I don't think we should stop there. I want my TV curvy, my amp, my speakers around the room... in fact, the whole room, the floor, let's do away with flat.
Or maybe I'll just look at what's on the screen instead, and leave the computer case itself not screaming out for attention. If I ever want everything curvey for a while, I'll just take some of the special mushrooms:-)
For what it's worth, I am sorry for whatever "america" has done to you to make you hate it so much, that you find yourself trying to impersonate a stereotypical "ignorant american" in such a fasion to try and make otherwise "on the fence" readers move more to your side and hate america more... but truely the only way any evil in the world can be overcome is to rise above it.
Propergander, dishonesty, and these kind of attacks only weaken your resolve. You will give the stupid and the evil an alibi; "it wasn't us, it was people pretending to be us to make you turn against us".
Be honest when fighting for your cause, you stand a better chance of winning.
"Yeah, but at any time you're gonna have several hundred threads running at once"
On a server serving multiple clients maybe. For the casual home/office user, there may be hundreds of threads, but most of them will be spending most of their time waiting. Having multiple threads is an easy way for stopping a process from halting while waiting for something to complete (eg, one thread to animate progress bar while another to receive and store a file using blocking IO operations), but still only one thread needs to be running at a time. Many threads on a desktop are for this purpose rather than parallel processing benefits.
Making use of multiple cores on this scale isn't just a case of making things more parallel... it's a case of finding more stuff that the other cores can do. Virtual machine hosts, multiple-client servers, sciency stuff, no problem. Huge dataset manipulation, cool. Home/office users? What 100 things do you want your computer to be doing in the background while you're typing an email?
A decent enough OS will try and avoid migrating a process to a different core/processor, to take advantage of any local (to-the-core) caches (esp TLBs etc). This is even more important with a NUMA memory layout, where migrating a process can involve having to move its memory to the new processor/core. With the OS doing this already, you would find that this will happen on its own anyway (photoshop might take up two cores, a third core handling graphics functions, a fourth handling a load of background services).
One advantage I can see is that with more cores, you can reduce the rate at which task switching occures, which will give you more time executing the actual tasks, and less task switching overhead. Cores could be shutdown or slowed down when they're not being used fully.
Of cause you have to weight this up against locking and message passing overhead you will incur by going between cores.
"And I don't think there's really any question about this one. There's a good 30+ processes running in the background at any given time"
Just because there's 30+ background processes doesn't mean there's 30+ background processes running at any one time. Most of those are going to be sleeping for most of the time. Your DHCP client, time daemon, task schedular etc, only get woken up to perform their task once every now and then. They do it for maybe a few milliseconds, then go back to sleep again. They certainly don't warrent a whole core to themselves.
Yeah first thing I though too... this is one of the problems with americans that's responsible for the rest of the world's disdain with them... somebody before on slashdot said if only they used the word "people" in place of "americans", the rest of the world wouldn't grind their teeth hearing it.
In this case, they're talking statistics, in may not make sense to try and say how many people in the world suffer from various conditions, but it could still be worded so much better, eg:
"...effecting more than 50 million people in America alone..."
doesn't sound like a bunch of americans thinking they're a higher species than anybody else on the planet.
Better than that guy they spent $50,000 who said moving the plant from the window and installing a water feature would allow the energy would flow much better...
If google come out with a "can save energy this way...", and gets the world to follow, the marketing value speaks for itself. That kind of reputation doesn't come easily.
"With Electricity there's always the option of a crank to get you a couple more miles"
Nah, if you were using a crank you'd be better off just connecting it straight to the wheels through some gears, as then you're not losing energy during the kinetic -> electric -> kinetic conversions.
"Alan was on the other side of the parking lot from his car. I was elsewhere. He yelled out, I ambled towards the parking lot in my own good time, and then I heard 'Fire! Real fire! Call the fire brigade, now!' and I speeded up a bit. From Alan subsequently, I gather there was an explosion and flying pieces of car, and a fireball, and a couple of fires started where (presumably) boiling capacitor landed, and one fragment smashed an SUV windscreen. And then there was smoke and smell (there is still smell) and smoke alarm wailing and firemen and sirens and paramedics (happily unneeded) and police and a man with a notebook asking questions for the fire report.'"
"With smaller and smaller pixels, you either need longer exposure times"
If the gaps between the pixels are getting larger, yeah... but if you have four pixels that are quarter the size, they receive quarter of the amount of light in the same amount of time... put the four together, and you end up with the same amount of light, no?
Lesson to be learnt: don't lose stuff that costs money to replace. I'd rather learn that lesson with something like a windows license, than something more valuable or harder to replace.
