I see you also missed the entire point -- politics and platforms change. The democrats are no longer anti-civil rights. Some republicans are. The republicans, as a whole, are no longer really for smaller government. The only constants in politics are change, and lies.
Well, as someone who did manage to finish battletoads, I'll say it wasn't a walk in the park. Apparently to kids these days, that counts as a feat -- probably because they would have given up, called it a crappy game, and moved on to something different.
On the other hand, I absolutely cannot stand the "twitch" type FPSs (especially the online variety). So those same kids would probably say I'm not hardcore enough to join their klan or whatnot, assuming I cared enough to want to.
Fair enough. I always just parked in the loading zones at the university. $5 university ticket, cheaper than getting a city ticket from the meter running out, and no real consequences for not paying it, since I didn't register the car with the university either so they couldn't tie it to my records.
When it was too cold to walk or ride, I *always* had the best parking spot, and at $5 / day it was also some of the cheapest parking on campus.
Not sure of the type of meter, but all I've seen will let you put in more than one quarter at a time. So have someone feed it a day's worth of quarters every morning.
And then people like the tax evaders in New Hampshire and their "friends" will say 'and we have guns also, and are willing to die free than live a slave' or words to that effect.
At which point teh intarwebs asplode with all the hatred that would come pouring out from every side, and someone will post videos to youtube with crappy music and the Unreal Tournament "HEADSHOT" "KILLING SPREE" and "MONSTER KILL" dubbed in on top of it.
Fair enough - without knowing your kid's age or your wifes disposition towards games, I just figured I'd throw out the obvious suggestion.
I actually agree with most of what you said about Nintendo, and if it weren't for the golf and bowling games I probably wouldn't have bought a Wii myself. Yes, the controller is sort of a gimick. But it works well with two types of games I like, so... meh, it was worth it for me. Its not for everyone though.
Use the Wii to make gaming a family activity, and get the kid and your wife to game with you. All the fun of "in-person" multiplayer, without needing to invite people over.
Nor does it make any PS3 or 360 fanboys any less smug or holier-than-thou either.
Fanboyism of all types is petty, stupid, and getting increasingly annoying to those of us who refuse to take sides.
PS3 fanboys: Yes, your console is powerful, and can do lots more than just play games. We get it, you can shut up now.
360 fanboys: Yes, your console is powerful, has more games out for it, been out longer, and so forth. We get it, you can shut up now too.
Wii fanboys: Yes, you have the wii-mote. Its different. We get it, you can shut up now too.
Apple fanboys: Yes, its nice hardware, it runs apple's flavor of unix, its bright white and 'user friendly'. We get it. You can shut up now.
MS fanboys: Wait...these exist?
Linux fanboys: Yeah, its "the best", or at least "good enough". We get it. You can shut up now.
GPL fanboys: Yes, we know RMS is your god, capitalism is bad, anybody making money is bad, software wants to be free. We get it. You can shut up now.
I think that pretty much covered the big groups here on/. -- we get it, shut up, and let people have some real and meaningful conversation. You know, like/. used to be before we got invaded by 15 year olds.
See my first post -- I have Oblivion for the PC, and enjoyed most of it, but I never got into the hack'n'slash side.
As for my favorite genre, that would have to be Simulations. Flying, driving, and submarine. But I don't like the arcade type varieties. X-Plane, MS Flight Sim, and the Falcon series are some of my favorites for the PC, and as I said, Forza2 for the 360. Some of the older Need for Speed series were good, and NFS:Porsche was great, although after that I haven't been terribly impressed with where that series is going. The submarine simulators kinda peaked with Janes 688i, although the Silent Hunter series has been pretty good.
Following that would be turn-based strategy, although that genre is pretty much dying off, since they don't have the "ooh shiney" factor of RTS.
I don't do much with any RPGs or MMORPGs, since I much prefer the pen & paper RPGs with a few good friends, although now that we've moved, we do that via some online collaboration / conferencing software -- Adobe Connect, actually, since the whiteboard is good for maps and it does a decent job at handling a half dozen video streams -- and we're fortunate enough to have a group of people where cheating isn't an issue.
And again, as I said in my first post, I do like the golf and bowling games on the Wii, where the controller works FAR better than any other keyboard/mouse button/stick combo out there right now. I like the minigames when I've got 10-15 minutes to kill and don't have time to get into any of my other hobbies or a longer game.
I'm sort of an oddball I guess. I get little enjoyment from blood and gore or similar violence in games, but I certaintly will not say they shouldn't be allowed -- they're simply not something I will buy.
Well, the GTA III, VC, and SA all had the ability to play from a first person POV, at least on the PC, and THAT, along with the point of the game, is why I throw it in that category.
Since the original GTA, and GTA II did not have such a capability, I wouldn't consider them FPSs.
But in fairness, I should have just referred to the style of game I don't care for as XPSs, since it doesn't really matter if the game is first-person or third-person-from-above-and-behind -- if the point of the game is to destroy everything between A and B, or to run around and destroy stuff at random, then chances are I won't find it fun.
