either you give them your information, or they have no idea who you are.
I think that by choosing to go to a country, you are giving them permission to know who you are.
If you don't want a country to know who you are (for whatever reason), don't go to that country.
It's really that simple.
I'm an American, and it wouldn't stop me from travelling to another country. I think it's a reasonable request that they know who I am.. after all, I am a guest in their country.
I should have probably also mentioned that those elite universities, take up half of the governments funding for the country university system... ie: the 4 or so universities where all of the politicians, rich, well connected people go get half of the funding.. all of the other universities where the millions of regular folk go get what's left over.
Nice system they have there.. isn't it?
France has it's top-notch universities too, that are on par with U.S. top universities.. but minus those few universities (which only the elite can attend) most are crap... Per uni student, France spends only 1/4th of what it spends per high school student. For the most part students must attend the university that is in the same town as their high school (no matter how bad that uni may be). Student services are virtually non-existant, and dorms are severely overcrowded..
(French students see a uni education as an entitlement.. and any suggestion they pay even a reduced amount for their education is met with immediate rejection...)
And lets face it.. when the state is funding education for everyone, they are going to pay less than if everyone just paid for their education. There is always a downward pressure on how much the state puts into the system. They see a bill each year for billions, and they are always going to look for ways to cut that amount.
French students are taught only theory, which leaves them with little real-world knowledge they can use on the job or to get a job.
Their education is very specific... if you get a degree in sociology (which is a popular degree in France), you are only taught things that apply to sociology.. After you graduate, you will either get a job in sociology, or you will be unemployed (you can't get a degree in one thing, and go get a job doing something else).
While I realize this may be different in Sweden, there is one effect described in the article which applies to any country where a uni degree is free: Because virtually everyone has a degree, they are worthless.
Despite what most people believe, in the U.S. only 20% or so of the population has an education above high school (you can look this up in the Census if you don't believe me).
Now imagine if everyone had a college degree: it would be as valued as a high school education in the U.S. (ie: not at all).
Even if by some miracle the above doesn't apply to Sweden... Just telling me they pay for you to go to college doesn't tell me anything. I certainly wouldn't get up and move because of it.
if you don't want to agree to the conditions the rest of the world sets.. don't complain when they decide to stop donating money to you..
remember.. they aren't entitled to a free handout.
OTOH, one could make the distinction between (for example) HP or Dell, which are built by Taiwainese companies, and Lenovo, which is Mainland Chinese, if you're really worried about embedded tracking devices, etc, but that's still a political, rather than a technical argument.
What does it matter if the concern is technical or political? We don't have enemies or allies for technical reasons. We don't say 'Well the Nazi's invented the rocket, and seem to be making a lot of other technical advancements, so we'll ally with them'.
The difference between Taiwan and China may be political, but it is still an important distinction. One is our ally, the other is not. One is security concern, may threaten America in the future, and could lead to a war. The other is a small country that relies on America to protect it from China, and is an ally.
Who is more likely to spy on America? An enemy or an ally with close ties to America?
Who is more likely to use that information to hurt America? An enemy or an ally that depends on America for its defence?
Who would we rather have that information? An enemy who could use that information in a war, or an ally?
You would not go to your enemy for goods.. why should America?
hey, I know.. how about this: don't take illicit substances, and maybe you'll remember wtf you were doing when the crime happened.. then you could actually defend yourself.
you're just making up international law. They were caught on the battle field resisting a foreign military. They are not PoWs because they don't follow the general rules and customs of war.. They are not civilians because they were caught fighting during the war. They don't get access to courts just because you say so.
In order to be considered prisoners of war, they must "respect the laws and customs of war". It doesn't matter if they were captured on the battlefield if they do not respect the laws and customs of war.
Are seriously suggesting suicide bombings, civilian kidnappings, etc are part of the normal customs of war?
They were captured on the field of battle in Afghanistan.
Yes, they were captured in Afghanistan, where we are still fighting ununiformed soldiers, who pledge allegiance to the same groups that these captured soldiers pledged allegiance to.
Therefore, we are still fighting the same group these captured soldiers belong to, and they cannot be released until the war is over.
he isn't saying we should be more like China.. he's saying Google spent millions to do the _wrong_ thing in China, but won't spend a dime to do the _right_ thing in America.
