My position is and always has been that Iraq did have WMD's (see the Kurds)
Certainly, at one point, they did have them. Where did they get them? I'm sure you know, but will try to dodge the question. The well documented fact is that the US gave them these weapons and then sat back and watched when they were used against the Kurds.
The idea that they still had any is wholly without evidence. The fact that Bush had to use blatant lies to try and convince the American people that such evidence existed demonstrates that he is the enemy of America. By your ignorant support of such lies, you are the one bashing America. Disagreeing with the actions of Bush is not an anti American attitude in any way. It is, in fact, the only choice open to a patriot. Please stop your treasonous America bashing. You and your type are an embarrasment to this great country.
I state at the outset - I have utmost faith in our Supreme Court. I have my beliefs as to the nature of the law, but they outweigh me by a few orders of collected experience. If they say I'm wrong, then I fully respect that as a new precendent guiding the interpretation of the First Amendment.
Since the 1880s, in our country, Corporations are afforded basically the same Rights and Protections as an individual citizen.
I am truly amazed at the doublethink you show yourself to be capable of with these two statements.
Do you honestly think that it was a good thing to give an amoral legal fiction the rights of a citizen without the responsibilities?
It has proven to be good for a very few at the top of some corporations, but almost universally bad for the actual flesh and blood citizens.
I have never bought anything from a telemarketer or a spammer. I will never do so under any circumstances. If I feel I need or want something, I am a big boy and fully capable of finding what it is and where to get it. I do not want anybody contacting me for commercial purposes. Ever.
Commercial speech is different from non-commercial speech. If I hang a sign on my gate saying "Private property. No soliciting", then it had damn well better be respected as is my right.
A do not call list is the same thing.
And yes, if you can't guess, I *am* a fanatical defender of the First Amendment, for good or ill, and will fight, simply on general principle, any attempt to bend it further unless incontrovertable evidence of the need is shown to me.
Actually, I can't guess. You are not defending a person's right to free speech, you are defending the right of a legal fiction to invade my privacy in an attempt to benefit themselves with no possibility whatsoever of benefitting me.
The supreme court did decide that corporations should have more rights than you and I (Same rights, less responsibility = more rights). Unlike you, I am aware of the fact that the supreme court is fallible and clearly made a horrendous mistake in this case. You said that you think they can do no wrong and all their decisions should be respected regardless since they have more legal training than you. That is a statement I would expect of a subject rather than a citizen.
On the subject of people appreciating the intellectial hero, one must not forget the IMMENSE popularity of Sherlock Holmes, who was persuaded to not die spectacularly in a waterfall thanks to the love for him by the public.
Actually, he did die. The book, "Exit Sherlock Holmes", was written by one of my high school english teachers.
He bought the rights and wrote the book in which he killed Holmes off.
He also told one of the students (who ended up going to MIT ) that she needed to "relax once in a while, maybe smoke a joint".
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they would have TOBEY MCGUIRE or LEO cast as the DOCTOR.
Tobey is too young to be the doctor, but he might do ok as a companion.
He might actually do well as the Master, but prolly too young for that as well.
We work with a large organization that is ran by the city, (Names withheld because they are all idiots, every fucking one of them.)
This is about the worst part of business/government relationships. I'm not suggesting you release the names, since you will have need to eat at some point in the rest of your life, but your reason for withholding the names is the best reason for releasing them;-)
"there isn't a major media organization in this country that has the slightest hint of a liberal leaning in at least 20 years." Holy Mother of God, I didn't realize/. reached that far. (I mean, to make a statement like this, you CAN'T be from this planet.)
You say that, but you didn't address my points demonstrating it.
Maybe you shouldn't get all your beliefs from what you are told to believe.
To say things like "the whole gay marriage issue doesn't exist on the political spectrum" - maybe you need a little more oxygen?
Again you ignored my points demonstrating this. It is used by politicians to stir up support from people who are too cowardly to be able to deal with a free society. What does it have to do with Providing for the common defense and promoting the general welfare?
We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal. Everything else branches out from there.
