Back when I was growing up, a Saturday matinee cost $0.25. That said, I still enjoy going to the movies. If the studios want to make more money, why don't they keep showing movies in the theater? As it is, most movies I'll have to see at home on the TV because I didn't have the chance to see them when they were in the theater.
11:50pm-12:00am Call local BBSs, make moves in Space Empire to initiate attack another system. Buddy/ally does same. (as do your slave accounts)
12:01am-12:10am Use fresh Space Empire turns for the new day to complete sneak attack. Double fists of fury!
The only way to play! I used to play this on the old Citadel networks. Brings back memories...
Or maybe SuSE isn't quite as good as Red Hat or Debian
That may be the case. The dependency problems I had with SuSE were not casued by RPM; they were caused by trying to use RPMs not packaged by SuSE. I've read most of the documentaion for RPM. I can see why Red Hat wouldn't have problems. RPM is a powerful program, it's just not used well by SuSE.
The Gentoo Portage system works well, though I expect a few replies from BSD people who disagree...:)
LSB was created to help with binary compatibility. Binary compatibility is important. For most users, the alternative is to restrict themselves to the software provided by their distribution. I agree that the LSB does not do much. However, I'm not sure I want a standard that restricts the distribution to the point of being a mirror copy of every other distribution. I certainly don't want a standard that says I have to have RPM, Yast, or apt-get. I also don't want a standard that says I can't use iproute2, parallel initialization, or my own wireless network script.
so long as you pick one of the "big three" (Debian, Red Hat/Fedora, SuSE), you will have very little package/software install trouble.
I can't say much about Debian as I've only used it to a limited degree. However, I think it's interesting that you list SuSE.
Back when I ran SuSE, I'd find a multimedia application or game that I wanted to install. Try the binary RPM and it would complain about all sorts of missing dependencies because SuSE includes the package version in the package name. Tell Yast to ignore dependences and it still wouldn't run. Download the source and run./configure && make and the program would run just fine.
Of course, as this happened more and more, I ran into the problem of having NO management for my software. That's when I started looking into Gentoo. It was the best of both worlds. Now I can install anything that compiles and easily update or uninstall it.
Been a while since I've seen this cut-and-past troll. Last time it was an article on the Linux Kernel. Wish I had time to find the last post. It was word-for-word. But I'm at work...
Of the advanced Excel use I've seen, most have been limited to themselves or a small group. For example you can run a lot of fancy models to decide on a budget, but you don't need to communicate much more than the final numbers to accounting.
I wonder what a study on Excel uses would produce. From my experience, you would find a lot more people using it as a form generator or limited database than for accounting.
Several years ago I was debating between several spreadsheet programs. I tried Gnumeric and it kept crashing on large spreadsheets. StarOffice handled them just fine. Gnumeric may have fixed this problem by now. However, I took the time to learn StarOffice, now OpenOffice, and have it installed on all of my systems. For me, it would no longer be a question of which spreadsheet to use under Linux. It would be a question of which spreadsheet would justify uninstalling Open Office.
That said, having a single anything is bad. I'm glad Gnumeric is still around and being improved upon. Let's hope it gives some competition to OpenOffice to improve their product.
While this doesn't address the intent of your post... I believe it goes back to organizations like MADD. A group of mothers that have successfully made drinking any amount of alcohol, and driving, illegal in most parts of the US. They succeeded despite studies that show a single beer will not impare your driving and most accidents are caused by severally drunk drivers.
The Office suite as a monolithic application was really a marketing innovation, not something that was user driven.
While times have changed, the office suite as a monolithic application was originally driven by users. Users that wanted to be able to insert spreadsheets and drawings into their text documents, make changes, and have those changes reflected back into the source documents. Something that wasn't possible in DOS, and not really possible in Windows 3.0, without an office suite.
While I agree with you that MSOffice does keep a lot of business people on Windows, the arguement that _BLANK_ software package is what keeps people on Windows can be applied to a lot of different software. Using this arguement, I think 3D games would be the most important group of open source projects. 3D games are the only reason I still keep an XP partition.
As for Open Office and MSOffice compatibility... I was asked to evaluate Open Office a few years ago (I stress, a few years ago). I couldn't recommend it as a replacement for MSOffice for lack of two features that were used a lot in the department. At the time, two people couldn't make changes to the same spreadsheet at the same time. I'm not sure if this has changed. The other feature was a grammer checker. I know this is still missing. Say what you will about grammer checkers. They are indispensable when dealing with a large department of people that have better things to do than proof read what they want on site. All too often the attitude was "just get it up, we'll worry about errors latter."
