Come on guys, only two posts relating this story to surrendering or capitulation in a military arena.... very poor. You gung-ho chaps can do so much better. I'm sure that's the only reason the story made the front page.
The TV magically becomes unobselete if you buy a set-top box. Which is what the allocated funds will pay for, I believe. That's assuming digital TV works in the same manner over there as it does over here (Europe). The same process has already been announced in the UK, and the poor/elderly will be provided with vouchers for STBs.
FF needs a simple BitTorrent plug-in to make the downloading of files easier - an alternative to HTTP transfers. Something slimline that will benefit those who don't or can't run a full p2p app, but might need files that are released via p2p. More and more we see files not hosted on a web server, but are instead available as a torrent. Something needs to built to bridge the gap and allow more people to participate. This AllPeers extension doesn't look like it'll do the job. AllPeers is something for the teenagers.
Not the BBC necessarily, if that's what you're implying. Rights in most cases will still reside with the actors, performers & writers. When the BBC initially commissions a show, deals will be struck with the creatives to secure rights to broadcast. If those rights expire, which they do after some period of time, they must be re-negotiated.
Because of your repeated claims about "platform neutrality", I had to search the BBC to find what you were talking about. All I could find that mentioned the phrase was this, talking about interactive TV, not broadcast, and in any case it merely says the word "encourage" - not "require".
I also had a quick peek via Google, found this - a report by the BBC's R&D unit from five years ago, which does refer to broadcast TV, but still only says "the BBC aims to...". I'm sure that if Linux offered a DRM solution, they would have offered it. Even the free-wheeling P2Per like me knows that DRMed content is better than no content at all, certainly at this early stage in the project.
I wonder then if the reason they went for WMP is because a) they had to have something DRM-like otherwise nothing gets shared, and b) there's no DRM equivalent in the non-windows world. I think you'll be told that they went for the WMP solution because this is merely a pilot, testing out the technology. Who knows what tricks they'll have ready if/when the system goes live. Not much in the Linux world, I expect. Sad but true. Me, I got my own BT client. You can get the stuff, just not directly from the BBC.
Rights issues. Very cheap or free to offer this type of content. Check out the roadmap at the site - "Science & Nature" is next. Yep, more stuff where you generally don't have to pay the paricipants. I don't expect we'll see regular TV shows of the type you imagine for a long time.
I can answer that one for you now - right for programmes on iMP will have already been agreed, and they will cover broadcast in the UK only. It would be even more expensive to secure rights for worldwide broadcast, and it would no doubt slash the number of shows they could offer for download. As the charter notes, they already have an obligation to deliver the content to licence-fee payers. This project merely extends the obligation to p2p. Still, you raise some valid points, be interesting to hear the response.
Ah, I love being a Brit. Look at the first paragraph of the charter. "TO ALL TO WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME, GREETING!" That's actually part of an official government document! Ah, you USians would kill for a history which can begat such quaint traditions.
It's a very, very good point. Also note that stations like BBC World, America, Prime etc etc are all advertiser-funded, not paid for by the licence fee.
It's pretty much the same wording as that which appeared on another p2p site that was shut down last year - I can't remember which. But they got busted and something very similar to this message apppeared. Was it demonoid?
Your post is so laden with apparent sarcasm that I don't know what point you're making. Should we trust the ISC or not? What are these three incidents you mention? Or are you just being silly?
That will protect against the exploit doing the rounds in its current form. I wonder if the quote implying "not just *.wmf are affected" is a warning that an exploit doing the rounds tomorrow could take the form of a jpg, gif or indeed any binary file, not just an image. It could arrive as almost any sort of document, as long as it has the WMF metadata then the vulnerable code in Windows will "execute" the payload.
Good point. And incidentally about BBC News Online, perhaps the reason it's so successful against newspaper equivalents is because it didn't start life as a "newspaper on the web", which is pretty much what all the dead-tree types did in the late '90s. The BBC instead concentrated on technical advances alongside basic news reports, only later adding the long features and other content more familiar from a newspaper.
This is coming in IE7. A big killer feature for charlatan web tceh-experts to rave about. Except I don't see the fuss. I have the, er, you know, page titles across the top. If I want to see the pages, I "roll" through them with the m-wheel. Is this a feature for people who operate One Page One Window?
22 Internet Explorer I've seen on a friend's taskbar once.
And note what it was that helped technology & computers to cross that line... when they became tools to do everyday tasks, like make calls, send messages to keep in touch with people. Computers only became cool when they were all connected up.
The BBC's dominance is something I noticed, too. Just a little present from me as a licence-fee payer to the rest of the world. I hope you find it useful.
Glad to hear that bbc.com now goes to the BBC, it used to be occupied by some bloke with a small business in Canada, who refused to give it up for many years. In fact the BBC's first foray onto the net back in Oct '96 was via the rather cumbersome bbcnc.org.uk - 'nc' for 'network club', as I recall.
Try it. It beats bbc.co.uk by a couple of months.
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Come on guys, only two posts relating this story to surrendering or capitulation in a military arena.... very poor. You gung-ho chaps can do so much better. I'm sure that's the only reason the story made the front page.
Heheh, that page reveals that once, the ideal nuclear family contained 2.4 children. Now it contains 2.4 TVs.
