That's ridiculous. First of all, if the leadership is mentally ill, that would be sufficient. However, the point I'm making is that the actions that happened here have nothing to do with religion, regardless of the fact that people would like to characterize it that way. If we are going to characterize it that way, then every act that's done in the name of religion must also be characterized the same way, which given the history, Christians don't want, because they're the worst of them all. I was responding to the joker above you who's trying to build in excuses as to why those Christian terrorists don't count, and he's using mental illness as the cop out......as if the idea of someone blowing up an airport isn't indicative of mental instability.
It's a silly double standard that the right in the US has managed to get people to believe because it's easier for them to believe that than to actually think.
Of course it's the same thing. Do you think the actions of these guys in Belgium are indicative of sound mental health? It's EXACTLY the same thing, but people are trying to obfuscate that by suggesting that it's a religious thing.
Thank you for helping me make my point. We are saying the same thing, which is, you can't associate these types of actions with a religion because a) these lunatics are not representative of said religion, regardless of what religion that is and b) there are so many different interpretations of each religion, it's impossible to group them as a whole.
Unfortunately, you go on to completely contradict yourself by talking about your understanding of Christians in America to be such that they wouldn't do such things. Guessing you're unfamiliar with the KKK or the Westboro Baptist Church, huh? What about Eric Rudolph, remember him? He was a Christian, and he bombed a huge crowd there's plenty more. Yes, I cited a source with a particularly "on the nose" domain name, sorry it was too much for you. If you had been brave enough to click, you'd see that it's actually a well organized site with good navigation illustrating the hundreds if not thousands of incitements to violence in the Bible. Perhaps this link is more to your liking?
You can't deny this correlation, because it exists.
There are lots of correlations that exist. But trying to boil it down to one group or religion is just hogwash. You're drinking the Kool Aid, my friend. Hell, the Buddhists are killing people left and right in Burma, but you excuse that as some sort of "one off". So many examples of crazy people doing things in the name of one religion/philosophy or another, but you choose to try to classify it as all being one group?
If Christians or Atheists committed the same number of atrocities, we would all agree with your sarchasm 100%. However, that is not the case. We don't have sleeper cells of atheists and Christians plotting to kill as many innocents as possible.
Is that so? You may want to click here and filter to "Christian Identity" to check your facts, bud. You might want to consider reading up on folks like these guys to see just how incorrect you are.
I will never understand why people like you can't admit the obvious. Instead you want to play games and try to find equivalence between a couple of Colorado crazies and the hundreds (thousands?) of attacks done by Muslims. Good luck trying to win hearts and minds with that approach. People aren't as stupid as you think they are.
Apparently, you may just be as stupid as I think you are. So this is a numbers game for you then? So by your rationale, if the "couple of crazies" had been more successful in their campaigns of terror, then it'd be the same, but because they cocked it up and didn't score enough kills, it's not the same thing? Seriously?
You really believe that there is no significant violence done in the name of Christianity?
If you're still incensed at these facts because it was the actions of a few "crazies" who are not representative of the overall religion, then CONGRATULATIONS!! You just learned something! You just learned EXACTLY my point. If YOU believe that the actions of these ISIS idiots are representative of Islam, then you're clearly not understanding how things work.....or you're desperately trying to make yourself feel better about Christianity for some reason......which probably means you consider yourself a Christian and therefore better than others.
Oh how badly, badly misinformed you are. You clearly do not understand the tenets and foundation of either religion clearly. Here is just a small sampling of what Christianity endorses if we are going to hold them to their sacred text.
You say things like "Every nation that has adopted Islam has always been at work with itself and other peoples" without batting an eye, never bothering to think of how utterly moronic that makes you sound.
Seriously, next time you decide to enter a debate, please do some homework first.