Every article was critical of the US establishment.
Which has what to do with left/right politics? The current administration is made up of lying thieving traitors. Anybody with a scrap of patriotism left in them is critical of this administration.
Which is why newspapers and TV back Democratic candidates 10 to 1?
Facts? Figures?
The democrats in this country are far right as well, but at least they pay lip service to freedom, as opposed to Bush who perverts it to manipulate the people into giving it up.
Unless you consider Democrats AND Repulblicans, for whom 95+% of Americans vote, to be right of center, then you're off your rocker.
They both are. try actually arguing the point rather than merely denying.
And at that point, I'd say your definition of center is egocentric, because it contains only you.
Not at all.
Two points on a continuium which are right next to each other do not represent 95% of people even though they don't think there is anybody else to vote for.
The 2 party system is totally incompatible with freedom.
Secondly, that anti-Americanism you talk about is 90% fostered and fomented by liberals who hate capitalism, and dictators who see it as a psychological weapon they can wield to maintain their power.
No, it's fostered by the Patriotic Americans who are sick of seeing lying scumbags robbing and raping the rest of the world and the rest of our own fucking country to make them and their buddies richer.
Please pull your head out of your ass, inform yourself and come up with something which isn't a lie.
While I support gay marriage. "equal protection" could be interpreted to mean that even gay men have the same right to marry women that straight men do.
Not by anybody with a scrap of integrity. Marriage is a legal institution. It provides benefits to people who sign a piece of paper. Saying that 2 adults are not allowed to sign this piece of paper because of who they are and hence denying them benefits which they are paying for because some religious lunatics who don't even know what the man they worship said don't like it is quite clearly an anti-American action.
I fail to see how this could be interpreted differently.
Gay marriage is most certainly a liberal agenda, even though I support it.
It is an agenda item for the Political parties, but only because the republican party membership includes a large number of psychopathic religious extremists. The same type of people who we are supposedly at war with. The fact that the Democratic party is sticking up for America on this point and the Republican party is fighting tooth and nail against freedom and America on this point does not make it a liberal issue.
It means that in the interest of getting as many votes as possible, the Republicans have chosen to engage in treason to keep a small yet loud part of their constituency voting for them.
Now, I'm not saying the Democrats are better in general, but at least they are acting like decent human beings on this issue rather than sub human monsters.
I'm sure you could find an issue which goes the other way, but again, that wouldn't make that a "conservative issue." It would mean that the Democrats are using an emotional issue to get people riled up to vote for them. If rather than get riled up, they were decent Americans and decent human beings, they would have the courage to let other people live their lives.
Just because political parties use things to fire up the worst scum among our populace does not lend the issues they use any place on the left-right political spectrum. It just demonstrates how much they are the enemies of America.
I would point out that the New York Times has been slanting stories strongly to the left for what, a CENTURY more than Fox has even existed?
If you actually were able to pull your head out of your ass and look around, you would find that there isn't a major media organization in this country that has the slightest hint of a liberal leaning in at least 20 years.
It's nice to see you bleating the bullshit you've been fed.
Good Subject.
Now please shut the fuck up so us *Citizens* can have a rational discussion.
No, but when EVERY one of those "censored" stories clearly have the same agenda (ie, being miles left of center), it is fair to assume that the site's reporting is pretty highly slanted.
In point of fact, those articles are quite clearly right in the middle. It's a sad fact that the media in this country is slanted so far to the right that you could actually say something like that and not choke to death on laughter.
Disagreeing with a Republican president isn't "left" just as disagreeing with a Democratic president isn't "right"
For example, the whole gay marriage issue doesn't exist on the political spectrum. "We hold these truths to be self evident-- that all men are created equal." That is the fundamental principle upon which this country is based. When Bush publicly spoke out against gay marriage, he was not expressing a right leaning political viewpoint, he was commiting an act of treason given his oath to defend the constitution.
Issues like that are not left or right, they are Pro-American pro-freedom, or Anti-American anti freedom.