Makeing one with java that looks like the rest and doesnt seem to offer anything unique seems pointless to me.
Seems to me that if you wanted to put together a distro that uses as much Java as possible, this program would be very attractive. Doesn't Sun have a Java-based distro?
I currently run Gentoo on a Dell C610. I haven't played around with suspend yet, but everying else (including wireless networking, ASPI, CPU throttling, etc.) works fine. I've found the C610 to be a good machine for Linux.
I wouldn't be particularly surprised if the next major version of DirectX was only for Vista and new games required it.
That's one thing I don't get. Why would you couple a resource hungry application (lastest game) with a resource hungry operating system (Windows Vista)?
Maybe Slashdot posters are NOT the target audience?
Of course Slashdot posters are not the target audience. We know enough about computers to know Window's Vista is of the garbage dump. It does make you wonder though; Who is the target? Concidering most people will have to buy a new computer just to support the minimum specs, why advertise? It's been a long time since I've seen an Apple computer ad. I've never seen a Linux ad. I'd say they are competing with themselves (Windows XP), but as I said, you need a new computer to run it. All new computers will come with it. So, what's the point?
I've heard that IDC is respected. I'm just not sure why. About 10 years ago I stopped reading PCWorld and stopped recommending it to others. This is because I had a manager that read this magazine. About once a month I'd have to go in and reinstall Windows because he had made some tweek, recommended by PCWorld, that would completely hose his system. I'd also have to explain why some future sounding technology that PCWorld was raving about wouldn't work as a solution to our current problems. Now granted, this manager was an idiot. However, it's a real headache when you have to deal with idiots feeding idiots information. Has the journalistic quality of PCWorld improved any over the last 10 years? Are their other publications of higher quality? I've never read MacWorld.
I always thought it was interesting that the University of Utah sits on a major fault line. A lot of biological research goes on at the UofU. The fault line in question is several years overdue for a quake, and it's supposed to be a major one.
Despite an outcry from some developers, users have picked it up with passion.
As I recall, the developers were upset because of the way he went about makeing Gimp look like Photoshop. Rather than making changes to the data files that are used to create the menus, he changed to programing itself. This (going by memory) broke foreign language support. As I recall, Scott wrote the Gimp team and sent his suggestions. The Gimp team wrote back and invited him to join a discustion group. However, Scott decided to fork Gimp and make the changes himself. This of course leaves maintenance up to Scott. I hope he's up to it.
Um, what are you talking about? The GP poster said:
I for one got into more trouble than I care to remember during my teens and twens and didn't turn out to be public enemy #1. Like it or not, some smart kids will always try to push the envelope and although I believe that the 11 months will probably well spent I also wonder if some serious public service wouldn't have been a better verdict.
Bani disagreed and tried to make the kids crime worse because of 9-11. I agreed with the GP poster and I'm tired of people trying to tie 9-11 into everything. 9-11 dramaticly changed our political landscape. However, to say a kids crime is worse because 9-11 happened is just wrong. I might have agreed when everyone was frightened that terrorists were invading and setting bombs in every house. However, even that panic has been over for years. 9-11 happened 4 years ago. It's time to move on.
even as a juvenile, it takes a real kind of asshole to make bomb threats post 9/11.
It could be argued that it takes a juvenile delinquent to make bomb threats. However, I don't think many juveniles care one way or the other about 9/11. Unless they were directly involved, it's something that happened years ago. 9/11 is mostly political now, and not many juveniles care much about politics.
It's a good thing he has been sentenced to 11 months in a juvenile facility. When he gets out, he'll be fully trained and able to get a job as a professional felon.
And then he mentions home pages...just out of curiosity, do any of you use a home page? What do you use it for?
At work, it's set to the Corporate Intranet start page. However, I haven't really found a use for it at home, at least in Firefox. In Konq., Home is set to ~/. But Konq. is both a file and Web browser.
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Back when I was growing up, a Saturday matinee cost $0.25. That said, I still enjoy going to the movies. If the studios want to make more money, why don't they keep showing movies in the theater? As it is, most movies I'll have to see at home on the TV because I didn't have the chance to see them when they were in the theater.