Oh totally. But we can't stop there, because there should be no half measures. We need to ban Christianity because look at what happened in Colorado with that Planned Parenthood. Terrorism. Also, we need to ban Atheism because the "dark knight" guy in Aurora was an Atheist.....I bet that's where he got the ideas. See, if only the non-violent Christians and non-violent Atheists had done something to prevent this type of terrorism, it'd be OK. But, they don't stop it, so we need to ban their philosophies as well. So glad someone had the courage to say it.
/bitter sarcasm
Seriously, how in the fuck is this moderated as "Insightful". You sir, are an idiot.
And no, he does not have good ideas. It's been pretty well documented by some pretty smart folks that his policies would be financial suicide for our country. His ideas go beyond protectionism and instead veer out into utter fantasy.
Dude, you need therapy. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is not a smart strategy. But, hey, maybe you're into that kind of thing. It's OK. He has no chance at winning the General Election anyway.
Wait. So you honestly believe that the guy who has bankrupted several of his own companies, the guy who is encouraging physical violence at his rallies, the guy advocating for targeting Muslims, and the guy advocating for spending billions and billions of dollars on building a wall is the LESSER of two evils? I'm not saying the Clintons are without sin, absolutely they've got some dirty laundry. But man, it's a real stretch calling Trump the lesser of those two "evils".
Which version of Sonar were you using, if you don't mind? I've been a long-time user, and I've become so very comfortable with the environment. I'm running X1 Producer, and it is a VERY capable DAW. I have scored 4 independent films using it. Great VST integration, excellent effects suites, automation is great, all the things you'd want.
Interesting. I didn't intend on writing this to be an anti-Microsoft thing, but you're the second person to reply assuming I was. I was not intending on bashing Microsoft just as a reflex. Sure, I'm guilty of criticizing some of their less desirable traits, but I do the same for Apple, Google, Facebook, etc.
Now you may be right, of course, but here's where my (perhaps limited) mind is taking me: OK, so you connect local folks to this submarine data center. What can it have in it? Maybe a few hundred terrabytes of storage or something, right? So what would be stored there that is of value or how would that be useful to the local folks? I mean, maybe it's a switching mechanism/router point so it serves as a "mini-internet" to serve that local area. Otherwise, maybe it's just a cloud resource for the remote people to store their vacation photos or something.
Again, I'm not dumping on Microsoft, and I'm not saying that this is absolutely a bad idea, I just don't understand what it would be for.
Now, as for the passive cooling, I'm taking issue. You can either use geo-thermal cooling on land to have the same "free" cooling, or you can use simple air side economization to achieve the same thing (somewhat dependent on geographical location, of course). True, there would be SOME construction costs on land, but you could just put it in a parking lot in all honesty. On top of that, it's not like it's going to put itself down on the bottom of the ocean. There is probably going to be some pretty significant cost to lower it down, anchor it, attach cabling, etc. Tidal power is a possibility, but that technology is still pretty being refined. Yes, it's possible, but I don't know that they've got it down to where it could be applied reliably on the sea floor.
TLDR: I'm just a skeptic who may not understand all of the angles, and I'm not dumping on Microsoft.
Perhaps for some, but not for me. Now it may be that there is a perfectly good application, and I just need to understand it better. But for me, I don't understand its value, regardless of who's developing it.
I agree. I also have to say that this qualifies for the "just because something is difficult to do, does not mean it's worth doing" award. I honestly do not get the fucking point. They say it's to potentially serve remote areas. With what ? A can under the ocean, with some servers and drives in it? I mean, if it has a fiber line going to the local network on the island or whatever, OK, you have your connectivity to land, but what about everywhere else? Are they gonna splice into an intercontinental backbone cable?
I guess I just don't get the value. If it is intended to be a node to connect that remote area to the internet, then I would ask why put the node connection underwater (and inaccessible, as you point out)? Wouldn't it be easier, cheaper, faster to deploy that on land?
You might wanna check out that teeny little town, Charlotte. I mean, I know it's only bigger than Pittsburgh, Raleigh, Cleveland and other small cities, but you'd be surprised at how things are coming together there.
