I don't see how "try and force the stipulations they wanted without having to be the high bidder" is a misconception of the link you provided.
The link does detail how difficult the bid would be for them to win, but it does not mean they could not win the bid; it would just cost them a lot more money than what it would cost AT&T and probably would not make good business sense.
Again, they were trying to get stipulations attached without having to be the high bidder.
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I wasn't really making any judgments, don't get defensive about your favorite company.
As others have pointed out, there is nothing wrong with Google doing this if it will benefit the consumer (which is what they claim they are trying to do).
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Is there any consensus in the geek community about which format is liked best?
If Google were to win the bid, then they could do those other things if they wanted. Google not bidding means they never really intended to win, they were just using this as publicity to try an force the stipulations they wanted without having to be the high bidder.
Google sure has been trying to throw their weight around a lot lately.
Apparently "FUD" has become the new word for "spin"
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Yeah, I agree.
FUD has kinda of lost all meaning if you want to insist that generic PR statements are FUD. They even went into detail to explain why each statement was FUD, and that made them look even more pathetic and clueless.
The article seemed to be using his past credentials to show his credibility - it was not anybody saying this, it was newsman Pierre Salinger saying this. What it failed to mention was the incident where he was so adamant in his belief that TWA Flight 800 was shot down by friendly fire. He even held a big news conference to present his evidence. Didn't his big evidence turn out to be some internet hoax that he bought hook, line, and sinker? He became a laughing stock. The whole TWA thing makes you question his competence and credibility. As far as the Pan Am bombing, Libya has pretty much owned up to that, but Pierre was producing TV specials at the time claiming that Libya was being framed and that somebody else was responsible. In fact he claimed they were being framed by the person mentioned in this article that has supposedly infiltrated Wikipedia.
Pierre Salinger was kind of a crackpot at this point in his career, so just because he believed somebody was an MI-5 operative doesn't mean much. He was a laughing stock because of all of his conspiracy theories at the time.
That's why I said to perform an internal investigation. They are not allowed to turn over student names without court-order, so the university would be in total control to determine what occurred and what actions, if any, should be taken.
It just seems like a university would have a policy for dealing with complaints of illegal activity by students on campus using university resources.
When I was in school, a guy in our dorm found a bunch of backpacks, books, and calculators in his roommate's closet. He reported this as being suspicious to school officials, and they launched an investigation. The guy immediately confessed to stealing them and asked for mercy, and they school gave him a hearing where he could call in character witnesses to say he deserved leniency.
As long as there is due process, there is nothing wrong with the university investigating at least once to see how credible the source of the complaints is.
>>The RIAA contacts the university saying IPs X.X.X.X and Y.Y.Y.Y have been sharing songs.
It seems like the university would be kind of obligated to at least once launch an internal investigation like they would for plagiarism - someone is claiming the university's resources are being used for illegal purposes. Until they do an investigation at least once, they have no idea how credible the RIAA and their claims are.
They would not have to give up the names to anybody outside the university, but they could determine how credible these complaints are. If they could not be substantied, then they could just blow off the RIAA in the future and say the RIAA's claims are not credible. On the other hand, if RIAA's claims could be substantiated by an internal investigation then some type of disciplinary action would be in order.
>>Probably because at any place that's not an IT company (and under a thousand people), all of those jobs are the same 1-5 guys.
And more than half of them suck, so nobody feels really appreciative.
I have always worked at small companies, and most of the IT people have some serious flaws. At my current company all the IT people are in the home office, and me and another guy cover some of the more basic stuff for our branch. It seems like we are always cleaning up IT messes - just the other day they accidently deleted everybody's user accounts company wide (5 or 6 offices).
I thought I read something once about people wanting to use tethered ribbons (not elevators) into space to actually generate electricity somehow. Has anybody else seen this, or am I just confused?
I think my webhost uses 2CO as well, but it just seems like that is something small-time outfits use, not a company expecting to make millions per month. I'm not sure they could eat the cost of tens of millions of dollars if this were a fraud.
Would Visa cover you for fraud in instances like this where you go through a third party?
I just threw the price of the Dell in as something interesting; I expected the price on similar configuration to go down quite a bit, but it is interesting to see how much really.
I just did a quick search on Pricewatch and I think the cheapest laptop was around $300.
Then edit the post to read "virual reality sex machine" instead of video editing...
Seriously though, I know a lot of people with kids that like the idea of doing their own video editing, but I don't know any who have tried so far. Make it easy and fast, and maybe more will try.
The 286 processor was called a "supercomputer on the desktop", way too much power than what the average user will ever need.
It's not just the alienware crowd, once your average user gets a taste of what can be done with more power they will jump on the bandwagon too.
As somebody here mentioned in another post, video encoding and editing requires quite a bit of power, and this may become more mainstream with cheaper and cheaper camcorders. The personal computer is constantly expanding beyond the glorified word processor and their will always be new applications that come along that require more power, and it is kind of short sighted to believe that future apps will be nothing more than improved versions of only what exists today.
I don't think the question was whether they were a significant contributor, but whether they were THE top contributor. The soft money link listed in another post does seem to indicate that Hollywood/Entertainment money was on par with labor unions.
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I don't see how "try and force the stipulations they wanted without having to be the high bidder" is a misconception of the link you provided.
The link does detail how difficult the bid would be for them to win, but it does not mean they could not win the bid; it would just cost them a lot more money than what it would cost AT&T and probably would not make good business sense.
Again, they were trying to get stipulations attached without having to be the high bidder.
HD format and capacity was kind of implied.