The fact that Bush was proven to have lied about every one of his justifications for the invasion of Iraq, yet the press isn't screaming for his head is absolute proof that the media in this country isn't anywhere near the center.
Both science and religion are essential to our culture and civilization.
You were doing ok up to here. Religion is in no way essential for anything good. If it went away the world would indisputably be a better place.
Both are equally valid fields of study.
Of course they are not. There is really nothing to study in most religions. God said this, do it or burn. Why did he say it?--- Don't ask. This thing he said is contradicted by fact.--- Burn, Heretic.
Incidentally, atheism can be called a religion too, being the belief that there is no God.
Now you are just making yourself look like a fool. This has been demonstrated over and over to be a lie. Religious zealots like to repeat the lie, but it doesn't make it true. You, I, the Pope, and every other person on the planet was born an atheist. It is the natural state of a human being. Just because some people choose to believe something without any evidence whatsoever, does not mean that the people who prefer not to accept crazy ideas without any evidence are making a religion out of not believing the same things you do. You give yourself far too much credit to think we give a shit what sort of delusion you choose to live your life under. When the zealots try to shove it down our throats is when we start to get pissed off. America was founded with freedom of religion with the express intent of protecting the citizenry *from* Christians. The founding fathers knew too well how much they like to burn people alive who disagree with them.
The universe was shit out of the ass of a large rabbit.
Do you believe this? If not, then you just started your own religion according to your severely lacking logical abilities.
and yet, scientists like you dismiss the Existance of God without nary a thought.
you cant have it both ways... but I am 100% sure that nobody has proof that God does not exist.
The fundamental fallacy in your thinking is that you are assuming that there is a god, hence it is a reasonable suggestion.
Were there any evedence whatsoever of your magical invisible friend, then proving, disproving, what have you would be relevant.
As it is, everybody is born an atheist. Some people are told to believe that there is this magical, invisible, creature who made everything, yet refuses to provide a single scrap of evidence.
Some people swallow this since it makes them feel better since they, for whatever reason, aren't content with themselves and their lives.
Other people say, "umm... ok... sure. Do you have any idea how silly that sounds?"
Just because you propose some thing doesn't, in any way, lend it legitimacy.
Here: The universe was shit out of the ass of a giant rabbit.
Prove it isn't true.
Your belief is exactly as likely and as legitimate as my statement.
You choose to believe one of them without a reason, yet I suspect that you reject my rabbit theory.
According to your statements your rejection of this is a religious belief.
Posting from China, where I am to adopt my daughter! Back to the US in a week!
Congratulations! I thought there was the great firewall of China? Did you hack through it to post this? Are you in an "American" hotel and the rules are different? What's the story?
A large number of cops are bad people. Mean people. People who have no business having any authority over other people.
The criminal *industry* of which they are a part is making bank the more things they can succesfully lobby illegal.
It doesn't matter if you fucking like them or not.
I think that you'll find that it does. At least if you give a squirt of shit about these things us Patriots like to call Freedom, The Constitution, America.
Defending guilty people in a group because of the group they're in is contrary to the principles of the country I love.
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My position is and always has been that Iraq did have WMD's (see the Kurds)
Certainly, at one point, they did have them.
Where did they get them?
I'm sure you know, but will try to dodge the question. The well documented fact is that the US gave them these weapons and then sat back and watched when they were used against the Kurds.
The idea that they still had any is wholly without evidence. The fact that Bush had to use blatant lies to try and convince the American people that such evidence existed demonstrates that he is the enemy of America. By your ignorant support of such lies, you are the one bashing America. Disagreeing with the actions of Bush is not an anti American attitude in any way. It is, in fact, the only choice open to a patriot. Please stop your treasonous America bashing. You and your type are an embarrasment to this great country.
I state at the outset - I have utmost faith in our Supreme Court. I have my beliefs as to the nature of the law, but they outweigh me by a few orders of collected experience. If they say I'm wrong, then I fully respect that as a new precendent guiding the interpretation of the First Amendment.
Since the 1880s, in our country, Corporations are afforded basically the same Rights and Protections as an individual citizen.