Uh.. Janet Jackson nipple slip?
Vchip or not.. the TV stations are not allowed to broadcast illegal material, and are held responsible when something slips through.
It's not about blocking vs not blocking.. it's about right vs wrong. ie: he's saying: Google spent millions to do the wrong thing in China, but won't spend a single dime to do the right thing in America.
6. Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war.
Terrorists do not respect the laws or customs of war. They regularly kidnap civilians, carry out executions of civilians, etc, etc, etc.
But lets say you are right.. they are still classified as prisoners of war.
If the terrorists are legitimate soldiers, then the war is not over. We are still fighting those "soldiers" in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Therefore the conflict is not over, and those "soldiers" cannot be returned to the country or released. They must be detained until the conflict has ended.
Your post is filled with lies (you say you voted in a country where you cannot vote) and propaganda (must sacrifice freedoms; opposition to the state = dangerous person)... I just have one question:
What do you want them to do; mention every contractor who worked on Hubble in every press release, announcement, or mention of hubble?
They certainly aren't trying to hide the fact that Lockheed, Perkin-Elmer, and many other companies worked on Hubble:
A Brief History of the Hubble Space Telescope The following year, design of the telescope began in earnest, with the award of contracts to the Perkin-Elmer Corporation to construct the mirror and optical assembly and the Lockheed Missiles and Space Company to construct the spacecraft and its support systems.
NASA history: Hubble Space Telescope: Page 1, Paragraph 4: Perkin-Elmer Corporation in Danbury, Connecticut, was chosen to develop the optical system and guidance sensors. Lockheed Missiles and Space Company of Sunnyvale, California, was selected to produce the protective outer shroud and the spacecraft systems for the telescope, as well as to assemble and test the finished product.
How did this get modded up? It's completely false.
If you google now for "TRW Hubble" you'll find a whole bunch of articles mentioning that TRW was selected to build JWST, "Hubble replacement", but not too many mentioning that we did actually built the original Hubble.
So either everyone is covering up the work TRW did on Hubble, or you are wrong.. I'm going to go with the latter...
Lockheed was the primary contractor.. they produced the protective outer shroud and the support systems module, and assembled and integrated everything. Perkin-Elmer produced the mirror.
Who is talking about the media? Do you really think any of the 80,000+ protests in China were covered by the media? Free Speech Zone or not, I've seen more protests on TV in the last few weeks than most Chinese have seen in decades.
you could certainly try.. maybe get a friend who works at MS to sneak some code out or something..
But because Linux is open source, it would be easier for MS to take the latest features/developments/code from Linux and use it in Windows. Linux developers looking to use code from Windows would first have to find a way to obtain the code.
And we may still be locked into a certain vendor: support contracts, file formats (if open source developers couldn't reverse engineer them fast enough), selection of applications available for each operating system, etc.
did it ever occur to you that she feels that way because she does not have to live under the Chinese government?
It's all the same to her: 1) she isn't being persecuted by the U.S. gov. 2) she isn't being persecuted by the Chinese gov.
Of course, 2 is only because she (and her family) had the money to leave.
In China things are certainly different. There is a large (and growing) number of people who are upset with their government:
Number of mass protests in China: 2004: 74,000 2005: 80,000
And these are official numbers.. released by the Chinese government. Feel free to lookup numbers for the past several years.. you'll see the number of protests are growing each year.
So who are the protesters? Almost all of them are Peasants. Those who are the poorest, also happen to have the fewest rights.
So ask yourself: when was the last time you saw that many protests in the U.S.? When was the last time you saw the poor protesting because of their treatment?
Yeah, it's all the same to her..... as long as she doesn't have to live there.
Wow.. you have veto rights over U.S. laws, and can dictate how the U.S. governs its people?
Oh.. you don't.. so it doesn't really matter what you think about the U.S.
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either you give them your information, or they have no idea who you are. I think that by choosing to go to a country, you are giving them permission to know who you are. If you don't want a country to know who you are (for whatever reason), don't go to that country. It's really that simple.
I'm an American, and it wouldn't stop me from travelling to another country. I think it's a reasonable request that they know who I am.. after all, I am a guest in their country.
