By getting there first? Yes there's linux now, but MS had DOS out the decade before. People knew the name Microsoft before the Linux kernel was even a single line of code. MS also talk corporate. I recently visited one of my first corporate level clients, and simple they don't care at all (exagerating slightly; it's definitely lower down on their priority list) about which is technically better, they care about what happens if you die, a machine breaks, a supplier drops out; are there any potential non-redundant parts to what you provide that they shouldn't rely on. They wanna see financial reports, know you have a roadmap, know there's at least two people who can do any one job. It's one of those self perpetuating reverse-of-a-catch-22 things; Microsoft are successful because they're successful. So many people will pay them money because they're going to be around for quite some time because so many people will pay them money etc etc. Like money, the only reason everyone wants it is because everyone wants it. (don't say "I don't!" cuz you so know what my point is!):-)
Oh, and they put their product in schools so when kids grow up, that's what they know how to use, that's what they're comfortable with.
Does any of those taxes that those in Idaho also pay get funnelled into the state you live in?
Isn't spending money on real American citizens not actually a decent break from where a huge amount of the fed'gov's spending usually goes?
Can you really really see no reason why your taxes should go towards improving peoples lives? Are people who live their lives closer to you worth more of your tax dollars? Are your tax dollars different to people who live in further away states such that they must be divided and never mixed?
I agree that local governments should do what they can, just because it's going to be done more efficiently (smaller body = (reletively) less red tape etc) but fundamentally, where the amount being spent is equal, it hardly matters who does it, as long as you don't get one state funding development in another more than the reverse is also true, above the level of how much the one state needs help over the other.
"federal prison is filled with people who can't be charged under state laws"
Or (correct me if wrong - am non-american, never been there, etc etc) people who have committed crimes over state borders, eg, serial killer who's killed in one state will go to state prison, but one who's killed in multiple states will go federal. Again, tax evasion, computer hacking, within single state = state prison, across state borders will get you to federal. Of course, there will be exceptions, but I think that's the general rule.
yeah, a 2.6Ghz Intel Quad Core would do great driving my smart phone... those 5 minute battery times and second degree burns to the hand just make talking to people or connecting to my ssh server from my phone a pure delight!
And if you lose your virginity you can neither find or win it back. Welcome to the world of "a word can have more than one meaning"; my point still stands.
haha yes I had considered biting back on that "happy now" comment but with the context of the rest of the message I figured it was more likely meant slightly cheekily than offensively, and you had a valid point... relative to the so many posts on here that are pure rudeness with/no/ valid point:-) etc etc...
You could, but you couldn't always trust that every device attached has this memory, or that nothing has changed while the machine has been off (maybe a failed drive has been swapped out, or a usb pendrive has been unplugged as someone realised they needed it but didn't power back up the machine to unplug it). You're much better off scanning the busses than just hoping the hardware hasn't changed and writing to what was there and hoping it's safe (embedded machines may of course be different if you've designed and build the whole thing)
Yep - but that's not so much just down to the validity of your point, but the difference in the way you made it. The post I was replying to was deliberately argumentative and offensive, accusational... and on top of all this, wrong... which all together inspired my response. Your post, being perfectly civilised, inspires in return, a civilised response.
"Well if you knew anything about recording home audio on a PC, you'd quickly come across situations where it's useful"
I have actually done a lot of production, but to release rather than as live set. With ReWire or vst, there's usually other ways of routing the audio without bouncing it off the soundcard, ways at least that have accommodated what I've needed to do.
"Managing to shave 5 seconds off boot? Not so much so, especially since it offers no other concrete advantages once you're booted"
What if you're a kernel, or bootloader developer? Saving 5 out of 20 seconds boot time means you're spending 25% less time waiting while you're testing. And that was just off the top of my head!
"we're back to having to load that memory check routine from another source"
That's really not that big a deal.
"of the most popular pipe dreams of these ideas? Do we have a set of checks for each file in there? Where did we store it? How long will it take to check it? Are we recalculating it constantly on the fly...?"
Um... ZFS? End to end checksumming? Pipe dream? Just because you've not heard of it being done, doesn't make it magic.
"might as well just keep its system state on a pair of revolving images on the hard disk anyways"...because harddrives don't fail or need to be checked?
With harddrives it will stick around much longer too... the trick is very simple... don't store stuff in non-volatile memory if you don't want it to be non-volatile! This is not a new problem, and it's very much solved.
No, devices have their own internal state that needs to be initialised and configured, irqs 'n memory mapped IO registers set, possibly have firmware loaded into its memory, and maybe detect what subdevices are attached to it. You can't expect a device to be in the same state when you power it up as it was when you cut power to it.
"or even your own LEGALLY COPYRIGHTED drum/beat/synthesizer loops"
Why would you need soundcard drivers to record something you already have as a file?
"Or even the audio off your home videos"
Ditto.
"Or even your own LEGAL automated answering service that may need to record messages"
Why would you need an output recording facility to record some input?
"As a poster has already stated"
And you're about to jump on the straw-bandwagon...