11:50pm-12:00am Call local BBSs, make moves in Space Empire to initiate attack another system. Buddy/ally does same. (as do your slave accounts)
12:01am-12:10am Use fresh Space Empire turns for the new day to complete sneak attack. Double fists of fury!
The only way to play! I used to play this on the old Citadel networks. Brings back memories...
Hmmm... How long ago was you SuSE experience?
:)
I ran SuSE from 7.3 to 9.2.
Or maybe SuSE isn't quite as good as Red Hat or Debian
That may be the case. The dependency problems I had with SuSE were not casued by RPM; they were caused by trying to use RPMs not packaged by SuSE. I've read most of the documentaion for RPM. I can see why Red Hat wouldn't have problems. RPM is a powerful program, it's just not used well by SuSE.
The Gentoo Portage system works well, though I expect a few replies from BSD people who disagree...
LSB was created to help with binary compatibility. Binary compatibility is important. For most users, the alternative is to restrict themselves to the software provided by their distribution. I agree that the LSB does not do much. However, I'm not sure I want a standard that restricts the distribution to the point of being a mirror copy of every other distribution. I certainly don't want a standard that says I have to have RPM, Yast, or apt-get. I also don't want a standard that says I can't use iproute2, parallel initialization, or my own wireless network script.
so long as you pick one of the "big three" (Debian, Red Hat/Fedora, SuSE), you will have very little package/software install trouble.
./configure && make and the program would run just fine.
I can't say much about Debian as I've only used it to a limited degree. However, I think it's interesting that you list SuSE.
Back when I ran SuSE, I'd find a multimedia application or game that I wanted to install. Try the binary RPM and it would complain about all sorts of missing dependencies because SuSE includes the package version in the package name. Tell Yast to ignore dependences and it still wouldn't run. Download the source and run
Of course, as this happened more and more, I ran into the problem of having NO management for my software. That's when I started looking into Gentoo. It was the best of both worlds. Now I can install anything that compiles and easily update or uninstall it.
Been a while since I've seen this cut-and-past troll. Last time it was an article on the Linux Kernel. Wish I had time to find the last post. It was word-for-word. But I'm at work...
Of the advanced Excel use I've seen, most have been limited to themselves or a small group. For example you can run a lot of fancy models to decide on a budget, but you don't need to communicate much more than the final numbers to accounting.
I wonder what a study on Excel uses would produce. From my experience, you would find a lot more people using it as a form generator or limited database than for accounting.
Several years ago I was debating between several spreadsheet programs. I tried Gnumeric and it kept crashing on large spreadsheets. StarOffice handled them just fine. Gnumeric may have fixed this problem by now. However, I took the time to learn StarOffice, now OpenOffice, and have it installed on all of my systems. For me, it would no longer be a question of which spreadsheet to use under Linux. It would be a question of which spreadsheet would justify uninstalling Open Office.
That said, having a single anything is bad. I'm glad Gnumeric is still around and being improved upon. Let's hope it gives some competition to OpenOffice to improve their product.
Why does the Motherhood of these women matter?
While this doesn't address the intent of your post... I believe it goes back to organizations like MADD. A group of mothers that have successfully made drinking any amount of alcohol, and driving, illegal in most parts of the US. They succeeded despite studies that show a single beer will not impare your driving and most accidents are caused by severally drunk drivers.
The Office suite as a monolithic application was really a marketing innovation, not something that was user driven.
While times have changed, the office suite as a monolithic application was originally driven by users. Users that wanted to be able to insert spreadsheets and drawings into their text documents, make changes, and have those changes reflected back into the source documents. Something that wasn't possible in DOS, and not really possible in Windows 3.0, without an office suite.
While I agree with you that MSOffice does keep a lot of business people on Windows, the arguement that _BLANK_ software package is what keeps people on Windows can be applied to a lot of different software. Using this arguement, I think 3D games would be the most important group of open source projects. 3D games are the only reason I still keep an XP partition.
As for Open Office and MSOffice compatibility... I was asked to evaluate Open Office a few years ago (I stress, a few years ago). I couldn't recommend it as a replacement for MSOffice for lack of two features that were used a lot in the department. At the time, two people couldn't make changes to the same spreadsheet at the same time. I'm not sure if this has changed. The other feature was a grammer checker. I know this is still missing. Say what you will about grammer checkers. They are indispensable when dealing with a large department of people that have better things to do than proof read what they want on site. All too often the attitude was "just get it up, we'll worry about errors latter."
Makeing one with java that looks like the rest and doesnt seem to offer anything unique seems pointless to me.