I should have probably also mentioned that those elite universities, take up half of the governments funding for the country university system... ie: the 4 or so universities where all of the politicians, rich, well connected people go get half of the funding.. all of the other universities where the millions of regular folk go get what's left over. Nice system they have there.. isn't it?
when I say elite.. I meant rich.. in case you were thinking academically elite
France has it's top-notch universities too, that are on par with U.S. top universities.. but minus those few universities (which only the elite can attend) most are crap... Per uni student, France spends only 1/4th of what it spends per high school student. For the most part students must attend the university that is in the same town as their high school (no matter how bad that uni may be). Student services are virtually non-existant, and dorms are severely overcrowded..
(French students see a uni education as an entitlement.. and any suggestion they pay even a reduced amount for their education is met with immediate rejection...)
And lets face it.. when the state is funding education for everyone, they are going to pay less than if everyone just paid for their education. There is always a downward pressure on how much the state puts into the system. They see a bill each year for billions, and they are always going to look for ways to cut that amount.
French students are taught only theory, which leaves them with little real-world knowledge they can use on the job or to get a job.
Their education is very specific... if you get a degree in sociology (which is a popular degree in France), you are only taught things that apply to sociology.. After you graduate, you will either get a job in sociology, or you will be unemployed (you can't get a degree in one thing, and go get a job doing something else).
While I realize this may be different in Sweden, there is one effect described in the article which applies to any country where a uni degree is free: Because virtually everyone has a degree, they are worthless.
Despite what most people believe, in the U.S. only 20% or so of the population has an education above high school (you can look this up in the Census if you don't believe me).
Now imagine if everyone had a college degree: it would be as valued as a high school education in the U.S. (ie: not at all).
Even if by some miracle the above doesn't apply to Sweden... Just telling me they pay for you to go to college doesn't tell me anything. I certainly wouldn't get up and move because of it.
In France they also pay you to go to college.. but that is also part of the reason why the education system is shit. See this article in the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/12/world/europe/12f rance.html?th&emc=th
And actually read the article before you respond... it's a lot worse than here in the U.S.
if you don't want to agree to the conditions the rest of the world sets.. don't complain when they decide to stop donating money to you.. remember.. they aren't entitled to a free handout.
What does it matter if the concern is technical or political? We don't have enemies or allies for technical reasons. We don't say 'Well the Nazi's invented the rocket, and seem to be making a lot of other technical advancements, so we'll ally with them'.
The difference between Taiwan and China may be political, but it is still an important distinction. One is our ally, the other is not. One is security concern, may threaten America in the future, and could lead to a war. The other is a small country that relies on America to protect it from China, and is an ally.
Who is more likely to spy on America? An enemy or an ally with close ties to America?
Who is more likely to use that information to hurt America? An enemy or an ally that depends on America for its defence?
Who would we rather have that information? An enemy who could use that information in a war, or an ally?
You would not go to your enemy for goods.. why should America?
original quote by Martin Niemöller
hey, I know.. how about this: don't take illicit substances, and maybe you'll remember wtf you were doing when the crime happened.. then you could actually defend yourself.
you're just making up international law. They were caught on the battle field resisting a foreign military. They are not PoWs because they don't follow the general rules and customs of war.. They are not civilians because they were caught fighting during the war. They don't get access to courts just because you say so.
In order to be considered prisoners of war, they must "respect the laws and customs of war". It doesn't matter if they were captured on the battlefield if they do not respect the laws and customs of war.
Are seriously suggesting suicide bombings, civilian kidnappings, etc are part of the normal customs of war?
They were captured on the field of battle in Afghanistan.
Yes, they were captured in Afghanistan, where we are still fighting ununiformed soldiers, who pledge allegiance to the same groups that these captured soldiers pledged allegiance to.
Therefore, we are still fighting the same group these captured soldiers belong to, and they cannot be released until the war is over.
he isn't saying we should be more like China.. he's saying Google spent millions to do the _wrong_ thing in China, but won't spend a dime to do the _right_ thing in America.
Uh.. Janet Jackson nipple slip? Vchip or not.. the TV stations are not allowed to broadcast illegal material, and are held responsible when something slips through.
It's not about blocking vs not blocking.. it's about right vs wrong. ie: he's saying: Google spent millions to do the wrong thing in China, but won't spend a single dime to do the right thing in America.
That isn't contradictory at all.
Terrorists do not respect the laws or customs of war. They regularly kidnap civilians, carry out executions of civilians, etc, etc, etc.
