Congratulations, this is the first Slashdot comment that actually made me physically crumple into a tight knot with revulsion, which is now making it difficult to type.
Here's the problem: Our household decided recently that the $140/month pricetag for the cable monopoly in our area was too much - particularly when we considered that we got fewer than 100 channels for this money and that the damn system was broken more often than it was fixed. We quit all paid forms of television. Now, we live where it snows and tornados alot, so we need to be able to see the local news in the morning to see if the school buses will be running. Also under emergency weather conditions, it can literally be a life-and-death matter to know what tornado is hitting in the area and which way it's heading.
We could care less about the entertainment content - DVDs are now so cheap, we figured if we buy ten new shows on disk per month, that's about as often as we watched TV for entertainment anyway, we'd save money and not have to put up with commercials. VCR tapes are still out there, too, even cheaper, and we have quite a few we haven't even watched once yet. The three computers in the house help; when I can assemble second-hand hardware and run free software that will show most online media formats (my wife even keeps tabs on Survivor and Big Brother this way, for a group she moderates.), TV matters even less.
We could also care less about a government voucher. We don't *need* TV-welfare, we need the system that's been in place for fifty years without hurting anybody to be left alone. Because bet your bum that it'll end up being a new way to rip everybody off in the long run.
Anybody remember the advent of cable TV? The big selling point was supposed to be better quality and no commercials. Well, that didn't last long: Where we used to get some 200 channels counting UHF and well-equipped antenna setups, we now get half as many channels broadcasting the same crap with just as many commercials - if not more - than before. Only difference is, we get robbed for it. What suckers we've been! And we'll be that kind of sucker again if this goes through.
What this will make us do is simply throw away every TV in the house, period, except the ones hooked up to VCR/DVD, and just hope to God they don't take away our Firefox Forecast-Fox plugin to track the damn storms. Which I'm waiting on any day now.
The disadvantage is also clear, you gotta learn about a lot of apps to do one end task. Get the picture?
For the hundredth millionth time, learning is not an issue for everybody. And the people who don't want to learn cripple the choices of those of us who do.
Unfortunately, your insight has a devolved reciprocal capability to impact the paradigm metaphor. A compatible maximized GUI would be dependent on synchronised discrete middleware and a business-focused mobile protocol. Focused human-resource groupware isn't up to proactive uniform superstructure in a networked clear-thinking inheritance capacity situation.
A multi-phase strategic alliance would be required to address the market maximization retail potential of Generation D. And the syngergistic coherent intranet with fundamental well-modulated flexibility in a team-oriented client-server model paradigm functionality would be negatively combined with the polarised holistic flexibility contained within the progressive even-keeled structure.
despite the fact that you need to learn how to drive and get a license before you're allowed to use one.
Whoops, sorry, that's my argument. I've been using it for years, in the context of showing that everything on computers is *not* too hard. The conclusive results I've gotten, however, is that not only do average Slashdotters not drive, but they still aren't toilet-trained as well.
How about the idea that the web was supposed to be "JUST like television" by now? "Live streaming web pages and interactive 3D desktops and your cell phone gets up and tap dances and sings while you download Martha Stewart's recipes to your refridgerator which orders the groceries by itself, and your wallet emails your plane reservation request using it's 'smart calendar function' to identify when your two-weeks vacation are." Yeah, I bet the last stock market.Net bubble was fun - airheads like this feul it. Witness the reaction to Macromedia Flash and Real Player - we've had live embedded content for going on 15 years, now, and people hate it. They use Firefox's "nuke-anything-enhanced" to kill all the singing and dancing crap on the page so they can read the five-second's worth of text on it and get on with their lives.
I nominate the acronym "SADC"; Singing And Dancing Crap, for excessive multi-features that are beyond the expectaions or tolerance level of anyone sane. Somebody send that to the jargon file?
Tom Lehrer's immortal periodic elements song, which I first discovered on a Doctor Demento album. And as if that weren't enough, I found a Flash cartoon about the song. http://www.privatehand.com/flash/elements.html Isn't that interesting?
Never had to touch a PC since getting this wireless cranial implant to talk to the Internet with. It's been great, but I have this continuous boner because I download porn everytime I think about it. Anyway, I'm off to Jeopardy, where I'll be able to break Ken Jenning's record by mentally Googling the answer to every question.