Viva Pinata was ok, but (for me) wasn't worth buying.
I throw Dead Rising into the FPS category, along with GTA and Saints Row, and other similar titles -- although they're really more along the lines of "third person shooters".
Oblivion I already had on the PC, and its fun there for modding, and while I didn't care much for the hack'n'slash-everything-in-sight, some of the quest lines were fun. Not worth buying for a console when I already had it.
I'd forgotten about the Rockstar Table Tennis -- I'll have to give that one a serious look, as I remember the reviews being pretty good, and I haven't paid much attention to whats coming -- Rather than fall for the hype, I just rent stuff that looks interesting and buy whats worth keeping longer than a weekend.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not permanantly ruling out getting a PS3 -- but I don't need a "home theater" system, or a media PC, or anything else the PS3 works as; I've got too many other hobbies than to camp out on the sofa and watch TV or movies. I've got enough friends with them that when there's a "must have" I'll end up playing it over there and probably swinging by the Walmart or Target on the way home and picking one up. Until then, however, I see no reason to have one.
You know, I'll take fun minigames and golf on the Wii over $FPSofTheWeek on any other platform.
That said, I have a 360 for the one game that made it worth it for me -- Forza2. I *might* buy some other racing games for it, but I haven't seen a single game that I would consider "must have" thats a PS3 exclusive.
I'm a fan of fun, and my idea of Fun doesn't involve FPSs. If that keeps me from being a "hardcore" or "real" gamer, so be it.
The person I replied to focused on the first part of the sentence, ignoring the bit about it being FSF software that the FSF defends, and tried to make it sound like the FSF was there to defend any and all GPL software, which is not the case.
They won't pursue shit unless they own the copyright being violated, which is as it should be.
Your code, your responsibility to look after it, not some third party organization's responsibility. (yes, I know submitter isn't complaining about HIS code being used)
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No, that falls under my point about lies.
But again you missed that part.
I see you also missed the entire point -- politics and platforms change. The democrats are no longer anti-civil rights. Some republicans are. The republicans, as a whole, are no longer really for smaller government. The only constants in politics are change, and lies.
Well, as someone who did manage to finish battletoads, I'll say it wasn't a walk in the park. Apparently to kids these days, that counts as a feat -- probably because they would have given up, called it a crappy game, and moved on to something different.
On the other hand, I absolutely cannot stand the "twitch" type FPSs (especially the online variety). So those same kids would probably say I'm not hardcore enough to join their klan or whatnot, assuming I cared enough to want to.
That would be my point. Everything changes in politics except the dirtiness of the game and the lying.
And the democratic party was also for "separate but equal" and limiting civil rights of colored people*.
Only a few things remain the same in politics: Its a dirty game, and everyone lies. Everything else changes with time.
*Yes, I know its not politically correct. When the NAACP quits calling themselves "Colored" I'll change as well.
Fair enough. I always just parked in the loading zones at the university. $5 university ticket, cheaper than getting a city ticket from the meter running out, and no real consequences for not paying it, since I didn't register the car with the university either so they couldn't tie it to my records.
When it was too cold to walk or ride, I *always* had the best parking spot, and at $5 / day it was also some of the cheapest parking on campus.
Not sure of the type of meter, but all I've seen will let you put in more than one quarter at a time. So have someone feed it a day's worth of quarters every morning.
That I have google ads blocked as of now.
Sure, their text ads were the least evil of all ads. Too bad it didn't last.
But they're all mail order.
And then people like the tax evaders in New Hampshire and their "friends" will say 'and we have guns also, and are willing to die free than live a slave' or words to that effect.
At which point teh intarwebs asplode with all the hatred that would come pouring out from every side, and someone will post videos to youtube with crappy music and the Unreal Tournament "HEADSHOT" "KILLING SPREE" and "MONSTER KILL" dubbed in on top of it.
Wow. Modded "Troll" AFTER the GP and I had a few civil responses. Thats a whole new low for slashdot's moderation system.
Number of readers? Advertising income?
And I don't blame you one bit.
Fine. Just don't expect me to visit.
Besides, Paris has better airshows, and Germany, Spain, and Italy all have better F1 races. Guess I'll take my tourist dollars there instead.
Fair enough - without knowing your kid's age or your wifes disposition towards games, I just figured I'd throw out the obvious suggestion.
I actually agree with most of what you said about Nintendo, and if it weren't for the golf and bowling games I probably wouldn't have bought a Wii myself. Yes, the controller is sort of a gimick. But it works well with two types of games I like, so... meh, it was worth it for me. Its not for everyone though.
Just pointing out the obvious.
Use the Wii to make gaming a family activity, and get the kid and your wife to game with you. All the fun of "in-person" multiplayer, without needing to invite people over.
Nor does it make any PS3 or 360 fanboys any less smug or holier-than-thou either.
/. -- we get it, shut up, and let people have some real and meaningful conversation. You know, like /. used to be before we got invaded by 15 year olds.