"do NOT tell me how I should/can or shouldn't/cannot use MY hardware"
Why do you think that asking questions, or pointing out that this doesn't limit the things you're saying it does, is telling you what to do? Do you have such a problem with people telling you what to do that you see it everywhere, even where it doesn't exist???
"It isn't about recording audio input from microphones, it is about making a copy of whats going out to the speakers"
dictating how you may use your tools? It's not dictating anything, it's observing what the story is about! You idiot mods, I bet you're the types to rally behind out-of-context soundbites too because you don't understand the issues at hand. Really. Idiots.
Most likely no, but depends where you live. In fact in many places you will find you actually have the right to do things like using excepts in reviews (where "copyright" laws grant rights to both the creator and to the purchaser), which is one reason many people have a problem with it - media and software companies putting restrictions on what you can do with that which you've paid for, restricting your rights granted by the law, or taking away your rights in an even less democratic process than government does.
"but that won't sell me on using a file system named after a murderer"
Named after?! He wasn't a murderer when it was written and named dumbass, it was named *before* he became a murderer by *years*.
I suppose you never buy anything made by any subsidery of coke, put money into banks... you say you wanna switch another filesystem like JFS? From IBM? After their involvement with the Nazis?!!!!
noooo... make test runs some tests, the more tests you write the more bugs it can potentially catch. It was more the 'make bootstrap' bit I was pointing to, where it compiles itself with itself and then compares to make sure it's "offspring" works the same as it does.
"because everything in the known Universe that rotates is spherical"
Galaxies rotate... they're not spherical... also asteroids, and me on a spinny chair. Things generally form spherical due to being dense fluidic with enough gravity to pull them into that shape.
"antigravity is a variable force that causes rotation. This rotation is better known as centrifugal force"
Cause and effect are mixed up there. Centrifugal force is only a perceived force, caused by trying to change the vector of travel against inertia. While increased inertia does increase "virtual mass" (ie, it behaves like a heavier object would in the sense it required a greater force to manipulate the object) it doesn't actually exhibit other properties associated with mass, such as increased gravity.
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By getting there first? Yes there's linux now, but MS had DOS out the decade before. People knew the name Microsoft before the Linux kernel was even a single line of code. MS also talk corporate. I recently visited one of my first corporate level clients, and simple they don't care at all (exagerating slightly; it's definitely lower down on their priority list) about which is technically better, they care about what happens if you die, a machine breaks, a supplier drops out; are there any potential non-redundant parts to what you provide that they shouldn't rely on. They wanna see financial reports, know you have a roadmap, know there's at least two people who can do any one job. It's one of those self perpetuating reverse-of-a-catch-22 things; Microsoft are successful because they're successful. So many people will pay them money because they're going to be around for quite some time because so many people will pay them money etc etc. Like money, the only reason everyone wants it is because everyone wants it. (don't say "I don't!" cuz you so know what my point is!) :-)
Oh, and they put their product in schools so when kids grow up, that's what they know how to use, that's what they're comfortable with.
It?! There's only one joke in the universe?!! You think maybe you might've missed all the others?
you know, if you make the sound, you break the joke...
How can a sound break the sound barrier?
Do people in Idaho not pay those taxes also?
Does any of those taxes that those in Idaho also pay get funnelled into the state you live in?
Isn't spending money on real American citizens not actually a decent break from where a huge amount of the fed'gov's spending usually goes?
Can you really really see no reason why your taxes should go towards improving peoples lives? Are people who live their lives closer to you worth more of your tax dollars? Are your tax dollars different to people who live in further away states such that they must be divided and never mixed?
I agree that local governments should do what they can, just because it's going to be done more efficiently (smaller body = (reletively) less red tape etc) but fundamentally, where the amount being spent is equal, it hardly matters who does it, as long as you don't get one state funding development in another more than the reverse is also true, above the level of how much the one state needs help over the other.
"federal prison is filled with people who can't be charged under state laws"
Or (correct me if wrong - am non-american, never been there, etc etc) people who have committed crimes over state borders, eg, serial killer who's killed in one state will go to state prison, but one who's killed in multiple states will go federal. Again, tax evasion, computer hacking, within single state = state prison, across state borders will get you to federal. Of course, there will be exceptions, but I think that's the general rule.
yeah, a 2.6Ghz Intel Quad Core would do great driving my smart phone... those 5 minute battery times and second degree burns to the hand just make talking to people or connecting to my ssh server from my phone a pure delight!
Erm... different job, different tools???
I would say that those people are the vulnerability and they're the ones that need patching. Not all vulnerabilities of a system are in the code!
And if you lose your virginity you can neither find or win it back. Welcome to the world of "a word can have more than one meaning"; my point still stands.
haha yes I had considered biting back on that "happy now" comment but with the context of the rest of the message I figured it was more likely meant slightly cheekily than offensively, and you had a valid point... relative to the so many posts on here that are pure rudeness with /no/ valid point :-) etc etc...
Not really no, but device initialisation can still be done fairly quickly, avoiding the whole saving/restoring RAM to disc is still a massive saving.