I wasn't really making any judgments, don't get defensive about your favorite company.
As others have pointed out, there is nothing wrong with Google doing this if it will benefit the consumer (which is what they claim they are trying to do).
Is there any consensus in the geek community about which format is liked best?
If Google were to win the bid, then they could do those other things if they wanted. Google not bidding means they never really intended to win, they were just using this as publicity to try an force the stipulations they wanted without having to be the high bidder.
Google sure has been trying to throw their weight around a lot lately.
Apparently "FUD" has become the new word for "spin"
Yeah, I agree.
FUD has kinda of lost all meaning if you want to insist that generic PR statements are FUD. They even went into detail to explain why each statement was FUD, and that made them look even more pathetic and clueless.
The article seemed to be using his past credentials to show his credibility - it was not anybody saying this, it was newsman Pierre Salinger saying this. What it failed to mention was the incident where he was so adamant in his belief that TWA Flight 800 was shot down by friendly fire. He even held a big news conference to present his evidence. Didn't his big evidence turn out to be some internet hoax that he bought hook, line, and sinker? He became a laughing stock. The whole TWA thing makes you question his competence and credibility. As far as the Pan Am bombing, Libya has pretty much owned up to that, but Pierre was producing TV specials at the time claiming that Libya was being framed and that somebody else was responsible. In fact he claimed they were being framed by the person mentioned in this article that has supposedly infiltrated Wikipedia.
Pierre Salinger was kind of a crackpot at this point in his career, so just because he believed somebody was an MI-5 operative doesn't mean much. He was a laughing stock because of all of his conspiracy theories at the time.
That's why I said to perform an internal investigation. They are not allowed to turn over student names without court-order, so the university would be in total control to determine what occurred and what actions, if any, should be taken.
It just seems like a university would have a policy for dealing with complaints of illegal activity by students on campus using university resources.
When I was in school, a guy in our dorm found a bunch of backpacks, books, and calculators in his roommate's closet. He reported this as being suspicious to school officials, and they launched an investigation. The guy immediately confessed to stealing them and asked for mercy, and they school gave him a hearing where he could call in character witnesses to say he deserved leniency.
As long as there is due process, there is nothing wrong with the university investigating at least once to see how credible the source of the complaints is.
PRM...Physical Rights Management...
>>The RIAA contacts the university saying IPs X.X.X.X and Y.Y.Y.Y have been sharing songs.
It seems like the university would be kind of obligated to at least once launch an internal investigation like they would for plagiarism - someone is claiming the university's resources are being used for illegal purposes. Until they do an investigation at least once, they have no idea how credible the RIAA and their claims are.
They would not have to give up the names to anybody outside the university, but they could determine how credible these complaints are. If they could not be substantied, then they could just blow off the RIAA in the future and say the RIAA's claims are not credible. On the other hand, if RIAA's claims could be substantiated by an internal investigation then some type of disciplinary action would be in order.
>>Probably because at any place that's not an IT company (and under a thousand people), all of those jobs are the same 1-5 guys.
And more than half of them suck, so nobody feels really appreciative.
I have always worked at small companies, and most of the IT people have some serious flaws. At my current company all the IT people are in the home office, and me and another guy cover some of the more basic stuff for our branch. It seems like we are always cleaning up IT messes - just the other day they accidently deleted everybody's user accounts company wide (5 or 6 offices).
Only those that feel their profession is tougher than everybody else's and/or feel their profession is underappreciated otherwise.
It has been going on for like 8 years and nobody has heard of it so I doubt they are getting much love anyway.
I thought I read something once about people wanting to use tethered ribbons (not elevators) into space to actually generate electricity somehow. Has anybody else seen this, or am I just confused?
Guess you never figured out a "print" option will usually format everything on one page...
>>But, quite frankly, I'd rather see humanity burn in flames than see the Americans in possession of the technology.
U-S-A #1! U-S-A #1! U-S-A #1!
Actually, the US would probably be pretty isolationist now if energy wasn't a concern.
I think my webhost uses 2CO as well, but it just seems like that is something small-time outfits use, not a company expecting to make millions per month. I'm not sure they could eat the cost of tens of millions of dollars if this were a fraud.
Would Visa cover you for fraud in instances like this where you go through a third party?
I just threw the price of the Dell in as something interesting; I expected the price on similar configuration to go down quite a bit, but it is interesting to see how much really.
I just did a quick search on Pricewatch and I think the cheapest laptop was around $300.
Fraud was my first thought, especially with their pay method. The configuration is similar to a Dell I bought 5 years ago for $1600.
Then edit the post to read "virual reality sex machine" instead of video editing...
Seriously though, I know a lot of people with kids that like the idea of doing their own video editing, but I don't know any who have tried so far. Make it easy and fast, and maybe more will try.
>>What a bunch of GPL Nazis.
Sorry, I laughed.
640K...
The 286 processor was called a "supercomputer on the desktop", way too much power than what the average user will ever need.
It's not just the alienware crowd, once your average user gets a taste of what can be done with more power they will jump on the bandwagon too.
As somebody here mentioned in another post, video encoding and editing requires quite a bit of power, and this may become more mainstream with cheaper and cheaper camcorders. The personal computer is constantly expanding beyond the glorified word processor and their will always be new applications that come along that require more power, and it is kind of short sighted to believe that future apps will be nothing more than improved versions of only what exists today.
I don't think the question was whether they were a significant contributor, but whether they were THE top contributor. The soft money link listed in another post does seem to indicate that Hollywood/Entertainment money was on par with labor unions.