I've used windows 2000 for years without problem, without being hacked or hijacked.
I've used and develop under IE6 for years, without problem, without being hacked or hijacked, and I make money doing so.
In the past few days I upgraded to windows 2003, and so far pretty happy with it and looks like I'll stick with it. (No, I won't touch XP, I prefer "server" level OS rather than home luser/tellytubby level OS).
I don't download dodgy screensavers or visit dodgy websites. I use my computer for work, creating music, listening to music, and watching movies. The occasional game thrown in.
Windows works perfectly fine for that. Sorry, unpopular opinion here on slashdot, but statement of fact.
Microsoft are also evil for releasing a harddisk FORMAT utility, which doesn't allow you to rollback to everything that was on your harddrive before.
Yes, I know, pretty stupid thing to say. But hey, I didn't start it.
If someone's stupid enough to wipe your OS, with no means of putting it back on, they pay the consequences. There are many alternatives, such as resize partitions, install to a partition you kept aside for OS test installs (didn't do this? Well don't blame someone else for your lack of foresight that's stopping you from doing an OS test install!).
Does nobody have any personal responsibility anymore, they need looking after by the very people they blame for taking over the world?
Unless you wire your phone antenna to the plane, use the whole goddamn thing as an antenna:-p
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For this balloon thing though, could put the GSM unit into a downward facing pringles tube, increasing the signal strength, narrowing the transmitted area, and sticking to their "cheap, very very cheap" idea:-)
Wow, when the only way you can downplay negative effects of some action is by comparing it to what America already do, you know you're in trouble!!!
On the other side of the coin, perhaps America aren't injecting their current 16M tons high enough into the atmosphere to have the effect these people are on about, which is why the difference? Maybe then just get the current SOx that's injected into the sky just injected a little further out instead, where it can reach to do what they are suggesting. This has gotta be better than adding more to the problem? You could maybe do this with a series of tubes, stretching into the sky?
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All the cores in the recently announced 80 core Intel CPU will operate in "committee" mode, to slow it down to a reasonable pace...
Why obsess with holding onto the past? Got nothing worth looking forward to? Can that not be changed?
I don't think we should stop there. I want my TV curvy, my amp, my speakers around the room... in fact, the whole room, the floor, let's do away with flat.
:-)
Or maybe I'll just look at what's on the screen instead, and leave the computer case itself not screaming out for attention. If I ever want everything curvey for a while, I'll just take some of the special mushrooms
What I mean is that bigger bombs exist today than have been physically tested in the past
bombs have got much bigger!
I think by "us" it means america rather than anonymous cowards, ya know, in the same way that bush represents america... all of it...
For what it's worth, I am sorry for whatever "america" has done to you to make you hate it so much, that you find yourself trying to impersonate a stereotypical "ignorant american" in such a fasion to try and make otherwise "on the fence" readers move more to your side and hate america more... but truely the only way any evil in the world can be overcome is to rise above it.
Propergander, dishonesty, and these kind of attacks only weaken your resolve. You will give the stupid and the evil an alibi; "it wasn't us, it was people pretending to be us to make you turn against us".
Be honest when fighting for your cause, you stand a better chance of winning.
"Yeah, but at any time you're gonna have several hundred threads running at once"
On a server serving multiple clients maybe. For the casual home/office user, there may be hundreds of threads, but most of them will be spending most of their time waiting. Having multiple threads is an easy way for stopping a process from halting while waiting for something to complete (eg, one thread to animate progress bar while another to receive and store a file using blocking IO operations), but still only one thread needs to be running at a time. Many threads on a desktop are for this purpose rather than parallel processing benefits.
Making use of multiple cores on this scale isn't just a case of making things more parallel... it's a case of finding more stuff that the other cores can do. Virtual machine hosts, multiple-client servers, sciency stuff, no problem. Huge dataset manipulation, cool. Home/office users? What 100 things do you want your computer to be doing in the background while you're typing an email?
A decent enough OS will try and avoid migrating a process to a different core/processor, to take advantage of any local (to-the-core) caches (esp TLBs etc). This is even more important with a NUMA memory layout, where migrating a process can involve having to move its memory to the new processor/core. With the OS doing this already, you would find that this will happen on its own anyway (photoshop might take up two cores, a third core handling graphics functions, a fourth handling a load of background services).
One advantage I can see is that with more cores, you can reduce the rate at which task switching occures, which will give you more time executing the actual tasks, and less task switching overhead. Cores could be shutdown or slowed down when they're not being used fully.
Of cause you have to weight this up against locking and message passing overhead you will incur by going between cores.
haha quite convincing, but you missed the bit about coming to 'bomb my ass' which would pretty much have completed the stereotype image ;-)
40 dual processor virtual machines in a single box? Slap on some hardcore storage and networking, and it's a datacenters whet dream.
