sketch a reasonable argument:
He stands as an example of how by rejecting the World Bank and the IMF's standard policies he has managed to have his country's economy not be devestated. He stands as proof of the
(really quite obvious) idea that selling off your entire country's critical infrastructure to foreign businesses will put you in a hole that you may well never be able to climb out of and that by not doing so, you will be in far better shape.
Further because he stands as a clear reminder that IMF/WB policies are a
You fórgòt thôsé othër oñês.
;-)
Now, I challenge you to actually pronounce that sentence
No. There are at this point exactly three possible reasons that somebody could vote Republican:
Me? I am sick of entitlements.
And so you vote for the party *most* commited to them?!?
That puts you squarely in category 2.
If anybody else doubts this, let's hear your reasons. It's really pretty simple to put them in one or more of those categories.
Why were we attack on 9/11
Because the US is the single greatest defender of democracy in the history of the world.
Come on now, Dude.
I often disagree with what you say, but you generally make good points and back them up with rational thought but this is so far over the top it is completely ridiculous.
I mean whether or not we are is certainly an arguable point (although many coups and American trained death squads are certainly tough to argue around), but that that is the reason we were attacked is so far beyond wrong that is has passed far beyond the realm of sanity. Seriously, you must know by this point in your life that pretty much nothing is that simple. While the US certainly isn't alone in culpability and we weren't even involved when the shit started in the middle east, the simple basic unarguable historical facts demonstrate absolutely that that blatant neo-con agenda pushing sound bite is false. You have no possible ground to argue that point, and you have certainly lowered my opinion of you (for whatever that is worth) by pushing a blatant lie created to promote an agenda established well before the attacks on us. My opinion aside, you *have* lowered yourself by doing so.
Ignore the *fact* that we have on numerous occasions helped to overthrow *Democratically elected* leaders for the purpose of installing brutal dictators in the interest of corporate profits.
Ignore the *fact* that due to this we are both directly and indirectly responsible for the brutal murder and torture of people all over the world whose only crime was trying to wrest self determination and democracy from the grip of these brutal dictators whose death squads *we trained*.
Ignore the fact that we are right now propping up the brutal dictatorial regime in Saudi Arabia that *funded the fucking terrorists who attacked us*.
Sure, ignore these basic, absolutely established facts, ignore all of human history, ignore everything you know about human nature, and ignore everything you know specifically about the members of the current administration. Once you throw all of that aside, then sure, they hate us for our freedom.
Given your history of rational argument, unless somebody hijacked your account, what you have demonstrated is known as cognitive dissonance.
The idea that anybody could, at this point, still attempt to defend this administration is bizarre enough. The fact that an ordinarilly well-reasoned person such as yourself does it and to do so has to resort to demonstrably insane arguments to do so is a clear indicator of how far this nation has fallen away from our founding principles.
It really saddens me, but you have through your own actons and with malice aforethought destroyed all the respect that I had for you (again, for whatever that's worth.
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You probably mean /var/tmp/portage.
;-)
/var, but even then portage aborted before merging.
/var is full, but I can't check until I get down there and boot off the live CD.
Yep, I probably did
It always good to keep the emergency binaries around on a critical server:
Nice!. Thanks.
I only had problems with that when I ran out of disc space on
Hmmm... It was step 20 something out of 80 something, so the previous steps had completed. Possibly
Thanks for the advice!
The only problem I have is when somebody defends something or someone with the "it's legal, so it is okay" argument.
Well, hopefully for consistency's sake you also have a problem when people use the "it's illegal, so it's not ok" argument as well. I think that one is at least as retarded, usually much more so.
I had a machine swapping itself to dead on a glibc compile ...
/var/lib/portage was a read only filesystem. :-(
Bleagh. I just killed one of our servers on a glibc compile (well, as part of emerge -uD world). It's being repurposed, so we decided to update it. Halfway through the glibc compile it decided that
Now, ls, vi, top, df, mount etc etc etc all return I/O errors.
Of course reboot and shutdown do the same thing
Luckily it's supposed to be a mirror of another machine that made it past that part so I'll just clone that one next time I go out to the cage.
Any ideas why that would happen?
I think you confuse Gentoo with OpenBSD.
;-) Easiest install ever. It's text based, but the installer holds your hand and walks you through it.
I don't think you've ever installed OpenBSD
I replaced my firewall because the NICs were failing and I had an extra machine. It took me 30 minutes before the new one was up and running NAT, Port forwarding for my web server, reverse proxy to hit said web server from inside etc. and that includes figuring out the changes in pf.conf (and the fact that nat.conf was merged into it.)
It was just as easy when I originally built the other machine 3 or 4 years ago.