Also, while not a big town, you're not going to get much more progressive than Asheville. It's a great town, and I recommend checking it out if you get the chance.
Sure, no problem. there are closed type systems, but when you have Cooling Towers, it's an open system. That is, there's a secondary chilled water loop that circulates inside, and it dumps its head into the primary loop through a plate and frame heat exchanger. The primary loop gets pumped out to the cooling towers, where it goes through the cooling tower "fill" which is a scheme of different diverter surfaces to separate the water into thin streams running along flat surfaces. Outside air is then drawn across the fill, and that removes the heat and aids in evaporation of the water. Any water that is evaporated away is replaced with fresh "makeup water".
As the water is being drawn across the fill, it starts to evaporate and also atomize (meaning that the streams of water break up into tiny droplets that are technically still liquid, but are light enough to be carried away in the moving air stream). As these water droplets are pulled into the outside air, they can be carried anywhere. Often, cooling towers are located on the roof of buildings. The other thing that you'll often see on the roof is the building exhaust fans and the fresh air make up fans. If the fresh air makeup fan inlets are located anywhere near the cooling tower, it is very possible to have those same tiny water droplets get sucked into the intake, and pumped into the building along with the fresh air makeup.
Mechanical Engineers usually design the location of these intakes to be far enough away form the Cooling Towers to prevent infiltration, but wind currents can be a little hard to predict. Also, if the Cooling Tower isn't being operated correctly, there can be more water atomization than there should be. For example, if the Variable Frequency Drives (VFDs) that control the Cooling Tower Fan speed isn't set up right, it can run too fast and pull out more water droplets than it should be (this should ordinarily be kept to a minimum because makeup water isn't cheap, and it's not "green" to use too much water).
What exactly do these cool? Do they cool water or act like an AC?
I've been managing facilities and staff to maintain cooling towers for years. I've personally cleaned them, I've personally maintained them, and I've personally been responsible for the water treatment/chemistry as part of their operational and preventive maintenance.
The answer to your question is, they technically cool water, which is then piped back into a building(s) and used as a "heat sink" for any air conditioning/refrigeration equipment inside the building. In your home air conditioner, you have the box with the fan that sits outside. This box is called the"condenser". The condenser's job is to release any heat that is removed from inside the house. In that type of mechanical refrigeration, the refrigerant (R-22, colloquially called Freon) is compressed to allow for a controlled evaporation cycle inside the indoor unit (the evaporator). As the refrigerant absorbs heat from inside the home, it is pumped outside to the condenser where it releases the head into the air (in this case, the outside air is the "heat sink"). That is, the fan on the condenser pulls outside air across the coils where the hot refrigerant is being pumped, and the heat transfers to the outside air, cooling your house.
In large commercial applications, it is often more efficient to use water based systems to achieve this. In this method, the refrigerant that has absorbed the heat from inside the facility is dumped into what's called "condenser water". The water absorbs the heat, and the cooled refrigerant goes back to the air conditioning systems in the building to absorb more heat. The condenser water is pumped up to the cooling towers where it is filtered through several screens while large fans pull outside air across them (similar to the home system). The combination of the water flow patterns, air velocity, and evaporation will cool this condenser water, allowing for it to be sent back to the indoor air conditioning systems so that it can absorb more heat and start the cycle again.
I mention all of this to say this: the ONLY reason this type of contamination is happening is because of improper maintenance. Period. Water treatment systems are just about idiot proof. So, while we may not hear about it, I guarantee someone, somewhere took a short cut. Maybe it was the end of the fiscal quarter and someone was under pressure to save money, so they postponed the delivery of the aquastat chemicals for a couple of weeks to make budget. Maybe a maintenance engineer didn't really do his rounds inspection that day and so he didn't see that one of the chemical feeder pumps had tripped out on overload. Maybe the maintenance workers didn't want to spend a few hours inside one of these steamy boxes cleaning out additional algae buildup. It's not a glamorous job to say the least, but not terribly difficult in the grand scheme.