Seems to me that if you wanted to put together a distro that uses as much Java as possible, this program would be very attractive. Doesn't Sun have a Java-based distro?
I currently run Gentoo on a Dell C610. I haven't played around with suspend yet, but everying else (including wireless networking, ASPI, CPU throttling, etc.) works fine. I've found the C610 to be a good machine for Linux.
I wouldn't be particularly surprised if the next major version of DirectX was only for Vista and new games required it.
That's one thing I don't get. Why would you couple a resource hungry application (lastest game) with a resource hungry operating system (Windows Vista)?
Maybe Slashdot posters are NOT the target audience?
Of course Slashdot posters are not the target audience. We know enough about computers to know Window's Vista is of the garbage dump. It does make you wonder though; Who is the target? Concidering most people will have to buy a new computer just to support the minimum specs, why advertise? It's been a long time since I've seen an Apple computer ad. I've never seen a Linux ad. I'd say they are competing with themselves (Windows XP), but as I said, you need a new computer to run it. All new computers will come with it. So, what's the point?
Just can't resist...
If the Firefox web browser sucks, the average Joe can uninstall that web browser from a Windows box....
if IE sucks... the average Joe can uninstall Windows from that box.
IDC is a respected market research firm.
I've heard that IDC is respected. I'm just not sure why. About 10 years ago I stopped reading PCWorld and stopped recommending it to others. This is because I had a manager that read this magazine. About once a month I'd have to go in and reinstall Windows because he had made some tweek, recommended by PCWorld, that would completely hose his system. I'd also have to explain why some future sounding technology that PCWorld was raving about wouldn't work as a solution to our current problems. Now granted, this manager was an idiot. However, it's a real headache when you have to deal with idiots feeding idiots information. Has the journalistic quality of PCWorld improved any over the last 10 years? Are their other publications of higher quality? I've never read MacWorld.
I always thought it was interesting that the University of Utah sits on a major fault line. A lot of biological research goes on at the UofU. The fault line in question is several years overdue for a quake, and it's supposed to be a major one.
But I keep hearing that people can't change the global climate. So this nuclear winter stuff must be a myth.
It's been a few months since I've seen this on Slashdot (please correct me if this isn't the same gimp-photoshop hack).
Despite an outcry from some developers, users have picked it up with passion.
As I recall, the developers were upset because of the way he went about makeing Gimp look like Photoshop. Rather than making changes to the data files that are used to create the menus, he changed to programing itself. This (going by memory) broke foreign language support. As I recall, Scott wrote the Gimp team and sent his suggestions. The Gimp team wrote back and invited him to join a discustion group. However, Scott decided to fork Gimp and make the changes himself. This of course leaves maintenance up to Scott. I hope he's up to it.
Um, what are you talking about? The GP poster said:
I for one got into more trouble than I care to remember during my teens and twens and didn't turn out to be public enemy #1. Like it or not, some smart kids will always try to push the envelope and although I believe that the 11 months will probably well spent I also wonder if some serious public service wouldn't have been a better verdict.
Bani disagreed and tried to make the kids crime worse because of 9-11. I agreed with the GP poster and I'm tired of people trying to tie 9-11 into everything. 9-11 dramaticly changed our political landscape. However, to say a kids crime is worse because 9-11 happened is just wrong. I might have agreed when everyone was frightened that terrorists were invading and setting bombs in every house. However, even that panic has been over for years. 9-11 happened 4 years ago. It's time to move on.
even as a juvenile, it takes a real kind of asshole to make bomb threats post 9/11.
It could be argued that it takes a juvenile delinquent to make bomb threats. However, I don't think many juveniles care one way or the other about 9/11. Unless they were directly involved, it's something that happened years ago. 9/11 is mostly political now, and not many juveniles care much about politics.
A person who uses sex to get attention also isn't happy.
Unless the attention they want is sexual. After all, my Wife uses sex to get my attention from time to time, and she seems quite happy when I'm done.
The kid sounds like a felon-in-training to me.
It's a good thing he has been sentenced to 11 months in a juvenile facility. When he gets out, he'll be fully trained and able to get a job as a professional felon.
And then he mentions home pages...just out of curiosity, do any of you use a home page? What do you use it for?
At work, it's set to the Corporate Intranet start page. However, I haven't really found a use for it at home, at least in Firefox. In Konq., Home is set to ~/. But Konq. is both a file and Web browser.