I am truly amazed at the doublethink you show yourself to be capable of with these two statements.
Do you honestly think that it was a good thing to give an amoral legal fiction the rights of a citizen without the responsibilities?
It has proven to be good for a very few at the top of some corporations, but almost universally bad for the actual flesh and blood citizens.
I have never bought anything from a telemarketer or a spammer. I will never do so under any circumstances. If I feel I need or want something, I am a big boy and fully capable of finding what it is and where to get it. I do not want anybody contacting me for commercial purposes. Ever.
Commercial speech is different from non-commercial speech. If I hang a sign on my gate saying "Private property. No soliciting", then it had damn well better be respected as is my right.
A do not call list is the same thing.
And yes, if you can't guess, I *am* a fanatical defender of the First Amendment, for good or ill, and will fight, simply on general principle, any attempt to bend it further unless incontrovertable evidence of the need is shown to me.
Actually, I can't guess.
You are not defending a person's right to free speech, you are defending the right of a legal fiction to invade my privacy in an attempt to benefit themselves with no possibility whatsoever of benefitting me.
The supreme court did decide that corporations should have more rights than you and I (Same rights, less responsibility = more rights). Unlike you, I am aware of the fact that the supreme court is fallible and clearly made a horrendous mistake in this case. You said that you think they can do no wrong and all their decisions should be respected regardless since they have more legal training than you. That is a statement I would expect of a subject rather than a citizen.
Holy shit man, he's close enough for me to swing by and KICK HIS ASS on the way to work!!!
Well, if you had no enthusiasm for getting up and going to work, I think you do now.
Give him a nice kick in the ribs for me please.
On the subject of people appreciating the intellectial hero, one must not forget the IMMENSE popularity of Sherlock Holmes, who was persuaded to not die spectacularly in a waterfall thanks to the love for him by the public.
Actually, he did die.
The book, "Exit Sherlock Holmes", was written by one of my high school english teachers.
He bought the rights and wrote the book in which he killed Holmes off.
He also told one of the students (who ended up going to MIT ) that she needed to "relax once in a while, maybe smoke a joint".
they would have TOBEY MCGUIRE or LEO cast as the DOCTOR.
Tobey is too young to be the doctor, but he might do ok as a companion.
He might actually do well as the Master, but prolly too young for that as well.
If the Red Sox actually do win the world series, then I had better get ready to skip into a different timestream to avoid catastrophe.
I think you need to watch out for the Cubbies this year.
How Earth shattering would that be, goat or no goat?
Yeah, I have a thing for pale, thin, english girls to this day,
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I'm just a nutty Cali boy who married one.
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We work with a large organization that is ran by the city, (Names withheld because they are all idiots, every fucking one of them.)
;-)
This is about the worst part of business/government relationships. I'm not suggesting you release the names, since you will have need to eat at some point in the rest of your life, but your reason for withholding the names is the best reason for releasing them
Best of luck.
It's "ingo", not "Ringo". But it is close enough to be scary.
OK, do you know what "lingo" means in Japanese?
(bad joke. It's America sue me.)
Thank you very much all you Apple iTunes downloaders, you just paid for the next Yoko Ono album!
In the name of all that is decent in this world I hope that is a joke with no basis in realty.
What do u use then? The vast majority of Apache installs are running Linux, BSD and some Sun.
I have heard of VERY few people running Apache on Windows. What's the point?
It sounds like his point is that Solaris and BSD are not Linux.
Sounds pretty obvious to me.
"there isn't a major media organization in this country that has the slightest hint of a liberal leaning in at least 20 years." /. reached that far. (I mean, to make a statement like this, you CAN'T be from this planet.)
Holy Mother of God, I didn't realize
You say that, but you didn't address my points demonstrating it.
Maybe you shouldn't get all your beliefs from what you are told to believe.
To say things like "the whole gay marriage issue doesn't exist on the political spectrum" - maybe you need a little more oxygen?
Again you ignored my points demonstrating this.
It is used by politicians to stir up support from people who are too cowardly to be able to deal with a free society.