But lets say you are right.. they are still classified as prisoners of war.
If the terrorists are legitimate soldiers, then the war is not over. We are still fighting those "soldiers" in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Therefore the conflict is not over, and those "soldiers" cannot be returned to the country or released. They must be detained until the conflict has ended.
Your post is filled with lies (you say you voted in a country where you cannot vote) and propaganda (must sacrifice freedoms; opposition to the state = dangerous person)... I just have one question:
Do you enjoy your job with the PRC?
Thanks
What do you want them to do; mention every contractor who worked on Hubble in every press release, announcement, or mention of hubble?
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They certainly aren't trying to hide the fact that Lockheed, Perkin-Elmer, and many other companies worked on Hubble:
A Brief History of the Hubble Space Telescope
The following year, design of the telescope began in earnest, with the award of contracts to the Perkin-Elmer Corporation to construct the mirror and optical assembly and the Lockheed Missiles and Space Company to construct the spacecraft and its support systems.
NASA history: Hubble Space Telescope:
Page 1, Paragraph 4:
Perkin-Elmer Corporation in Danbury, Connecticut, was chosen to develop the optical system and guidance sensors. Lockheed Missiles and Space Company of Sunnyvale, California, was selected to produce the protective outer shroud and the spacecraft systems for the telescope, as well as to assemble and test the finished product.
NASA Hubble Team Receives International Academy of Astronautics Award (2004)
LOCKHEED MARTIN HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE TEAMS RECEIVE NASA HONORS (2005)
A DECADE OF DISCOVERY: HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE -- THE DISCOVERIES AND THE PEOPLE (2000):
Lockheed Martin, manufacturer of the Hubble Space Telescope,
NOTE TO EDITORS: MEDIA INVITED TO JOIN IN PUBLIC CELEBRATION OF TEN YEARS OF THE HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE (2000):
Lockheed Martin, manufacturer of the Hubble Space Telescope,
Google search for "site:nasa.gov lockheed hubble":
Results 1 - 10 of about 14,400 from nasa.gov
So either everyone is covering up the work TRW did on Hubble, or you are wrong.. I'm going to go with the latter...
Lockheed was the primary contractor.. they produced the protective outer shroud and the support systems module, and assembled and integrated everything. Perkin-Elmer produced the mirror.
http://www.sciencepresse.qc.ca/clafleur/HST-Histo
http://sm3a.gsfc.nasa.gov/messages/78.html
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findPage.do?dsp
Who is talking about the media? Do you really think any of the 80,000+ protests in China were covered by the media? Free Speech Zone or not, I've seen more protests on TV in the last few weeks than most Chinese have seen in decades.
you could certainly try.. maybe get a friend who works at MS to sneak some code out or something..
But because Linux is open source, it would be easier for MS to take the latest features/developments/code from Linux and use it in Windows. Linux developers looking to use code from Windows would first have to find a way to obtain the code.
And we may still be locked into a certain vendor: support contracts, file formats (if open source developers couldn't reverse engineer them fast enough), selection of applications available for each operating system, etc.
did it ever occur to you that she feels that way because she does not have to live under the Chinese government?
It's all the same to her:
1) she isn't being persecuted by the U.S. gov.
2) she isn't being persecuted by the Chinese gov.
Of course, 2 is only because she (and her family) had the money to leave.
In China things are certainly different. There is a large (and growing) number of people who are upset with their government:
Number of mass protests in China:
2004: 74,000
2005: 80,000
And these are official numbers.. released by the Chinese government. Feel free to lookup numbers for the past several years.. you'll see the number of protests are growing each year.
So who are the protesters? Almost all of them are Peasants. Those who are the poorest, also happen to have the fewest rights.
So ask yourself: when was the last time you saw that many protests in the U.S.? When was the last time you saw the poor protesting because of their treatment?
Yeah, it's all the same to her..... as long as she doesn't have to live there.
Wow.. you have veto rights over U.S. laws, and can dictate how the U.S. governs its people? Oh.. you don't.. so it doesn't really matter what you think about the U.S.
I agree with you.. but your GDP % is way off:
/ us.html#Econ/ xx.html#Econ
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos
US GDP (PPP): $12.41 trillion
World GDP (PPP): $59.59 trillion
Therefore: US = 21% of GWP