Science fiction writers! Yes, SF writers, never again hand me your alien in the form of a flaming flying football, or a man crayola'd green with spikes taped to his ears, or an 80-ton katydid. If you have one of those, it belongs in the *fantasy* section. In science fiction, I should be able to picture the whole chain of evolution for the species, and if it's sentient, I should be able to marvel at it's natural design and be able to appreciate how it must have become the dominant species on it's planet.
We've all been trying this years ago. But just yesterday, I got my ass kicked down to troll and flamebait for daring to suggest that Linux/Open Source/OS X/BSD/Anything-but-Windows is anything but an utter turd. What hope is there to educate a public who cannot get past the idea that the internet is just AOL and Bill Gates invented the computer and a hundred other misconceptions? You're advocating college education for people who can't pass kindergarten.
From my ledge, I see it as counterproductive to call users "Joe Sixpack" and "Gramma". These are false stereotypes. Given the opportunity, anybody can learn. Nobody was born knowing Windows 20 years ago, but it caught on, didn't it? There's more "for Dummies" books where "DOS for Dummies" came from.
But yeah, I do my part to post hints 'n' tips every other day on my geek blog, but it's more directed at people who've already found Linux. I tried in a past life to do similar for Windows users, and got nowhere: it's a hole with no bottom.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6011 Here, Industrial Light and Magic editing Yoda (Star Wars? You have heard of it?) in a *gasp* Gnome desktop, using all those (*AAAAGGGHHHHH**) MULTIPLE WINDOWS - God! The HORROR! - that everybody complains about in Gimp. Fuck all you bastards, you're just Adobe and Microsoft stockholders who hate the Open Source community for it's SUCCESS! And we're not even excluding you, we're inviting your unworthy asses in!
Changing the name and uploading it wouldn't work, and you know why. You're just suggesting it because you have no better argument than 'do it yourself'. And no, I don't think its in the spirit of open source to grab someone elses work, change the name and upload it. Sure its perfectly fine within the license, but that doesn't make it right.
Here: http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/ is Blackbox, an X window manager for Linux. And here: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ is Fluxbox, the X window manager which was forked off from Blackbox: basically, they changed the name, patched in a couple more features that they fealt were missing from Blackbox, and released it. There is nothing wrong with that. Why, could you please explain to me, in the name of all the rationality that God gave a flea, would you claim that it's "wrong" to change an open source app? What, then would be the WHOLE MOTHERFUCKING ENTIRE POOOIIIINNNT of open source fucking software, you blathering idiot? Huh? Why make a big deal over source you can read, but not modify? Is it supposed to be printed out and nailed to the wall for decoration? Like your brain?
Never mind. Go to those links. Shut the fuck up in here and go to Blackbox and Fluxbox and explain to them that they're all wrong because you say so. Then be sure to dial up Richard M. Stallman and tell him his GNU license is full of shit. You just said as much in here!
So what your saying is he can't critique anything because you can't accept harsh comments? I guess you just don't put your heart into making something beautiful, usable and fast unless you're paid for it?
You really need to fold that untill it's sharp corners and stick it somewhere, OK, kid? Critique has nothing to do with it.
The Gimp developers, in fact, do the best fucking job on the planet. Doubtless, they could teach you everything you thought you knew about programming. But there are some things which no amount of love or devotion can buy, only money is accepted. Such as buying up software patents, suing anybody who makes a product that looks like yours, getting TV air time, dropping huge checks on politicians to turn them into your obedient lapdog so they'll obey your every command. See the big, flashy Flash animation at the top of this page? MONEY buys those! And you fall for the blinking lights and market-researched names, you use the CRAP because it's marketed to you; not knowing good software if it came up and bit your ass off.
You can't tell me for a minute, if Microsoft owned Gimp, that it wouldn't be their flagship product, the industry standard, and beyond all reproach. Other software designers would be falling all over themselves to copy it. It would be worshiped as the pinnacle of software perfection. How dare you insult all of our intelligences by saying otherwise.