You could, but you couldn't always trust that every device attached has this memory, or that nothing has changed while the machine has been off (maybe a failed drive has been swapped out, or a usb pendrive has been unplugged as someone realised they needed it but didn't power back up the machine to unplug it). You're much better off scanning the busses than just hoping the hardware hasn't changed and writing to what was there and hoping it's safe (embedded machines may of course be different if you've designed and build the whole thing)
"There, found you a legitimate use happy now?"
Yep - but that's not so much just down to the validity of your point, but the difference in the way you made it. The post I was replying to was deliberately argumentative and offensive, accusational... and on top of all this, wrong... which all together inspired my response. Your post, being perfectly civilised, inspires in return, a civilised response.
"Well if you knew anything about recording home audio on a PC, you'd quickly come across situations where it's useful"
I have actually done a lot of production, but to release rather than as live set. With ReWire or vst, there's usually other ways of routing the audio without bouncing it off the soundcard, ways at least that have accommodated what I've needed to do.
"Managing to shave 5 seconds off boot? Not so much so, especially since it offers no other concrete advantages once you're booted"
What if you're a kernel, or bootloader developer? Saving 5 out of 20 seconds boot time means you're spending 25% less time waiting while you're testing. And that was just off the top of my head!
"we're back to having to load that memory check routine from another source"
That's really not that big a deal.
"of the most popular pipe dreams of these ideas? Do we have a set of checks for each file in there? Where did we store it? How long will it take to check it? Are we recalculating it constantly on the fly...?"
Um... ZFS? End to end checksumming? Pipe dream? Just because you've not heard of it being done, doesn't make it magic.
"might as well just keep its system state on a pair of revolving images on the hard disk anyways" ...because harddrives don't fail or need to be checked?
With harddrives it will stick around much longer too... the trick is very simple... don't store stuff in non-volatile memory if you don't want it to be non-volatile! This is not a new problem, and it's very much solved.
No, devices have their own internal state that needs to be initialised and configured, irqs 'n memory mapped IO registers set, possibly have firmware loaded into its memory, and maybe detect what subdevices are attached to it. You can't expect a device to be in the same state when you power it up as it was when you cut power to it.
"and any point you may have made is ignored"
yeah, ignored by idiots, if the only thing someone's saying is completely idiotic, it's not a far stretch calling them idiots.
INSIGHTFUL?!!
"or even your own LEGALLY COPYRIGHTED drum/beat/synthesizer loops"
Why would you need soundcard drivers to record something you already have as a file?
"Or even the audio off your home videos"
Ditto.
"Or even your own LEGAL automated answering service that may need to record messages"
Why would you need an output recording facility to record some input?
"As a poster has already stated"
And you're about to jump on the straw-bandwagon...
"do NOT tell me how I should/can or shouldn't/cannot use MY hardware"
Why do you think that asking questions, or pointing out that this doesn't limit the things you're saying it does, is telling you what to do? Do you have such a problem with people telling you what to do that you see it everywhere, even where it doesn't exist???
Insightful?!! How the hell is
"It isn't about recording audio input from microphones, it is about making a copy of whats going out to the speakers"
dictating how you may use your tools? It's not dictating anything, it's observing what the story is about! You idiot mods, I bet you're the types to rally behind out-of-context soundbites too because you don't understand the issues at hand. Really. Idiots.
"Is that illegal or something?"
Most likely no, but depends where you live. In fact in many places you will find you actually have the right to do things like using excepts in reviews (where "copyright" laws grant rights to both the creator and to the purchaser), which is one reason many people have a problem with it - media and software companies putting restrictions on what you can do with that which you've paid for, restricting your rights granted by the law, or taking away your rights in an even less democratic process than government does.
Unbeliever here, so just tried it. Perfect digital silence. [Relatively] old dell laptop (D505) with SigmaTel C-Major low end sound card.
Hell yeah! I firmly believe Bill Gates killed his wife, despite all evidence, like her still being alive, saying otherwise!
"but that won't sell me on using a file system named after a murderer"
Named after?! He wasn't a murderer when it was written and named dumbass, it was named *before* he became a murderer by *years*.
I suppose you never buy anything made by any subsidery of coke, put money into banks... you say you wanna switch another filesystem like JFS? From IBM? After their involvement with the Nazis?!!!!
Get real!
noooo... make test runs some tests, the more tests you write the more bugs it can potentially catch. It was more the 'make bootstrap' bit I was pointing to, where it compiles itself with itself and then compares to make sure it's "offspring" works the same as it does.
"because everything in the known Universe that rotates is spherical"
Galaxies rotate... they're not spherical... also asteroids, and me on a spinny chair. Things generally form spherical due to being dense fluidic with enough gravity to pull them into that shape.
"antigravity is a variable force that causes rotation. This rotation is better known as centrifugal force"
Cause and effect are mixed up there. Centrifugal force is only a perceived force, caused by trying to change the vector of travel against inertia. While increased inertia does increase "virtual mass" (ie, it behaves like a heavier object would in the sense it required a greater force to manipulate the object) it doesn't actually exhibit other properties associated with mass, such as increased gravity.