People should not only lose their jobs and licenses for this, people absolutely deserve litigation for this. This is nothing short of negligence.
You are spot on. I worked for HP (well, technically, I worked for their 3rd party Facilities Management company who ran their Data Centers for them) for 3 years. I was initially with EDS, and was with them through the transition to HP. I can tell you from direct experience that you're exactly right with regard to the "legacy EDS" section of the company.
The number of old timers who were just hanging on in the old EDS world was staggering. I think it was a product of EDS getting really big during the 90's, getting some really large accounts, coming out of the dot com bust, and just frantically trying to keep its business afloat. That is, they were so scatterbrained that they quite honestly had no idea what they were doing, who did what, who paid for what, etc. It was a tangled mess.
I had worked for EDS for 4 years prior, but had left them, and I came back as HP came in thinking that maybe they could straighten things out. After a few years, I realized that the ship was sinking, and nothing was gonna save it. This is just the inevitable fall that they can't put off any more. There aren't enough buckets to bail out the water. This is a last ditch effort, but frankly, it's probably too late. All of these middle managers pulling down nice six figure salaries for years and years to essentially be responsible for nothing has just sucked the life blood out of the organization. The few good people you have left are so demoralized that I doubt there's any hope.
My bet is that after the split, HP ES will continue its death spiral, and someone will buy them trying to put it back together. They'll be buying them for the contracts they still have that are worthwhile, the patents they hold, and some of their infrastructure, and it'll be for pennies on the dollar.
This should not be modded troll, you're spot on, dude. The only people who don't understand this are a) non-artists and b) cheap assholes who like to steal whatever they can get away with.
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There you go!! Finally, someone on my wavelength. Cheers, my fellow skeptic!
That's ridiculous. First of all, if the leadership is mentally ill, that would be sufficient. However, the point I'm making is that the actions that happened here have nothing to do with religion, regardless of the fact that people would like to characterize it that way. If we are going to characterize it that way, then every act that's done in the name of religion must also be characterized the same way, which given the history, Christians don't want, because they're the worst of them all. I was responding to the joker above you who's trying to build in excuses as to why those Christian terrorists don't count, and he's using mental illness as the cop out......as if the idea of someone blowing up an airport isn't indicative of mental instability.
It's a silly double standard that the right in the US has managed to get people to believe because it's easier for them to believe that than to actually think.
Of course it's the same thing. Do you think the actions of these guys in Belgium are indicative of sound mental health? It's EXACTLY the same thing, but people are trying to obfuscate that by suggesting that it's a religious thing.
I intended that as satire, because clearly you can't ban logic and reason. *disclaimer, I myself am an atheist.
Thank you for helping me make my point. We are saying the same thing, which is, you can't associate these types of actions with a religion because a) these lunatics are not representative of said religion, regardless of what religion that is and b) there are so many different interpretations of each religion, it's impossible to group them as a whole.
Unfortunately, you go on to completely contradict yourself by talking about your understanding of Christians in America to be such that they wouldn't do such things. Guessing you're unfamiliar with the KKK or the Westboro Baptist Church, huh? What about Eric Rudolph, remember him? He was a Christian, and he bombed a huge crowd there's plenty more. Yes, I cited a source with a particularly "on the nose" domain name, sorry it was too much for you. If you had been brave enough to click, you'd see that it's actually a well organized site with good navigation illustrating the hundreds if not thousands of incitements to violence in the Bible. Perhaps this link is more to your liking?
You can't deny this correlation, because it exists.
There are lots of correlations that exist. But trying to boil it down to one group or religion is just hogwash. You're drinking the Kool Aid, my friend. Hell, the Buddhists are killing people left and right in Burma, but you excuse that as some sort of "one off". So many examples of crazy people doing things in the name of one religion/philosophy or another, but you choose to try to classify it as all being one group?
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The Muslim extremists are not mentally ill. Nor are they on drugs.
You might want to check your facts.