The TV magically becomes unobselete if you buy a set-top box. Which is what the allocated funds will pay for, I believe. That's assuming digital TV works in the same manner over there as it does over here (Europe). The same process has already been announced in the UK, and the poor/elderly will be provided with vouchers for STBs.
FF needs a simple BitTorrent plug-in to make the downloading of files easier - an alternative to HTTP transfers. Something slimline that will benefit those who don't or can't run a full p2p app, but might need files that are released via p2p. More and more we see files not hosted on a web server, but are instead available as a torrent. Something needs to built to bridge the gap and allow more people to participate. This AllPeers extension doesn't look like it'll do the job. AllPeers is something for the teenagers.
Not the BBC necessarily, if that's what you're implying. Rights in most cases will still reside with the actors, performers & writers. When the BBC initially commissions a show, deals will be struck with the creatives to secure rights to broadcast. If those rights expire, which they do after some period of time, they must be re-negotiated.
Because of your repeated claims about "platform neutrality", I had to search the BBC to find what you were talking about. All I could find that mentioned the phrase was this, talking about interactive TV, not broadcast, and in any case it merely says the word "encourage" - not "require".
I also had a quick peek via Google, found this - a report by the BBC's R&D unit from five years ago, which does refer to broadcast TV, but still only says "the BBC aims to...". I'm sure that if Linux offered a DRM solution, they would have offered it. Even the free-wheeling P2Per like me knows that DRMed content is better than no content at all, certainly at this early stage in the project.
I wonder then if the reason they went for WMP is because a) they had to have something DRM-like otherwise nothing gets shared, and b) there's no DRM equivalent in the non-windows world. I think you'll be told that they went for the WMP solution because this is merely a pilot, testing out the technology. Who knows what tricks they'll have ready if/when the system goes live. Not much in the Linux world, I expect. Sad but true. Me, I got my own BT client. You can get the stuff, just not directly from the BBC.
Rights issues. Very cheap or free to offer this type of content. Check out the roadmap at the site - "Science & Nature" is next. Yep, more stuff where you generally don't have to pay the paricipants. I don't expect we'll see regular TV shows of the type you imagine for a long time.
why they feel the need to lock it into the UK,
I can answer that one for you now - right for programmes on iMP will have already been agreed, and they will cover broadcast in the UK only. It would be even more expensive to secure rights for worldwide broadcast, and it would no doubt slash the number of shows they could offer for download. As the charter notes, they already have an obligation to deliver the content to licence-fee payers. This project merely extends the obligation to p2p. Still, you raise some valid points, be interesting to hear the response.
Ah, I love being a Brit. Look at the first paragraph of the charter. "TO ALL TO WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME, GREETING!" That's actually part of an official government document! Ah, you USians would kill for a history which can begat such quaint traditions.
Come now, that's just stupid. I suppose you've spent the last 10 years lobbying for an international TV which will pick up the BBC wherever you are?
It's a very, very good point. Also note that stations like BBC World, America, Prime etc etc are all advertiser-funded, not paid for by the licence fee.
And the rest of us don't?
Pffft. Please send £126.50 to the BBC, Wood Lane, London and we might let you have access for a year.
Rats! strikeout "Obscure", replace "Useless"
Cooool... Yet Another Obscure Abbreviation
It's pretty much the same wording as that which appeared on another p2p site that was shut down last year - I can't remember which. But they got busted and something very similar to this message apppeared. Was it demonoid?
Your post is so laden with apparent sarcasm that I don't know what point you're making. Should we trust the ISC or not? What are these three incidents you mention? Or are you just being silly?
That will protect against the exploit doing the rounds in its current form. I wonder if the quote implying "not just *.wmf are affected" is a warning that an exploit doing the rounds tomorrow could take the form of a jpg, gif or indeed any binary file, not just an image. It could arrive as almost any sort of document, as long as it has the WMF metadata then the vulnerable code in Windows will "execute" the payload.
If it was satire, no-one modded it funny. Therefore it was just a really unbalanced comparison of two things.
Good point. And incidentally about BBC News Online, perhaps the reason it's so successful against newspaper equivalents is because it didn't start life as a "newspaper on the web", which is pretty much what all the dead-tree types did in the late '90s. The BBC instead concentrated on technical advances alongside basic news reports, only later adding the long features and other content more familiar from a newspaper.
This is coming in IE7. A big killer feature for charlatan web tceh-experts to rave about. Except I don't see the fuss. I have the, er, you know, page titles across the top. If I want to see the pages, I "roll" through them with the m-wheel. Is this a feature for people who operate One Page One Window? 22 Internet Explorer I've seen on a friend's taskbar once.
how funny the switch...
And note what it was that helped technology & computers to cross that line... when they became tools to do everyday tasks, like make calls, send messages to keep in touch with people. Computers only became cool when they were all connected up.
The BBC's dominance is something I noticed, too. Just a little present from me as a licence-fee payer to the rest of the world. I hope you find it useful.
Glad to hear that bbc.com now goes to the BBC, it used to be occupied by some bloke with a small business in Canada, who refused to give it up for many years. In fact the BBC's first foray onto the net back in Oct '96 was via the rather cumbersome bbcnc.org.uk - 'nc' for 'network club', as I recall. Try it. It beats bbc.co.uk by a couple of months.
Gee, great gags - have I fallen into Fark by mistake?
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