My other point, is that you may justify "critiquing" (the flames in here are a long way from critiques) anything but an Open Source program: BECAUSE THE OPEN SOURCE PROGRAM BELONGS TO YOU AS MUCH AS IT DOES ANYBODY ELSE, AND IS THEREFORE JUST AS MUCH YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS IT IS ANYONE ELSE'S!!! That's the whole POINT of Open Source software! All the people bitching about the NAME? That's critiquing? Hey, FTP the tarball, CHANGE THE FILE NAME, and upload it to Source Forge as the new image program alternative to Gimp. It's your right to do that, the General Public Liscence says so. Is that too hard for all you whining, puling, disgusting, illiterate, squealing bitches to do? If you all worked together and stood in line to type one character each, do you think you could just change one name of one file? Is that too difficult, considering the legions of people crapping about it? Of course it is. There's fewer bytes in the Gimp source than there is in one month of bitching about it on Slashdot.
No, I'm really bloody serious as hell. It's Open Source software; it belongs to you as much as it belongs to anybody else (no, I'm not on the team itself, wherever *that* came from). How do you think the developers on the project got there? Just like I showed you! I'm actually serious that the people who have nothing better to do than line up and gang-bang the Gimp can simply DOWNLOAD IT AND OWN IT THEMSELVES, as PER THE GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE! Then it's yours to change! How hard can it be to change the freakin' NAME that everybody has their panties in a bunch about? Download it! Change the names of the files! Recompile it! Release it! You're so fucking smart, I'm sure you'll be rich and famous! If it's too much trouble to do yourself, you have a hundred people in here who, from their posts, think exactly like you do! So why don't you do it? Please? PROVE to me that you're not just a bunch of sniveling bitches?!?!?!?!?
It seems pretty obvious by now that the people who have control over the name don't think there's a problem.
It's called a "code fork". It's Open Source software, it belongs to you just as much as it belongs to anybody else. For instance, the Blackbox window manager wasn't pleasing everybody, so they forked the code and it spawned Fluxbox, with some new features and a different name. So download the tarball, rename it "I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Photoshop!" and re-release it.
To paraphrase Kurt Vonnegut, people who flame at Open Source software remind me of a person who has put on a full suit of armor to attack a hot-fudge sundae.
Yeah, Muslims. That's what I meant. Thank you:) But in the spirit of the complaints about Gimp, I will hereby DEMAND that the Muslims rename their entire religion to "Islam" just because that word was more intutive to me, even though I was wrong. To SOME people in here, I'm sure that should make perfect sense. And I insist that they rewrite the entire Qua'ran just to make it easier for me to read, too, and they have no right to ask me to help do that. Because then they'd be "flamebaiting trolls".
Hey, bub, no need to take it out on me just because every question you had could be answered by skimming the first few lines of the manual. All the furious anger is on your side. As for the multiple windows thing - that's a Windows-specific-problem, for the Windows-port-only to solve; it doesn't concern GIMP's home platform.
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Congratulations, this is the first Slashdot comment that actually made me physically crumple into a tight knot with revulsion, which is now making it difficult to type.
I'm flattered, but my comment was merely an off-the-cuff one-shot, and was not interresting in any way at all.
We could care less about the entertainment content - DVDs are now so cheap, we figured if we buy ten new shows on disk per month, that's about as often as we watched TV for entertainment anyway, we'd save money and not have to put up with commercials. VCR tapes are still out there, too, even cheaper, and we have quite a few we haven't even watched once yet. The three computers in the house help; when I can assemble second-hand hardware and run free software that will show most online media formats (my wife even keeps tabs on Survivor and Big Brother this way, for a group she moderates.), TV matters even less.
We could also care less about a government voucher. We don't *need* TV-welfare, we need the system that's been in place for fifty years without hurting anybody to be left alone. Because bet your bum that it'll end up being a new way to rip everybody off in the long run.
Anybody remember the advent of cable TV? The big selling point was supposed to be better quality and no commercials. Well, that didn't last long: Where we used to get some 200 channels counting UHF and well-equipped antenna setups, we now get half as many channels broadcasting the same crap with just as many commercials - if not more - than before. Only difference is, we get robbed for it. What suckers we've been! And we'll be that kind of sucker again if this goes through.
What this will make us do is simply throw away every TV in the house, period, except the ones hooked up to VCR/DVD, and just hope to God they don't take away our Firefox Forecast-Fox plugin to track the damn storms. Which I'm waiting on any day now.