If Christians or Atheists committed the same number of atrocities, we would all agree with your sarchasm 100%. However, that is not the case. We don't have sleeper cells of atheists and Christians plotting to kill as many innocents as possible.
Is that so? You may want to click here and filter to "Christian Identity" to check your facts, bud. You might want to consider reading up on folks like these guys to see just how incorrect you are.
I will never understand why people like you can't admit the obvious. Instead you want to play games and try to find equivalence between a couple of Colorado crazies and the hundreds (thousands?) of attacks done by Muslims. Good luck trying to win hearts and minds with that approach. People aren't as stupid as you think they are.
Apparently, you may just be as stupid as I think you are. So this is a numbers game for you then? So by your rationale, if the "couple of crazies" had been more successful in their campaigns of terror, then it'd be the same, but because they cocked it up and didn't score enough kills, it's not the same thing? Seriously?
You really believe that there is no significant violence done in the name of Christianity?
If you're still incensed at these facts because it was the actions of a few "crazies" who are not representative of the overall religion, then CONGRATULATIONS!! You just learned something! You just learned EXACTLY my point. If YOU believe that the actions of these ISIS idiots are representative of Islam, then you're clearly not understanding how things work.....or you're desperately trying to make yourself feel better about Christianity for some reason......which probably means you consider yourself a Christian and therefore better than others.
Oh how badly, badly misinformed you are. You clearly do not understand the tenets and foundation of either religion clearly. Here is just a small sampling of what Christianity endorses if we are going to hold them to their sacred text.
You say things like "Every nation that has adopted Islam has always been at work with itself and other peoples" without batting an eye, never bothering to think of how utterly moronic that makes you sound.
Seriously, next time you decide to enter a debate, please do some homework first.
Stopping terrorism means stopping Islam.
Oh totally. But we can't stop there, because there should be no half measures. We need to ban Christianity because look at what happened in Colorado with that Planned Parenthood. Terrorism. Also, we need to ban Atheism because the "dark knight" guy in Aurora was an Atheist.....I bet that's where he got the ideas. See, if only the non-violent Christians and non-violent Atheists had done something to prevent this type of terrorism, it'd be OK. But, they don't stop it, so we need to ban their philosophies as well. So glad someone had the courage to say it.
/bitter sarcasm
Seriously, how in the fuck is this moderated as "Insightful". You sir, are an idiot.
Look at the polls of him vs Clinton in a theoretical general. He most certainly does.
He most certainly does not.
And no, he does not have good ideas. It's been pretty well documented by some pretty smart folks that his policies would be financial suicide for our country. His ideas go beyond protectionism and instead veer out into utter fantasy.
Dude, you need therapy. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is not a smart strategy. But, hey, maybe you're into that kind of thing. It's OK. He has no chance at winning the General Election anyway.
Wait. So you honestly believe that the guy who has bankrupted several of his own companies, the guy who is encouraging physical violence at his rallies, the guy advocating for targeting Muslims, and the guy advocating for spending billions and billions of dollars on building a wall is the LESSER of two evils? I'm not saying the Clintons are without sin, absolutely they've got some dirty laundry. But man, it's a real stretch calling Trump the lesser of those two "evils".
Which version of Sonar were you using, if you don't mind? I've been a long-time user, and I've become so very comfortable with the environment. I'm running X1 Producer, and it is a VERY capable DAW. I have scored 4 independent films using it. Great VST integration, excellent effects suites, automation is great, all the things you'd want.
Wait. You believe that story? You actually think that you can scream loud enough into a phone to rupture someone's ear drum?
Dude, seriously, think about this for a minute. There is NO WAY that happened.
Interesting. I didn't intend on writing this to be an anti-Microsoft thing, but you're the second person to reply assuming I was. I was not intending on bashing Microsoft just as a reflex. Sure, I'm guilty of criticizing some of their less desirable traits, but I do the same for Apple, Google, Facebook, etc.