Fanboyism of all types is petty, stupid, and getting increasingly annoying to those of us who refuse to take sides.
PS3 fanboys: Yes, your console is powerful, and can do lots more than just play games. We get it, you can shut up now.
360 fanboys: Yes, your console is powerful, has more games out for it, been out longer, and so forth. We get it, you can shut up now too.
Wii fanboys: Yes, you have the wii-mote. Its different. We get it, you can shut up now too.
Apple fanboys: Yes, its nice hardware, it runs apple's flavor of unix, its bright white and 'user friendly'. We get it. You can shut up now.
MS fanboys: Wait...these exist?
Linux fanboys: Yeah, its "the best", or at least "good enough". We get it. You can shut up now.
GPL fanboys: Yes, we know RMS is your god, capitalism is bad, anybody making money is bad, software wants to be free. We get it. You can shut up now.
I think that pretty much covered the big groups here on
Cool. Now I'll probably end up waiting and seeing which version I like better before buying one.
See my first post -- I have Oblivion for the PC, and enjoyed most of it, but I never got into the hack'n'slash side.
As for my favorite genre, that would have to be Simulations. Flying, driving, and submarine. But I don't like the arcade type varieties. X-Plane, MS Flight Sim, and the Falcon series are some of my favorites for the PC, and as I said, Forza2 for the 360. Some of the older Need for Speed series were good, and NFS:Porsche was great, although after that I haven't been terribly impressed with where that series is going. The submarine simulators kinda peaked with Janes 688i, although the Silent Hunter series has been pretty good.
Following that would be turn-based strategy, although that genre is pretty much dying off, since they don't have the "ooh shiney" factor of RTS.
I don't do much with any RPGs or MMORPGs, since I much prefer the pen & paper RPGs with a few good friends, although now that we've moved, we do that via some online collaboration / conferencing software -- Adobe Connect, actually, since the whiteboard is good for maps and it does a decent job at handling a half dozen video streams -- and we're fortunate enough to have a group of people where cheating isn't an issue.
And again, as I said in my first post, I do like the golf and bowling games on the Wii, where the controller works FAR better than any other keyboard/mouse button/stick combo out there right now. I like the minigames when I've got 10-15 minutes to kill and don't have time to get into any of my other hobbies or a longer game.
I'm sort of an oddball I guess. I get little enjoyment from blood and gore or similar violence in games, but I certaintly will not say they shouldn't be allowed -- they're simply not something I will buy.
Well, the GTA III, VC, and SA all had the ability to play from a first person POV, at least on the PC, and THAT, along with the point of the game, is why I throw it in that category.
Since the original GTA, and GTA II did not have such a capability, I wouldn't consider them FPSs.
But in fairness, I should have just referred to the style of game I don't care for as XPSs, since it doesn't really matter if the game is first-person or third-person-from-above-and-behind -- if the point of the game is to destroy everything between A and B, or to run around and destroy stuff at random, then chances are I won't find it fun.
Viva Pinata was ok, but (for me) wasn't worth buying.
I throw Dead Rising into the FPS category, along with GTA and Saints Row, and other similar titles -- although they're really more along the lines of "third person shooters".
Oblivion I already had on the PC, and its fun there for modding, and while I didn't care much for the hack'n'slash-everything-in-sight, some of the quest lines were fun. Not worth buying for a console when I already had it.
I'd forgotten about the Rockstar Table Tennis -- I'll have to give that one a serious look, as I remember the reviews being pretty good, and I haven't paid much attention to whats coming -- Rather than fall for the hype, I just rent stuff that looks interesting and buy whats worth keeping longer than a weekend.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not permanantly ruling out getting a PS3 -- but I don't need a "home theater" system, or a media PC, or anything else the PS3 works as; I've got too many other hobbies than to camp out on the sofa and watch TV or movies. I've got enough friends with them that when there's a "must have" I'll end up playing it over there and probably swinging by the Walmart or Target on the way home and picking one up. Until then, however, I see no reason to have one.
You know, I'll take fun minigames and golf on the Wii over $FPSofTheWeek on any other platform.
That said, I have a 360 for the one game that made it worth it for me -- Forza2. I *might* buy some other racing games for it, but I haven't seen a single game that I would consider "must have" thats a PS3 exclusive.
I'm a fan of fun, and my idea of Fun doesn't involve FPSs. If that keeps me from being a "hardcore" or "real" gamer, so be it.
Which is exactly the point I was making.
The person I replied to focused on the first part of the sentence, ignoring the bit about it being FSF software that the FSF defends, and tried to make it sound like the FSF was there to defend any and all GPL software, which is not the case.
They won't pursue shit unless they own the copyright being violated, which is as it should be.
Your code, your responsibility to look after it, not some third party organization's responsibility. (yes, I know submitter isn't complaining about HIS code being used)
Because "good for the user" isn't always the same as "good for the company".
Surprise, surprise, companies are in business to make money.