"And I don't think there's really any question about this one. There's a good 30+ processes running in the background at any given time"
Just because there's 30+ background processes doesn't mean there's 30+ background processes running at any one time. Most of those are going to be sleeping for most of the time. Your DHCP client, time daemon, task schedular etc, only get woken up to perform their task once every now and then. They do it for maybe a few milliseconds, then go back to sleep again. They certainly don't warrent a whole core to themselves.
Wrong kind of bus, dummy. The kind of bus we're talking about we wanna be waiting for 2, 3 minutes tops.
They now have mice that fit better in your hand
Yeah first thing I though too... this is one of the problems with americans that's responsible for the rest of the world's disdain with them... somebody before on slashdot said if only they used the word "people" in place of "americans", the rest of the world wouldn't grind their teeth hearing it.
In this case, they're talking statistics, in may not make sense to try and say how many people in the world suffer from various conditions, but it could still be worded so much better, eg:
"...effecting more than 50 million people in America alone..."
doesn't sound like a bunch of americans thinking they're a higher species than anybody else on the planet.
Better than that guy they spent $50,000 who said moving the plant from the window and installing a water feature would allow the energy would flow much better...
If google come out with a "can save energy this way...", and gets the world to follow, the marketing value speaks for itself. That kind of reputation doesn't come easily.
"With Electricity there's always the option of a crank to get you a couple more miles"
Nah, if you were using a crank you'd be better off just connecting it straight to the wheels through some gears, as then you're not losing energy during the kinetic -> electric -> kinetic conversions.
Next on slashdot?
"Alan was on the other side of the parking lot from his car. I was elsewhere. He yelled out, I ambled towards the parking lot in my own good time, and then I heard 'Fire! Real fire! Call the fire brigade, now!' and I speeded up a bit. From Alan subsequently, I gather there was an explosion and flying pieces of car, and a fireball, and a couple of fires started where (presumably) boiling capacitor landed, and one fragment smashed an SUV windscreen. And then there was smoke and smell (there is still smell) and smoke alarm wailing and firemen and sirens and paramedics (happily unneeded) and police and a man with a notebook asking questions for the fire report.'"
"With smaller and smaller pixels, you either need longer exposure times"
If the gaps between the pixels are getting larger, yeah... but if you have four pixels that are quarter the size, they receive quarter of the amount of light in the same amount of time... put the four together, and you end up with the same amount of light, no?
Lesson to be learnt: don't lose stuff that costs money to replace. I'd rather learn that lesson with something like a windows license, than something more valuable or harder to replace.
This isn't a microsoft tax.
This is a stupidity tax.
I've used windows 2000 for years without problem, without being hacked or hijacked.
I've used and develop under IE6 for years, without problem, without being hacked or hijacked, and I make money doing so.
In the past few days I upgraded to windows 2003, and so far pretty happy with it and looks like I'll stick with it. (No, I won't touch XP, I prefer "server" level OS rather than home luser/tellytubby level OS).
I don't download dodgy screensavers or visit dodgy websites. I use my computer for work, creating music, listening to music, and watching movies. The occasional game thrown in.
Windows works perfectly fine for that. Sorry, unpopular opinion here on slashdot, but statement of fact.
Microsoft are also evil for releasing a harddisk FORMAT utility, which doesn't allow you to rollback to everything that was on your harddrive before.
Yes, I know, pretty stupid thing to say. But hey, I didn't start it.
If someone's stupid enough to wipe your OS, with no means of putting it back on, they pay the consequences. There are many alternatives, such as resize partitions, install to a partition you kept aside for OS test installs (didn't do this? Well don't blame someone else for your lack of foresight that's stopping you from doing an OS test install!).
Does nobody have any personal responsibility anymore, they need looking after by the very people they blame for taking over the world?
Unless you wire your phone antenna to the plane, use the whole goddamn thing as an antenna :-p
For this balloon thing though, could put the GSM unit into a downward facing pringles tube, increasing the signal strength, narrowing the transmitted area, and sticking to their "cheap, very very cheap" idea :-)
Wow, when the only way you can downplay negative effects of some action is by comparing it to what America already do, you know you're in trouble!!!
On the other side of the coin, perhaps America aren't injecting their current 16M tons high enough into the atmosphere to have the effect these people are on about, which is why the difference? Maybe then just get the current SOx that's injected into the sky just injected a little further out instead, where it can reach to do what they are suggesting. This has gotta be better than adding more to the problem? You could maybe do this with a series of tubes, stretching into the sky?