Now you may be right, of course, but here's where my (perhaps limited) mind is taking me: OK, so you connect local folks to this submarine data center. What can it have in it? Maybe a few hundred terrabytes of storage or something, right? So what would be stored there that is of value or how would that be useful to the local folks? I mean, maybe it's a switching mechanism/router point so it serves as a "mini-internet" to serve that local area. Otherwise, maybe it's just a cloud resource for the remote people to store their vacation photos or something.
Again, I'm not dumping on Microsoft, and I'm not saying that this is absolutely a bad idea, I just don't understand what it would be for.
Now, as for the passive cooling, I'm taking issue. You can either use geo-thermal cooling on land to have the same "free" cooling, or you can use simple air side economization to achieve the same thing (somewhat dependent on geographical location, of course). True, there would be SOME construction costs on land, but you could just put it in a parking lot in all honesty. On top of that, it's not like it's going to put itself down on the bottom of the ocean. There is probably going to be some pretty significant cost to lower it down, anchor it, attach cabling, etc. Tidal power is a possibility, but that technology is still pretty being refined. Yes, it's possible, but I don't know that they've got it down to where it could be applied reliably on the sea floor.
TLDR: I'm just a skeptic who may not understand all of the angles, and I'm not dumping on Microsoft.
Perhaps for some, but not for me. Now it may be that there is a perfectly good application, and I just need to understand it better. But for me, I don't understand its value, regardless of who's developing it.
I agree. I also have to say that this qualifies for the "just because something is difficult to do, does not mean it's worth doing" award. I honestly do not get the fucking point. They say it's to potentially serve remote areas. With what ? A can under the ocean, with some servers and drives in it? I mean, if it has a fiber line going to the local network on the island or whatever, OK, you have your connectivity to land, but what about everywhere else? Are they gonna splice into an intercontinental backbone cable?
I guess I just don't get the value. If it is intended to be a node to connect that remote area to the internet, then I would ask why put the node connection underwater (and inaccessible, as you point out)? Wouldn't it be easier, cheaper, faster to deploy that on land?
You might wanna check out that teeny little town, Charlotte. I mean, I know it's only bigger than Pittsburgh, Raleigh, Cleveland and other small cities, but you'd be surprised at how things are coming together there.
Also, while not a big town, you're not going to get much more progressive than Asheville. It's a great town, and I recommend checking it out if you get the chance.
Wish I had mod points. Very well stated.
Sure, no problem. there are closed type systems, but when you have Cooling Towers, it's an open system. That is, there's a secondary chilled water loop that circulates inside, and it dumps its head into the primary loop through a plate and frame heat exchanger. The primary loop gets pumped out to the cooling towers, where it goes through the cooling tower "fill" which is a scheme of different diverter surfaces to separate the water into thin streams running along flat surfaces. Outside air is then drawn across the fill, and that removes the heat and aids in evaporation of the water. Any water that is evaporated away is replaced with fresh "makeup water".
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As the water is being drawn across the fill, it starts to evaporate and also atomize (meaning that the streams of water break up into tiny droplets that are technically still liquid, but are light enough to be carried away in the moving air stream). As these water droplets are pulled into the outside air, they can be carried anywhere. Often, cooling towers are located on the roof of buildings. The other thing that you'll often see on the roof is the building exhaust fans and the fresh air make up fans. If the fresh air makeup fan inlets are located anywhere near the cooling tower, it is very possible to have those same tiny water droplets get sucked into the intake, and pumped into the building along with the fresh air makeup.
Mechanical Engineers usually design the location of these intakes to be far enough away form the Cooling Towers to prevent infiltration, but wind currents can be a little hard to predict. Also, if the Cooling Tower isn't being operated correctly, there can be more water atomization than there should be. For example, if the Variable Frequency Drives (VFDs) that control the Cooling Tower Fan speed isn't set up right, it can run too fast and pull out more water droplets than it should be (this should ordinarily be kept to a minimum because makeup water isn't cheap, and it's not "green" to use too much water).