What does it have to do with Providing for the common defense and promoting the general welfare?
Nothing.
Define middle.
We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal.
Everything else branches out from there.
Every article was critical of the US establishment.
Which has what to do with left/right politics?
The current administration is made up of lying thieving traitors.
Anybody with a scrap of patriotism left in them is critical of this administration.
Which is why newspapers and TV back Democratic candidates 10 to 1?
Facts? Figures?
The democrats in this country are far right as well, but at least they pay lip service to freedom, as opposed to Bush who perverts it to manipulate the people into giving it up.
Unless you consider Democrats AND Repulblicans, for whom 95+% of Americans vote, to be right of center, then you're off your rocker.
They both are. try actually arguing the point rather than merely denying.
And at that point, I'd say your definition of center is egocentric, because it contains only you.
Not at all.
Two points on a continuium which are right next to each other do not represent 95% of people even though they don't think there is anybody else to vote for.
The 2 party system is totally incompatible with freedom.
None of the individuals listed on the About PNAC page hold any position in our government, elected or appointed.
The major people involved with PNAC are now the Deputy Director of Defense and the Vice President.
Are you really so ignorant that you didn't know that?!?
Secondly, that anti-Americanism you talk about is 90% fostered and fomented by liberals who hate capitalism, and dictators who see it as a psychological weapon they can wield to maintain their power.
No, it's fostered by the Patriotic Americans who are sick of seeing lying scumbags robbing and raping the rest of the world and the rest of our own fucking country to make them and their buddies richer.
Please pull your head out of your ass, inform yourself and come up with something which isn't a lie.
How could this be the case? It's a private organization run by some fanatical nutjobs, not a department of our government.
Look at the people involved in it.
Now look at the current administration.
I think you will find that since the list of members overlap at the highest levels of our government that they do, in fact, run our government.
How could you possibly want to cling so tightly to your ignorance?
While I support gay marriage. "equal protection" could be interpreted to mean that even gay men have the same right to marry women that straight men do.
Not by anybody with a scrap of integrity.
Marriage is a legal institution. It provides benefits to people who sign a piece of paper.
Saying that 2 adults are not allowed to sign this piece of paper because of who they are and hence denying them benefits which they are paying for because some religious lunatics who don't even know what the man they worship said don't like it is quite clearly an anti-American action.
I fail to see how this could be interpreted differently.
Gay marriage is most certainly a liberal agenda, even though I support it.
It is an agenda item for the Political parties, but only because the republican party membership includes a large number of psychopathic religious extremists. The same type of people who we are supposedly at war with. The fact that the Democratic party is sticking up for America on this point and the Republican party is fighting tooth and nail against freedom and America on this point does not make it a liberal issue.
It means that in the interest of getting as many votes as possible, the Republicans have chosen to engage in treason to keep a small yet loud part of their constituency voting for them.
Now, I'm not saying the Democrats are better in general, but at least they are acting like decent human beings on this issue rather than sub human monsters.
I'm sure you could find an issue which goes the other way, but again, that wouldn't make that a "conservative issue." It would mean that the Democrats are using an emotional issue to get people riled up to vote for them. If rather than get riled up, they were decent Americans and decent human beings, they would have the courage to let other people live their lives.
Just because political parties use things to fire up the worst scum among our populace does not lend the issues they use any place on the left-right political spectrum. It just demonstrates how much they are the enemies of America.
I would point out that the New York Times has been slanting stories strongly to the left for what, a CENTURY more than Fox has even existed?
If you actually were able to pull your head out of your ass and look around, you would find that there isn't a major media organization in this country that has the slightest hint of a liberal leaning in at least 20 years.
It's nice to see you bleating the bullshit you've been fed.
Good Subject.
Now please shut the fuck up so us *Citizens* can have a rational discussion.
No, but when EVERY one of those "censored" stories clearly have the same agenda (ie, being miles left of center), it is fair to assume that the site's reporting is pretty highly slanted.
In point of fact, those articles are quite clearly right in the middle.
It's a sad fact that the media in this country is slanted so far to the right that you could actually say something like that and not choke to death on laughter.