For the hundredth millionth time, learning is not an issue for everybody. And the people who don't want to learn cripple the choices of those of us who do.
video internet = Web TV. We already got there. It sucked.
A multi-phase strategic alliance would be required to address the market maximization retail potential of Generation D. And the syngergistic coherent intranet with fundamental well-modulated flexibility in a team-oriented client-server model paradigm functionality would be negatively combined with the polarised holistic flexibility contained within the progressive even-keeled structure.
Ah, I see my frappaccinno's ready. Ta-ta!
I just realized, we already had video internet. It was called "Web TV". It sucked.
Whoops, sorry, that's my argument. I've been using it for years, in the context of showing that everything on computers is *not* too hard. The conclusive results I've gotten, however, is that not only do average Slashdotters not drive, but they still aren't toilet-trained as well.
I nominate the acronym "SADC"; Singing And Dancing Crap, for excessive multi-features that are beyond the expectaions or tolerance level of anyone sane. Somebody send that to the jargon file?
Tom Lehrer's immortal periodic elements song, which I first discovered on a Doctor Demento album. And as if that weren't enough, I found a Flash cartoon about the song. http://www.privatehand.com/flash/elements.html Isn't that interesting?
Never had to touch a PC since getting this wireless cranial implant to talk to the Internet with. It's been great, but I have this continuous boner because I download porn everytime I think about it. Anyway, I'm off to Jeopardy, where I'll be able to break Ken Jenning's record by mentally Googling the answer to every question.
OK, you're not here, so I'll quit pretending to see you.
*drooling* awwwwww, hookay!
There's a reason why languages come and go.
Tell that to the camp who won't release Basic until you pry their fingers from it!
*grins, ducks, and vanishes*
Science fiction writers! Yes, SF writers, never again hand me your alien in the form of a flaming flying football, or a man crayola'd green with spikes taped to his ears, or an 80-ton katydid. If you have one of those, it belongs in the *fantasy* section. In science fiction, I should be able to picture the whole chain of evolution for the species, and if it's sentient, I should be able to marvel at it's natural design and be able to appreciate how it must have become the dominant species on it's planet.
http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Simple_Animations/ Gimp also has layers. Must we continue to perpetuate the mythology by implying that it's a Photoshop-only feature?
We've all been trying this years ago. But just yesterday, I got my ass kicked down to troll and flamebait for daring to suggest that Linux/Open Source/OS X/BSD/Anything-but-Windows is anything but an utter turd. What hope is there to educate a public who cannot get past the idea that the internet is just AOL and Bill Gates invented the computer and a hundred other misconceptions? You're advocating college education for people who can't pass kindergarten.
From my ledge, I see it as counterproductive to call users "Joe Sixpack" and "Gramma". These are false stereotypes. Given the opportunity, anybody can learn. Nobody was born knowing Windows 20 years ago, but it caught on, didn't it? There's more "for Dummies" books where "DOS for Dummies" came from.
But yeah, I do my part to post hints 'n' tips every other day on my geek blog, but it's more directed at people who've already found Linux. I tried in a past life to do similar for Windows users, and got nowhere: it's a hole with no bottom.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6011 Here, Industrial Light and Magic editing Yoda (Star Wars? You have heard of it?) in a *gasp* Gnome desktop, using all those (*AAAAGGGHHHHH**) MULTIPLE WINDOWS - God! The HORROR! - that everybody complains about in Gimp. Fuck all you bastards, you're just Adobe and Microsoft stockholders who hate the Open Source community for it's SUCCESS! And we're not even excluding you, we're inviting your unworthy asses in!
Here: http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/ is Blackbox, an X window manager for Linux. And here: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ is Fluxbox, the X window manager which was forked off from Blackbox: basically, they changed the name, patched in a couple more features that they fealt were missing from Blackbox, and released it. There is nothing wrong with that. Why, could you please explain to me, in the name of all the rationality that God gave a flea, would you claim that it's "wrong" to change an open source app? What, then would be the WHOLE MOTHERFUCKING ENTIRE POOOIIIINNNT of open source fucking software, you blathering idiot? Huh? Why make a big deal over source you can read, but not modify? Is it supposed to be printed out and nailed to the wall for decoration? Like your brain?