Hope that helps.
What exactly do these cool? Do they cool water or act like an AC?
I've been managing facilities and staff to maintain cooling towers for years. I've personally cleaned them, I've personally maintained them, and I've personally been responsible for the water treatment/chemistry as part of their operational and preventive maintenance.
The answer to your question is, they technically cool water, which is then piped back into a building(s) and used as a "heat sink" for any air conditioning/refrigeration equipment inside the building. In your home air conditioner, you have the box with the fan that sits outside. This box is called the"condenser". The condenser's job is to release any heat that is removed from inside the house. In that type of mechanical refrigeration, the refrigerant (R-22, colloquially called Freon) is compressed to allow for a controlled evaporation cycle inside the indoor unit (the evaporator). As the refrigerant absorbs heat from inside the home, it is pumped outside to the condenser where it releases the head into the air (in this case, the outside air is the "heat sink"). That is, the fan on the condenser pulls outside air across the coils where the hot refrigerant is being pumped, and the heat transfers to the outside air, cooling your house.
In large commercial applications, it is often more efficient to use water based systems to achieve this. In this method, the refrigerant that has absorbed the heat from inside the facility is dumped into what's called "condenser water". The water absorbs the heat, and the cooled refrigerant goes back to the air conditioning systems in the building to absorb more heat. The condenser water is pumped up to the cooling towers where it is filtered through several screens while large fans pull outside air across them (similar to the home system). The combination of the water flow patterns, air velocity, and evaporation will cool this condenser water, allowing for it to be sent back to the indoor air conditioning systems so that it can absorb more heat and start the cycle again.
I mention all of this to say this: the ONLY reason this type of contamination is happening is because of improper maintenance. Period. Water treatment systems are just about idiot proof. So, while we may not hear about it, I guarantee someone, somewhere took a short cut. Maybe it was the end of the fiscal quarter and someone was under pressure to save money, so they postponed the delivery of the aquastat chemicals for a couple of weeks to make budget. Maybe a maintenance engineer didn't really do his rounds inspection that day and so he didn't see that one of the chemical feeder pumps had tripped out on overload. Maybe the maintenance workers didn't want to spend a few hours inside one of these steamy boxes cleaning out additional algae buildup. It's not a glamorous job to say the least, but not terribly difficult in the grand scheme.
People should not only lose their jobs and licenses for this, people absolutely deserve litigation for this. This is nothing short of negligence.
You are spot on. I worked for HP (well, technically, I worked for their 3rd party Facilities Management company who ran their Data Centers for them) for 3 years. I was initially with EDS, and was with them through the transition to HP. I can tell you from direct experience that you're exactly right with regard to the "legacy EDS" section of the company.
The number of old timers who were just hanging on in the old EDS world was staggering. I think it was a product of EDS getting really big during the 90's, getting some really large accounts, coming out of the dot com bust, and just frantically trying to keep its business afloat. That is, they were so scatterbrained that they quite honestly had no idea what they were doing, who did what, who paid for what, etc. It was a tangled mess.
I had worked for EDS for 4 years prior, but had left them, and I came back as HP came in thinking that maybe they could straighten things out. After a few years, I realized that the ship was sinking, and nothing was gonna save it. This is just the inevitable fall that they can't put off any more. There aren't enough buckets to bail out the water. This is a last ditch effort, but frankly, it's probably too late. All of these middle managers pulling down nice six figure salaries for years and years to essentially be responsible for nothing has just sucked the life blood out of the organization. The few good people you have left are so demoralized that I doubt there's any hope.
My bet is that after the split, HP ES will continue its death spiral, and someone will buy them trying to put it back together. They'll be buying them for the contracts they still have that are worthwhile, the patents they hold, and some of their infrastructure, and it'll be for pennies on the dollar.
Man, I hope you're being facetious.
This should not be modded troll, you're spot on, dude. The only people who don't understand this are a) non-artists and b) cheap assholes who like to steal whatever they can get away with.