Disagreeing with a Republican president isn't "left" just as disagreeing with a Democratic president isn't "right"
For example, the whole gay marriage issue doesn't exist on the political spectrum. "We hold these truths to be self evident-- that all men are created equal."
That is the fundamental principle upon which this country is based.
When Bush publicly spoke out against gay marriage, he was not expressing a right leaning political viewpoint, he was commiting an act of treason given his oath to defend the constitution.
Issues like that are not left or right, they are Pro-American pro-freedom, or Anti-American anti freedom.
The fact that Bush was proven to have lied about every one of his justifications for the invasion of Iraq, yet the press isn't screaming for his head is absolute proof that the media in this country isn't anywhere near the center.
Both science and religion are essential to our culture and civilization.
You were doing ok up to here.
Religion is in no way essential for anything good. If it went away the world would indisputably be a better place.
Both are equally valid fields of study.
Of course they are not.
There is really nothing to study in most religions.
God said this, do it or burn.
Why did he say it?--- Don't ask.
This thing he said is contradicted by fact.--- Burn, Heretic.
Incidentally, atheism can be called a religion too, being the belief that there is no God.
Now you are just making yourself look like a fool. This has been demonstrated over and over to be a lie. Religious zealots like to repeat the lie, but it doesn't make it true.
You, I, the Pope, and every other person on the planet was born an atheist. It is the natural state of a human being. Just because some people choose to believe something without any evidence whatsoever, does not mean that the people who prefer not to accept crazy ideas without any evidence are making a religion out of not believing the same things you do.
You give yourself far too much credit to think we give a shit what sort of delusion you choose to live your life under.
When the zealots try to shove it down our throats is when we start to get pissed off.
America was founded with freedom of religion with the express intent of protecting the citizenry *from* Christians. The founding fathers knew too well how much they like to burn people alive who disagree with them.
The universe was shit out of the ass of a large rabbit.
Do you believe this?
If not, then you just started your own religion according to your severely lacking logical abilities.
and yet, scientists like you dismiss the Existance of God without nary a thought.
you cant have it both ways... but I am 100% sure that nobody has proof that God does not exist.
The fundamental fallacy in your thinking is that you are assuming that there is a god, hence it is a reasonable suggestion.
Were there any evedence whatsoever of your magical invisible friend, then proving, disproving, what have you would be relevant.
As it is, everybody is born an atheist. Some people are told to believe that there is this magical, invisible, creature who made everything, yet refuses to provide a single scrap of evidence.
Some people swallow this since it makes them feel better since they, for whatever reason, aren't content with themselves and their lives.
Other people say, "umm... ok... sure. Do you have any idea how silly that sounds?"
Just because you propose some thing doesn't, in any way, lend it legitimacy.
Here:
The universe was shit out of the ass of a giant rabbit.
Prove it isn't true.
Your belief is exactly as likely and as legitimate as my statement.
You choose to believe one of them without a reason, yet I suspect that you reject my rabbit theory.
According to your statements your rejection of this is a religious belief.
The Tales of Narnia were right, after all. Now all we have to do is find a way into the 2 dimensional universe!
I don't remember this one from Narnia, perhaps you're thinking of The Wind in the Door, or whatever it was by L'Engle?
Posting from China, where I am to adopt my daughter! Back to the US in a week!
Congratulations!
I thought there was the great firewall of China?
Did you hack through it to post this? Are you in an "American" hotel and the rules are different? What's the story?
Laws are laws. You break them, you pay.
That was part of my point you missed.
A large number of cops are bad people. Mean people. People who have no business having any authority over other people.
The criminal *industry* of which they are a part is making bank the more things they can succesfully lobby illegal.
It doesn't matter if you fucking like them or not.
I think that you'll find that it does. At least if you give a squirt of shit about these things us Patriots like to call Freedom, The Constitution, America.
Defending guilty people in a group because of the group they're in is contrary to the principles of the country I love.
So Dipshit, preach your hatred elsewhere.
What is it called when the moderators troll?
Business as usual?