Never mind. Go to those links. Shut the fuck up in here and go to Blackbox and Fluxbox and explain to them that they're all wrong because you say so. Then be sure to dial up Richard M. Stallman and tell him his GNU license is full of shit. You just said as much in here!
You really need to fold that untill it's sharp corners and stick it somewhere, OK, kid? Critique has nothing to do with it.
The Gimp developers, in fact, do the best fucking job on the planet. Doubtless, they could teach you everything you thought you knew about programming. But there are some things which no amount of love or devotion can buy, only money is accepted. Such as buying up software patents, suing anybody who makes a product that looks like yours, getting TV air time, dropping huge checks on politicians to turn them into your obedient lapdog so they'll obey your every command. See the big, flashy Flash animation at the top of this page? MONEY buys those! And you fall for the blinking lights and market-researched names, you use the CRAP because it's marketed to you; not knowing good software if it came up and bit your ass off.
You can't tell me for a minute, if Microsoft owned Gimp, that it wouldn't be their flagship product, the industry standard, and beyond all reproach. Other software designers would be falling all over themselves to copy it. It would be worshiped as the pinnacle of software perfection. How dare you insult all of our intelligences by saying otherwise.
My other point, is that you may justify "critiquing" (the flames in here are a long way from critiques) anything but an Open Source program: BECAUSE THE OPEN SOURCE PROGRAM BELONGS TO YOU AS MUCH AS IT DOES ANYBODY ELSE, AND IS THEREFORE JUST AS MUCH YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS IT IS ANYONE ELSE'S!!! That's the whole POINT of Open Source software! All the people bitching about the NAME? That's critiquing? Hey, FTP the tarball, CHANGE THE FILE NAME, and upload it to Source Forge as the new image program alternative to Gimp. It's your right to do that, the General Public Liscence says so. Is that too hard for all you whining, puling, disgusting, illiterate, squealing bitches to do? If you all worked together and stood in line to type one character each, do you think you could just change one name of one file? Is that too difficult, considering the legions of people crapping about it? Of course it is. There's fewer bytes in the Gimp source than there is in one month of bitching about it on Slashdot.
Your type make me sick.
LOL, thanks! I was gonna say, what would your namesake, Aristotle, think?
No, I'm really bloody serious as hell. It's Open Source software; it belongs to you as much as it belongs to anybody else (no, I'm not on the team itself, wherever *that* came from). How do you think the developers on the project got there? Just like I showed you! I'm actually serious that the people who have nothing better to do than line up and gang-bang the Gimp can simply DOWNLOAD IT AND OWN IT THEMSELVES, as PER THE GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE! Then it's yours to change! How hard can it be to change the freakin' NAME that everybody has their panties in a bunch about? Download it! Change the names of the files! Recompile it! Release it! You're so fucking smart, I'm sure you'll be rich and famous! If it's too much trouble to do yourself, you have a hundred people in here who, from their posts, think exactly like you do! So why don't you do it? Please? PROVE to me that you're not just a bunch of sniveling bitches?!?!?!?!?
It's called a "code fork". It's Open Source software, it belongs to you just as much as it belongs to anybody else. For instance, the Blackbox window manager wasn't pleasing everybody, so they forked the code and it spawned Fluxbox, with some new features and a different name. So download the tarball, rename it "I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Photoshop!" and re-release it.
To paraphrase Kurt Vonnegut, people who flame at Open Source software remind me of a person who has put on a full suit of armor to attack a hot-fudge sundae.
Yeah, Muslims. That's what I meant. Thank you :) But in the spirit of the complaints about Gimp, I will hereby DEMAND that the Muslims rename their entire religion to "Islam" just because that word was more intutive to me, even though I was wrong. To SOME people in here, I'm sure that should make perfect sense. And I insist that they rewrite the entire Qua'ran just to make it easier for me to read, too, and they have no right to ask me to help do that. Because then they'd be "flamebaiting trolls".
Hey, bub, no need to take it out on me just because every question you had could be answered by skimming the first few lines of the manual. All the furious anger is on your side. As for the multiple windows thing - that's a Windows-specific-problem, for the Windows-port-only to solve; it doesn't concern GIMP's home platform.